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The edge I can get from Chat GPT? (1 Viewer)

and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.
If you have to tell AI this, then AI suuuuucks.
No, it doesn't. The overwhelming majority of all the information about Brandon Aiyuk isn't about his injury. If you don't assign parameters the problem is with the query, not the result.
 
No, it doesn't. The overwhelming majority of all the information about Brandon Aiyuk isn't about his injury. If you don't assign parameters the problem is with the query, not the result.
Perhaps calling it “intelligence” is a misnomer, then. Because an intelligent tool would have gleaned that from the data it’s analyzing & distilling. That’s my point a few posts up - at a certain point you’re dialing in the prompt to such a degree that a few simple clicks would produce better/more efficient & accurate data.

And another issue is the affirmation quality of “AI” tools. Once you’ve spent so much time creating the prompt that you get the results you’re looking for, you risk having answered your own question, with the AI as a glorified marionette.

“Tell me what time is on a clock between 3:25 PM and 3:27 PM”

3:26

“Man, this AI is brilliant, I say!
 
I love the lively discussion, but I'm still wondering what about the AI list that was distilled from the prompts, do we agree on the breakouts and or sleepers? Is the list poo or goo...d?
 
I love the lively discussion, but I'm still wondering what about the AI list that was distilled from the prompts, do we agree on the breakouts and or sleepers? Is the list poo or goo...d?
It's only as good as however much faith you place in the wisdom of the source. I don't put much stock in reddit's general accuracy.
 
If you put in a little time and effort it is so much better than trying to sift through a random list of Google results, Reddit pages, FBG threads etc.
i mean, I choose to read certain analysts and ignore others. And among the ones I follow, i do rank their takes.

So in that light I’m distilling the information more efficiently than ChatGPT

I am also more aware of current events because I’m following player newsfeeds.

So without writing a prompt for 4 hours to do weighting of analyst, excluding certain info, asking about injury status, and spoon-feeding the exact sort of processing I want AI to do, I’m still going to have a faster, more efficient process for finding information than using AI. With more accurate, better vetted results.

Y’all continue to underestimate the capabilities and processing power of the fantasy-obsessed human mind. Ain’t nothing an AI can do that I can’t with enough coffee and OCD motivation.
;)
On the whole, I do think trying to apply AI to a subject like fantasy football is a fool's errand.

There is simply not enough consensus information and about a billion times more noise than useful information out there.

I have often asked if there are any analysts out there that go back and provide accuracy checks on their predictions from previous seasons. I am certain 99% of them are all wrong more often than they are right. Its why I used to compare my WDIS answeres with a coin toss. I ran about 55% IIRC. So, if the professionals don't get it right 50% of the time, it's foolish to think an AI will do better.

That being said it will absolutely take less time to work with an AI to distill information. You can easily apply parameters like dates and limiting the sources it checks to help you with your own analyses.
Also the accuracy thing is an AI usecase! You can get AI to run those numbers for you. Maybe find statistically who is the best fantasy analyst and then follow them.
If you put in a little time and effort it is so much better than trying to sift through a random list of Google results, Reddit pages, FBG threads etc.
i mean, I choose to read certain analysts and ignore others. And among the ones I follow, i do rank their takes.

So in that light I’m distilling the information more efficiently than ChatGPT

I am also more aware of current events because I’m following player newsfeeds.

So without writing a prompt for 4 hours to do weighting of analyst, excluding certain info, asking about injury status, and spoon-feeding the exact sort of processing I want AI to do, I’m still going to have a faster, more efficient process for finding information than using AI. With more accurate, better vetted results.

Y’all continue to underestimate the capabilities and processing power of the fantasy-obsessed human mind. Ain’t nothing an AI can do that I can’t with enough coffee and OCD motivation.
;)
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out. Thankfully it didn't.
 
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IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
 
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
A scalpel is only as good as the person using it.
 
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
A scalpel is only as good as the person using it.
And it’s even better when it’s actually a scalpel and not a whack-a-mole mallet. The current iteration of the tech is more the mallet and less the scalpel - it’s degrees of bad depending on the user.
 
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
A scalpel is only as good as the person using it.
And it’s even better when it’s actually a scalpel and not a whack-a-mole mallet. The current iteration of the tech is more the mallet and less the scalpel - it’s degrees of bad depending on the user.
I think you have drawn a conclusion in spite of evidence, not because of it.

Reducing it degrees of bad suggests you don't have much interest in seeing the good it can do.

I agree with most of your criticism about it's limitations, and risks. It's not a one stop shop, it's a tool. Like all tools, if used properly it can be an incredibly useful and powerful.

ETA a tool I will not be using for fantasy football purposes.
 
I think you have drawn a conclusion in spite of evidence, not because of it.
Rest assured, my conclusions are largely evidence-based. I will admit to a bias though because as someone who creates things for a living, and who employs artists (and always credits them for their work product) the blatant piracy of AI as a business model deeply offends me.

When I listen to AI CEOs whine that they can’t possibly run their businesses without wantonly stealing from others, it’s not a great look.
Reducing it degrees of bad suggests you don't have much interest in seeing the good it can do.
When the good it can do is limited to the effort in / product out model, then yes - I’m skeptical of the value of ROI. Time spent creating prompts vs time spent researching for yourself is currently not great return on your investment. Especially when you then need to fact-check the product for accuracy.

