The Bill Barr Appreciation Thread (1 Viewer)

[Sheriff Bart]

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/protect-democracy-project/

The Capital Research Center (CRC), a right-wing opposition research group with deep ties to PR spin doctor Richard Berman and bankrolled by the $800 million Bradley Foundation, launched an “Encyclopedia of the Left” inspired by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD)’s Sourcewatch.org this month called Influence Watch.

 

[Max Power]

The Capital Research Center (CRC), a right-wing opposition research group with deep ties to PR spin doctor Richard Berman and bankrolled by the $800 million Bradley Foundation, launched an “Encyclopedia of the Left” inspired by the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD)’s Sourcewatch.org this month called Influence Watch.

Media bias rates their factual reporting as HIGH.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/protect-democracy-project/

The Protect Democracy Project (PDP) is a left-of-center litigation organization created to oppose the policies of President Donald Trump.

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Thanks, however this is from the same site:

Protect Democracy Project and United to Protect Democracy list dozens of advisers to the organizations. Notable advisers include Jerry Taylor, president of the nominally libertarian think tank Niskanen Center; failed 2016 presidential candidate and Stand Up Republic co-founder Evan McMullin; failed 2016 vice presidential candidate and Stand Up Republic co-founder Mindy Finn; and Defending Democracy Together directors Mona Charen and Linda Chavez.

These are all Republicans and conservatives.

Now obviously McCarthy, Graham and McConnell are misleading people.

 

[Max Power]

Thanks, however this is from the same site:

These are all Republicans and conservatives.

Now obviously McCarthy, Graham and McConnell are misleading people.

The group was formed after Trump's election and has only pursued causes that run counter to Trump. 

So they were correct in calling it a left wing organization.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The group was formed after Trump's election and has only pursued causes that run counter to Trump. 

So they were correct in calling it a left wing organization.  

You're making the absurd proposition that Republicans and conservatives are left wing. This is - with all due respect to you - quite contorted.

 

[Max Power]

You're making the absurd proposition that Republicans and conservatives are left wing. This is - with all due respect to you - quite contorted.

Is your opinion that a Republican can't work for a left wing organization?  Or a single conservative in the group means it can't have a left wing agenda?

I sourced my work.  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Is your opinion that a Republican can't work for a left wing organization?  Or a single conservative in the group means it can't have a left wing agenda?

I sourced my work.  

I'm saying that an organization that is partly composed of Republicans, conservatives and libertarians cannot be left wing, inherantly.

I did as well, I used your source.

 

[Max Power]

I'm saying that an organization that is partly composed of Republicans, conservatives and libertarians cannot be left wing, inherantly.

I did as well, I used your source.

Can you point me to one thing this group has ever done that is pro Trump or even pro right-wing?  

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Can you point me to one thing this group has ever done that is pro Trump or even pro right-wing?  

I think you and I are in a continuing refusal-to-give discussion about what is right/left wing then. To me left wing connotes liberal, progressive, demsoc or socialist. Right wing connotes conservative, libertarian, authoritarian. Those are mighty big umbrellas.

So yes while PDP does do certain work that is "left wing" - like say pushing back on draconian immigration policies - they also in my opinion do "right wing" work whenever they push back on anything involving expanding executive power - so their work on Trump purging (and debilitating) the NSC, pardon abuse, going beyond presidential war powers, fighting against claims of presidential immunity and claims that the President cannot be subjected to legal processes, and violations of federalism - all to me are conservative efforts (though say some liberals may also share in those values) and thus "right wing." But obviously these are not pro-Trump.

And in general this whole convo unpacks the devotion to the singular authority - one man, one leader, who is supposed to speak for one party, one people - which is constantly going on and has been since roughly 2015. That is not the case, that is decidedly not conservative or libertarian.  Trump and his Congressional lackeys seem intent on defining what is ideologically "correct" simply by adherence and obeisance to this single authority concept. Yes, given the social policies that's "right wing" but not everyone opposed to that is "left wing". It's obviously a conscious attempt to brand people in a certain way though, age old trick that.

 

[sho nuff]

Can you point me to one thing this group has ever done that is pro Trump or even pro right-wing?  

Anti Trump does not mean left wing.  

 

[Ilov80s]

The one thing that’s odd to me as well is why would Trump or Barr interfere if Trump could just pardon him on day 1?