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The movie was really cool, but yeah, Bane's voice is lame.
That's really cool. Unfortunately, that voice does not match that bad-### villain.Tom Hardy based his voice for Bane on Bartley Gorman (1944 - 2002), an Irish Traveller who was the undefeated Bare-knuckle boxing champion of the United Kingdom and Ireland, often referred to as the, "King of the Gypsies." He told The Hollywood Reporter, "The choice of the accent is actually a man called Bartley Gorman, who was a bare knuckle fighter. A Romani gypsy. Which I wanted to underpin the Latin, but a Romani Latin opposed to Latino. His particular accent is very specific, which was a gypsy accent. So that's why it was difficult to understand. But once you tune into it, you get it. I hope."
Asking this again because I never got the impression that the prison was in some South American country. Always thought it was in Gotham, no? If not, when did he first leave Gotham to get to SA?I think it's safe to say that some time passed between him being in the South American country and getting to Gotham. The movie was already 3 hours long...is it really THAT important for you to be given details about his trip back? Really?He needed to be injured in the first place to show the damage that fighting crime had done to his body. It was pretty important, in my opinion, to show that he's not some immortal bada@# that never gets injured, despite the hell he puts his body through.He was in some south american country and then suddenly is strolling down the street and happens to run into catwoman. I'm not saying I wanted to see all the details of how he got there, just that it was far fetched based on what we knew about Gotham at that point. And yes, I saw the knee thing. I'm questioning why he needed to be injured in the first place for the story.Seriously, guys? You want to watch 5-10min of Bruce Wayne buying airplane tickets and flying back to Gotham? And you missed the part where he used that crazy knee-brace to fix his disability (hence, no cane)?Talk about nit-picking...This and the rushed love story were two of my main issues. And why was Wayne using a cane, and then all of a sudden a bad ### again?The prison is obviously supposed to act as a metaphor for the well he falls in as a child to discover the Batcave, so the logistics of it as an actual prison are going to leave a lot to be desired. I was bothered less by the escape from the prison than by Wayne's unexplained time getting back to the United States and back into Gotham.Or, I don't know, maybe have a bunch of people climb up there and have them get on each others shoulders?That hole in the ground prison was dumb when you think about it. Ok, they can run a rope almost near the top for safety reasons. So why not climb up to the point of the jump, and once you are there, haul the ENTIRE safety rope up to that ledge, add some weight, jury rig a makeshift anchor, and then toss it from that ledge to the top of the hole. Then climb out easily?![]()
If your idea of improvement would be to replace the scenes showing the toll it was taking on his body with 15 minutes of going through baggage checks and airport security, I'm glad you weren't involved![]()
Im not sure it was South America, but The Pit Prison was 100% not in the united states, let alone gotham.Asking this again because I never got the impression that the prison was in some South American country. Always thought it was in Gotham, no? If not, when did he first leave Gotham to get to SA?I think it's safe to say that some time passed between him being in the South American country and getting to Gotham. The movie was already 3 hours long...is it really THAT important for you to be given details about his trip back? Really?He needed to be injured in the first place to show the damage that fighting crime had done to his body. It was pretty important, in my opinion, to show that he's not some immortal bada@# that never gets injured, despite the hell he puts his body through.He was in some south american country and then suddenly is strolling down the street and happens to run into catwoman. I'm not saying I wanted to see all the details of how he got there, just that it was far fetched based on what we knew about Gotham at that point. And yes, I saw the knee thing. I'm questioning why he needed to be injured in the first place for the story.Seriously, guys? You want to watch 5-10min of Bruce Wayne buying airplane tickets and flying back to Gotham? And you missed the part where he used that crazy knee-brace to fix his disability (hence, no cane)?Talk about nit-picking...This and the rushed love story were two of my main issues. And why was Wayne using a cane, and then all of a sudden a bad ### again?The prison is obviously supposed to act as a metaphor for the well he falls in as a child to discover the Batcave, so the logistics of it as an actual prison are going to leave a lot to be desired. I was bothered less by the escape from the prison than by Wayne's unexplained time getting back to the United States and back into Gotham.Or, I don't know, maybe have a bunch of people climb up there and have them get on each others shoulders?That hole in the ground prison was dumb when you think about it. Ok, they can run a rope almost near the top for safety reasons. So why not climb up to the point of the jump, and once you are there, haul the ENTIRE safety rope up to that ledge, add some weight, jury rig a makeshift anchor, and then toss it from that ledge to the top of the hole. Then climb out easily?![]()
If your idea of improvement would be to replace the scenes showing the toll it was taking on his body with 15 minutes of going through baggage checks and airport security, I'm glad you weren't involved![]()
