The Birther Conspiracy Thread (2 Viewers)

[timschochet]

How much money has WorldNet.Daily made peddling this stuff? Last I heard it was over 15 million, but that was over 18 months ago.

 

[timschochet]

Can't wait for some yutz to bring this up during the 2012 election. Maybe even in a debate. God, how priceless would that be?

It has to be asked during the first GOP debate, which should be coming up this summer. With (hopefully) Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin there, its already going to be a train wreck. But somebody's gotta ask, "Do you think the Birther movement is crazy?" Let them fall all over themselves trying to avoid giving an answer. It will be hilarious.

 

[flapgreen]

What's going on in here?

 

[David Dodds]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

 

[mad sweeney]

I for one encourage you on your tirade along these lines of belief over fact.You should not let this stand as long as you believe otherwise!

My belief is consistent with all the facts. The whole Obama birth certificate case is a house of cards. I presented a theory which if true brings down that house. There are just too many pieces missing. No photographs of baby Obama in his mothers arms in the hospital. No friends to testify that he was in fact born there. No doctor, nurse or anyone who can recall this blessed event. Without a signed document by a doctor, I am not buying it. Yes we have a newspaper clipping and the state of Hawaii accepting some unidentified vital record which they accepted as proof of his birth in Hawaii. It is not that rock solid of a case. Really, it is not.

I really think this whole conversation is quite silly, but I am hopped up on pain meds. I didn't see your theory, but am only going to comment on what your quoted post.President Obama is approximately my age. My parents had no pictures of me in my mothers arms in the hospital. The only person who is living that could verify where I was born is my 81 year old aunt. Except for her, there is not a person alive who could verify that I was born in Mercy Hospital in New Orleans. I have an older living sibling and she is only 5 years older than me and she has no memory of my birth. She does have a memory of me of a baby crying keeping her up at night and she wanted my parents to return me to the hospital, but no memory of me in the hospital.President Obama has more proof than I do of where he was born. And one more point that I don't think gets brought up enough....wasn't his mother, Ann Dunham, an American citizen born in Kansas? If true(and I believe it is), that would make President Obama a citizen of the US no matter where he was born in the world. This whole argument from the extreme right is downright wacky.(My contribution to get it to 30 pages )

Apparently being born American isn't natural enough for the Right so all the bitter losers are harping about this as if they know the Constitution writers meant "born in America" rather than being a "natural born citizen". Seems to me, especially since we've had a President that wasn't born here, that if you pop out of the womb as an American, you are a naturally born American. Loonies just love to build up their house of cards, claim to follow fact when they're chasing windmills, and just remain bitter that an overwhelming number of Americans didn't want their side to have the keys to the car anymore because of how ####ed up they left it when they had it last.

 

[mad sweeney]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

And a Muslim. And since he deliberately uses a Christian term in his name that means he is putting Allah over America's god and spitting in the face of Jesus and God and is bent on creating the United Sharia States of America.

 

[Clinton]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

And a Muslim. And since he deliberately uses a Christian term in his name that means he is putting Allah over America's god and spitting in the face of Jesus and God and is bent on creating the United Sharia States of America.

 

[flapgreen]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

The running kind?

 

[urbanhack]

any chance we can get this to 30 pages today?

we gave it a run

I see. Sorry I had to duck out early.

 

[Sam Quentin]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

And a Muslim. And since he deliberately uses a Christian term in his name that means he is putting Allah over America's god and spitting in the face of Jesus and God and is bent on creating the United Sharia States of America.

wow, and they say birthers are crazyholy hell....

 

[Sam Quentin]

I'm shocked that Road Dog has only 35 posts...It seems that everytime I click the thread, he has 3 or 4 cringe-worthingly bad postings...

Says the guy with 94 ultra-cringe-worthy posts.

...and i ain't even worked up a sweat yet....

 

[CBusAlex]

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

The running kind?

Is there any other kind?

