The Capitol Police Officer. (1 Viewer)

[parasaurolophus]

Agreed.  Especially if it was an alien.

Just so I am clear are we talking about an alien shooter or an alien being shot? 

 

[Sweet J]

Were they?  Where was Pelosi when he shot?  The media makes it sound like these politicians were all cornered with no way out, but there are numerous underground escape routes.  I am guessing they were actually evacuated by the time of the shooting and in a safe place, but we don't know.  We will never know the facts.  Maybe the Capitol Police should have legal authority to resort to deadly force quicker than most police, but did they?  I was thoroughly unimpressed with how Byrd handled the interview.   I doubt he would get convicted, but I also doubt the facts would point to him deserving a metal.  From the way he approached and took the shot and his complete lack of remorse and not even caring if she was armed, he is not an officer that should be handling guns.  

I really hope I see  you in a thread in the future arguing this passionately the next time an unarmed black man gets shot. If this is what it takes to get conservatives to wake up about State overreach of police power, I'll take it. 

 

[jon_mx]

I really hope I see  you in a thread in the future arguing this passionately the next time an unarmed black man gets shot. If this is what it takes to get conservatives to wake up about State overreach of police power, I'll take it. 

Too late.  Look at the Ahmaud Arbery shooting thread.  I was the most vocal person in here describing his shooting as a lynching and ripping the prosecutors office for covering it up.  

It is kind of funny since you started the thread and I was the first person to post an opinion about it. 

 

[Summer Wheat]

Words have meaning. The BLM riots were not insurrections. 

I agree, the BLM riots were just your basic riot where police were killed, and regular people died and lost their business`s.  But I would not call them insurrections.  Only thing close is when they attacked the Portland Courthouse and tried to burn it down.

 

[Sweet J]

Too late.  Look at the Ahmaud Arbery shooting thread.  I was the most vocal person in here describing his shooting as a lynching and ripping the prosecutors office for covering it up.  

It is kind of funny since you started the thread and I was the first person to post an opinion about it. 

Absolutely fair. It's been awhile since I posted here. I can't remember a lot of the conversations.

 

[parasaurolophus]

I agree, the BLM riots were just your basic riot where police were killed, and regular people died and lost their business`s.  But I would not call them insurrections.  Only thing close is when they attacked the Portland Courthouse and tried to burn it down.

They did actually take over an area and declare it an autonomous zone that had its own security force. 

Does that not count? 

 

[jon_mx]

They did actually take over an area and declare it an autonomous zone that had its own security force. 

Does that not count? 

No, that just disrupted and ruined the lives of normal people.  They did not cause any inconvenience to our Congress people, you know the important people.  

 

[Rubiobot]

No, that just disrupted and ruined the lives of normal people.  They did not cause any inconvenience to our Congress people, you know the important people.  

Inconveniences? 

 

[The General]

No, that just disrupted and ruined the lives of normal people.  They did not cause any inconvenience to our Congress people, you know the important people.  

Better luck next time on your riots in the Capitol on the day we select our highest elected and most powerful position!

 

[dozer]

It’s good to know that the message is out there…

If you storm the Capitol, you might get shot.

 

[dozer]

Prepare to feel sick to your stomach…

Donald Trump releases a statement on the literal fake news channel OANN, exploiting  the death of a victim of his own lies.

This unscrupulous man is fundraising, (and making millions) off of her death and the perpetuated lies about a baseless claim that the election was stolen.

 

[squistion]

Prepare to feel sick to your stomach…

Donald Trump releases a statement on the literal fake news channel OANN, exploiting  the death of a victim of his own lies.

This unscrupulous man is fundraising, (and making millions) off of her death and the perpetuated lies about a baseless claim that the election was stolen.

:(   The man is completely shameless...but i guess we already knew that.

 

[Roger Sterling]

:(   The man is completely shameless...but i guess we already knew that.

In the '80s.

 

[jon_mx]

Prepare to feel sick to your stomach…

Donald Trump releases a statement on the literal fake news channel OANN, exploiting  the death of a victim of his own lies.

This unscrupulous man is fundraising, (and making millions) off of her death and the perpetuated lies about a baseless claim that the election was stolen.

