THE BOOK DRAFT (1 Viewer)

[IvanKaramazov]

I only want to draft books that I've personally read and enjoyed. In several of the categories I have a pretty deep list of books to choose from. Like kupcho, I'm not too terribly worried about people sniping my picks. (Although I should note that Illiad, Huckleberry Finn, and Catch-22 were all on my list).

However, I realized yesterday that I've read very few books that can fairly be characterized as "thrillers," so I better fill this one while I can. Fight Club is a great modern novel by an author who will someday be remembered as the Hemingway of our generation. It's a fairly quick read, but every page drips with energy as Palahniuk shows off his unconventional prose. It's multiple themes and symbolic motifs will give my hypothetical FBG something to think about. And it's a nice "guy book."

I think I filled the Horror and Thriller categories pretty well. I should be on more solid ground for the remainder of the draft.

 

[mon]

Sorry ya'll.

Didn't mean to kill it.

Should have asked who was gonna be around instead of just PMing Woz.

Anyhoo:

2.05 Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut (SciFi)

Simply my favorite book, period.Thought I'd better grab it early.

Nuff said.

Great pick. You will be getting a Vonnegut selection from me eventually. I that man.

 

[kupcho1]

Updated with DC Thunder on the clock1.01 - rikishiboy - The Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov - Series1.02 - DC Thunder - The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - Classic1.03 - Ivankaramazov - The Stand - Stephen King - Horror1.04 - mon - The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck - Classic1.05 - perry147 - The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkein - Science Fiction/Fantasy1.06 - Uncle Humuna - Moby **** - Herman Melville - Classic1.07 - kupcho1 - 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - Nonfiction1.08 - Woz - The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - Edgar Allen Poe - Short Story Collection1.09 - cosjobs - Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry - Drama1.10 - Assani Fisher - 1984 - George Orwell - Classic2.01 - Assani Fisher - Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger - Drama2.02 - cosjobs - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain - Classic2.03 - Woz - Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift - Classic2.04 - kupcho1 - A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole - Drama2.05 - Uncle Humuna - Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut - Science Fiction/Fantasy2.06 - perry147 - The Iliad - Homer - Classic2.07 - mon - Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - Flex2.08 - Ivankaramazov - Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk - Thrillerrikishiboy 1 - ' The Foundation Series - ' Isaac Asimov - ' Series2 - ' - ' - ' 3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' DC Thunder 1 - ' The Great Gatsby - ' F. Scott Fitzgerald - ' Classic2 - ' - ' - ' 3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' Ivankaramazov 1 - ' The Stand - ' Stephen King - ' Horror2 - ' Fight Club - ' Chuck Palahniuk - ' Thriller3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' mon 1 - ' The Grapes of Wrath - ' John Steinbeck - ' Classic2 - ' Catch 22 - ' Joseph Heller - ' Flex3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' perry147 1 - ' The Lord of the Rings - ' J.R.R. Tolkein - ' Science Fiction/Fantasy2 - ' The Iliad - ' Homer - ' Classic3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' Uncle Humuna 1 - ' Moby **** - ' Herman Melville - ' Classic2 - ' Cat's Cradle - ' Kurt Vonnegut - ' Science Fiction/Fantasy3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' kupcho1 1 - ' 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - ' 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - ' Nonfiction2 - ' A Confederacy of Dunces - ' John Kennedy Toole - ' Drama3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' Woz 1 - ' The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - ' Edgar Allen Poe - ' Short Story Collection2 - ' Gulliver's Travels - ' Jonathan Swift - ' Classic3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' cosjobs 1 - ' Lonesome Dove - ' Larry McMurtry - ' Drama2 - ' The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - ' Mark Twain - ' Classic3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - ' Assani Fisher 1 - ' 1984 - ' George Orwell - ' Classic2 - ' Catcher in the Rye - ' J. D. Salinger - ' Drama3 - ' - ' - ' 4 - ' - ' - ' 5 - ' - ' - ' 6 - ' - ' - ' 7 - ' - ' - ' 8 - ' - ' - ' 9 - ' - ' - ' 10 - ' - ' - '

 

[DCThunder]