And then there’s the “telling you what you want to hear” aspect I mentioned earlier.

I agree with most of your criticism about it's limitations, and risks. It's not a one stop shop, it's a tool. Like all tools, if used properly it can be an incredibly useful and powerful.
At this point I think it’s fair to say that I am far more skeptical of its power than you.
ETA a tool I will not be using for fantasy football purposes
We have this in common.
 
Time spent creating prompts vs time spent researching for yourself is currently not great return on your investment.
Here is where I think you are missing out. It's the same thing.

The results you get from Google are curated, and often paid for.

When doing research, real research on a topic you want to learn about, not a one off, how often do you have to refine your web search? How often do you make it to page three of a web search results?

You would be much better served refining a query in an AI model than trying to suss out the veracity of a bunch of search result links independently.

Again, for real research, it's faster and provides far more robust results. Much better RoI.
 
Time spent creating prompts vs time spent researching for yourself is currently not great return on your investment.
Here is where I think you are missing out. It's the same thing.

The results you get from Google are curated, and often paid for.

When doing research, real research on a topic you want to learn about, not a one off, how often do you have to refine your web search? How often do you make it to page three of a web search results?

You would be much better served refining a query in an AI model than trying to suss out the veracity of a bunch of search result links independently.

Again, for real research, it's faster and provides far more robust results. Much better RoI.
Respectfully, that’s an inaccurate assumption, as I’m not talking about searching with google.

I pay for better resources so I don’t have to sort through that flotsam of curated/sponsored results. I’m very familiar with how search engines produce data.

But I have subscriptions to FBG, dynastyleaguefootball, and a couple of other sites so I can see what the analysts I respect have to say. I watch the YouTube clips of FF heads I trust to get their takes on a given player.

As such, my ROI for time-in vs data output is more narrow, and significantly more effective than spending time creating a prompt, then hoping the prompt I’ve created is giving me quality information rather than the mindless ramblings of some schmuck on reddit that the AI happened to scrape up with the rest.

And bonus, my dollars are supporting the FF writers who work painstakingly to be good at their jobs, and not some billionaire-owned eco-terrorist company that’s wasting 8,000 gallons of water so I can find out whether to pick Christian Kirk or Jaylin Higgins as my WR6.
 
Time spent creating prompts vs time spent researching for yourself is currently not great return on your investment.
Here is where I think you are missing out. It's the same thing.

The results you get from Google are curated, and often paid for.

When doing research, real research on a topic you want to learn about, not a one off, how often do you have to refine your web search? How often do you make it to page three of a web search results?

You would be much better served refining a query in an AI model than trying to suss out the veracity of a bunch of search result links independently.

Again, for real research, it's faster and provides far more robust results. Much better RoI.
Respectfully, that’s an inaccurate assumption, as I’m not talking about searching with google.

I pay for better resources so I don’t have to sort through that flotsam of curated/sponsored results. I’m very familiar with how search engines produce data.

But I have subscriptions to FBG, dynastyleaguefootball, and a couple of other sites so I can see what the analysts I respect have to say. I watch the YouTube clips of FF heads I trust to get their takes on a given player.

As such, my ROI for time-in vs data output is more narrow, and significantly more effective than spending time creating a prompt, then hoping the prompt I’ve created is giving me quality information rather than the mindless ramblings of some schmuck on reddit that the AI happened to scrape up with the rest.

And bonus, my dollars are supporting the FF writers who work painstakingly to be good at their jobs, and not some billionaire-owned eco-terrorist company that’s wasting 8,000 gallons of water so I can find out whether to pick Christian Kirk or Jaylin Higgins as my WR6.
I said earlier that AI for fantasy sports is a fool's errand and I won't be using it for that.

I thought we had moved on to real world value AI can provide. If not, I agree and my bad.
 
I said earlier that AI for fantasy sports is a fool's errand and I won't be using it for that.

I thought we had moved on to real world value AI can provide. If not, I agree and my bad.
Ah, ok - yes in the context outside of FF you’re not totally off base. I have a friend in real estate and she gets a ton of value from AI.

Being that this is a FF forum and a topic about ChatGPT providing an edge I’d assumed we were still talking about AI+FF, so that’s my bad.
 
I said earlier that AI for fantasy sports is a fool's errand and I won't be using it for that.

I thought we had moved on to real world value AI can provide. If not, I agree and my bad.
Ah, ok - yes in the context outside of FF you’re not totally off base. I have a friend in real estate and she gets a ton of value from AI.

Being that this is a FF forum and a topic about ChatGPT providing an edge I’d assumed we were still talking about AI+FF, so that’s my bad.
Yeah, I pay FBGs to do my fantasy research for me.
 
I said earlier that AI for fantasy sports is a fool's errand and I won't be using it for that.

I thought we had moved on to real world value AI can provide. If not, I agree and my bad.
Ah, ok - yes in the context outside of FF you’re not totally off base. I have a friend in real estate and she gets a ton of value from AI.

Being that this is a FF forum and a topic about ChatGPT providing an edge I’d assumed we were still talking about AI+FF, so that’s my bad.
Yeah, I pay FBGs to do my fantasy research for me.
Irony: maybe they’re all using AI

j/k, I can’t see Waldman switching from watching 1000 hours of film to asking AI for a summary.
:lol:
 
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
Well I'm definitely not dismissing all of what you say, my point was let's keep trying to use AI.