In the comic books, Bane was from South America. I suppose the prison was there as well. I don't think it was said exactly where the prison was tho.Asking this again because I never got the impression that the prison was in some South American country. Always thought it was in Gotham, no? If not, when did he first leave Gotham to get to SA?I think it's safe to say that some time passed between him being in the South American country and getting to Gotham. The movie was already 3 hours long...is it really THAT important for you to be given details about his trip back? Really?He needed to be injured in the first place to show the damage that fighting crime had done to his body. It was pretty important, in my opinion, to show that he's not some immortal bada@# that never gets injured, despite the hell he puts his body through.He was in some south american country and then suddenly is strolling down the street and happens to run into catwoman. I'm not saying I wanted to see all the details of how he got there, just that it was far fetched based on what we knew about Gotham at that point. And yes, I saw the knee thing. I'm questioning why he needed to be injured in the first place for the story.Seriously, guys? You want to watch 5-10min of Bruce Wayne buying airplane tickets and flying back to Gotham? And you missed the part where he used that crazy knee-brace to fix his disability (hence, no cane)?Talk about nit-picking...This and the rushed love story were two of my main issues. And why was Wayne using a cane, and then all of a sudden a bad ### again?The prison is obviously supposed to act as a metaphor for the well he falls in as a child to discover the Batcave, so the logistics of it as an actual prison are going to leave a lot to be desired. I was bothered less by the escape from the prison than by Wayne's unexplained time getting back to the United States and back into Gotham.Or, I don't know, maybe have a bunch of people climb up there and have them get on each others shoulders?That hole in the ground prison was dumb when you think about it. Ok, they can run a rope almost near the top for safety reasons. So why not climb up to the point of the jump, and once you are there, haul the ENTIRE safety rope up to that ledge, add some weight, jury rig a makeshift anchor, and then toss it from that ledge to the top of the hole. Then climb out easily?![]()
If your idea of improvement would be to replace the scenes showing the toll it was taking on his body with 15 minutes of going through baggage checks and airport security, I'm glad you weren't involved![]()
Latino leprechaun?That's a first.Tom Hardy based his voice for Bane on Bartley Gorman (1944 - 2002), an Irish Traveller who was the undefeated Bare-knuckle boxing champion of the United Kingdom and Ireland, often referred to as the, "King of the Gypsies." He told The Hollywood Reporter, "The choice of the accent is actually a man called Bartley Gorman, who was a bare knuckle fighter. A Romani gypsy. Which I wanted to underpin the Latin, but a Romani Latin opposed to Latino. His particular accent is very specific, which was a gypsy accent. So that's why it was difficult to understand. But once you tune into it, you get it. I hope."
I think the prison was located "in an ancient part of the world" with no other description. Not sure who Chase is referring to as when he asks how he gets to the prison. Bruce Wayne is taken to the prison by Bane. Bane is taken to the prison initially probably because he is the worst of the bad in an ancient sort of way.In the comic books, Bane was from South America. I suppose the prison was there as well. I don't think it was said exactly where the prison was tho.Asking this again because I never got the impression that the prison was in some South American country. Always thought it was in Gotham, no? If not, when did he first leave Gotham to get to SA?I think it's safe to say that some time passed between him being in the South American country and getting to Gotham. The movie was already 3 hours long...is it really THAT important for you to be given details about his trip back? Really?He needed to be injured in the first place to show the damage that fighting crime had done to his body. It was pretty important, in my opinion, to show that he's not some immortal bada@# that never gets injured, despite the hell he puts his body through.He was in some south american country and then suddenly is strolling down the street and happens to run into catwoman. I'm not saying I wanted to see all the details of how he got there, just that it was far fetched based on what we knew about Gotham at that point. And yes, I saw the knee thing. I'm questioning why he needed to be injured in the first place for the story.Seriously, guys? You want to watch 5-10min of Bruce Wayne buying airplane tickets and flying back to Gotham? And you missed the part where he used that crazy knee-brace to fix his disability (hence, no cane)?Talk about nit-picking...This and the rushed love story were two of my main issues. And why was Wayne using a cane, and then all of a sudden a bad ### again?The prison is obviously supposed to act as a metaphor for the well he falls in as a child to discover the Batcave, so the logistics of it as an actual prison are going to leave a lot to be desired. I was bothered less by the escape from the prison than by Wayne's unexplained time getting back to the United States and back into Gotham.Or, I don't know, maybe have a bunch of people climb up there and have them get on each others shoulders?That hole in the ground prison was dumb when you think about it. Ok, they can run a rope almost near the top for safety reasons. So why not climb up to the point of the jump, and once you are there, haul the ENTIRE safety rope up to that ledge, add some weight, jury rig a makeshift anchor, and then toss it from that ledge to the top of the hole. Then climb out easily?![]()
If your idea of improvement would be to replace the scenes showing the toll it was taking on his body with 15 minutes of going through baggage checks and airport security, I'm glad you weren't involved![]()
The Pit Prison where Bruce Wayne is imprisoned after his initial encounter with Bane is stated to have originally been a place where plague victims were sent to avoid contaminating the population. In ancient times, such places were known as Lazarettes, referring to the famous Biblical leper Lazarus, whom Jesus raised from the dead. This is a literalization of the Lazarus Pit, which in the original Batman comics is where Ra's Al Ghul bathes to keep his also literal immortality. Thus, when characters escape the Pit Prison in the film, they are said to have "risen."