2.09--The Horatio Hornblower saga--C.S. Forester-SeriesThere are lots of series of novels, just not a lot of good series of novels, so I'll take these.This series of novels: Mr. Midshipman Hornblower (collected short stories) Lieutenant Hornblower Hornblower and the Hotspur Hornblower and the Atropos Hornblower and the Crisis (unfinished novel + short stories) The Happy Return (called Beat to Quarters in America) A Ship of the Line (called simply Ship of the Line in America) Flying Colours (spelled Flying Colors in America) Commodore Hornblower Lord Hornblower Hornblower in the West Indieschronicled the life and career of Mr. Hornblower, an officer and gentleman of the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic Wars. Not just a series of rip-roaring sea tales and battles, these are great portraits of life in the Royal Navy at that time as well as the diplomacy and intrigue that went on during this period. The novels served as a model for later authors such ar Patrick O'Brian and his Aubrey/Maturin stories and were a major influence on British morale during WWII.

 

[kupcho1]

2.09--The Horatio Hornblower saga--E.M. Forester-Series

This series of novels:

Mr. Midshipman Hornblower (collected short stories)

Lieutenant Hornblower

Hornblower and the Hotspur

Hornblower and the Atropos

Hornblower and the Crisis (unfinished novel + short stories)

The Happy Return (called Beat to Quarters in America)

A Ship of the Line (called simply Ship of the Line in America)

Flying Colours (spelled Flying Colors in America)

Commodore Hornblower

Lord Hornblower

Hornblower in the West Indies

chronicled the life and career of Mr. Hornblower, an officer and gentleman of the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic Wars.  Not just a series of rip-roaring sea tales and battles, these are great portraits of life in the Royal Navy at that time as well as the diplomacy and intrigue that went on during this period.  The novels served as a model for later authors such ar Patrick O'Brian and his Aubrey/Maturin stories and were a major influence on British morale during WWII.

E.M. "A Room With a View" Forster sounded a little fishy ...

E.M. Forster should not be confused with C. S. Forester, author of the Horatio Hornblower novels.

(I've marked this as Hornblower series/CS Forester/Series - let me know if this is OK. rikishi on the clock)

 

[DCThunder]

2.09--The Horatio Hornblower saga--E.M. Forester-Series

This series of novels:

Mr. Midshipman Hornblower (collected short stories)

Lieutenant Hornblower

Hornblower and the Hotspur

Hornblower and the Atropos

Hornblower and the Crisis (unfinished novel + short stories)

The Happy Return (called Beat to Quarters in America)

A Ship of the Line (called simply Ship of the Line in America)

Flying Colours (spelled Flying Colors in America)

Commodore Hornblower

Lord Hornblower

Hornblower in the West Indies

chronicled the life and career of Mr. Hornblower, an officer and gentleman of the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic Wars.  Not just a series of rip-roaring sea tales and battles, these are great portraits of life in the Royal Navy at that time as well as the diplomacy and intrigue that went on during this period.  The novels served as a model for later authors such ar Patrick O'Brian and his Aubrey/Maturin stories and were a major influence on British morale during WWII.

E.M. "A Room With a View" Forster sounded a little fishy ...

E.M. Forster should not be confused with C. S. Forester, author of the Horatio Hornblower novels.

Ooops. Fixed.

 

[DCThunder]

Rikishi PM'd me his picks, and I'll put them up and he can add his own comments:2.09--1. Don Quixote- Miguel de Cervantes --classic3.01--Frankenstein--Mary Shelly-- Horror

 

[DCThunder]

3.02--The Count of Monte Cristo--Alexandre Dumas--ThrillerIvan was right, in that there aren't a lot of great thrillers. So I'm going to go with one of the granddaddies of the genre, Dumas' Count of Monte Cristo.A story of revenge, intrigue, love and betrayal this was a page turner of the highest order in 1844 and it still is today.

 

[kupcho1]