I do think AI is new and it definitely has its uses as a mallet to tenderize all the data and distill it to a nice summary to get the groupthink or what is the popular opinion like what I did above. Also if you prompt it you can make it into a scalpel.

But the revolutionary thing is that it scale and can do a lot of these sophisticated processes that we try to leverage like VBD, ADP value per website, I'm just using the tool and my best guesses to prompt it to do the thing.

I am more bullish on it. And like Sleeper I jumped on that app and got rewarded, but now that the market has caught up now I'm onto the next thing that can give us an edge.
 
But the revolutionary thing is that it scale and can do a lot of these sophisticated processes that we try to leverage like VBD, ADP value per website, I'm just using the tool and my best guesses to prompt it to do the thing.

I am more bullish on it. And like Sleeper I jumped on that app and got rewarded, but now that the market has caught up now I'm onto the next thing that can give us an edge.
That’s fair. Good luck. Hopefully it becomes less resource dependent in the near future.
 
I’ve used Grok AI to do a draft to see the results in a few best balls. I haven’t liked the teams but I guess we will see how the season pans out. I used it to review strategies by draft position as well as forecasting picks, but it aligns to the group think, so be cautious.
Well it's gotta be better than the Gronk AI I was using for my last auction draft. Spent $69 on Cade Otton.
so YOU are the one who outbid me! Grok told me to tap out at 65
 
IDK, if I can make an AI Agent for Fantasy Football advice then it seems like it can scale for any question and get rid of noise info and keep good info for its srcs. Then I'm game to do it to win at Fantasy!
I have yet to see an effective AI for FF advice. I’ve tried out several and the results they produce are no more effective (and oftentimes significantly less effective) than the conclusions I come to researching on my own without AI.

Also for the doom and gloomers I heard a quote on AI:

"AI won't take your job, but the guy using AI will."

I don't resist against change, read the top of the thread. I thought Sleeper would doom us back when it first came out.
I don’t resist change either. I worked in information technology for a decade+, and embraced technological change wholeheartedly.

But AI doesn’t necessarily represent “change”. It represents a tool that a handful of billionaires are seemingly over-invested in & are forcing down our throats. A lot of it is vaporware built on promises that the platforms simply can’t deliver. VC pipe dreams of an ever inflating bubble that’s more likely to burst than be wildly successful.

And in many cases it’s handing me a mallet as a tool when what I actually need is a scalpel.

Once AI starts acting more like a scalpel, perhaps I’ll give it another shot, but im hardly a Luddite or “doomer” who resists change, and I somewhat resent that projection. It comes off as dismissive of the several valid points I’ve made about the obvious limitations of today’s AI.

Add in the odious aspect of AI stealing from everyone else with zero respect for trademark or copyright as a deliberate business model, and it leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth about the entire technology & industry that runs it, to say nothing of the heinous environmental impact.
Well I'm definitely not dismissing all of what you say, my point was let's keep trying to use AI.

I do think AI is new and it definitely has its uses as a mallet to tenderize all the data and distill it to a nice summary to get the groupthink or what is the popular opinion like what I did above. Also if you prompt it you can make it into a scalpel.

But the revolutionary thing is that it scale and can do a lot of these sophisticated processes that we try to leverage like VBD, ADP value per website, I'm just using the tool and my best guesses to prompt it to do the thing.

I am more bullish on it. And like Sleeper I jumped on that app and got rewarded, but now that the market has caught up now I'm onto the next thing that can give us an edge.
Yeah it's as good as you make it. I actually had one make me another one that does specific, discrete tasks and data pulls and such. I'm having it make me a version of my own thoughts on how FF is won that I can then converse with - making a me that has no emotion and purely looks at facts.

I fed one Warren Sharp's entire book and told it to make sure it utilizes the information within when I ask it questions about what happened with a given player last season. Or when I ask about projected schedule changes for this season.

I'm toying with how to make one that has listened to every single Ringer FF podcast and can answer questions as if I was talking with those three guys. Haven't figured out fully how to mass upload audio to it yet but I will. Plan to make other personas too if it works.

It's a remarkable tool. Kind of mind-blowing really.


ETA: and that doesn't even touch on how amazingly helpful it has been in job search or in my current work.
 
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Yeah it's as good as you make it. I actually had one make me another one that does specific, discrete tasks and data pulls and such. I'm having it make me a version of my own thoughts on how FF is won that I can then converse with - making a me that has no emotion and purely looks at facts.

I fed one Warren Sharp's entire book and told it to make sure it utilizes the information within when I ask it questions about what happened with a given player last season. Or when I ask about projected schedule changes for this season.

I'm toying with how to make one that has listened to every single Ringer FF podcast and can answer questions as if I was talking with those three guys. Haven't figured out fully how to mass upload audio to it yet but I will. Plan to make other personas too if it works.

It's a remarkable tool. Kind of mind-blowing really.
That sounds super advanced- can you share some QnA with yours? I'm curious about what it would say.
 
Yeah it's as good as you make it. I actually had one make me another one that does specific, discrete tasks and data pulls and such. I'm having it make me a version of my own thoughts on how FF is won that I can then converse with - making a me that has no emotion and purely looks at facts.

I fed one Warren Sharp's entire book and told it to make sure it utilizes the information within when I ask it questions about what happened with a given player last season. Or when I ask about projected schedule changes for this season.