Isn't every place in the world equally ancient?I think the prison was located "in an ancient part of the world" with no other description. Not sure who Chase is referring to as when he asks how he gets to the prison. Bruce Wayne is taken to the prison by Bane. Bane is taken to the prison initially probably because he is the worst of the bad in an ancient sort of way.In the comic books, Bane was from South America. I suppose the prison was there as well. I don't think it was said exactly where the prison was tho.Asking this again because I never got the impression that the prison was in some South American country. Always thought it was in Gotham, no? If not, when did he first leave Gotham to get to SA?I think it's safe to say that some time passed between him being in the South American country and getting to Gotham. The movie was already 3 hours long...is it really THAT important for you to be given details about his trip back? Really?He needed to be injured in the first place to show the damage that fighting crime had done to his body. It was pretty important, in my opinion, to show that he's not some immortal bada@# that never gets injured, despite the hell he puts his body through.He was in some south american country and then suddenly is strolling down the street and happens to run into catwoman. I'm not saying I wanted to see all the details of how he got there, just that it was far fetched based on what we knew about Gotham at that point. And yes, I saw the knee thing. I'm questioning why he needed to be injured in the first place for the story.Seriously, guys? You want to watch 5-10min of Bruce Wayne buying airplane tickets and flying back to Gotham? And you missed the part where he used that crazy knee-brace to fix his disability (hence, no cane)?Talk about nit-picking...This and the rushed love story were two of my main issues. And why was Wayne using a cane, and then all of a sudden a bad ### again?The prison is obviously supposed to act as a metaphor for the well he falls in as a child to discover the Batcave, so the logistics of it as an actual prison are going to leave a lot to be desired. I was bothered less by the escape from the prison than by Wayne's unexplained time getting back to the United States and back into Gotham.Or, I don't know, maybe have a bunch of people climb up there and have them get on each others shoulders?That hole in the ground prison was dumb when you think about it. Ok, they can run a rope almost near the top for safety reasons. So why not climb up to the point of the jump, and once you are there, haul the ENTIRE safety rope up to that ledge, add some weight, jury rig a makeshift anchor, and then toss it from that ledge to the top of the hole. Then climb out easily?![]()
If your idea of improvement would be to replace the scenes showing the toll it was taking on his body with 15 minutes of going through baggage checks and airport security, I'm glad you weren't involved![]()
Hawaii is relatively new.Isn't every place in the world equally ancient?
I had to look this guy up -Tom Hardy based his voice for Bane on Bartley Gorman (1944 - 2002), an Irish Traveller who was the undefeated Bare-knuckle boxing champion of the United Kingdom and Ireland, often referred to as the, "King of the Gypsies." He told The Hollywood Reporter, "The choice of the accent is actually a man called Bartley Gorman, who was a bare knuckle fighter. A Romani gypsy. Which I wanted to underpin the Latin, but a Romani Latin opposed to Latino. His particular accent is very specific, which was a gypsy accent. So that's why it was difficult to understand. But once you tune into it, you get it. I hope."
I keep seeing this complaint, and I find it ironic considering my biggest complaint in the entire trilogy is Batman's voice.The movie was really cool, but yeah, Bane's voice is lame.
I don't know a lot of super heroes who use their first name as cover.
