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How did you do that exactly? My wife is eligible for an upgrade in early October and I'm not due until January. I would like to order a 5 for myself and then sell my 4. But I would need to use her upgrade. Will AT&T play ball and let the newly activated phone have my sim in it?Sure, I agree with that. I ordered a 5 and I'm giving Mrs CE my 4S. But even with that said, when I saw what the 5 included, I didn't think "Wow, that's amazing."You probably would have said the same thing before the iPhone came out. I mean it's just a phone right? What more can they do? Don't underestimate the power of innovation. I think the iPhone 5 is a good bump up, not mind blowing but good added features. Definitely worth it if you have an iPhone 4, and probably worth it if you have a 4S.I'm really not sure how Apple (or anyone else, for that matter) is going to blow anybody out of the water with any future phone release. I think we're looking at incremental improvements from here on out and I really doubt we're going to have any "Wow!" moments again.Yeah, I'm preparing for the iPhone 6. Not thrilled with this one.
Yes.How did you do that exactly? My wife is eligible for an upgrade in early October and I'm not due until January. I would like to order a 5 for myself and then sell my 4. But I would need to use her upgrade. Will AT&T play ball and let the newly activated phone have my sim in it?Sure, I agree with that. I ordered a 5 and I'm giving Mrs CE my 4S. But even with that said, when I saw what the 5 included, I didn't think "Wow, that's amazing."You probably would have said the same thing before the iPhone came out. I mean it's just a phone right? What more can they do? Don't underestimate the power of innovation. I think the iPhone 5 is a good bump up, not mind blowing but good added features. Definitely worth it if you have an iPhone 4, and probably worth it if you have a 4S.I'm really not sure how Apple (or anyone else, for that matter) is going to blow anybody out of the water with any future phone release. I think we're looking at incremental improvements from here on out and I really doubt we're going to have any "Wow!" moments again.Yeah, I'm preparing for the iPhone 6. Not thrilled with this one.
I have never ordered a phone online before so not sure how it works exactly, but I can imagine you can just put your SIM into the phone and it should work. However, I believe the new iPhone 5 might use an even smaller SIM card so you might have to go to an AT&T store anyways to transfer your data to the new smaller sim (contacts, etc). If you have any problems when you go into a AT&T store they should help you out and not give you any problems. Families cross upgrade all the time.ETA: If you have only 2gb worth of photos, video, and data that you want to transfer ANYONE on AT&T can use the AT&T Mobile Transfer app (so you can skip going to the store). Simply DL the mobile transfer app to your old phone, upload your data to the cloud, then on the new phone DL the AT&T mobile Transfer app within 7 days (I believe, but there is a time limit) and download what you uploaded. This service is limited I believe to one per upgrade.ETA2: Actually...if they do use a smaller SIM card you have to go to the AT&T store in order to get your phone number assigned to that SIM.So i order it for her and when it gets here do I (1) activate it under her line, take out that sim an put it in her current phone and replace it with my sim or (2) simply put my sim in the new phone and proceed as normal, never activating the new sim they sent. ?
When I ordered my 4S, I upgraded using her upgrade, but I simply activated it using my number. But that was with Verizon. Might be different with AT&T.So i order it for her and when it gets here do I (1) activate it under her line, take out that sim an put it in her current phone and replace it with my sim or (2) simply put my sim in the new phone and proceed as normal, never activating the new sim they sent. ?
I went over this with the AT&T guy. When you get the phone, do not go through the regular activation process. Instead, you will be doing a transfer and using a phone number included inside the box. Over the phone, they will swap phone numbers between the two devices and activate the way you intend. Like No.16 said, the iPhone 5 uses a mini sim, so you can no longer swap sim cards like you could recently.'No. 16 said:I have never ordered a phone online before so not sure how it works exactly, but I can imagine you can just put your SIM into the phone and it should work. However, I believe the new iPhone 5 might use an even smaller SIM card so you might have to go to an AT&T store anyways to transfer your data to the new smaller sim (contacts, etc). If you have any problems when you go into a AT&T store they should help you out and not give you any problems. Families cross upgrade all the time.ETA: If you have only 2gb worth of photos, video, and data that you want to transfer ANYONE on AT&T can use the AT&T Mobile Transfer app (so you can skip going to the store). Simply DL the mobile transfer app to your old phone, upload your data to the cloud, then on the new phone DL the AT&T mobile Transfer app within 7 days (I believe, but there is a time limit) and download what you uploaded. This service is limited I believe to one per upgrade.ETA2: Actually...if they do use a smaller SIM card you have to go to the AT&T store in order to get your phone number assigned to that SIM.'Goat Herders said:So i order it for her and when it gets here do I (1) activate it under her line, take out that sim an put it in her current phone and replace it with my sim or (2) simply put my sim in the new phone and proceed as normal, never activating the new sim they sent. ?