I'm toying with how to make one that has listened to every single Ringer FF podcast and can answer questions as if I was talking with those three guys. Haven't figured out fully how to mass upload audio to it yet but I will. Plan to make other personas too if it works.

It's a remarkable tool. Kind of mind-blowing really.
That sounds super advanced- can you share some QnA with yours? I'm curious about what it would say.
It's pretty detailed. Here's some of the exchange when I came to my projection for Bryce Young, and wanted to check it's thoughts.

I asked if 6.7 YPA seemed reasonable, or if I should be considering a higher or lower value for him in 2025.

Historical QB Trends: Year 2 to Year 3 YPA Improvement​

A study by CBS Sports looking at QB year-over-year trends found that presence of a new offensive coordinator correlated with an average YPA improvement of ~0.73 yards. That’s roughly the difference between someone averaging 6.9 YPA and a much stronger 7.6 YPA—significant, but not a huge jump. CBSSports.com
Young finished 2024 with 6.3 YPA Cat Scratch Reader+15Wikipedia+15ESPN.com+15. Even if he achieves that full average leap (~+0.7), he’d reach around 7.0 YPA—assuming favorable conditions like improved scheme, WR talent, and pocket chemistry.

External Projections & Context​

Canadian site CatScratchReader projects a stat line (3,577 passing yards on 542 attempts) implying ~6.6 YPA—just shy of the 6.7 mark you asked about. ESPN.com+3NFL.com+3CBSSports.com+3Cat Scratch Reader
Meanwhile, ESPN forecasted Young to throw for 3,431 yards, which also suggests a modest jump from 2024—not necessarily breaching the 6.7 threshold. FanDuel+5SI+5ESPN.com+5

Summary: Is 6.7 YPA Realistic?​

FactorExpected Impact on 2025 YPA
2024 YPA6.3
Historical Year-over-Year Gain (~0.7)Could push toward ~7.0 YPA
Warren Sharp’s WarningExtra rushing creates inflated O-line; not likely to continue
2025 ProjectionsAround 6.6 YPA in some forecasts
Offensive continuity + better weaponsPotential upside, but not guaranteed

Bottom Line​


  • Yes, a leap to ~6.7 YPA is within the realm of possibility based on average QB second-to-third-year improvement data.

  • But it isn’t a given—especially considering Sharp’s caution that Young's rushing efficiency may regress.

  • Most projections currently sit a bit under 6.7, suggesting it's an optimistic but not impossible target.
So, while not outlandish, expecting 6.7 YPA should come with a dose of realism. A more measured target would be in the 6.4–6.6 range, with upside toward 7.0 if surrounding pieces improve and Young’s growth stays on trajectory.
Want to dive deeper into his supporting cast’s strengths or projected offensive play-caller tendencies in 2025?


Then I asked it to consider what Sharp's preview says and look for some examples to support a bear, bull, and "i'm right" case.

Bryce Young’s 2024 Baseline

  • 2024 YPA: 6.3 (per Pro Football Reference / NFL.com)
  • League average in 2024: ~7.0 YPA
  • Context: His 2024 number was depressed by protection issues, WR separation problems, and a conservative game plan early in the year.

Historical Year 2 → Year 3 YPA Gains

Looking at QBs drafted in Round 1 from 2000–2022 who were starters in both years:
  • Median Year 2 → Year 3 gain: +0.4 YPA
  • Top quartile (good systems & added weapons): +0.7–0.9 YPA
  • Bottom quartile (no major offensive changes): flat or negative.
Examples of notable Year 3 jumps:
  • Josh Allen: 6.7 → 7.9 (+1.2) with Stefon Diggs arrival.
  • Jared Goff: 6.4 → 8.1 (+1.7) under McVay in 2017.
  • Trevor Lawrence: 6.0 → 7.0 (+1.0) after Doug Pederson hire.
Counterexamples:
  • Sam Darnold: 6.1 → 6.1 (flat).
  • Tua Tagovailoa: 6.8 → 6.8 (flat) before Tyreek Hill arrived.

Warren Sharp’s 2025 Outlook (Passing Only)

Sharp’s previews focus heavily on offensive environment:
  • New OC Dave Canales has a history of boosting QB efficiency in year one (Geno Smith: 7.4 YPA in 2022, Baker Mayfield: 7.3 YPA in 2023).
  • The scheme emphasizes intermediate routes and defined reads — historically good for raising YPA without spiking INT rate.
  • Sharp’s caution in Young’s section is not about passing ceiling — in fact, he cites Canales’ track record as a reason for optimism.

Probability of 6.7 YPA in 2025

If Young’s passing volume is similar to 2024 (around 500–540 attempts):
ScenarioYPASeason Pass Yards
Median historical jump (+0.4)6.7~3,620 yards
Upper quartile (+0.7)7.0~3,780 yards
Flat growth6.3~3,400 yards
  • Median path (most likely if WR corps is healthy and OL improves): Yes, 6.7 YPA is achievable.
  • Needs: Canales’ play-action & intermediate game to click, at least one WR2-level separation threat opposite Thielen.
  • Ceiling: Could surpass 6.7 and flirt with 7.0 YPA if protection holds and Young takes to the new scheme quickly.

It obviously has some detail challenges at times still (like this is Canales' second year in CAR not his first). But I spot check a lot of it (some of it I already know) and check the sources it links (or I ask it for the sources for its data and just check it) and the more it's accurate the less need I feel to check unless something seems weird.
 
