The Dark Knight Rises Villains Announced (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm thinking the implication is that Robin John Blake will be more of a Nightwing type character.From IMDB

At the end of the movie when Blake (played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt) is exploring the Batcave, his black jacket has a blue stripe that dips in the middle on the back of it. This is very reminiscent to the character Nightwing, who the first Robin eventually became.

 

[shadyridr]

awesome movie! you guys are nuts. i loved it. bane was great! sure there were some plot holes and it obviously wasnt as good as the second one. but i liked it better than the first and better than avengers. its too bad if they dont make another one

 

[shadyridr]

one thing nolan doesnt know how to do is voices. between batmans growl and banes robotic sean connery i dont know which was worse

 

[Insein]

one thing nolan doesnt know how to do is voices. between batmans growl and banes robotic sean connery i dont know which was worse

Agreed. That was my biggest knock from TDK and Rises. Otherwise good movies.

 

[The Captain]

awesome movie! you guys are nuts. i loved it. bane was great! sure there were some plot holes and it obviously wasnt as good as the second one. but i liked it better than the first and better than avengers. its too bad if they dont make another one

Agree wholeheartedly.I'm a huge Dark Knight fan and I walked out last night having enjoyed this movie, as a whole, more than TDK. I liked Ledger's Joker more than Bane, but liked this movie more. It's possible my opinion is biased due to the anticipation and excitement of seeing this last night, so I'll need to let it sink in before passing final judgement. However, when watching TDK I find myself waiting for the joker to come on screen and caring less about the actual movie. I looked forward to the Bane scenes in this flick, and enjoyed the character a lot, but I really enjoyed the rest of the story more in this film.To me this was the darkest of the three films and I love that. I haven't read comic books since I was a child, so I don't care about what Nolan got right or wrong. I want to see a super hero movie that doesn't feel like a super hero movie. Nolan does this for me. I loved that Bane is a cold blooded, methodical killer...and then he sheds a tear in the name of love. That's cool, powerful stuff.Sure there are plot holes, but I went to the movie hoping to be taken on a ride and I was not disappointed. Great flick.

 

[Fensalk]

awesome movie! you guys are nuts. i loved it. bane was great! sure there were some plot holes and it obviously wasnt as good as the second one. but i liked it better than the first and better than avengers. its too bad if they dont make another one

Agree wholeheartedly.I'm a huge Dark Knight fan and I walked out last night having enjoyed this movie, as a whole, more than TDK. I liked Ledger's Joker more than Bane, but liked this movie more. It's possible my opinion is biased due to the anticipation and excitement of seeing this last night, so I'll need to let it sink in before passing final judgement. However, when watching TDK I find myself waiting for the joker to come on screen and caring less about the actual movie. I looked forward to the Bane scenes in this flick, and enjoyed the character a lot, but I really enjoyed the rest of the story more in this film.To me this was the darkest of the three films and I love that. I haven't read comic books since I was a child, so I don't care about what Nolan got right or wrong. I want to see a super hero movie that doesn't feel like a super hero movie. Nolan does this for me. I loved that Bane is a cold blooded, methodical killer...and then he sheds a tear in the name of love. That's cool, powerful stuff.Sure there are plot holes, but I went to the movie hoping to be taken on a ride and I was not disappointed. Great flick.

Its alright. People go to films for different reasons.You could argue that, if you viewed this film from the perspective of Bane being a fallen hero, it works better. He faced terrible tragedy in his life, and fell to darkness and rage for the sake of his love. In that way, the obstacles were worthy of Bane's quest, and in fact those obstacles defeated him and corrupted him.This reduces Batman to a supporting character, but ever since the first film he's been that in some ways.

 

[fsufan]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

 

[shadyridr]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

 

[fsufan]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

 

[Borat]

I'm glad they didn't go any further with Robin. The character of Robin has always sucked. No need for Nolan to explore it.

 

[shadyridr]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

a robin suit

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

When Gordon was in the hospital, did he ask blake to find batman, bruce wayne, or neither and blake just went to wayne manor because he somehow "knew" wayne was batman?

 

[shadyridr]

When Gordon was in the hospital, did he ask blake to find batman, bruce wayne, or neither and blake just went to wayne manor because he somehow "knew" wayne was batman?

the last one. gordon didnt know until the end. blake learned it a long time ago when wayne visited him in the home

 

[Insein]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

When Gordon was in the hospital, did he ask blake to find batman, bruce wayne, or neither and blake just went to wayne manor because he somehow "knew" wayne was batman?

the last one. gordon didnt know until the end. blake learned it a long time ago when wayne visited him in the home

Right, but did Gordon say he needed batman or did blake take it upon himself?The more i think about it, the more i liked the movie. There are some plot holes and pacing issues but i like the story, acting, and action.

