The Daryl Richardson Thread (2 Viewers)

[Awful Waffle]

Uh, Packers?

 

[Otis]

just a feeling but I think SJAX is getting traded

Why?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Is there any precedent for a veteran RB like SJax or DWill being traded to a team right before the deadline? I'm trying to think of any, sure others will have the answer.

 

[RBM]

Uh, Packers?

They don't run enough to make a move like that.

 

[SameSongNDance]

SI's Peter King suggested on Football Night in America Sunday that Steven Jackson and Dwayne Bowe are the two likeliest players in the league to be traded ahead of Tuesday's deadline.

King reported that the phones are currently "dead" around the league, but that can change quickly in a deadline league. Per King, the Rams would be unwilling to trade Jackson for anything less than a third-round pick. King said the same for the Chiefs and Bowe. Expect trade buzz to pick up by Monday night.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

SI's Peter King suggested on Football Night in America Sunday that Steven Jackson and Dwayne Bowe are the two likeliest players in the league to be traded ahead of Tuesday's deadline.

King reported that the phones are currently "dead" around the league, but that can change quickly in a deadline league. Per King, the Rams would be unwilling to trade Jackson for anything less than a third-round pick. King said the same for the Chiefs and Bowe. Expect trade buzz to pick up by Monday night.

3rd rounder for Bowe? I would send a 2nd for him if I was a GM, guy has terrific talent IMO, just needs a solid QB.

 

[Otis]

Lord would I kill for Sjax to be traded and D-Rich to take the job over.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

IMO Richardson role doesn't change at all with an SJAX trade. I see Pead taking over Jackson's role in the existing RBBC. I just don't see Richardson being the load carrier in this offense.

 

[EBF]

IMO Richardson role doesn't change at all with an SJAX trade. I see Pead taking over Jackson's role in the existing RBBC. I just don't see Richardson being the load carrier in this offense.

Why would the coaches suddenly play Pead ahead of Richardson when they've clearly favored Daryl at every opportunity? I really don't get how people who aren't scorned Pead owners think this is going to happen. Richardson beat out Pead for the change of pace role in the preseason and has been playing ahead of him ever since. I understand that people don't think Richardson will ever be the lead back. He is not the biggest guy and it's hard to say whether he's the long term answer or not yet. However, I certainly don't think Pead will be the one to keep him on the pine. It's not like Pead is some kind of bruising power back. Pead is 197 pounds. Richardson is 192 pounds. They both profile as "lightning" committee backs, but Richardson is the better of the two, and that's why he's the one getting meaningful playing time. I think St. Louis will let Jackson walk and add a complement to Richardson/Pead in the draft or free agency. In a worst case scenario for their stock that could mean someone like Dwyer or Mendenhall. In a best case scenario they'll be competing against a late round rookie or a journeyman FA.

 

[RBM]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

 

[cstu]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

You don't think SJax would be enough of an improvement to what the Packers have in exchange for a 7th?

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

You don't think SJax would be enough of an improvement to what the Packers have in exchange for a 7th?

Rams wouldn't trade him for a 7th. SJ's pass pro is valuable in the development of Bradford. Also, Jackson is a great leader and that is impotant for a growing team.

 

[EBF]

5th rounder would be a realistic price for both sides IMO.

The problem is that Jackson might be looking for some kind of contract extension and I'm not sure anyone would want to pay it.

Green Bay is already on the hook with Benson, although I doubt they're paying him much above the minimum.

 

[cstu]

5th rounder would be a realistic price for both sides IMO. The problem is that Jackson might be looking for some kind of contract extension and I'm not sure anyone would want to pay it. Green Bay is already on the hook with Benson, although I doubt they're paying him much above the minimum.

I agree with the price, maybe even a 4th. Traded or not, he'll be looking for a team to sign with next year. I think his best bet is to go to a team that needs a RB right now and make himself indispensable ala McGahee.

 

[SameSongNDance]

The list of teams in which he would be an upgrade over their current situation is rather long IMO.

 

[RBM]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

You don't think SJax would be enough of an improvement to what the Packers have in exchange for a 7th?

Read the King blurb....Rams won't take less than a 3rd.

