The Avengers (1 Viewer)

[Arsenal of Doom]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

 

[jdoggydogg]

You know what would be kind of neat? A real dark Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot.

Ninja Turtles is being made for release in 2013. Whether it will be dark or not I have no idea. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/

Nickelodeon has its hands on it and it says its the more cartoony comics. The real turtles were not all pizza and Kowabunga.

Michael Bay is involved in this and it's going to be the worst thing ever.

I'm not going to sit still while you bad mouth a fine director like Michael Bay.Oh wait...yes I am.

 

[Copeman]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

 

[NCCommish]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

It will be interesting to watch. I don't see it dropping anywhere near 50 and is most certainly going to rise in the next couple of weeks. The amount of votes already is huge as they are already over 120k. The older voters are voting it slightly lower but even their ratings are very high compared to a normal popcorn movie.

 

[Tom Servo]

You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)

The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

link?

http://forums.footba...howtopic=631900

A little late here, but do these only download to PC or can you DL them onto a Nook? TIA

 

[NewlyRetired]

You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)

The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

link?

http://forums.footba...howtopic=631900

A little late here, but do these only download to PC or can you DL them onto a Nook? TIA

I have no idea, I have never used a Nook. Do you normally download files to a nook and unzip them? If so, try one and see what happens. You will need an app that can read cbr/cbz files on the Nook.

 

[Copeman]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

 

[Tom Servo]

You should try out The Walking Dead to see if you like the format. We have a thread running here that has the issues all easily available with a simple download (no torrent)

The iPad is near perfect for reading comics.

link?

http://forums.footba...howtopic=631900

A little late here, but do these only download to PC or can you DL them onto a Nook? TIA

I have no idea, I have never used a Nook. Do you normally download files to a nook and unzip them? If so, try one and see what happens. You will need an app that can read cbr/cbz files on the Nook.

99% of the time, I DL right from B&N right to the Nook. The only time I went through the PC I then moved it to the Nook. I suppose I can try, what the hey??

 

[17seconds]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix.

It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

Agree.I remember the first LOTR movie being in the top 3 all time on the IMDB list (above Godfather) for quite a while when it came out. It's 15 now.

However, The Dark Knight being #8 tells you this list is highly skewed by the geeky, angst-ridden teenager demographic.

 

[NCCommish]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

World War Hulk pretty much bears this out. Of course the real answer to the question is - whatever the writer at hand wants and the Marvel editors approve.

 

[Copeman]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

Hulk vs Superman?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Hulk vs Superman?

How about Hulk vs. Full Sized Ditka?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

Hulk vs Superman?

Hulk.

 

[NCCommish]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

Hulk vs Superman?

Didn't Doomsday kill Supes? Pretty sure Hulk beats Doomsday.

 

[NCCommish]

Hulk vs Superman?

How about Hulk vs. Full Sized Ditka?

Full sized? Ditka.

 

[James Daulton]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

Hulk vs Superman?

Hulk.

I think the key to Hulk is that his strength increases the madder he gets, and when he's fighting he's continually getting more pissed so his strength is basically limitless. I think he beat Superman's ### one time, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

 

[Copeman]

Have they made the right move in making the Hulk CGI or whatever (as in earlier movies as well), instead of using the biggest muscle bound freak they could find to act the Hulk part?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Have they made the right move in making the Hulk CGI or whatever (as in earlier movies as well), instead of using the biggest muscle bound freak they could find to act the Hulk part?

Without question, yes.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix.

It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

Agree.I remember the first LOTR movie being in the top 3 all time on the IMDB list (above Godfather) for quite a while when it came out. It's 15 now.

However, The Dark Knight being #8 tells you this list is highly skewed by the geeky, angst-ridden teenager demographic.

Not according to the demographics who voted on The Dark Knight. Only 15k votes out of 690,000 total votes were from people under 18 years old. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/ratings

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

Yea, wasn't the Dark Knight #1 after it opened or something?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

IMDB ranks are pure crap. Way too many haters to take it seriously.