That’s fair. Good luck. Hopefully it becomes less resource dependent in the near future

ChatGPT 5

You said:​

How would you rate Luck Dog hot sauce

ChatGPT said:
Here’s how Lucky Dog Hot Sauce generally rates, based on multiple reviews and feedback:


Overall Ratings & Reputation​


Community Buzz​

From a Reddit thread on r/hotsauce:

“One of the tastiest sauce brands I've ever tried. Full of flavor, plenty of heat if you want it. My new ‘put that sh*t on everything’ sauce.”
“Hell Hound is a creeper and the hottest they got but so tasty.”
“So complex and tasty. About half of their sauces are very mild (to my taste) but so damn tasty.” luckydoghotsauce.com+8Reddit+8luckydoghotsauce.com+8
These convey users loving both the flavorful complexity and the variety—from mild to scorching heat.


Summary: How I’d Rate It​

Flavor: Outstanding. Users consistently highlight the savory, fire-roasted depth, with smoky garlic, fruit notes, and balanced acid—flavors that stand out. (5/5)

Heat Range: Broad spectrum. Green Label offers approachable mild heat. On the other end, sauces like Heat’s a Peach and Hell Hound deliver a serious burn—but still deliver on flavor. (Varies from 2/5 for mild, up to 5/5 for the hottest)

Versatility: Highly versatile. Many fans use them across foods—eggs, tacos, grilled meats, sandwiches, you name it.

Consistency & Quality: Yellow-ish to thick pours with visible ingredients (garlic, pepper chunks)—and reportedly consistent quality. (4.5/5)

... pictures of recommended bottles, highlights, and a final take.

Need help picking based on your favorite flavors or spice tolerance? Just say the word — happy to help you choose!
 
That’s fair. Good luck. Hopefully it becomes less resource dependent in the near future

ChatGPT 5

You said:​

How would you rate Luck Dog hot sauce

ChatGPT said:
Here’s how Lucky Dog Hot Sauce generally rates, based on multiple reviews and feedback:


Overall Ratings & Reputation​


Community Buzz​

From a Reddit thread on r/hotsauce:

“One of the tastiest sauce brands I've ever tried. Full of flavor, plenty of heat if you want it. My new ‘put that sh*t on everything’ sauce.”
“Hell Hound is a creeper and the hottest they got but so tasty.”
“So complex and tasty. About half of their sauces are very mild (to my taste) but so damn tasty.” luckydoghotsauce.com+8Reddit+8luckydoghotsauce.com+8
These convey users loving both the flavorful complexity and the variety—from mild to scorching heat.


Summary: How I’d Rate It​

Flavor: Outstanding. Users consistently highlight the savory, fire-roasted depth, with smoky garlic, fruit notes, and balanced acid—flavors that stand out. (5/5)

Heat Range: Broad spectrum. Green Label offers approachable mild heat. On the other end, sauces like Heat’s a Peach and Hell Hound deliver a serious burn—but still deliver on flavor. (Varies from 2/5 for mild, up to 5/5 for the hottest)

Versatility: Highly versatile. Many fans use them across foods—eggs, tacos, grilled meats, sandwiches, you name it.

Consistency & Quality: Yellow-ish to thick pours with visible ingredients (garlic, pepper chunks)—and reportedly consistent quality. (4.5/5)

... pictures of recommended bottles, highlights, and a final take.

Need help picking based on your favorite flavors or spice tolerance? Just say the word — happy to help you choose!
Well in this instance AI is obviously the greatest tool ever produced by man, surpassing even Michelangelo’s David, the Panama Canal, the Sistine Chapel, and every other wonder of the world.

Clearly AI’s genius and accuracy knows no bounds, and it worthy of all praises due.

But just in this instance.

Ps - 1800 certified 5-Star reviews is pretty awesome, I gotta say.
:wub:
 
I had a long conversation with ChatGPT 5 about drafting a team. I'm picking 1.02, 0.5 PPR, passing yards are 1 pt for 10 yards. I fed it CBSsports projections using my league's scoring. And fed it the last 2 years of league drafting for patterns. I told it that I'd select Bijan or Barkley. Then I asked it to create a list of the top 5 players likely to be available (>50%) for each postion for my next selection. That might not be the best prompt, as in a bunch of say 5 players each with 30% chance of availability, the composite availability is much greater (1 - .7^5=97%). I made various selections from the list, went on to the 3rd round, repeat, up to 5th round.

Initially, ChatGPT was taking forever, because it was doing 3000 simulations! It realized the problem, and asked if I wanted to do 200 or 300 simulations. I chose 200, slightly embarrassed about using energy on a hobby. The simulations still seem to hang up at times, is that a ChatGPT 5 issue? Not sure.

Anyway, based on those simulations, I came away with the best strategy for drafting the first 6 players. It was similar to my intuition based on player projections by position. Best strategy by a smidge: RB, RB, QB, WR, WR, WR.
 
Yeah it's as good as you make it. I actually had one make me another one that does specific, discrete tasks and data pulls and such. I'm having it make me a version of my own thoughts on how FF is won that I can then converse with - making a me that has no emotion and purely looks at facts.

I fed one Warren Sharp's entire book and told it to make sure it utilizes the information within when I ask it questions about what happened with a given player last season. Or when I ask about projected schedule changes for this season.

