The Conservative Black Movement (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

You want me to go find one (if they’re still there) just to get someone suspended? I don’t report people. 

They typically do it without a quote. Tough guys.

You guys want to talk conservative blacks or no?

My advice then is don't, out of the blue, bring it up and make accusations you won't back up.  Leads me and others to believe it didn't actually happen when you have been asked to back things up and keep refusing.

And that was a serious accusation.  Ive read a lot of posts here and have not seen anything close to what you claimed.

 

[Football Jones]

My advice then is don't, out of the blue, bring it up and make accusations you won't back up.  Leads me and others to believe it didn't actually happen when you have been asked to back things up and keep refusing.

And that was a serious accusation.  Ive read a lot of posts here and have not seen anything close to what you claimed.

You haven’t been looking (of course you haven’t).

I’ll decide what accusations I make, not you. If I decide to make one, you can bet it’ll be accurate.

 

[Football Jones]

My advice then is don't, out of the blue, bring it up and make accusations you won't back up.  Leads me and others to believe it didn't actually happen when you have been asked to back things up and keep refusing.

And that was a serious accusation.  Ive read a lot of posts here and have not seen anything close to what you claimed.

Seen anything close now?

 

[sho nuff]

From this thread...

Now, this is mild & doesn’t DIRECTLY accuse me (I don’t guess), but it’s a snapshot.

And please, I don’t want anyone suspended.

That was not about being called racist for holding conservative views...and you know it.

 

[Football Jones]

That was not about being called racist for holding conservative views...and you know it.

Oh, I could find more (& much worse).

You’re the second person I’ve “Sherlocked” (because you THINK you know what’s up).

I’m done engaging you.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Yeah, I'd love to see more of those posts where people are supposedly calling conservatives racist for holding their views.  

 

[sho nuff]

Sherlocked? Umm yeah...your schtick is pretty tired.   

 

[djmich]

Yeah, I'd love to see more of those posts where people are supposedly calling conservatives racist for holding their views.  

This close enough?

This question is open to all, not just to jon_mx.  It seems to me that there are really only two possibilities:

1) There are some environmental forces that are responsible for the stagnant economic conditions of black Americans; or

2) Black Americans are inferior to other races, at least with respect to certain attributes.

Is there an option I'm missing?  If you don't agree with either of these two possibilities, can you tell me a possibility that makes sense?

 

[tonydead]

My advice then is don't, out of the blue, bring it up and make accusations you won't back up.  Leads me and others to believe it didn't actually happen when you have been asked to back things up and keep refusing.

And that was a serious accusation.  Ive read a lot of posts here and have not seen anything close to what you claimed.

Sherriff Sho offering posting advise. 

Sholocked 

 

[Football Jones]

Yeah, I'd love to see more of those posts where people are supposedly calling conservatives racist for holding their views.  

Stubborn, are ya?

 

[sho nuff]

This close enough?

That is accusing people of being racist?  Especially, as the claim was, just for having conservative values?

 

[KarmaPolice]

This close enough?

I have asked a similar question.   

So you are saying that is calling conservatives racists for holding conservative views?

 

[KarmaPolice]

That is accusing people of being racist?  Especially, as the claim was, just for having conservative values?

correct, and he asked for other alternatives - was there some provided? 

 

[Football Jones]

Sherriff Sho offering posting advise. 

Sholocked 

Yep.

I don’t ignore anyone, but he earned the right to be Sherlocked.

Maybe we can get back to discussion at some point...

 

[djmich]

correct, and he asked for other alternatives - was there some provided? 

Well, in fact I did.

 

[Football Jones]

Hopefully, last time I’ll have to address it, but you guys are blind. Been called racist d-bag, etc., several times (not quoted, but next post). And quite a few similar to what I posted here. I don’t report it because I don’t report stuff & other people don’t report their buddies.

And LOL at trying to figure out if being called racist was because of your views. Haha.

Give me a break. Hopefully, we can get this back on track...

 

[KarmaPolice]

Well, in fact I did.

So what's the issue?

 

[djmich]

So what's the issue?

The issue is that in response to a conservative poster the response is two options...  1). You agree with me.  2). You’re a racist

you just don’t get it, don’t care

 

[Football Jones]

The issue is that in response to a conservative poster the response is two options...  1). You agree with me.  2). You’re a racist

you just don’t get it, don’t care

It’s amazing they can’t see it.

There’s some lib posters who don’t go there, but many do.

 

[KarmaPolice]

The issue is that in response to a conservative poster the response is two options...  1). You agree with me.  2). You’re a racist

you just don’t get it, don’t care

plus an option to provide more context which you did.. 

Still don't see that as calling the other poster a racist.   That is a strong accusation.  Like I said, I have asked similar questions and never once have I thought a poster on here was racist.  I guess that means you would say I am part of the problem.   When I am asking I am interested to see how people are explaining stats like that.   Your point is heard and taken though.  

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

The issue is that in response to a conservative poster the response is two options...  1). You agree with me.  2). You’re a racist

you just don’t get it, don’t care

Sorry I thought we were having a good discussion over there I didn’t know you thought I was calling you racist.

 

[djmich]

Sorry I thought we were having a good discussion over there I didn’t know you thought I was calling you racist.

No, no.  The post I quoted wasn’t even directed to me.  However, when I read it thats how I interpreted the binary framing.

Our exchange was good.

Honestly, just something to be aware of, particularly if u do truly want to foster an environment with dissenting opinion.  I know not always easy, one of the internets flaws.

Thats it from me...we’re good

 

[sho nuff]

Except it wasn’t a agree with me or you are racist in the options.  Not at all

 

[KarmaPolice]

I will ask a question that has a similar concept but doesn't involve race.   

The US has 4.4% of the world population, but we have about 23% of the prison population worldwide.   How do you reconcile those 2 stats?  

 

[Workhorse]

Quinnipiac poll by race just came out — Among Black voters: Biden: 82% Trump: 9%

 

[Workhorse]

Great article on 538 today talking about the GOP's missed opportunities over the years to court black voters and continually doubling down on varying levels of racial politics to secure an overwhelmingly white base voter group.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-choice/

 

[roadkill1292]

Great article on 538 today talking about the GOP's missed opportunities over the years to court black voters and continually doubling down on varying levels of racial politics to secure an overwhelmingly white base voter group.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-republican-choice/

The GOP had lost another two generations of Black voters. Their best bet now for propping up a numerically declining base is to pursue Hispanics, who are already the second biggest minority group in the nation. They may be mean crazy nutjobs in a lot of ways but Texan Republicans do a really good job of attracting Hispanic voters so it's possible to do.