 

[biggamer3]

would be funny if Steven Jax was traded for Deangelo

 

[Max Power]

The list of teams in which he would be an upgrade over their current situation is rather long IMO.

I'm not seeing more than 2-3 team who would realistically make that trade this year. I think Cinci should be on the phone for him.

 

[SameSongNDance]

The list of teams in which he would be an upgrade over their current situation is rather long IMO.

I'm not seeing more than 2-3 team who would realistically make that trade this year. I think Cinci should be on the phone for him.

I agree, I was just pointing out how much of an asset he could be for a majority of teams. I don't necessarily think they'd all be gunning for him, it depends on the situation (playoff possibilities, cap space and etc.)

 

[cstu]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

You don't think SJax would be enough of an improvement to what the Packers have in exchange for a 7th?

Read the King blurb....Rams won't take less than a 3rd.

I know that's the official line but is 8 games of SJax on a losing team worth more than a 4th? It's not a very valuable pick but it's ammunition they can use to move up and get someone they want.

 

[Sabertooth]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

Packers?

 

[need2know]

the way they used sjax yesterday screams trade to me. i am just wondering where. could be a team that is totally off the radar...

 

[RBM]

Just can't think of a team that needs a rb bad enough to send St Louis a pick

Packers?

I guess on the surface, but they don't like trading picks and they really don't run the ball.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I don't get the controversy.

As has been mentioned here many times, the record for 3rd and after round draft picks is not very good (yes, a few exceptions) vs the idea of using a 3rd on someone who is a guaranteed running, receiving, blocking, team guy like Jackson - seems like an easy call to me.

So, so many teams could use this player to great effect.

 

[cstu]

I don't get the controversy.As has been mentioned here many times, the record for 3rd and after round draft picks is not very good (yes, a few exceptions) vs the idea of using a 3rd on someone who is a guaranteed running, receiving, blocking, team guy like Jackson - seems like an easy call to me.So, so many teams could use this player to great effect.

Only a potential playoff team is going to be interested in trading for him and not many need a RB. The Packers could definitely use him but they've had good success with their 3rd round picks (Finley and James Jones) and they traded their 3rd and 5th this year to get Casey Hayward.

 

[Faust]

Late-round gem Richardson stands out in St. Louis

By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst

For 10 more rookies who are exceeding expectations in their first NFL seasons, click here.

There were 253 players selected in the 2012 NFL Draft and the 252nd player drafted, running back Daryl Richardson, has been one of the positive surprises halfway through the NFL season.

Last April's draft marked a new beginning for the St. Louis Rams.

With a plethora of draft picks, first-year head coach Jeff Fisher and the front office came away with several building blocks for the future, including a lockdown cornerback (Janoris Jenkins), a wideout averaging 25.6 yards per catch (Chris Givens), even a stud kicker (Greg Zuerlein) with a studly nickname, Greg the Leg.

But it's Richardson, the next-to-last player drafted who continues to stand out. So how did Richardson, the 21st running back taken in April, fall to the bottom of the seventh round?

"I can tell you there were more than a few groans around here when the Rams drafted him," one NFC personnel executive said. "Daryl was on our short list of potential free agents that we targeted and we had him on speed dial, but it wasn't meant to be."

Which prompted the next question: if you liked him so much, why didn't you draft him?

"I wish we would have," he responded.

At 5-10 and 192 pounds, Richardson didn't impress NFL teams with his size or minimal strength, creating doubt that he would be able to hold up at the next level – one of the reasons why he was drafted so late on draft weekend. And while workload is still a concern moving forward, Richardson's production has been steady through the first half of the season.

Eight weeks into the 2012 NFL season, four rookie running backs rank among the top 25 rushers in the league. Sixth-round pick Alfred Morris (173rd overall, Redskins) is third in the league in rushing and flourishing in Mike Shanahan's offense.

First-round picks Trent Richardson (third overall, Browns) and Doug Martin (31st overall, Buccaneers) quickly earned starting jobs and look like future Pro Bowlers.

Richardson is that fourth running back with 335 rushing yards on just 62 carries, averaging 5.4 yards per rush. He is one of only three NFL running backs with at least 50 rush attempts averaging 5.4 yards per carry or better. How good is Richardson's company right now? Frank Gore and C.J. Spiller the other two at or above the 5.4-yard average.