I thought the hushed tone from BB was well done. He sounded mysterious. In TDK when he's trying to have a meaningful conversation with the joker or Dent, he's out of breath and still trying to maintain the growling voice. It was distracting.Funny you guys say that...my wife and I always said Bale "speaks in growl"...a couple of times I asked her to "Paaasss me the saaaltah" at dinner....that did not last too long.Agreed. That was my biggest knock from TDK and Rises. Otherwise good movies.one thing nolan doesnt know how to do is voices. between batmans growl and banes robotic sean connery i dont know which was worse![]()
Sound was VERY loud at the IMAX I was at, seemed like people could easily get tinnitus it was so dang loud.I thought the same thing, but thought it might have had something to do with the IMAX I was at...like their surround sound was screwed up.Sound was way off.Saw it again and the biggest problem with this movie is the sound. The volume not only drowned out Bane more than a couple of times, it drowned out Talia near the end as well as Batman. The sound guy should never be hired in Hollywood again. Terrible.
I'm in the minority that thought Bane's accent was cool. Made him unique. The last thing the movie needed was another character who growled.'matuski said:I keep seeing this complaint, and I find it ironic considering my biggest complaint in the entire trilogy is Batman's voice.'jdoggydogg said:The movie was really cool, but yeah, Bane's voice is lame.![]()
http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Lazarus_PitArabia it seems (at least in the comics).I guess I totally missed it, I assume the Pit Prison was just underground in Gotham. I don't recall Bane "taking" him there. They met in the sewers underneath Gotham, they fought, Bane broke his back, and then I thought he locked him up. Don't remember him ever leaving Gotham, although yes when they did flashbacks the Pit certainly seemed to be in the middle east or south america or somewhere like that.![]()
Technically, he never used the name Robin, so no-one would even make the connection in all likelihood.'cstu said:I don't know a lot of super heroes who use their first name as cover.![]()
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I guess I totally missed it, I assume the Pit Prison was just underground in Gotham. I don't recall Bane "taking" him there. They met in the sewers underneath Gotham, they fought, Bane broke his back, and then I thought he locked him up. Don't remember him ever leaving Gotham, although yes when they did flashbacks the Pit certainly seemed to be in the middle east or south america or somewhere like that.![]()
It's been a week since I saw the movie now, but no, I don't remember thinking that. I certainly didn't think that there was an implied international flight with a kidnapped masked crusader. If that was the point, Nolan should have made that more obvious.I guess I totally missed it, I assume the Pit Prison was just underground in Gotham. I don't recall Bane "taking" him there. They met in the sewers underneath Gotham, they fought, Bane broke his back, and then I thought he locked him up. Don't remember him ever leaving Gotham, although yes when they did flashbacks the Pit certainly seemed to be in the middle east or south america or somewhere like that.![]()
Did you not see the landscape around the pit when batman escaped? It was definitely nothing remotely similar to Gotham. Seemed pretty obvious it was implied that Bane kidnapped him and flew him out to the prison to remotely watch Gotham be destroyed.
Batman's hiss was a huge mistake. I find it very distracting.As for Bane,'matuski said:I keep seeing this complaint, and I find it ironic considering my biggest complaint in the entire trilogy is Batman's voice.'jdoggydogg said:The movie was really cool, but yeah, Bane's voice is lame.![]()
I liked the voice, but I don't think it was at all the right voice for that character.I'm in the minority that thought Bane's accent was cool. Made him unique. The last thing the movie needed was another character who growled.'matuski said:I keep seeing this complaint, and I find it ironic considering my biggest complaint in the entire trilogy is Batman's voice.'jdoggydogg said:The movie was really cool, but yeah, Bane's voice is lame.![]()
Again with this? Do they really need to spend another 5 minutes in an alrady 3 hour long movie to explain how Batman was transported there? Who cares? Does it really advance the storyline in any way?I guess for the one person on earth who saw that desert landscape and ancient prison and assumed it was the Gotham cityscape and sewer, maybe so. For the other 99% of us, no, it's not necessary.Do you guys need to be told what Batman had for breakfast every morning too? The movie never shows whether he eats bacon and eggs or Cherrios. OUTRAGE!It's been a week since I saw the movie now, but no, I don't remember thinking that. I certainly didn't think that there was an implied international flight with a kidnapped masked crusader. If that was the point, Nolan should have made that more obvious.I guess I totally missed it, I assume the Pit Prison was just underground in Gotham. I don't recall Bane "taking" him there. They met in the sewers underneath Gotham, they fought, Bane broke his back, and then I thought he locked him up. Don't remember him ever leaving Gotham, although yes when they did flashbacks the Pit certainly seemed to be in the middle east or south america or somewhere like that.![]()
Did you not see the landscape around the pit when batman escaped? It was definitely nothing remotely similar to Gotham. Seemed pretty obvious it was implied that Bane kidnapped him and flew him out to the prison to remotely watch Gotham be destroyed.