 

[pantagrapher]

Michelle Bachmann wants to see 30 pages, #######it.

Bachmann: 'Isn't For Me To State' Whether Obama Is A Citizen (VIDEO)

Eric Kleefeld | February 17, 2011, 12:12PM

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), the national Tea Party star who is eyeing a possible run for President, is now refusing to shoot down birtherism -- saying only that it "isn't for me to state," and she takes President Obama at his word.

But wait a second. As avid Bachmannologists will note, a major part of her approach is that she doesn't take Obama at his word!

Bachmann's exchange with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News comes in the wake of recent polling showing that over half of GOP primary voters buy into the conspiracy theories that Obama was not born in the United States.

link

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Michelle Bachmann wants to see 30 pages, #######it.

Bachmann: 'Isn't For Me To State' Whether Obama Is A Citizen (VIDEO)

Eric Kleefeld | February 17, 2011, 12:12PM

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), the national Tea Party star who is eyeing a possible run for President, is now refusing to shoot down birtherism -- saying only that it "isn't for me to state," and she takes President Obama at his word.

But wait a second. As avid Bachmannologists will note, a major part of her approach is that she doesn't take Obama at his word!

Bachmann's exchange with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News comes in the wake of recent polling showing that over half of GOP primary voters buy into the conspiracy theories that Obama was not born in the United States.

link

God I hope she runs.. and Palin too. Perfect storm.

 

[Fennis]

Michelle Bachmann wants to see 30 pages, #######it.

Bachmann: 'Isn't For Me To State' Whether Obama Is A Citizen (VIDEO)

Eric Kleefeld | February 17, 2011, 12:12PM

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), the national Tea Party star who is eyeing a possible run for President, is now refusing to shoot down birtherism -- saying only that it "isn't for me to state," and she takes President Obama at his word.

But wait a second. As avid Bachmannologists will note, a major part of her approach is that she doesn't take Obama at his word!

Bachmann's exchange with George Stephanopoulos on ABC News comes in the wake of recent polling showing that over half of GOP primary voters buy into the conspiracy theories that Obama was not born in the United States.

link

I liked the headline on Slate:Bachmann comes out as birther-curious

 

[Saints-Man]

What's going on in here?

Saints-Man admitted to being a Kenyan too

The running kind?

Hey...I did run to daylight.

 

[Lutherman2112]

Thought I would give this jalopy of a thread a little nudge.

Mike Huckabee: Obama grew up in Kenya

In a radio interview on Monday, potential presidential candidate Mike Huckabee repeatedly made false claims that President Obama grew up in Kenya, according to a report by Media Matters.

In an interview on WOR's "The Steve Malzberg Show," Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and 2008 presidential candidate, made repeated references to Mr. Obama's "having grown up in Kenya," and spoke of him having grown up "with a Kenyan father and grandfather" - despite the fact that Mr. Obama grew up largely in Hawaii and barely knew his father at all.

In responding to host Steve Malzberg's question about whether "we deserve to know more about this man" and his origins, Huckabee responded that "I would love to know more."

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

Citing the fact that Mr. Obama in 2009 returned a bust of Winston Churchill to the British Embassy (an act Huckabee described as "a great insult" to the British), Huckabee said, "If you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

There is no evidence to support the idea that the president grew up in Kenya, and various reports show he spent little time with his father over the course of his life. According to a New York Times report detailing the president's Kenyan roots, Mr. Obama has visited Kenya only three times, most recently in 2006. According to the president's 1995 memoir "Dreams from My Father," he visited Kenya for the first time in the late 1980s after his father was already dead.

Indeed, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and spent most of his childhood there with his mother and his mother's family (he also lived in Indonesia from 1967-1971). In "Dreams From My Father," Mr. Obama writes about his experience coming to terms with the absence of a strong paternal presence in his life.