 

[NewlyRetired]

IMDB ranks are pure crap. Way too many haters to take it seriously.

18k people gave The Dark Knight a rating of a 1 Imdb is suppose to have a way to filter out much of the crap but nothing is perfect. I still enjoy watching the ratings change through the years.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

Yea, wasn't the Dark Knight #1 after it opened or something?

Yes but only after a relatively small amount of votes(23k). It started to drop as soon as more votes came in. http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/the-dark-knight-currently-ranked-1-on-imdbs-top-250/This what makes Avengers interesting. It is rising as votes come in, at least so far. It started at 39 at around 20k votes and has risen up to 25th now that 120k votes are in.

 

[Disco Stu]

Have they made the right move in making the Hulk CGI or whatever (as in earlier movies as well), instead of using the biggest muscle bound freak they could find to act the Hulk part?

Without question, yes.

Hulk sad.

 

[The Duff Man]

In Old Man Logan, Hulk appears to be killed by Wolverine in the last book. I wont spoil how it happens.

I am not sure if that series is an alternate universe or mainstream.

 

[NewlyRetired]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Have they made the right move in making the Hulk CGI or whatever (as in earlier movies as well), instead of using the biggest muscle bound freak they could find to act the Hulk part?

Without question, yes.

Hulk sad.

 

[NCCommish]

In Old Man Logan, Hulk appears to be killed by Wolverine in the last book. I wont spoil how it happens.I am not sure if that series is an alternate universe or mainstream.

It's one of the many alternates and featured inbred hillbilly Hulks.

 

[TylerRoseFan]

Holy crap this thread attracted all the geeks. I love it.

 

[hutchins929]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It was a good movie but not that good. Maybe a top 5 superhero movie but 13-17 overall? no way!

 

[Thunderlips]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

can the Hulk move the Blob or not be moved by The Juggernaut?

 

[Thunderlips]

IIRC, Superman won in DC v. Marvel.

 

[Hawks64]

IIRC, Superman won in DC v. Marvel.

Flagship vs non Flagship character. Superman is #1 or #1B in DC, Hulk isn't the same in the Marvel universe.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It was a good movie but not that good. Maybe a top 5 superhero movie but 13-17 overall? no way!

Dark Knight is at 8Batman Begin is 117No other Super Hero movies in the top 250 from what I can tell outside of Avengers at 25. It is almost impossible (assuming no screwing with the votes) for Avengers to end up lower than the number 2 Superhero movie. Unless I missed something obvious in the listhttp://www.imdb.com/chart/top

 

[KarmaPolice]

Just saw this today. It's no surprise, but I really liked the way that Joss handled the different character traits with the heroes and was able to let them all have their identities and juggle it well enough so it didn't become too much. Also had a lot of good humor in the movie.

On the downside, I still think Loki is a lame villain (although I will admit he is 3X better here than in Thor), there was a little too much in-house fighting, and the final battle was starting to remind me a little too much of Transformers.

Even with the complaints, it's a damn good popcorn movie and probably my 2nd favorite of the Marvel movies now.

Oh, and people seriously take their 4 and 5 year olds to this?

 

[17seconds]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

By the time this is over it will be the biggest franchise in the history of movies. Several of the characters already have, or will have, spinoff franchises. I think we're going to see Avengers movies and movies with Avengers characters for the next 10 years or as long as the actors playing them are viable.

 

[NewlyRetired]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

By the time this is over it will be the biggest franchise in the history of movies. Several of the characters already have, or will have, spinoff franchises. I think we're going to see Avengers movies and movies with Avengers characters for the next 10 years or as long as the actors playing them are viable.

Biggest in what terms? It's going to have to go a long way to make as many movies as the Bond Franchise which itself will likely keep making movies after Skyfall comes out this year.Depending on how you count Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again, there have been up to 25 Bond movies (this includes Skyfall).