I'm pretty sure it was just under an old fountain in (Gotham) Central Park. Surprised a hot dog or balloon vendor didn't hear all those guys chanting "RISE!" in a foreign language. Maybe he just thought they were cabbies offering "RIDES!".I can't believe anybody could watch that movie and think that pit is in Gotham.
So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?Again with this? Do they really need to spend another 5 minutes in an alrady 3 hour long movie to explain how Batman was transported there? Who cares? Does it really advance the storyline in any way?I guess for the one person on earth who saw that desert landscape and ancient prison and assumed it was the Gotham cityscape and sewer, maybe so. For the other 99% of us, no, it's not necessary.Do you guys need to be told what Batman had for breakfast every morning too? The movie never shows whether he eats bacon and eggs or Cherrios. OUTRAGE!It's been a week since I saw the movie now, but no, I don't remember thinking that. I certainly didn't think that there was an implied international flight with a kidnapped masked crusader. If that was the point, Nolan should have made that more obvious.I guess I totally missed it, I assume the Pit Prison was just underground in Gotham. I don't recall Bane "taking" him there. They met in the sewers underneath Gotham, they fought, Bane broke his back, and then I thought he locked him up. Don't remember him ever leaving Gotham, although yes when they did flashbacks the Pit certainly seemed to be in the middle east or south america or somewhere like that.![]()
Did you not see the landscape around the pit when batman escaped? It was definitely nothing remotely similar to Gotham. Seemed pretty obvious it was implied that Bane kidnapped him and flew him out to the prison to remotely watch Gotham be destroyed.
He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?
I did notice that. I assumed he snuck into the city just like how the special forces dudes got in as well.He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?
He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?
They showed Batman going to and leaving China in the last movie.He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?In a movie which contains several considerable plot holes this is a weird thing to focus on.
It was a part of the story and considering how he did that it shouldn't be a question as to how he got back to Gotham.They showed Batman going to and leaving China in the last movie.He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?In a movie which contains several considerable plot holes this is a weird thing to focus on.
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Its not realistic to completely isolate a city for 3 months. The soviets walled in berlin and failed. But its a comic book movie. Whatever.
It wasn't completely isolated. One bridge was left open for supplies to come in.Its not realistic to completely isolate a city for 3 months. The soviets walled in berlin and failed. But its a comic book movie. Whatever.
I thought it was more of a nod to Blake's character being the sidekick....rather than any real attempt to link Blake to the actual character.Blake is not **** Grayson. He was not going to become "Robin." Robin was his first name according to his ID. Blake was going to become the next Batman. The suit and everything were still there. The Robin mention could have been completely left out and changed nothing. The only reason it is there is to cause another Nolan ending of "what if." MAkes it nice and open for fanfiction anyway.what suit? he needs to be Robin first then nightwing. beside Robin was his superhero name. **** grayson was his real nameloved it. just wish we saw a glimpse of the suit before breaking to the creditshated this part of the movie.But why make Blake into Robin if Nolan is out on the series. Made no sense to me.
Which got me thinking - who pulled up the rope, and why wouldn't he just use that to pull himself up in the first place instead of tying it around his waist and jumping from rock to rock like a jackass?He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?
Guys name was Robin John Blake. I think they'll figure it out.Technically, he never used the name Robin, so no-one would even make the connection in all likelihood.I don't know a lot of super heroes who use their first name as cover.![]()
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There was a rope at the top was my understanding. He didn't have a rope to climb out.Which got me thinking - who pulled up the rope, and why wouldn't he just use that to pull himself up in the first place instead of tying it around his waist and jumping from rock to rock like a jackass?He's freaking Batman, dude.Also, anyone notice that he kicks the rope back down into the pit once he climbs out so that others can follow?So Batman is in an underground pit in Saudia Arabia, breaks away, and then how exactly does he get to Gotham? No one is allowed in or out of Gotham, so I think that's a legitimate question. And Fox and all of his resources are tied up with Bane, no?