Nevertheless, a small faction of Americans known as "birthers" continue to dispute Mr. Obama's American citizenship, despite the fact that the claim has been repeatedly debunked and his birth certificate made publicly available.

When asked if he would bring up the "birther" issue with Mr. Obama in a presidential debate, however, Huckabee expressed doubts.

"The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons," Huckabee said. "And believe me, they had lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."

 

[Sinn Fein]

Thought I would give this jalopy of a thread a little nudge.

Mike Huckabee: Obama grew up in Kenya

In a radio interview on Monday, potential presidential candidate Mike Huckabee repeatedly made false claims that President Obama grew up in Kenya, according to a report by Media Matters.

"The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons," Huckabee said. "And believe me, they had lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."

 

[glock]

Thought I would give this jalopy of a thread a little nudge.

Mike Huckabee: Obama grew up in Kenya

In a radio interview on Monday, potential presidential candidate Mike Huckabee repeatedly made false claims that President Obama grew up in Kenya, according to a report by Media Matters.

In an interview on WOR's "The Steve Malzberg Show," Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and 2008 presidential candidate, made repeated references to Mr. Obama's "having grown up in Kenya," and spoke of him having grown up "with a Kenyan father and grandfather" - despite the fact that Mr. Obama grew up largely in Hawaii and barely knew his father at all.

In responding to host Steve Malzberg's question about whether "we deserve to know more about this man" and his origins, Huckabee responded that "I would love to know more."

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

Citing the fact that Mr. Obama in 2009 returned a bust of Winston Churchill to the British Embassy (an act Huckabee described as "a great insult" to the British), Huckabee said, "If you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

There is no evidence to support the idea that the president grew up in Kenya, and various reports show he spent little time with his father over the course of his life. According to a New York Times report detailing the president's Kenyan roots, Mr. Obama has visited Kenya only three times, most recently in 2006. According to the president's 1995 memoir "Dreams from My Father," he visited Kenya for the first time in the late 1980s after his father was already dead.

Indeed, Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii and spent most of his childhood there with his mother and his mother's family (he also lived in Indonesia from 1967-1971). In "Dreams From My Father," Mr. Obama writes about his experience coming to terms with the absence of a strong paternal presence in his life.

Nevertheless, a small faction of Americans known as "birthers" continue to dispute Mr. Obama's American citizenship, despite the fact that the claim has been repeatedly debunked and his birth certificate made publicly available.

When asked if he would bring up the "birther" issue with Mr. Obama in a presidential debate, however, Huckabee expressed doubts.

"The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons," Huckabee said. "And believe me, they had lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."

Was just coming in to post this... Priceless. The truly scary part is just how many will never catch the retraction- or how he "misspoke"- and will continue to parrot this crap.

 

[jon_mx]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

 

[Choke]

Huckabee was confused

Nothing new or unexpected here.

 

[matuski]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

 

[glock]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

Hell- he even went on to explain Obama's world view as being slanted against the west...

Huckabee said childhood stories of the Mau Mau rebellion would lead President Obama to want to remove from the Oval Office the bust of Churchill, who ordered a crackdown against that uprising.

Oopsie.

 

[Choke]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Exactly. He said what he meant, he drew the line between Kenya-Britain. Which has a serious history.As for Indonesia? That would be the Dutch.

It isnt excusable as a "confused". It was hackery. Now not only from Huckabee, but jon_mx as well.

 

[Choke]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

Hell- he even went on to explain Obama's world view as being slanted against the west...

Huckabee said childhood stories of the Mau Mau rebellion would lead President Obama to want to remove from the Oval Office the bust of Churchill, who ordered a crackdown against that uprising.

Oopsie.

Nothing new or unexpected from jon_mx here. :X

 

[jon_mx]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

 

[timschochet]

It's pretty easy to confuse Indonesia and Kenya. It's all a bunch of arabs, anyhow.

 

[Choke]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

You had to go there? Thats your defense? To try and draw a parallel between saying "57 states" and what Huckabee went on about at length. You really have to be tired of getting :curbstomped: all the time.