Richardson has only half as many carries as St. Louis starting running back Steven Jackson, but the rookie is just 68 yards behind the three-time Pro Bowler for the team lead in rushing yards.

Richardson also ranks fourth on the team in receiving: 14 catches for 99 yards. Only Trent Richardson and Martin have more receptions among rookie running backs.

The irony of Daryl Richardson's early success is that he is filling the role that many thought rookie Isaiah Pead would have for the Rams. St. Louis selected the running back out of Cincinnati in the second round and as an explosive, change-of-pace weapon, some believe Pead to be the heir apparent to Jackson. Pead was drafted 50th overall and 202 picks before Daryl Richardson. He was the Rams' fourth draft pick and the fourth overall running back selected. But through eight games, he ranks just fourth on the team in rushing with only four rush attempts.

Richardson surpassed Pead on the depth chart during the preseason and hasn't looked back, continuing to put pressure on the coaching staff to get him on the field. Perhaps the most flattering indication of Richardson's success are the rumors that St. Louis could attempt to trade Jackson, although Fisher and the Rams have denied that they are shopping the nine-year veteran.

Richardson, who was given a sixth- to seventh-round draft grade by NFLDraftScout.com, is an explosive athlete with the speed and acceleration to create with the ball in his hands. Although a sketchy background and lack of size gave NFL teams a cause for concern.

"He tested well and was productive in college," said a different NFC scout. "But I think his 190-pound frame and lack of body strength scared people away."

Richardson also battled numerous injuries in college, including a knee issue in 2010.

A native of Jacksonville, Fla., and the younger sibling of Cincinnati Bengals backup running back Bernard Scott, Daryl Richardson took a similar path to the NFL. Struggling with academics and other issues out of high school, Richardson enrolled at Cisco Junior College (Texas) before transferring to Division II Abilene Christian, replacing Scott as the Wildcats' starting running back. He finished his three-year career at ACU with 2,303 rushing yards and 38 total touchdowns.

Although he has yet to find the end zone yet as a professional, Richardson is showing promising ability with more rushing yards than other high-profile rookie runners David Wilson, LaMichael James and Lamar Miller combined.

 

[cstu]

(Rotoworld)Coach Jeff Fisher will look for ways to get the ball in Isaiah Pead's hands after the rookie flashed playmaking ability in three garbage-time carries versus the Patriots.Analysis: "We drafted Isaiah because of those run skills and he's got them," Fisher said. "But again, it's hard to get everybody the carries, but we'll try to keep him involved." Pead finally showed confidence and decisiveness after running with hesitation and uncertainty in preseason action. While it's the first positive sign for Pead's Dynasty value since early August, those in redraft leagues can continue to ignore the Rams' third-string back.

 

[steelwind]

(Rotoworld)Coach Jeff Fisher will look for ways to get the ball in Isaiah Pead's hands after the rookie flashed playmaking ability in three garbage-time carries versus the Patriots.Analysis: "We drafted Isaiah because of those run skills and he's got them," Fisher said. "But again, it's hard to get everybody the carries, but we'll try to keep him involved." Pead finally showed confidence and decisiveness after running with hesitation and uncertainty in preseason action. While it's the first positive sign for Pead's Dynasty value since early August, those in redraft leagues can continue to ignore the Rams' third-string back.

LOL a 3 headed RBBC Sjax, Richardson and now Pead. So glad I unloaded Sjax.

 

[cstu]

Garbage time, but Pead was 3 for 32 yards. Richardson looked good running outside, but Pead looked better on inside runs:

2-3-STL 27 (13:33) 26-D.Richardson left guard to STL 28 for 1 yard (71-B.Deaderick).

1-10-STL 28 (4:25) 24-I.Pead left guard to STL 33 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo).

1-10-NE 23 (2:00) 24-I.Pead up the middle to NE 15 for 8 yards (53-J.Tarpinian).

Richardson has a fumble and only 3 yards on 4 catches.

Meaningless stats in garbage time against a team up by a million points on cruise control. That applies for both of them, btw.