 

[shadyridr]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

His name was Robin Blake. Not **** Grayson. In the comics the super hero name is Robin. Here its a first name. Here the batcave and suit are discovered. He isnt a sidekick. The bat signal is repaired to be used. Who will respond? Robin Blake will, as Batman. Batman is a symbol, not a man. Thats why the flaming bat signal and batman coming back rallied gotham.

 

[Premier]

Batman is a symbol, not a man.

When has anybody other than Bruce Wayne been Batman?

 

[Fensalk]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

His name was Robin Blake. Not **** Grayson. In the comics the super hero name is Robin. Here its a first name. Here the batcave and suit are discovered. He isnt a sidekick. The bat signal is repaired to be used. Who will respond? Robin Blake will, as Batman. Batman is a symbol, not a man. Thats why the flaming bat signal and batman coming back rallied gotham.

Robin Blake is an orphan. Maybe his real father is named Grayson and named him ****.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Batman is a symbol, not a man.

When has anybody other than Bruce Wayne been Batman?

I think there are comics/storylines where somebody else wears the suit. Im not familiar with them. Im talking about Batman as a symbol being a theme of the trilogy. They say as much in Begins and Batman's whole code is about setting a standard really. For gotham it doesnt matter who wears the suit.

 

[Insein]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

His name was Robin Blake. Not **** Grayson. In the comics the super hero name is Robin. Here its a first name. Here the batcave and suit are discovered. He isnt a sidekick. The bat signal is repaired to be used. Who will respond? Robin Blake will, as Batman. Batman is a symbol, not a man. Thats why the flaming bat signal and batman coming back rallied gotham.

Exactly. I'm not up on the comics but I'm pretty certain there's no character named Robin Blake in the Batman universe aside from this movie. So its just his name and doesn't mean that he would become "Robin" the superhero. Everything that is setup at the end implies he's just going to pick up where Bruce left off.

 

[Mario Kart]

The main purpose for the name Robin Blake with Robin being the untold name until the end is simple. Had the name leaked out with a Robin in there people would have been raising crap about "Robin" being in this movie and how much this movie is going to suck because Robin is in it.

Nolan had to "introduce" a "new" character so the anal fans would not ruin anything prior to the movie coming out. It worked well.

Ultimately, using the name Robin is more of an homage than anything else. We all know Robin is with Batman in the comics and a story is difficult to have without a Robin. However, Bruce Wayne's story is over with this trilogy. Someone else has to take up the symbol of Batman. Dent was thought to be him and now Blake is going to be Batman. No big deal.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Batman is a symbol, not a man.

When has anybody other than Bruce Wayne been Batman?

Knightfall storyline. When Bane breaks the bat.

 

[Hawks64]

Batman is a symbol, not a man.

When has anybody other than Bruce Wayne been Batman?

Knightfall storyline. When Bane breaks the bat.

Also in Batman RIP/Final Crisis.

 

[fsufan]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

there is only 1 batman and that is Bruce Wayne. if anyone pick this series up with Blake taking over as batman it would be a failure

 

[fsufan]

Batman is a symbol, not a man.

When has anybody other than Bruce Wayne been Batman?

and the city thinks batman is dead. they put up a statue of him

 

[shadyridr]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

His name was Robin Blake. Not **** Grayson. In the comics the super hero name is Robin. Here its a first name. Here the batcave and suit are discovered. He isnt a sidekick. The bat signal is repaired to be used. Who will respond? Robin Blake will, as Batman. Batman is a symbol, not a man. Thats why the flaming bat signal and batman coming back rallied gotham.

you realize christopher nolan changed up some things from the comic? im sqying how do you know that was nolan's intent?

 

[shadyridr]

i guess in my mind blake was gonna train to be a superhero and would call himself robin. that was my interpretation. your guys interpretation was hed be batman. nobody knows for sure. thats my point.

 

[shadyridr]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

lol how do you know anything of this

His name was Robin Blake. Not **** Grayson. In the comics the super hero name is Robin. Here its a first name. Here the batcave and suit are discovered. He isnt a sidekick. The bat signal is repaired to be used. Who will respond? Robin Blake will, as Batman. Batman is a symbol, not a man. Thats why the flaming bat signal and batman coming back rallied gotham.

if they made his name **** grayson it wouldve been obvious from the beginning

 

[Insein]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.

there is only 1 batman and that is Bruce Wayne. if anyone pick this series up with Blake taking over as batman it would be a failure

They're not going to. It was just meant for the audience to know that Gotham is still being protected. No further story is needed. They have their silent guardian even though Bruce Wayne has "died."

