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Isn't the definition of a bust, a player severely underperforming his ADP? Whether anyone thinks he is good or not, or just fast, or cant run routes, yada yada yada, its moot. You guys are losing sight of what a bust is. He was drafted high everywhere and he's been probably the least productive player PER SNAP in the NFL. He is 100%...a BUST.
So your policy is to draft only players who have reached their ultimate potential and logged elite performances for more than half of the prior season. Oh and you're smarter and a better talent evaluator than NFL GMs and scouts that unanimously labeled him a first rounder. Sounds like a practical fantasy strategy regardless.
You would be nuts to have drafted this guy high. He absolutely screams Robert Meachem when I watch him play. He was not even on my radar in redraft.
Yeah. I would say I am. I mean, who was right and who was wrong? I never thought this guy was anything. Just a fast guy. Are you one of these guys that thinks these GM's and scouts are all Harvard level geniuses? Understand that they are not. A lot of them are recycled losers that other team have fired for incompetence. I simply only need to give one example of a coach to prove my point.
in my humble opinion....it takes more of an adp dropoff than what shady and marshall have done to be a bust....plus with 6 weeks left it wouldn't take much for these guys to climb back up closer to their ADP......a guy like Patterson is a different story...
These are big name/ticket guys. Guys that FF players have come to rely on year in year out for a little while. While Marshall has not been bad a lot of guys taken way after him have kicked his ###. And Lamar Miller has out played and scored Shady.....Shady is a massive bust thus far. I think he is playing lousy football.
Why? Because they both played at Tennessee? The 2 players are nothing alike. Patterson with the ball in space is probably the most electric runner in the game right now, maybe next to Harvin. Patterson also had a lot of success in the run game when he was being utilized there last season. Meachem was a situational deep threat and a bad one at that. Nor has Meachem even approached a 5-game stretch like Patterson had last year. You can all say its 5 games, yada yada yada, ummm that's a big sample size in the NFL. In fact I cant think of another player who had a stretch like that then just fell off the map. 1 game, ok. 2 games, fine...not 5. Patterson obviously needs a lot of refinement to his game, but his freakish athleticism is very much real.
I would say ADP is the biggest bust of the year because when you make your list, it should be a guy that we went into the season saying "no way this guy isn't solid" and you go in thinking that there really aren't any reservations on.SameSongNDance said:
Stafford has been serviceable, McCoy has been too. People were silly for buying the Patterson hype to begin with so that's there own fault and a lot of people said all offseason that Vernon wouldn't repeat the high TD rate.
Stafford had an ADP of 4. He is cuurently ranked right behind Eli Manning at 15. People were drafting him over Luck.
Over the final six games of his rookie year, he averaged 72 yards from scrimmage and a TD a game. Considering he was a rookie and just figuring things out, I think that expecting a trend upward in 2014 was not unreasonable.
Because if you drafted decent enough depth or were active on the WW, it didn't kill your season because you plugged in someone else.
In my 10 team redraft picking 5th, I got:
Latavius Murray has as many TDs in 4 touches tonight as Shady has for the entire ####### season. I never would've thought of Shady as a between the 20's workhorse who also is not utilized in the passing game. THAT is not what I thought I was drafting.
Agreed
huh?
Suckage in fantasy yes, but that's only because the lack of TD's which hasn't really been his fault (Red Zone turnovers, throwing a lot in RZ, etc)
I'm just naming a few guys who are busts
Good list
Not saying mistakes weren't made, but a bust is a guy that just completely is off the map in relation to expectations. Stafford is a mild disappointment but he's nowhere near the feeling you have if you drafted a guy like Peterson. You can still use Stafford. You just have to be realistic he is 10-15 on any given week with the possibility of a top 5 day, unlike Peterson who you know is worth absolute zero.
He has been just as, if not more likely to post QB25 numbers as he has QB5. Stafford owners in both my leagues will miss the playoffs because everyone still played him as if he was match up proof.
Why even participate in a draft if your team will be fine picking from the waiver wire? Also, you named 2 guys who are performing well every week but what if you were unlucky enough to pick up B.Oliver or J.McKinnon or whatever Cle RB was hot that week or whatever TB RB was hot that week.
He did in his original post put 'injuries not withstanding"
Stafford was drafted either QB4 or QB5, right with Andrew Luck. In my leagues, Stafford is currently QB14 in both. That's a bust in my books. You could have waited 3 rounds later and got the same if not better QB production.Deamon said:
Deamon said:
before injury Ball was averaging 11.5 PPG in PPR which would put him in the RB2 crowd of a 12 team league....considering he was drafted after most of the big dogs (not sure of his exact ADP)....that is not that big of a dropoff, at least not as big as shady right now....Deamon said:
Megaton was gone when the atomic bomb was activated. The sheriff was a nice guy, too. I could live without the barkeeper.