I'm toying with how to make one that has listened to every single Ringer FF podcast and can answer questions as if I was talking with those three guys. Haven't figured out fully how to mass upload audio to it yet but I will. Plan to make other personas too if it works.

It's a remarkable tool. Kind of mind-blowing really.
That sounds super advanced- can you share some QnA with yours? I'm curious about what it would say.
It's pretty detailed. Here's some of the exchange when I came to my projection for Bryce Young, and wanted to check it's thoughts.

I asked if 6.7 YPA seemed reasonable, or if I should be considering a higher or lower value for him in 2025.

Historical QB Trends: Year 2 to Year 3 YPA Improvement​

A study by CBS Sports looking at QB year-over-year trends found that presence of a new offensive coordinator correlated with an average YPA improvement of ~0.73 yards. That’s roughly the difference between someone averaging 6.9 YPA and a much stronger 7.6 YPA—significant, but not a huge jump. CBSSports.com
Young finished 2024 with 6.3 YPA Cat Scratch Reader+15Wikipedia+15ESPN.com+15. Even if he achieves that full average leap (~+0.7), he’d reach around 7.0 YPA—assuming favorable conditions like improved scheme, WR talent, and pocket chemistry.

External Projections & Context​

Canadian site CatScratchReader projects a stat line (3,577 passing yards on 542 attempts) implying ~6.6 YPA—just shy of the 6.7 mark you asked about. ESPN.com+3NFL.com+3CBSSports.com+3Cat Scratch Reader
Meanwhile, ESPN forecasted Young to throw for 3,431 yards, which also suggests a modest jump from 2024—not necessarily breaching the 6.7 threshold. FanDuel+5SI+5ESPN.com+5

Summary: Is 6.7 YPA Realistic?​

FactorExpected Impact on 2025 YPA
2024 YPA6.3
Historical Year-over-Year Gain (~0.7)Could push toward ~7.0 YPA
Warren Sharp’s WarningExtra rushing creates inflated O-line; not likely to continue
2025 ProjectionsAround 6.6 YPA in some forecasts
Offensive continuity + better weaponsPotential upside, but not guaranteed

Bottom Line​


  • Yes, a leap to ~6.7 YPA is within the realm of possibility based on average QB second-to-third-year improvement data.

  • But it isn’t a given—especially considering Sharp’s caution that Young's rushing efficiency may regress.

  • Most projections currently sit a bit under 6.7, suggesting it's an optimistic but not impossible target.
So, while not outlandish, expecting 6.7 YPA should come with a dose of realism. A more measured target would be in the 6.4–6.6 range, with upside toward 7.0 if surrounding pieces improve and Young’s growth stays on trajectory.
Want to dive deeper into his supporting cast’s strengths or projected offensive play-caller tendencies in 2025?


Then I asked it to consider what Sharp's preview says and look for some examples to support a bear, bull, and "i'm right" case.

Bryce Young’s 2024 Baseline

  • 2024 YPA: 6.3 (per Pro Football Reference / NFL.com)
  • League average in 2024: ~7.0 YPA
  • Context: His 2024 number was depressed by protection issues, WR separation problems, and a conservative game plan early in the year.

Historical Year 2 → Year 3 YPA Gains

Looking at QBs drafted in Round 1 from 2000–2022 who were starters in both years:
  • Median Year 2 → Year 3 gain: +0.4 YPA
  • Top quartile (good systems & added weapons): +0.7–0.9 YPA
  • Bottom quartile (no major offensive changes): flat or negative.
Examples of notable Year 3 jumps:
  • Josh Allen: 6.7 → 7.9 (+1.2) with Stefon Diggs arrival.
  • Jared Goff: 6.4 → 8.1 (+1.7) under McVay in 2017.
  • Trevor Lawrence: 6.0 → 7.0 (+1.0) after Doug Pederson hire.
Counterexamples:
  • Sam Darnold: 6.1 → 6.1 (flat).
  • Tua Tagovailoa: 6.8 → 6.8 (flat) before Tyreek Hill arrived.

Warren Sharp’s 2025 Outlook (Passing Only)

Sharp’s previews focus heavily on offensive environment:
  • New OC Dave Canales has a history of boosting QB efficiency in year one (Geno Smith: 7.4 YPA in 2022, Baker Mayfield: 7.3 YPA in 2023).
  • The scheme emphasizes intermediate routes and defined reads — historically good for raising YPA without spiking INT rate.
  • Sharp’s caution in Young’s section is not about passing ceiling — in fact, he cites Canales’ track record as a reason for optimism.

Probability of 6.7 YPA in 2025

If Young’s passing volume is similar to 2024 (around 500–540 attempts):
ScenarioYPASeason Pass Yards
Median historical jump (+0.4)6.7~3,620 yards
Upper quartile (+0.7)7.0~3,780 yards
Flat growth6.3~3,400 yards
  • Median path (most likely if WR corps is healthy and OL improves): Yes, 6.7 YPA is achievable.
  • Needs: Canales’ play-action & intermediate game to click, at least one WR2-level separation threat opposite Thielen.
  • Ceiling: Could surpass 6.7 and flirt with 7.0 YPA if protection holds and Young takes to the new scheme quickly.