 

[Insein]

i guess in my mind blake was gonna train to be a superhero and would call himself robin. that was my interpretation. your guys interpretation was hed be batman. nobody knows for sure. thats my point.

Whether he's Robin or Batman is irrelevant. He's there to take up the mantle for Bruce now that he has retired/died. The name Robin is, like someone said, paying homage to the history. He may build an entirely different suit or he may just use whats there (since Blake's not a multi-billionaire with endless resources to make new stuff right away). The point is that he's taking over as the guardian, the new Batman.

 

[cstu]

i guess in my mind blake was gonna train to be a superhero and would call himself robin. that was my interpretation. your guys interpretation was hed be batman. nobody knows for sure. thats my point.

Whether he's Robin or Batman is irrelevant. He's there to take up the mantle for Bruce now that he has retired/died. The name Robin is, like someone said, paying homage to the history. He may build an entirely different suit or he may just use whats there (since Blake's not a multi-billionaire with endless resources to make new stuff right away). The point is that he's taking over as the guardian, the new Batman.

 

[badmojo1006]

one thing nolan doesnt know how to do is voices. between batmans growl and banes robotic sean connery i dont know which was worse

I thought the same thing about Bane. And there were pacing issues that lagged in the middle, but overall thought it was goodDid like Anne Hathaway's costume (esp when she was riding the bike and stuck her rear in the air). Also, Marion Cotillard has a nice rack.And I did a random "Aha" moment. I kept thinking I knew Dagget's assistant, finally had to look at IMDB when I got home. It was Owen from Torchwood

 

[Chase Stuart]

The more I think about it, the more I think that Blake actually was Robin, and there's nothing more to see.

Who was Catwoman? Technically, no one in this movie. They never call Selina Kyle Catwoman, because the idea of Catwoman is kind of silly in Nolan's world. Ditto Robin.

But who is Robin? He's Batman's sidekick, there to help out Batman when he's in trouble. He's a goody-goody character without much depth and that's exactly what Blake was in this movie. Nolan's vision of the Joker wasn't the over the top Cesar Romero or Jack Nicholson, but a darker Heath Ledger. Well, maybe Nolan's vision of Robin isn't a gay ward in red tights, but a whole milk police officer who will help out Batman when he's in a pinch? That's Nolan's Robin.



At least, maybe.

 

[Fensalk]

The more I think about it, the more I think that Blake actually was Robin, and there's nothing more to see.Who was Catwoman? Technically, no one in this movie. They never call Selina Kyle Catwoman, because the idea of Catwoman is kind of silly in Nolan's world. Ditto Robin.But who is Robin? He's Batman's sidekick, there to help out Batman when he's in trouble. He's a goody-goody character without much depth and that's exactly what Blake was in this movie. Nolan's vision of the Joker wasn't the over the top Cesar Romero or Jack Nicholson, but a darker Heath Ledger. Well, maybe Nolan's vision of Robin isn't a gay ward in red tights, but a whole milk police officer who will help out Batman when he's in a pinch? That's Nolan's Robin.At least, maybe.

Except for the fanciful way Robin swung into the Batcave at the very end. Weeeeee. And being mentored to wear a mask by Batman. His evolution into Robin hasn't completed yet. uncheshandwithfist:

 

[Lehigh98]

But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.

hated this part of the movie.

loved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the credits

what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real name

You guys are really dorking this up. He'll be the next Batman. He's just a cop, he doesn't have billions of dollars or the sewing skills to make a Robin outfit. He's got a bunch of Batman suits and equipment. The made it pretty clear Batman is a symbol so why create some other new goofy superhero?... doesn't fit with Nolan's world. And I'm pretty sure Nolan said this was the finale to his trilogy so JGL wasn't set to be in another movie fighting the Riddler... he's just a device to show the real main character, Bruce Wayne, can now get the rest he deserves and relax know that he passed the torch to another protector of Gotham. As far as how Bruce Wayne has any money left, you don't think a (at least former) multi-billionare with his resources has some money stashed away in secret locations?

 

[Dexter]

I don't know a lot of super heroes who use their first name as cover.

 

[saintfool]

The more I think about it, the more I think that Blake actually was Robin, and there's nothing more to see.

Who was Catwoman? Technically, no one in this movie. They never call Selina Kyle Catwoman, because the idea of Catwoman is kind of silly in Nolan's world. Ditto Robin.