 

[17seconds]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

By the time this is over it will be the biggest franchise in the history of movies. Several of the characters already have, or will have, spinoff franchises. I think we're going to see Avengers movies and movies with Avengers characters for the next 10 years or as long as the actors playing them are viable.

Biggest in what terms? It's going to have to go a long way to make as many movies as the Bond Franchise which itself will likely keep making movies after Skyfall comes out this year.

Let's say total gross adjusted for inflation for all movies made starring these characters. Includes movies before The Avengers. Doesn't include previous Hulk movies.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

By the time this is over it will be the biggest franchise in the history of movies. Several of the characters already have, or will have, spinoff franchises. I think we're going to see Avengers movies and movies with Avengers characters for the next 10 years or as long as the actors playing them are viable.

Biggest in what terms? It's going to have to go a long way to make as many movies as the Bond Franchise which itself will likely keep making movies after Skyfall comes out this year.

Let's say total gross adjusted for inflation for all movies made starring these characters. Includes movies before The Avengers. Doesn't include previous Hulk movies.

 

[NewlyRetired]

In arguably the least surprising news ever Disney CEO Announces Avengers Sequal Is A Go

By the time this is over it will be the biggest franchise in the history of movies. Several of the characters already have, or will have, spinoff franchises. I think we're going to see Avengers movies and movies with Avengers characters for the next 10 years or as long as the actors playing them are viable.

Biggest in what terms? It's going to have to go a long way to make as many movies as the Bond Franchise which itself will likely keep making movies after Skyfall comes out this year.

Let's say total gross adjusted for inflation for all movies made starring these characters. Includes movies before The Avengers. Doesn't include previous Hulk movies.

I can see that happening.

 

[Big B]

Saw it today x sixtythousandmillion

...some of the Hulk scenes had me

 

[moleculo]

So if I wanted to do some reading of old comic books to get some back-stories and flesh out the movie a little more, where would I start? It looks like there have been about a dozen Avenger series published... Are they all cannonical?

 

[NewlyRetired]

So if I wanted to do some reading of old comic books to get some back-stories and flesh out the movie a little more, where would I start? It looks like there have been about a dozen Avenger series published... Are they all cannonical?

Here is the order I am going to read in when I get to the series in my queue. I searched online and this appears to be a preferred order. The numbers below represent issue numbers.Avengers 1-402Avengers V2 1-13Avengers V3 1-84Avengers Disassembled New Avengers 1-55The Avengers Initiative 1-26The Mighty Avengers 1-28Dark Avengers 1-10Invaders 1-12Young Avengers- Young Avengers issues 1-12- Young Avengers Special- Civil War: Young Avengers & Runaways issues 1-4

 

[sports_fan]

Avengers has now moved up the the 25th all time highest ranked movie by IMDB users. In a couple of days it will move past Silence of the Lambs, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Rear Window, and the Matrix. It should settle in anywhere between 13-17th when all is said and done.

It's a good, fun movie, but wow.....

Yeah this is much higher than I expected especially given the extremely light hearted tone of the movie. Still, great for all those who worked their butts off. This is going to give Whedon some serious juice now.

Those IMDB rankings generally settle in lower over time. Right now the people voting are the ones who rushed out to see it and are more predisposed to like it. Eventually older, grumpier voters will rate it and it will go down. It's probably a lock for the top 50 though given the enthusiastic audience response.

Yea, wasn't the Dark Knight #1 after it opened or something?

It's pretty common. WALL·E was in the top 10 for a while. IIRC, it went as high as #2.

 

[netnalp]

Avengers was really good, but it's not better than Dark Knight.

The movies should not be compared. One is fun and filled with humor and one is driven on darkness. I enjoyed them both but for extremely different reasons.

Yeah, totally different extremes of the same genre. Marvel has been purposeful in going with a lighter tone, and I think it serves this group of characters well. There are some Marvel characters that could have that same gritty pseudo-reality treatment that Nolan used so effectively in Dark Knight, but with Hulk, Thor and Iron Man it would be ridiculous.Both are great in their own way. Though I do have to say, for pure entertainment and joy, I'd probably watch Avengers 9 times out of 10 over Dark Knight. The other time I'd likely be drunk and pissed off about something.