How current iPhone users see the iPhone 5I'm so geeking out about this. Feel like a kid on Christmas.![]()
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I've done it both ways, if you any problems activating it on your line when it comes just call AT&T. The only hassle I had this last time around was that AT&T tried to turn off my Unlimited Data and I had to call them back and get them to reactivate that (I used my wife's upgrade cause she used mine earlier in the year.)'Goat Herders said:So i order it for her and when it gets here do I (1) activate it under her line, take out that sim an put it in her current phone and replace it with my sim or (2) simply put my sim in the new phone and proceed as normal, never activating the new sim they sent. ?
I found that curious as well. My guess is it affects the antennae.Why did they move the headphone jack to the bottom?
I thought that was pretty stupid and has been bothering me since I read about it. The connection is going to be in the way when holding the phone in your left hand. Doesn't make sense from a user standpoint.I found that curious as well. My guess is it affects the antennae.Why did they move the headphone jack to the bottom?
Also will make it tough to hook up a speaker or headphones when it's docked/charging.I thought that was pretty stupid and has been bothering me since I read about it. The connection is going to be in the way when holding the phone in your left hand. Doesn't make sense from a user standpoint.I found that curious as well. My guess is it affects the antennae.Why did they move the headphone jack to the bottom?
This is how the iPod touch has been, right? Cost savings in manufacturing by arranging them the same way??Also will make it tough to hook up a speaker or headphones when it's docked/charging.I thought that was pretty stupid and has been bothering me since I read about it. The connection is going to be in the way when holding the phone in your left hand. Doesn't make sense from a user standpoint.I found that curious as well. My guess is it affects the antennae.Why did they move the headphone jack to the bottom?
Stop obsessing over the 6 when the 5 hasn't even shipped yet. A redesign is at least 2 years away.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
Stop obsessing over the 6 when the 5 hasn't even shipped yet. A redesign is at least 2 years away.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.

There is no turn by turn GPS on the 4.I currently have a Blackberry and will elligible for upgrade early next year. I had bought my wife a iPhone 4S earlier this year. I love the apple products and will definitely get an iPhone when I upgrade. Reading through this thread, I'm thinking if the iPhone 4 is free for a contract renewal, there's nothing on the iPhone 5 that would be worth paying the $? difference when I upgrade.Mainly what I use a phone for is:Email -----GPS------Web browsingpicture/video takingThe camera on my BB is so bad, I'd probably do more of that with a better camera.
The camera upgrade will blow your mind. There are a couple of things not getting much attention on the 5 that I think are noteworthy. LTE and the new chipset should deliver a faster performance than any iPhone before. Yeah yeah, android already had 4g...but iPhone didnt and now it does and it's going to be wicked fast. The web should work like having wifi everywhere. Next, call quality should be much improved as well with the new 3 speaker system and a redesign of the antenna. Finally, the aspect ratio on the screen will improve Netflix and movie watching. No, that isn't a good reason to buy a phone but it is nice to have. I'll be upgrading simply for the speed boost.I currently have a Blackberry and will elligible for upgrade early next year. I had bought my wife a iPhone 4S earlier this year. I love the apple products and will definitely get an iPhone when I upgrade. Reading through this thread, I'm thinking if the iPhone 4 is free for a contract renewal, there's nothing on the iPhone 5 that would be worth paying the $? difference when I upgrade.Mainly what I use a phone for is:Email -----GPS------Web browsingpicture/video takingThe camera on my BB is so bad, I'd probably do more of that with a better camera.
At least I'm not talking about the iPhone 7, right?This message sent from my iPhone 4.Stop obsessing over the 6 when the 5 hasn't even shipped yet. A redesign is at least 2 years away.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
On the side seems like a bad idea to me. I would think that would cause a lot more pressure on the cord when it's in a pocket. Plus it would make the "footprint" wider when the headphones are plugged it.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
I have to disagree here. A side jack would be horrible if you exercise (arm band) or walk around with it in your pocket. Sure you could use headphones with a 90 degree jack but then the cord would potentially be covering your volume buttons.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
Headphone jack on the side is foolish. Plug it and try to put it in your pocket. Oops...One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
I agree, but to clarify: Apple releases new iphones annually.Stop obsessing over the 6 when the 5 hasn't even shipped yet. A redesign is at least 2 years away.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
Right, but next year likely would be a new iteration of the 5, rather than a redesign. So iPhone5s next year, and then the 6 in two years.Anybody get a shipping notice or any confirmation of delivery date yet?Headphone jack on the side is foolish. Plug it and try to put it in your pocket. Oops...One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.I agree, but to clarify: Apple releases new iphones annually.Stop obsessing over the 6 when the 5 hasn't even shipped yet. A redesign is at least 2 years away.One of Apple's flaws in design. The headphone jack should have always been on the side. Makes too much sense to have it around the volume buttons instead of top or bottom. I hope the iP6 has it on the side.