But who is Robin? He's Batman's sidekick, there to help out Batman when he's in trouble. He's a goody-goody character without much depth and that's exactly what Blake was in this movie. Nolan's vision of the Joker wasn't the over the top Cesar Romero or Jack Nicholson, but a darker Heath Ledger. Well, maybe Nolan's vision of Robin isn't a gay ward in red tights, but a whole milk police officer who will help out Batman when he's in a pinch? That's Nolan's Robin.



At least, maybe.

romero was not over-the-top. that's just how he rolled...

 

[Worm]

Liked the movie but just did NOT like the Bane voice. Just couldn't see it and it was a distraction to me the whole movie.

 

[Daywalker]

Not sure if this is a honda but this Tom Waits interview, from 1979, has Heath Ledger's Joker written all over it.

My link

 

[jurb26]

Liked the movie but just did NOT like the Bane voice. Just couldn't see it and it was a distraction to me the whole movie.

I loved this movie as well. At 1st when I heard the Bane voice I was thinking, WTF? As the movie went on I got used to it and at times found it amusing, given the lines. I was let down that we didn't get to see Bane's face more than anything.As for the Robin/next Batman debate. I thought it was pretty clear that Black would assume the role of Batman as Wayne retired. I also assumed that Eayne would continue to silently fund whoever the future Batman's where in order to continue the legacy. No, I'm under no assumptions that Wayne lost all his money.Maybe I'm assuming too much but I think that is what the end of the movie intends you to do.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

At 1st when I heard the Bane voice I was thinking, WTF? As the movie went on I got used to it and at times found it amusing, given the lines. I was let down that we didn't get to see Bane's face more than anything.

We did.

No, I'm under no assumptions that Wayne lost all his money.Maybe I'm assuming too much but I think that is what the end of the movie intends you to do.

I agree with you here. They even said earlier in the movie that the money stuff could be figured out in the future. A terrorist attack obviously shifted all of the numbers. That would be sorted out eventually.

 

[jurb26]

At 1st when I heard the Bane voice I was thinking, WTF? As the movie went on I got used to it and at times found it amusing, given the lines. I was let down that we didn't get to see Bane's face more than anything.

We did.

No, I'm under no assumptions that Wayne lost all his money.Maybe I'm assuming too much but I think that is what the end of the movie intends you to do.

I agree with you here. They even said earlier in the movie that the money stuff could be figured out in the future. A terrorist attack obviously shifted all of the numbers. That would be sorted out eventually.

We only saw his face prior to him needeing the mask. We never saw it post-surgery or whatever you want to cal what they did to him in that prison.

 

[Mario Kart]

Saw it again and the biggest problem with this movie is the sound. The volume not only drowned out Bane more than a couple of times, it drowned out Talia near the end as well as Batman. The sound guy should never be hired in Hollywood again. Terrible.

 

[cstu]

Liked the movie but just did NOT like the Bane voice. Just couldn't see it and it was a distraction to me the whole movie.

If you're going to have a guy on screen wearing a mask over his mouth so that you can't see him talking he needs to be voiced by James Earl Jones.

 

[LHUCKS]

Saw it again and the biggest problem with this movie is the sound. The volume not only drowned out Bane more than a couple of times, it drowned out Talia near the end as well as Batman. The sound guy should never be hired in Hollywood again. Terrible.

I thought the same thing, but thought it might have had something to do with the IMAX I was at...like their surround sound was screwed up.Sound was way off.

 

[Sweet Love]

one thing nolan doesnt know how to do is voices. between batmans growl and banes robotic sean connery i dont know which was worse

Agreed. That was my biggest knock from TDK and Rises. Otherwise good movies.

Funny you guys say that...my wife and I always said Bale "speaks in growl"...a couple of times I asked her to "Paaasss me the saaaltah" at dinner....that did not last too long.

 

[Worm]

Saw it again and the biggest problem with this movie is the sound. The volume not only drowned out Bane more than a couple of times, it drowned out Talia near the end as well as Batman. The sound guy should never be hired in Hollywood again. Terrible.

Huh... I thought maybe this was just a problem in my theater. Totally agree, multiple characters were drowned out at different times.

 

[Bonzai]

Not sure if this is a honda but this Tom Waits interview, from 1979, has Heath Ledger's Joker written all over it.

My link

That is crazy.

 

[Brony]

My biggest knock on this movie was that I had to hold a massive whizz in my bladder for the last 45 minutes of the movie. Other than that, it was a good movie.