 

[matuski]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

Lol.. what. Terrible.

 

[jon_mx]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

Lol.. what. Terrible.

Same thing. You get talking, you get confused, and then you further go on to explain your mistaken comment. It was stupid, but it happens. If someone would have corrected either one, they both would have said 'whoops' and went on.

 

[glock]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Exactly. He said what he meant, he drew the line between Kenya-Britain. Which has a serious history.As for Indonesia? That would be the Dutch.

It isnt excusable as a "confused". It was hackery. Now not only from Huckabee, but jon_mx as well.

 

[jon_mx]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

You had to go there? Thats your defense? To try and draw a parallel between saying "57 states" and what Huckabee went on about at length. You really have to be tired of getting :curbstomped: all the time.

It is called an analogy. Like Huckabee, Obama went on 3 or 4 statements explaining his mistaken comment. I am just illustrating the double-standard you guys have. People are human and they make mistakes. I don't see what the big deal is.

 

[glock]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

Same thing.

 

[Choke]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

 

[Road Dogg]

"President Huckabee, do you really want to order an airstrike on Kenya?"

"Eh, Kenya, Indonesia, who cares, just blow up some brown skinned people!"

 

[glock]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

You had to go there? Thats your defense? To try and draw a parallel between saying "57 states" and what Huckabee went on about at length. You really have to be tired of getting :curbstomped: all the time.

It is called an analogy. Like Huckabee, Obama went on 3 or 4 statements explaining his mistaken comment. I am just illustrating the double-standard you guys have. People are human and they make mistakes. I don't see what the big deal is.

Uhm- maybe because if one is reaching so far to throw mud they should double check their facts?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Huckabee was referring to the time Obama spent in Indonesia growing up, which I believe was a couple years. Obviously, Huckabee was confused about Obama's childhood, but so what? Stupid post from some hack.

Edit...Obama went to school from 1st to 4rth grade in Jakarta, Indonesia...

"What I know is troubling enough," Huckabee said of the president. "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."

When a man says he knows something twice.. hard to go back and claim confusion. Ignorance or willful ignorance perhaps.. not confusion.

Kind of like Obama's several sentences explaining how he visited 57 states, going on to explain how he could not justify visiting Alaska and Hawaii.

You had to go there? Thats your defense? To try and draw a parallel between saying "57 states" and what Huckabee went on about at length. You really have to be tired of getting :curbstomped: all the time.

It is called an analogy. Like Huckabee, Obama went on 3 or 4 statements explaining his mistaken comment. I am just illustrating the double-standard you guys have. People are human and they make mistakes. I don't see what the big deal is.

The thread that keeps on giving.

 

[pantagrapher]

Good stuff this morning. Let's hit 30 today.

 

[jon_mx]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

 

[matuski]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

 

[mad sweeney]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

If being hypocritical was the standard for righteousness, you'd be God.

 

[bigbottom]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

Of course it was a mistake. Huckabee's problem was he took that mistake and then built an entire hypothesis on that mistake in an attempt to slander a political opponent.

 

[jon_mx]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

Of course it was a mistake. Huckabee's problem was he took that mistake and then built an entire hypothesis on that mistake in an attempt to slander a political opponent.

I am not defending what he did, I am just explaining what happened. He made a mistake, then went on to build upon that mistake. Certainly he was wrong and looks like a fool, but I don't think it was an evil intent on Huckabee's part. For the most part, Huckabee has tried to make the case that there was nothing there, but mistakenly went down this path. He was confused and made some dumb comments. It happens to the best of them.

 

[bigbottom]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

Of course it was a mistake. Huckabee's problem was he took that mistake and then built an entire hypothesis on that mistake in an attempt to slander a political opponent.