There is no turn by turn GPS on the 4.I currently have a Blackberry and will elligible for upgrade early next year. I had bought my wife a iPhone 4S earlier this year. I love the apple products and will definitely get an iPhone when I upgrade. Reading through this thread, I'm thinking if the iPhone 4 is free for a contract renewal, there's nothing on the iPhone 5 that would be worth paying the $? difference when I upgrade.Mainly what I use a phone for is:Email -----GPS------Web browsingpicture/video takingThe camera on my BB is so bad, I'd probably do more of that with a better camera.
Maybe you guys didn't understand, I was trying to talk myself into the FREE phone.Thanks for the info though. Those are some good reasons to pay for it. It will be a phone I'll use for a couple years, and having had the Blackberry for the last couple, it has been a PITA to have a phone that was outdated from day 1.The camera upgrade will blow your mind. There are a couple of things not getting much attention on the 5 that I think are noteworthy. LTE and the new chipset should deliver a faster performance than any iPhone before. Yeah yeah, android already had 4g...but iPhone didnt and now it does and it's going to be wicked fast. The web should work like having wifi everywhere. Next, call quality should be much improved as well with the new 3 speaker system and a redesign of the antenna. Finally, the aspect ratio on the screen will improve Netflix and movie watching. No, that isn't a good reason to buy a phone but it is nice to have. I'll be upgrading simply for the speed boost.I currently have a Blackberry and will elligible for upgrade early next year. I had bought my wife a iPhone 4S earlier this year. I love the apple products and will definitely get an iPhone when I upgrade. Reading through this thread, I'm thinking if the iPhone 4 is free for a contract renewal, there's nothing on the iPhone 5 that would be worth paying the $? difference when I upgrade.Mainly what I use a phone for is:Email -----GPS------Web browsingpicture/video takingThe camera on my BB is so bad, I'd probably do more of that with a better camera.
Apple Insider LinkI guess the majority of us will find out soon enough.Finally, Maynard Um with Wells Fargo Securities said in a note to investors on Monday that he expects Apple will face supply constraints of the iPhone 5 at launch. Apple did acknowledge on Monday that demand for the iPhone 5 currently exceeds supply, but the company also said the "majority of preorders" will be delivered to customers on Sept. 21.
New orders of the iPhone 5 are not scheduled to arrive until October, which would push those sales to Apple's December quarter. Leading up to the holiday shopping season, Um expects Apple will resolve its supply constraints "rather quickly" and catch up to consumer demand for the iPhone 5.
of course there is.There is no turn by turn GPS on the 4.I currently have a Blackberry and will elligible for upgrade early next year. I had bought my wife a iPhone 4S earlier this year. I love the apple products and will definitely get an iPhone when I upgrade. Reading through this thread, I'm thinking if the iPhone 4 is free for a contract renewal, there's nothing on the iPhone 5 that would be worth paying the $? difference when I upgrade.Mainly what I use a phone for is:Email -----GPS------Web browsingpicture/video takingThe camera on my BB is so bad, I'd probably do more of that with a better camera.
Looks like their LTE coverage is pretty small:http://www.cspire.com/resources/docs/maps/data.pdfSweet! CSpire made it official that they will have the iPhone 5 this month.http://www.cspire.com/shop_and_learn/promos/offer/?id=iphone5&WT.ac=m_iphone5_coming
Yep they're just starting to roll out LTE.Looks like their LTE coverage is pretty small:http://www.cspire.com/resources/docs/maps/data.pdfSweet! CSpire made it official that they will have the iPhone 5 this month.http://www.cspire.com/shop_and_learn/promos/offer/?id=iphone5&WT.ac=m_iphone5_coming
A lot of the first(early) pre-orders have been notified. Majority coming from China with a few I've seen being shipped from Tennessee and Illinois.still no notice that it is shipping.

All ordered though Apple? I ordered through ATT's site based on somebody saying Apple.com wasn't taking anymore order at 7am.A lot of the first(early) pre-orders have been notified. Majority coming from China with a few I've seen being shipped from Tennessee and Illinois.still no notice that it is shipping.
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Same here.Mine still says 'Processing'
Yea I believe they were all apple store orders. Rud, if you go to the UPS website, track your order by reference number which would be your cell phone number. And you can get the shipping info that way.All ordered though Apple? I ordered through ATT's site based on somebody saying Apple.com wasn't taking anymore order at 7am.A lot of the first(early) pre-orders have been notified. Majority coming from China with a few I've seen being shipped from Tennessee and Illinois.still no notice that it is shipping.
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Interesting.It says it left China yesterday, spent about 5 hours in Hong Kong, then spent 3 hours in Korea, and recently landed in Anchorage Alaska.Scheduled to deliver in Seattle on 9/21.Rud, if you go to the UPS website, track your order by reference number which would be your cell phone number. And you can get the shipping info that way.
There ya go.Interesting.It says it left China yesterday, spent about 5 hours in Hong Kong, then spent 3 hours in Korea, and recently landed in Anchorage Alaska.Scheduled to deliver in Seattle on 9/21.Rud, if you go to the UPS website, track your order by reference number which would be your cell phone number. And you can get the shipping info that way.