Through pick 3.04. perry147 on the clock1.01 - rikishiboy - The Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov - Series1.02 - DC Thunder - The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - Classic1.03 - Ivankaramazov - The Stand - Stephen King - Horror1.04 - mon - The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck - Classic1.05 - perry147 - The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkein - Science Fiction/Fantasy1.06 - Uncle Humuna - Moby **** - Herman Melville - Classic1.07 - kupcho1 - 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - Nonfiction1.08 - Woz - The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - Edgar Allen Poe - Short Story Collection1.09 - cosjobs - Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry - Drama1.10 - Assani Fisher - 1984 - George Orwell - Classic2.01 - Assani Fisher - Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger - Drama2.02 - cosjobs - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain - Classic2.03 - Woz - Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift - Classic2.04 - kupcho1 - A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole - Drama2.05 - Uncle Humuna - Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut - Science Fiction/Fantasy2.06 - perry147 - The Iliad - Homer - Classic2.07 - mon - Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - Flex2.08 - Ivankaramazov - Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk - Thriller2.09 - DC Thunder - Horatio Hornblower Series - C.S. Forester - Series2.10 - rikishiboy - Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes - Classic3.01 - rikishiboy - Frankenstein - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Horror3.02 - DC Thunder - The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas - Thriller3.03 - Ivankaramazov - Brave New World - Aldous Huxley - Science Fiction/Fantasy3.04 - mon - Tales of H. P. Lovecraft - H. P. Lovecraft - Horror3.05 - perry147 - - - rikishiboy 1 - The Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov - Series2 - Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes - Classic3 - Frankenstein - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Horror4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - DC Thunder 1 - The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - Classic2 - Horatio Hornblower Series - C.S. Forester - Series3 - The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas - Thriller4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Ivankaramazov 1 - The Stand - Stephen King - Horror2 - Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk - Thriller3 - Brave New World - Aldous Huxley - Science Fiction/Fantasy4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - mon 1 - The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck - Classic2 - Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - Flex3 - Tales of H. P. Lovecraft - H. P. Lovecraft - Horror4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - perry147 1 - The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkein - Science Fiction/Fantasy2 - The Iliad - Homer - Classic3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Uncle Humuna 1 - Moby **** - Herman Melville - Classic2 - Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut - Science Fiction/Fantasy3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - kupcho1 1 - 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - Nonfiction2 - A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole - Drama3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Woz 1 - The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - Edgar Allen Poe - Short Story Collection2 - Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift - Classic3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - cosjobs 1 - Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry - Drama2 - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain - Classic3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Assani Fisher 1 - 1984 - George Orwell - Classic2 - Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger - Drama3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - -

 

[Uncle Humuna]

Rikishi PM'd me his picks, and I'll put them up and he can add his own comments:

2.09--1. Don Quixote- Miguel de Cervantes --classic

3.01--Frankenstein--Mary Shelly-- Horror

Great picks.Was gonna try and grab Shelley in the next couple of rounds . . .

(I'd throw in a quip about grabbing her in high school a few times, but this is a literary, high-class, edubucated draft )

 

[IvanKaramazov]

3.03 Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (Sci-Fi/Fantasy)

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Rikishi PM'd me his picks, and I'll put them up and he can add his own comments:

2.09--1. Don Quixote- Miguel de Cervantes --classic

3.01--Frankenstein--Mary Shelly-- Horror

Great picks.Was gonna try and grab Shelley in the next couple of rounds . . .

(I'd throw in a quip about grabbing her in high school a few times, but this is a literary, high-class, edubucated draft )

Frankenstein was not dropping to you.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

3.03 Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (Sci-Fi/Fantasy)

Man.These guys are good . . .

 

[kupcho1]

mon on the clock(and I'm really starting to sweat my next pick ... don't you bastages take it!)

 

[mon]

I must pick the master of horror here, before he's taken.

3.4 Tales of H. P. Lovecraft, horror

 

[kupcho1]

perry 145 is upHumuna on deckkupcho1 in the hole

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I've gone back and forth on what I wanted to draft for my Sci-Fi/Fantasy pick. I knew LOTR wouldn't last until round 3, so that was out. Last night, I had Brave New World at the top of my list, then I woke up this morning and decided to go with Frankenstein instead. The reason for the switch was because looking ahead I'm thinking that my library is going to be skewed toward 20th-century works and I want to add some older books for balance. Once rikishiboy made his pick, though, it was back to my original plan . . .

Brave New World sits squarely alongside 1984 as an all-time classice dystopia novel. The infantilized citizens of Huxley's world spend their lives distracted by sex, drugs, and mindless entertainment like obstacle-golf (obvious parallels to today). All this takes place in a world where people are genetically for a disposable life in a pre-ordainted caste. Upon seeing this world, the liberally-educated "native" reacts with despair and disgust at the sub-human depths to which society has fallen.

Huxley weaves together a variety of political traditions in crafting this book, so it appeals to a wide audience. It isn't so polemical that it turns readers off, but it's hard to imagine any reader who doesn't feel at least somewhat uncomfortable at certain aspects of Huxley's imaginary society. I can't really say much more without referencing some other books that haven't been drafted yet, so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

Perry might show up while I'm heading to work.Anyone take a PM?