I am not defending what he did, I am just explaining what happened. He made a mistake, then went on to build upon that mistake. Certainly he was wrong and looks like a fool, but I don't think it was an evil intent on Huckabee's part. For the most part, Huckabee has tried to make the case that there was nothing there, but mistakenly went down this path. He was confused and made some dumb comments. It happens to the best of them.

I agree with everything you've written here.

 

[glock]

There isnt a righteous bone in your body jon. Not one.

I am not sure you know what that means. Forgiveness of an obvious mistake is a virtuous characteristic. I don't see how condemning someone for making a mistake, especially from a hack like yourself who makes their share of mistakes, isn't anything but hypocritical. If being hypocritical is your standard for righteousness, I don't want any part of it.

Of course it was a mistake. Huckabee's problem was he took that mistake and then built an entire hypothesis on that mistake in an attempt to slander a political opponent.

I am not defending what he did, I am just explaining what happened. He made a mistake, then went on to build upon that mistake. Certainly he was wrong and looks like a fool, but I don't think it was an evil intent on Huckabee's part. For the most part, Huckabee has tried to make the case that there was nothing there, but mistakenly went down this path. He was confused and made some dumb comments. It happens to the best of them.

Building on the whole pretense that Obama has a built in anti-west bias because of his upbringing- as though he were supporting some solid observations- is what makes it malicious. And even dumber.

 

[jon_mx]

Building on the whole pretense that Obama has a built in anti-west bias because of his upbringing- as though he were supporting some solid observations- is what makes it malicious. And even dumber.

We could argue all day about his intent, and nobody could win the argument. Just a bunch of speculating. I put out a possibility and so did you. Nothing we can resolve, it mostly depends on your view of Huckabee. I am not a Huckabee fan, but I think he tries to be honest. If you think he is a hack, nothing I can say to change that. He is probably a little a both. He thought he was being honest, but he ended up letting his bias take over.

 

[glock]

Building on the whole pretense that Obama has a built in anti-west bias because of his upbringing- as though he were supporting some solid observations- is what makes it malicious. And even dumber.

We could argue all day about his intent, and nobody could win the argument. Just a bunch of speculating. I put out a possibility and so did you. Nothing we can resolve, it mostly depends on your view of Huckabee. I am not a Huckabee fan, but I think he tries to be honest. If you think he is a hack, nothing I can say to change that. He is probably a little a both. He thought he was being honest, but he ended up letting his bias take over.

Say no more. Not quite the same as misstating the number of states.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Building on the whole pretense that Obama has a built in anti-west bias because of his upbringing- as though he were supporting some solid observations- is what makes it malicious. And even dumber.

We could argue all day about his intent, and nobody could win the argument. Just a bunch of speculating. I put out a possibility and so did you. Nothing we can resolve, it mostly depends on your view of Huckabee. I am not a Huckabee fan, but I think he tries to be honest. If you think he is a hack, nothing I can say to change that. He is probably a little a both. He thought he was being honest, but he ended up letting his bias take over.

Say no more. Not quite the same as misstating the number of states.

Misstating? Puh-lease. I think we all know he was referring to the number of member states of the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Get your facts straight.

 

[glock]

Building on the whole pretense that Obama has a built in anti-west bias because of his upbringing- as though he were supporting some solid observations- is what makes it malicious. And even dumber.

We could argue all day about his intent, and nobody could win the argument. Just a bunch of speculating. I put out a possibility and so did you. Nothing we can resolve, it mostly depends on your view of Huckabee. I am not a Huckabee fan, but I think he tries to be honest. If you think he is a hack, nothing I can say to change that. He is probably a little a both. He thought he was being honest, but he ended up letting his bias take over.

Say no more. Not quite the same as misstating the number of states.

Misstating? Puh-lease. I think we all know he was referring to the number of member states of the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Get your facts straight.

:(

 

[pantagrapher]

Obama basically provoked Huckebee into making these comments by not releasing his Long Form Birth Certificate™, so it's really his fault for dragging this situation out.