It obviously has some detail challenges at times still (like this is Canales' second year in CAR not his first). But I spot check a lot of it (some of it I already know) and check the sources it links (or I ask it for the sources for its data and just check it) and the more it's accurate the less need I feel to check unless something seems weird.
I am not advanced enough to even consider QBs YPA. Maybe if I did more 2QB leagues. Are you invested in Bryce Young? Prolly Dynasty. He is not even on my Radar for 2025. Canadian site CatScratchReader seems to be the shakey source out of this so I looked into them, https://www.catscratchreader.com/20...s-predicting-bryce-youngs-2025-stats#comments. Turns out it seemed to be a quality piece, but IDK they prolly would not get exposure to their work if not for AI.
 
Yeah it's as good as you make it. I actually had one make me another one that does specific, discrete tasks and data pulls and such. I'm having it make me a version of my own thoughts on how FF is won that I can then converse with - making a me that has no emotion and purely looks at facts.

I fed one Warren Sharp's entire book and told it to make sure it utilizes the information within when I ask it questions about what happened with a given player last season. Or when I ask about projected schedule changes for this season.

I'm toying with how to make one that has listened to every single Ringer FF podcast and can answer questions as if I was talking with those three guys. Haven't figured out fully how to mass upload audio to it yet but I will. Plan to make other personas too if it works.

It's a remarkable tool. Kind of mind-blowing really.
That sounds super advanced- can you share some QnA with yours? I'm curious about what it would say.
It's pretty detailed. Here's some of the exchange when I came to my projection for Bryce Young, and wanted to check it's thoughts.

I asked if 6.7 YPA seemed reasonable, or if I should be considering a higher or lower value for him in 2025.

Historical QB Trends: Year 2 to Year 3 YPA Improvement​

A study by CBS Sports looking at QB year-over-year trends found that presence of a new offensive coordinator correlated with an average YPA improvement of ~0.73 yards. That’s roughly the difference between someone averaging 6.9 YPA and a much stronger 7.6 YPA—significant, but not a huge jump. CBSSports.com
Young finished 2024 with 6.3 YPA Cat Scratch Reader+15Wikipedia+15ESPN.com+15. Even if he achieves that full average leap (~+0.7), he’d reach around 7.0 YPA—assuming favorable conditions like improved scheme, WR talent, and pocket chemistry.

External Projections & Context​

Canadian site CatScratchReader projects a stat line (3,577 passing yards on 542 attempts) implying ~6.6 YPA—just shy of the 6.7 mark you asked about. ESPN.com+3NFL.com+3CBSSports.com+3Cat Scratch Reader
Meanwhile, ESPN forecasted Young to throw for 3,431 yards, which also suggests a modest jump from 2024—not necessarily breaching the 6.7 threshold. FanDuel+5SI+5ESPN.com+5

Summary: Is 6.7 YPA Realistic?​

FactorExpected Impact on 2025 YPA
2024 YPA6.3
Historical Year-over-Year Gain (~0.7)Could push toward ~7.0 YPA
Warren Sharp’s WarningExtra rushing creates inflated O-line; not likely to continue
2025 ProjectionsAround 6.6 YPA in some forecasts
Offensive continuity + better weaponsPotential upside, but not guaranteed

Bottom Line​


  • Yes, a leap to ~6.7 YPA is within the realm of possibility based on average QB second-to-third-year improvement data.

  • But it isn’t a given—especially considering Sharp’s caution that Young's rushing efficiency may regress.

  • Most projections currently sit a bit under 6.7, suggesting it's an optimistic but not impossible target.
So, while not outlandish, expecting 6.7 YPA should come with a dose of realism. A more measured target would be in the 6.4–6.6 range, with upside toward 7.0 if surrounding pieces improve and Young’s growth stays on trajectory.
Want to dive deeper into his supporting cast’s strengths or projected offensive play-caller tendencies in 2025?


Then I asked it to consider what Sharp's preview says and look for some examples to support a bear, bull, and "i'm right" case.

Bryce Young’s 2024 Baseline

  • 2024 YPA: 6.3 (per Pro Football Reference / NFL.com)
  • League average in 2024: ~7.0 YPA
  • Context: His 2024 number was depressed by protection issues, WR separation problems, and a conservative game plan early in the year.

Historical Year 2 → Year 3 YPA Gains

Looking at QBs drafted in Round 1 from 2000–2022 who were starters in both years:
  • Median Year 2 → Year 3 gain: +0.4 YPA
  • Top quartile (good systems & added weapons): +0.7–0.9 YPA
  • Bottom quartile (no major offensive changes): flat or negative.
Examples of notable Year 3 jumps:
  • Josh Allen: 6.7 → 7.9 (+1.2) with Stefon Diggs arrival.
  • Jared Goff: 6.4 → 8.1 (+1.7) under McVay in 2017.
  • Trevor Lawrence: 6.0 → 7.0 (+1.0) after Doug Pederson hire.
Counterexamples:
  • Sam Darnold: 6.1 → 6.1 (flat).
  • Tua Tagovailoa: 6.8 → 6.8 (flat) before Tyreek Hill arrived.

Warren Sharp’s 2025 Outlook (Passing Only)

Sharp’s previews focus heavily on offensive environment:
  • New OC Dave Canales has a history of boosting QB efficiency in year one (Geno Smith: 7.4 YPA in 2022, Baker Mayfield: 7.3 YPA in 2023).
  • The scheme emphasizes intermediate routes and defined reads — historically good for raising YPA without spiking INT rate.
  • Sharp’s caution in Young’s section is not about passing ceiling — in fact, he cites Canales’ track record as a reason for optimism.