 

[kupcho1]

Perry might show up while I'm heading to work.

Anyone take a PM?

I would, but since I pick right after you ... maybe Ivan?

 

[DCThunder]

Uncle, you can send it to me, but I'll be in a meeting at 10:30 EST.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

Perry might show up while I'm heading to work.

Anyone take a PM?

I would, but since I pick right after you ... maybe Ivan?

Won't matter, since I go first.My pick won't change.

 

[kupcho1]

Perry might show up while I'm heading to work.

Anyone take a PM?

I would, but since I pick right after you ... maybe Ivan?

Won't matter, since I go first.My pick won't change.

OK, but if you steal the one I want

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I can take a PM, but if you've already sent it to kupcho that's fine too. Either way I'll be around until 12:30 CT or so.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

PM sent to DC.I'll be back before you leave.

 

[DCThunder]

I've got the Uncle's PM and pick.

 

[perry147]

3.05 Atlas Shrugged - Drama

Atlas Shrugged

This is a steal in the third round and if we had added the additional categories I think it would have fit better, but I am making it my drama pick.

 

[kupcho1]

I've got the Uncle's PM and pick.

Humuna's up

 

[cosjobs]

Morning gents. I must say, the second round looks even stronger than the first, thus far. Great job.

 

[DCThunder]

Uncle Humuna (by PM) picks at 3.06 3 "Dune" - Frank Herbert (Sci Fi).He also requests that his Cat's Cradle pick be switched from Sci Fi/Fantasy to his Flex pick.That is all.

 

[perry147]

I've gone back and forth on what I wanted to draft for my Sci-Fi/Fantasy pick. I knew LOTR wouldn't last until round 3, so that was out. Last night, I had Brave New World at the top of my list, then I woke up this morning and decided to go with Frankenstein instead. The reason for the switch was because looking ahead I'm thinking that my library is going to be skewed toward 20th-century works and I want to add some older books for balance. Once rikishiboy made his pick, though, it was back to my original plan . . .

Brave New World sits squarely alongside 1984 as an all-time classice dystopia novel. The infantilized citizens of Huxley's world spend their lives distracted by sex, drugs, and mindless entertainment like obstacle-golf (obvious parallels to today). All this takes place in a world where people are genetically for a disposable life in a pre-ordainted caste. Upon seeing this world, the liberally-educated "native" reacts with despair and disgust at the sub-human depths to which society has fallen.

Huxley weaves together a variety of political traditions in crafting this book, so it appeals to a wide audience. It isn't so polemical that it turns readers off, but it's hard to imagine any reader who doesn't feel at least somewhat uncomfortable at certain aspects of Huxley's imaginary society. I can't really say much more without referencing some other books that haven't been drafted yet, so I'll just leave it at that.

I think I might add Brave New World to my reading list.

 

[kupcho1]

Uncle Humuna (by PM) picks at 3.06 3 "Dune" - Frank Herbert (Sci Fi).

He also requests that his Cat's Cradle pick be switched from Sci Fi/Fantasy to his Flex pick.

That is all.

Humuna switching a pick? Shocking! I'll have my pick shortly. Didn't want to jinx it by writing it up before I was picking.

 

[Uncle Humuna]

Uncle Humuna (by PM) picks at 3.06 3 "Dune" - Frank Herbert (Sci Fi).

He also requests that his Cat's Cradle pick be switched from Sci Fi/Fantasy to his Flex pick.

That is all.

Humuna switching a pick? Shocking! I'll have my pick shortly. Didn't want to jinx it by writing it up before I was picking.

Knew you'd like that move.

 

[kupcho1]

3.07 - Ulysses / James Joyce / 1922 / ClassicI'm absolutely thrilled and somewhat surprised that Ulysses fell this far. The 9th Classic off the board (pending any further category switches by Humuna)? Are you kidding me?Yes, some find Ulysses a difficult read. But if you put in the work you will be richly rewarded. For those of you that aren't familiar with the book:

Ulysses chronicles the passage through Dublin by its main character, Leopold Bloom, during an ordinary day, June 16, 1904. The title alludes to the hero of Homer's Odyssey (Latinized version Ulysses), and there are many parallels, both implicit and explicit, between the two works (e.g. the correlations between Leopold Bloom and Odysseus, Molly Bloom and Penelope, and Stephen Dedalus and Telemachus).Most chapters of Ulysses have an assigned theme, technique and, tellingly, correspondences between its characters and those of the Odyssey.