Straight from the horse's mouth:

Rams | Isaiah Pead might see more game reps (KFFL) St. Louis Rams RB Isaiah Pead showed well late in the Week 8 game against the New England Patriots, and head coach Jeff Fisher indicated he might have earned more playing time. "We are going to try to get him some touches. It makes sense. You are playing in an NFL game; you are playing against NFL players and for him to flash like that regardless of the situation in the game was pretty impressive," Fisher said.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

SJAX owners beware. They might not have traded him but he might start to get phased out and it could happen right around fantasy playoff time.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

A native of Jacksonville, Fla., and the younger sibling of Cincinnati Bengals backup running back Bernard Scott, Daryl Richardson took a similar path to the NFL. Struggling with academics and other issues out of high school, Richardson enrolled at Cisco Junior College (Texas) before transferring to Division II Abilene Christian, replacing Scott as the Wildcats' starting running back. He finished his three-year career at ACU with 2,303 rushing yards and 38 total touchdowns.

Interesting nice post faust

 

[SameSongNDance]

SJAX owners beware. They might not have traded him but he might start to get phased out and it could happen right around fantasy playoff time.

It already happened. The fact the STL wants to get Pead involved is just the finishing blow. Poor SJax, he could've done something this year. He still somehow looks spry as a mofo.

 

[EBF]

Garbage time, but Pead was 3 for 32 yards. Richardson looked good running outside, but Pead looked better on inside runs:

2-3-STL 27 (13:33) 26-D.Richardson left guard to STL 28 for 1 yard (71-B.Deaderick).

1-10-STL 28 (4:25) 24-I.Pead left guard to STL 33 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo).

1-10-NE 23 (2:00) 24-I.Pead up the middle to NE 15 for 8 yards (53-J.Tarpinian).

Richardson has a fumble and only 3 yards on 4 catches.

Meaningless stats in garbage time against a team up by a million points on cruise control. That applies for both of them, btw.

Straight from the horse's mouth:

Rams | Isaiah Pead might see more game reps (KFFL) St. Louis Rams RB Isaiah Pead showed well late in the Week 8 game against the New England Patriots, and head coach Jeff Fisher indicated he might have earned more playing time. "We are going to try to get him some touches. It makes sense. You are playing in an NFL game; you are playing against NFL players and for him to flash like that regardless of the situation in the game was pretty impressive," Fisher said.

Wake me up when he actually gets meaningful PT ahead of Richardson. Hasn't happened in the last three months.

 

[EBF]

Only one carry so far. Fortunately, it was a pretty good one:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000093180/Richardson-32-yard-run

That could've been a TD with a little more speed though.

 

[cstu]

Only one carry so far. Fortunately, it was a pretty good one:http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000093180/Richardson-32-yard-runThat could've been a TD with a little more speed though.

Richardson looked really good today - some nice inside runs which I hadn't seen him do that well before.Pead was in on the last drive in OT and looked very quick on his one catch. I was shocked to see him out there after losing a fumble on a return.

 

[Max Power]

I've been a hardcore Sjax supporter since day 1. Owned the guy for about 6 years now. I think he still has some all-pro level explosiveness for a couple plays a game. That said, This needs be about a 60-40 split between the two backs.

Jackson was close to 6.0 YPC after his first 10 carries and then finished the game in the 3.5 range. As long as Richardson is up to par on pass blocking, I have no issued with him getting every other series. I'm not ready to jump on him as the future RB of STL, but if the price is right, I'll buy and see what happens.

 

[EBF]

5.7 YPC on the season. Not too shabby. Big question is whether or not he can handle a high volume of carries.

 

[EBF]

Lots of nice Richardson runs on this reel:

He's got some quick feet.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Lots of nice Richardson runs on this reel:

Look how fast he gets to the line of scrimmage.

 

[EBF]

Got a feeling he gets into the end zone today. Totally unsubstantiated, but he's "due" and the Jets are just sooooo bad right now.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Starting him today over r jennings

 

[Lascelle]

Had to rush DRich back into my lineup this week with the Sproles news breaking late about him being inactive.

At least Glazer passed along the intel before the 1pm games or I'd be stuck starting Vereen or Hillman.

 

[EBF]

Got a feeling he gets into the end zone today. Totally unsubstantiated, but he's "due" and the Jets are just sooooo bad right now.