Asking for a fair and non-partisan investigation into her death MAKES YOU SICK?   Trump statement had nothing to do with fundraising.  It had nothing to do with a stolen election.   It was asking for what the family desires.  And that makes you sick?  Your lies and slant makes Trump look like a straight shooter.  The left has become what they profess to hate. 

 

[Zow]

Asking for a fair and non-partisan investigation into her death MAKES YOU SICK?   Trump statement had nothing to do with fundraising.  It had nothing to do with a stolen election.   It was asking for what the family desires.  And that makes you sick?  Your lies and slant makes Trump look like a straight shooter.  The left has become what they profess to hate. 

I guess I can't speak directly for the Capitol police as I don't know their exact policies and procedures, but every other law enforcement agency I'm aware of has a policy for a neutral review of an officer shoot. I have to assume, especially considering the publicity of this incident, that the Capitol police has a similar policy and procedure and that such occurred. If so, then Trump's statements are disinegenuous as they imply such a procedure didn't happen and/or was corrupt. Put differently, his claim here is akin to the "America's audit" nonsense. 

 

[jon_mx]

I guess I can't speak directly for the Capitol police as I don't know their exact policies and procedures, but every other law enforcement agency I'm aware of has a policy for a neutral review of an officer shoot. I have to assume, especially considering the publicity of this incident, that the Capitol police has a similar policy and procedure and that such occurred. If so, then Trump's statements are disinegenuous as they imply such a procedure didn't happen and/or was corrupt. Put differently, his claim here is akin to the "America's audit" nonsense. 

This is not every other police agency. It is a federal police force who oversea an area which has near zero criminal activity until this.  The Capitol Police did their own review.  The Justice Department looked at it also.   But my view of the Justice Department is they are completely political from the top just looking at some of the recent AG' (Barr, Sessions, Holder, and now Garland).  Their conclusion was there is not enough evidence to press criminal charges.   This is one of the few cases where Trump did not go off the rails. 

 

[Zow]

This is not every other police agency. It is a federal police force who oversea an area which has near zero criminal activity until this.  The Capitol Police did their own review.  The Justice Department looked at it also.   But my view of the Justice Department is they are completely political from the top just looking at some of the recent AG' (Barr, Sessions, Holder, and now Garland).  Their conclusion was there is not enough evidence to press criminal charges.   This is one of the few cases where Trump did not go off the rails. 

So two government bodies reviewed the shooting? Yeah that's more than the majority of police shootings across the country. 

But, yes, let's get even more reviews until we get the answer that makes us happy. 

ETA: I've been invited on these review panels before as a member of the defense bar. While I have not thoroughly looked at the Babbitt shooting nor researched the specifically applicable federal statutes, my initial review is that her shooting was not a criminal act either. 

 

[jon_mx]

So two government bodies reviewed the shooting? Yeah that's more than the majority of police shootings across the country. 

But, yes, let's get even more reviews until we get the answer that makes us happy. 

ETA: I've been invited on these review panels before as a member of the defense bar. While I have not thoroughly looked at the Babbitt shooting nor researched the specifically applicable federal statutes, my initial review is that her shooting was not a criminal act either. 

There were no panels.  There were no disclosures of fact. We only knew the officer who did the killing because he came forward.  The typical standard for using deadly force was not met.  There is probably not enough for a criminal conviction, but they guy should be fired, IMHO.  

 

[Zow]

There were no panels.  There were no disclosures of fact. We only knew the officer who did the killing because he came forward.  The typical standard for using deadly force was not met.  There is probably not enough for a criminal conviction, but they guy should be fired, IMHO.  

I would not lose any sleep if he was fired. 

 

[The General]

Lindsey Graham on Jan 6th: "What are you doing? Take back the Senate! You've got guns. Use them"

 

[Amused to Death]

Lindsey


Graham


on Jan 6th: "What are you doing? Take back the Senate! You've got guns. Use them"

So odd that Graham, a Trump-supporting Republican, would want the Capitol Police to use their guns on peaceful school teachers and nurses.

Curiouser and curiouser.