The Frank Miller stories for Daredevil could provide Dark Knight-like grittiness.

The Miller-penned "Born Again" storyline is supposedly serving as the basis for a Daredevil relaunch that is in development.

So long as Ben Afflack stays far away from the project. That movie is probably the worst comic book movie IMO. Worse than the Clooney and Kilmer Batmans. IT may have turned me off of the character completely.

Rumors I've heard is the guy from the Transporter movies wants to play Daredevil and Frank Miller has given his approval of that guy. I'm probably such a Daredevil fan that is biases me. The Director's cut is a better movie, and I enjoyed it better than both Hulk movies, all 3 Punishers, Wolverine: Origins and both Ghost Riders. And it was better than Howard the Duck, yeah that's a Marvel character.

 

[netnalp]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

True, Captain America and Daredevil once beat the Hulk together.

 

[netnalp]

It seems that powers are scaled back some in the movies although Thor is probably the most powerful single hero in the Marvel Universe that I can think of.

It's hard to quantify but prior to Thor getting the Odin power I would take Hulk in any throwdown. There just doesn't seem to be an upper limit to his strength. When he goes all "HULK SMASH!" he's pretty much unstoppable.

This was pretty much my take on the "who is the most unstoppable" question. I am in my 40's and thru the years I have never known any entity that defeats Hulk. That included Thor. And I am a huge fan of Thor. Hulk's strength is based on his anger. That's pure human emotion. There is no limit to emotion. Thus there is no limit to Hulk and his strength. But I love Thor and the whole brother against brother story.

I agree that Hulk probably beats Thor. I think Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange beat Hulk.

I believe Hulk has already nearly beaten Silver Surfer to death in Secret Wars.

Has there been a 3rd Secret Wars? I don't recall the Surfer and Hulk fighting in Secret Wars 1 or 2. The only Hulk vs. Surfer battle I'm familiar with are:Tales to Astonish # 93, The battle ends with the Hulk being knocked unconscious.Incredible Hulk # 250, The former Galactus herald absorbs the gamma energy from the Hulk's body, turning him back into Bruce Banner. Silver Surfer # 125, Don't think they really fight much in this one, from the summaries I've read.Incredible Hulk v2 # 95, Surprised by his former ally's attack, the Hulk recovered and shattered the Surfer's control disk but nonetheless angrily beat him senseless.I'd say they are even since in the second battle the Surfer drained the gamma energy, removing the Hulk rather than physically besting Hulk.

 

[fsufan]

I’m not a comic book kind of guy, but I do enjoy the movies. Looking back through this thread I see some people predicting who the villain will be in the second Avengers installment and talk of who can beat who regarding the villains and superheroes. How do you know who can beat who? I mean, Thor and the Hulk don’t seem like they can be killed. And the other “Gods” that are mentioned. How can they be killed? Is it something like a Superman and Kryptonite thing or something??

The Asgardians can be killed but it takes someone/something on their level to do it. After all Ragnarok is all about the destruction of the Norse Gods. Hulk is virtually indestructible due to his regenerative powers but unless the Hulk persona becomes dominant or separated from Banner he only lives as long as Banner does. If he does do one of those things he could live pretty much forever and IIRC canon has that happening.

So could the Hulk kill Thor, or vice versa? It sure didn't/doesn't seem like it.Could a nuke kill Thor? Or Hulk?

When he is the Hulk he is essentially indestructible. He would shrug off a nuke. Hulk has nearly killed Thor at least once and it took major intervention by other godlike folks to bring Thor back. Really Hulk is the apex guy at Marvel. He can survive space without a suit. He can survive any weapon that's ever been devised to stop him. He has even shown the ability to use supernatural powers on occasion. When the Hulk is mad and rolling he is the unstoppable force.

Hulk vs Superman?

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