 

[fatness]

- Morris has clearly surpassed every other RB on the roster.

- Morris has been productive in every game, including both regular season games in which he was the starter.

- His coach trusts him enough to give him far more touches than all the other RB's on the roster combined.

- He drives a cool car.

- He has looked legit all along (to the coaches, players, and opponents).

Sorry, but Morris is the definition of average. The main thing working in his favor is the fact that Washington's other RBs are also really bad. I think his value derives completely from opportunity and not at all from his own ability. I avoid those guys like the plague in dynasty leagues. Like I said, he would be lucky to even make the roster for a team like the 49ers, Eagles, or Panthers. I think Richardson is a much more dynamic talent with a much better chance of being FF relevant in two years. All the Skins homers in the world aren't going to change my opinion on that. It's pretty much irrelevant to this thread though. There are plenty of Morris threads on the board already. It would probably be better to discuss his prospects there instead of dragging him into this Richardson discussion for no apparent reason.

Update?

 

[Leroy's Aces]

I am an admitted message board lurker. I appreciate the content and advice the message board guys put out on a day-to-day basis.

But I would like to get the opinion of some of the valued FBG posters about Daryl Richardson for 2013 as we head into the NFL draft. Is he the surefire starter? I think so. Do the Rams look at RB yet again after taking Pead and Richardson last year? I say they do not and Richardson becomes the lead back. He does not have the speed of a Charles or a Spiller, but he has other amazing metrics (broad jump and vertical are both elite) as EBF has pointed out. Is he a dynasty guy to target and what kind of rookie pick would you trade to get him? I am thinking a mid-first may do it and end up being a fantastic trade for the buyer. Thoughts from the FBG dynasty experts out there?

 

[Gawain]

I am an admitted message board lurker. I appreciate the content and advice the message board guys put out on a day-to-day basis.

But I would like to get the opinion of some of the valued FBG posters about Daryl Richardson for 2013 as we head into the NFL draft. Is he the surefire starter? I think so. Do the Rams look at RB yet again after taking Pead and Richardson last year? I say they do not and Richardson becomes the lead back. He does not have the speed of a Charles or a Spiller, but he has other amazing metrics (broad jump and vertical are both elite) as EBF has pointed out. Is he a dynasty guy to target and what kind of rookie pick would you trade to get him? I am thinking a mid-first may do it and end up being a fantastic trade for the buyer. Thoughts from the FBG dynasty experts out there?

I think a mid-first might represent his value in June if the Rams don't draft anyone and haven't added another RB to the roster. Right now, with the Rams very likely to draft another running back and/or bring someone else in...a mid first is very high imo. I'm an owner, but right now I consider him very similar to a guy like Dwyer. Both of them have a shot at ending up RB1, but right now those odds are much less than 50%.

Pead is still there and while he had a pedestrian 2012, there's a non-zero chance that Pead ends up with the Lion's share of the carries.

I wouldn't be looking to go acquire him for more than a high second. Had he finished the season off as strong as he started I'd be more eager to buy.

 

[Sabertooth]

I tend to agree with Leroy's Aces on his value right now. The running backs in this class all have warts. Here is a kid who came in there and just ascended the depth chart on merit. Pead a much higher draft pick and yet Richardson was the one getting the carries. And he did a little something with those carries. He was a small school kid to boot. The Rams might bring in a veteran, but who is really left out there? I haven't seen them tied to Bradshaw. Turner? Ryan Grant? There just isn't anyone left out there that I think comes in and changes the running back landscape.

The draft is going to give you your answer. But with the wholes they have on the line and defensive weaknesses they've got, I don't see them grabbing an offensive skill player. The spent 4 of their 10 picks on running backs and wideouts. I can't see them doing anything like that again.

 

[jsharlan]

They pretty much have to draft at least a WR or two considering their roster contains Quick, Givens, and Austin Pettis. Not much there. So that might lessen the chance of taking a RB. Even if they don't add a new back, I can't see more than a timeshare between Richardson and Pead unless one just really pulls away from the other.

 

[TheFanatic]

Richardson is not the starter in 2013

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Richardson is not the starter in 2013

Jeff Fisher?