OK, so it works on several levels. Other books can make the same claim. But there's more. In the "Oxen of the Sun" chapter:

Bloom visits the maternity hospital where Mina Purefoy is giving birth, and finally meets Stephen, who is drinking with Buck Mulligan and his medical student friends. They continue on to a pub to continue drinking, following the successful birth of the baby. This chapter is remarkable for Joyce's wordplay, which seems to recapitulate the entire history of the English language to describe a scene in an obstetrics hospital, from the Carmen Arvaleeshil Holles Eamus. Deshil Holles Eamus. Deshil Holles Eamus. to something resembling alliterative Anglo-Saxon poetry:In ward wary the watcher hearing come that man mildhearted eft rising with swire ywimpled to him her gate wide undid. Lo, levin leaping lightens in eyeblink Ireland's westward welkin. Full she dread that God the Wreaker all mankind would fordo with water for his evil sins. Christ's rood made she on breastbone and him drew that he would rathe infare under her thatch. That man her will wotting worthful went in Horne's house. and on through skilful parodies of Malory, the King James Bible, Bunyan, Pepys, Defoe, Addison and Steele, Sterne, Goldsmith, Junius, Gibbon, Lamb, De Quincey, Landor, Dickens, Newman, Ruskin and Carlyle, among others, before concluding in a haze of nearly incomprehensible slang. Indeed, Joyce organized this chapter as three sections divided into nine total subsections, representing the trimesters and months of gestation.This extremely complicated chapter, structurally, can be further broken down. It consists of 60 paragraphs. The first 10 paragraphs are parodies of Latin and Anglo-Saxon language, the two major predecessors to the English language. These 10 paragraphs can be seen as intercourse and conception. The next 40 paragraphs - representing the 40 weeks of gestation in human embryonic development - begin with Middle English satires, the earliest form of English; they move chronologically forward through the various styles mentioned above. At the end of the 50th paragraph, the baby in the maternity hospital is born, and the final 10 paragaphs are the child, combining all the different forms of slang and street English that was spoken in Dublin in the early part of the century.

Representing the gestation of the English language - while alluding to the signature styles of many other famous writers (e.g., Defoe, Gibbon, Dickens) to make a particular point within the context of the novel - is a staggering accomplishment.

The good-for-nothing characters of Lenehan and Costello are described in the prose style of Daniel Defoe. The subject of Deasy’s letter and cattle health is broached. A long, allegorical joke ensues about papal bulls, Henry VIII, and England’s relationship to Ireland. Buck’s arrival is described in Addison’s and Steele’s essay style. Buck jokes about his new occupation as a “fertiliser” for all female comers. A side conversation between Crotthers and Bannon about Milly, and Bannon’s intent to purchase contraception in Dublin, is described in Lawrence Sterne’s style. The men euphemistically discuss different contraceptive methods.

Yet that's just one example of the many styles Joyce incorporated in writing the novel. There are many others, and each adds a richness to the complete whole that is a marvel of writing.And let's not forget about context. Although Joyce wrote in self-imposed exile, Ulysses is a novel of Ireland.

Joyce’s novel was written during the years of the Irish bid for independence from Britain. After a bloody civil war, the Irish Free State was officially formed—during the same year that Ulysses was published. Even in 1904, Ireland had experienced the failure of several home rule bills that would have granted the island a measure of political independence within Great Britain. The failure of these bills is linked to the downfall of the Irish member of Parliament, Charles Stewart Parnell, who was once referred to as “Ireland’s Uncrowned King,” and was publicly persecuted by the Irish church and people in 1889 for conducting a long-term affair with a married woman, Kitty O’Shea. Joyce saw this persecution as an hypocritical betrayal by the Irish that ruined Ireland’s chances for a peaceful independence. Accordingly, Ulysses depicts the Irish citizens of 1904, especially Stephen Dedalus, as involved in tangled conceptions of their own Irishness, and complex relationships with various authorities and institutions specific to their time and place: the British empire, Irish nationalism, the Roman Catholic church, and the Irish Literary Revival.

If you have not yet read this book, I highly recommend it. It is absolutely worth the effort.

 

[kupcho1]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fictioncosjobs is on the clock

 

[kupcho1]

Update:1.01 - rikishiboy - The Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov - Series1.02 - DC Thunder - The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - Classic1.03 - Ivankaramazov - The Stand - Stephen King - Horror1.04 - mon - The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck - Classic1.05 - perry147 - The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkein - Science Fiction/Fantasy1.06 - Uncle Humuna - Moby **** - Herman Melville - Classic1.07 - kupcho1 - 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - Nonfiction1.08 - Woz - The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - Edgar Allen Poe - Short Story Collection1.09 - cosjobs - Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry - Drama1.10 - Assani Fisher - 1984 - George Orwell - Classic2.01 - Assani Fisher - Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger - Drama2.02 - cosjobs - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain - Classic2.03 - Woz - Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift - Classic2.04 - kupcho1 - A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole - Drama2.05 - Uncle Humuna - Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut - Flex2.06 - perry147 - The Iliad - Homer - Classic2.07 - mon - Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - Flex2.08 - Ivankaramazov - Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk - Thriller2.09 - DC Thunder - Horatio Hornblower Series - C.S. Forester - Series2.10 - rikishiboy - Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes - Classic3.01 - rikishiboy - Frankenstein - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Horror3.02 - DC Thunder - The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas - Thriller3.03 - Ivankaramazov - Brave New World - Aldous Huxley - Science Fiction/Fantasy3.04 - mon - Tales of H. P. Lovecraft - H. P. Lovecraft - Horror3.05 - perry147 - Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand - Drama3.06 - Uncle Humuna - Dune - Frank Herbert - Science Fiction/Fantasy3.07 - kupcho1 - Ulysses - James Joyce - Classic3.08 - Woz - The Prince - Machiavelli - Nonfiction3.09 - cosjobs - - - 3.10 - Assani Fisher - - - rikishiboy 1 - The Foundation Series - Isaac Asimov - Series2 - Don Quixote - Miguel de Cervantes - Classic3 - Frankenstein - Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley - Horror4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - DC Thunder 1 - The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald - Classic2 - Horatio Hornblower Series - C.S. Forester - Series3 - The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas - Thriller4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Ivankaramazov 1 - The Stand - Stephen King - Horror2 - Fight Club - Chuck Palahniuk - Thriller3 - Brave New World - Aldous Huxley - Science Fiction/Fantasy4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - mon 1 - The Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck - Classic2 - Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - Flex3 - Tales of H. P. Lovecraft - H. P. Lovecraft - Horror4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - perry147 1 - The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkein - Science Fiction/Fantasy2 - The Iliad - Homer - Classic3 - Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand - Drama4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Uncle Humuna 1 - Moby **** - Herman Melville - Classic2 - Cat's Cradle - Kurt Vonnegut - Flex3 - Dune - Frank Herbert - Science Fiction/Fantasy4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - kupcho1 1 - 孫子兵法 (The Art of War) - 孫子 (Sun Tzu) - Nonfiction2 - A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole - Drama3 - Ulysses - James Joyce - Classic4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Woz 1 - The Best Tales of Edgar Allen Poe - Edgar Allen Poe - Short Story Collection2 - Gulliver's Travels - Jonathan Swift - Classic3 - The Prince - Machiavelli - Nonfiction4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - cosjobs 1 - Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry - Drama2 - The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn - Mark Twain - Classic3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - - Assani Fisher 1 - 1984 - George Orwell - Classic2 - Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger - Drama3 - - - 4 - - - 5 - - - 6 - - - 7 - - - 8 - - - 9 - - - 10 - - -

 

[perry147]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:

1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fiction

cosjobs is on the clock

Are our catagories still the same? or did we add some?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:

1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fiction

cosjobs is on the clock

Are our catagories still the same? or did we add some?

It's still just the original 10 categories.

 

[perry147]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:

1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fiction

cosjobs is on the clock

Are our catagories still the same? or did we add some?

Who can take a PM for my next pick? I need to get some work done.

 

[kupcho1]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:

1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fiction

cosjobs is on the clock

Are our catagories still the same? or did we add some?

As far as I'm concerned nothing changed:1 classic

1 drama

1 horror

1 mystery

1 non-fiction

1 sci/fi or fantasy

1 thriller

1 collection of short stories

1 series

1 flex

I think there was some Norwoddian banter about pornography and brochures, but I took it in the spirit I with which it was intended.

 

[cosjobs]

Strategic pick here. I am concerned about the shallowness of the Horror category, but think this is a really solid pick ofr it: one of the few worthy Horror picks out there:

The Trial by Franz Kafka.

The link above will direct to a FREE download of this wonderfully chilling and prophetic novel.

 

[perry147]

Woz PM'd me his next pick:

1. The Prince - Machiavelli - non-fiction

cosjobs is on the clock

Are our catagories still the same? or did we add some?

As far as I'm concerned nothing changed:1 classic

1 drama

1 horror

1 mystery

1 non-fiction

1 sci/fi or fantasy

1 thriller

1 collection of short stories

1 series

1 flex

I think there was some Norwoddian banter about pornography and brochures, but I took it in the spirit I with which it was intended.

kupcho1 I sent you my next pick.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Strategic pick here. I am concerned about the shallowness of the Horror category, but think this is a really solid pick ofr it: one of the few worthy Horror picks out there:

The Trial by Franz Kafka.

The link above will direct to a FREE download of this wonderfully chilling and prophetic novel.

I toyed with the idea of taking this with my Thriller pick, but I'm going to end up with a fair amount of overtly religious books on my roster, so I went a different direction in the interest of balance. Good pick.

 

[cosjobs]

How long do we wait on Assani the Draft Killer?

 

[kupcho1]

How long do we wait on Assani the Draft Killer?

I have picks for Woz and perry147. I think someone had picks for Humuna (if need be) and I assume you are ready, so if we skip him this draft takes off in a hurry.I have no problem with skipping people but it hasn't been that long. Also, we did not stipulate any requirements on when people had to be around. We waited on mon (who has since explained he can only draft 8-5 CT) over night.

I really don't care one way or the other. I'd like to see some flow. How about a 2 hour time limit? That would give Assanijwd 'til 2:05pm.

What does the group say? Can we hold off another hour or so?

 

[Uncle Humuna]

How long do we wait on Assani the Draft Killer?

I think someone had picks for Humuna

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Sounds fine with me, but I agree with mon that maybe we should just shut down during non-work hours. I'm more worried by the fact that Assani hasn't even checked in today, which is ominous.

 

[perry147]

How long do we wait on Assani the Draft Killer?

I have picks for Woz and perry147. I think someone had picks for Humuna (if need be) and I assume you are ready, so if we skip him this draft takes off in a hurry.I have no problem with skipping people but it hasn't been that long. Also, we did not stipulate any requirements on when people had to be around. We waited on mon (who has since explained he can only draft 8-5 CT) over night.

I really don't care one way or the other. I'd like to see some flow. How about a 2 hour time limit? That would give Assanijwd 'til 2:05pm.

What does the group say? Can we hold off another hour or so?

I agree lets wait another hour and then if he hasn't shown then we skip.

 

[cosjobs]

How long do we wait on Assani the Draft Killer?

I have picks for Woz and perry147. I think someone had picks for Humuna (if need be) and I assume you are ready, so if we skip him this draft takes off in a hurry.I have no problem with skipping people but it hasn't been that long. Also, we did not stipulate any requirements on when people had to be around. We waited on mon (who has since explained he can only draft 8-5 CT) over night.

I really don't care one way or the other. I'd like to see some flow. How about a 2 hour time limit? That would give Assanijwd 'til 2:05pm.

What does the group say? Can we hold off another hour or so?

I agree lets wait another hour and then if he hasn't shown then we skip.

If you guys want to, I guess its okay with me. But please only this time. I hate these two hour lulls when everyone else is here or has PMed. In the furtue I think half an hour is more than enough for someone who has not checked in, PMed or anything.

 

[mon]

If he hasn't checked in at all today, why are we waiting on him again?

 

[kupcho1]

OK. cosjobs can pick at 2pm EST. We will allow 1/2 hour before skipping a drafter. Note: we should make an exception for rikishiboy since he's in Asia and obviously isn't working the same hours we are. I have no idea where Assani is, so I can't say what his working hours are. Hopefully he can shed some light on that when he makes his next appearance. (I PM'd him that he was on deck some time ago.) He's got a good draft going and it would be a shame to waste it. Fortunately, there's a plethora of good books so even if he's skipped and something he wanted is taken, he can still find something else.Drafters that miss a pick can jump in and make a pick as soon as they are able.Does this cover everything?