Probability of 6.7 YPA in 2025

If Young’s passing volume is similar to 2024 (around 500–540 attempts):
ScenarioYPASeason Pass Yards
Median historical jump (+0.4)6.7~3,620 yards
Upper quartile (+0.7)7.0~3,780 yards
Flat growth6.3~3,400 yards
  • Median path (most likely if WR corps is healthy and OL improves): Yes, 6.7 YPA is achievable.
  • Needs: Canales’ play-action & intermediate game to click, at least one WR2-level separation threat opposite Thielen.
  • Ceiling: Could surpass 6.7 and flirt with 7.0 YPA if protection holds and Young takes to the new scheme quickly.

It obviously has some detail challenges at times still (like this is Canales' second year in CAR not his first). But I spot check a lot of it (some of it I already know) and check the sources it links (or I ask it for the sources for its data and just check it) and the more it's accurate the less need I feel to check unless something seems weird.
I am not advanced enough to even consider QBs YPA. Maybe if I did more 2QB leagues. Are you invested in Bryce Young? Prolly Dynasty. He is not even on my Radar for 2025. Canadian site CatScratchReader seems to be the shakey source out of this so I looked into them, https://www.catscratchreader.com/20...s-predicting-bryce-youngs-2025-stats#comments. Turns out it seemed to be a quality piece, but IDK they prolly would not get exposure to their work if not for AI.
I do full projections for every player I think is fantasy relevant every year. I just happened to be on CAR when this question got asked.

Yeah I hadn't heard of site, so looked at it, and deemed it credible.

YPA is far more predictive and stable than per completion or something. Even better is EPA/attempt and success rate but I haven't translated those to yards yet. I need every QBs yards and TDs to check my receiving corps totals are sensible - can't catch 30 TDs of the QB is gonna toss 20.
 
I chose 200, slightly embarrassed about using energy on a hobby.
Don't be, there was a time when folks would be embarrassed by just playing fantasy football and now its mainstream. One thing in the future will be using the smart glasses to look at a draft board and asking your glasses who should I pick.
Anyways, Running simulations is interesting. I wonder if feeding it my mock drafts could pull any more useful info.

Tangent Rant incoming,
I also looked into other Fantasy football branded AI this morning and saw some:

https://app.rotobot.ai/chatbot-paywall-v2. Their tag line is unlock your edge, but it costs money so bump that!

I also think this is the turn off for me and others(not to put words in anyone's mouth) but its like apps you are paying for doing the fun part of researching/listening to a podcast and understanding the ins and outs of the hobby and having the shortcut.

It takes away from the "hunt". I still have people in my league go on and on about how I drafted Jimmy Graham super late and declared it the steal of the draft. I only knew about him from the audible and people still look at me like I'm a savant because of that pick.

My way of thinking is it would be fun to program your own AI w/ prompts and having it ingest what you want, essentially using the cringe term of 'vibe coding' a general AI and making it your own agent. So that is my nerd flavoring on AI that still makes it fun to me since I read and ingest the stuff I find valuable but then say, "here AI eat this info" and actually the AI will retain 100% of it and let me know if I stray from my strat after my 3rd, 4th , 5th beer at the draft.

 
Don't be, there was a time when folks would be embarrassed by just playing fantasy football and now its mainstream
Wut? Seems like false equivalence to brush off the environmental impact of LLMs and compare it to playing a game that has little to no environmental impact.

The energy, and especially water consumption of AI is a legitimate concern.
Researchers believe that each string of prompts uses roughly 16 ounces of water at data centers

That’s a glass of water for every prompt. Millions of people using it. Millions of prompts. Millions of 16 oz of water, wasted. On fantasy football questions.

If you were curing cancer or solving global warming I could justify that sort of resource consumption.

By 2027, AI is projected to consume between 4.2 billion and 6.6 billion cubic meters of water annually
I’m guessing most of that is not going towards solving global warming or curing cancer.

I’m not sure just playing fantasy football is the same level of significant embarrassment as wasting 4-6 billion cubic meters of our scarcest resource.

Sorry to be Betty Buzzkill, but it seems like a legitimate issue with AI.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
 
And another issue is the affirmation quality of “AI” tools. Once you’ve spent so much time creating the prompt that you get the results you’re looking for, you risk having answered your own question, with the AI as a glorified marionette.
Reminds me of the student who spends hours putting together an elaborate cheat sheet to sneak into the exam, then realizes he doesn't need it because the act of creating it helped cement all the facts in his memory
 
Reminds me of the student who spends hours putting together an elaborate cheat sheet to sneak into the exam, then realizes he doesn't need it because the act of creating it helped cement all the facts in his memory
I literally did this in college for an American History class 1861-1877 (civil war through to reconstruction) final exam. Added pressure: I was headed for a solid C, but if the grade on the final was higher than your grade to that point, the final test grade became your grade for the class.

I crammed so hard, but it’s a lot of info, and I felt like I was going to forget key dates. So I made a little cheat sheet… and when I opened the blue book to write my answer to the question on the chalkboard, I never looked at it once. Everything just flowed. That was the only A in my entire college career.
 
the AI isn't good enough yet, but give it 5 years...it's improving at an astonishing rate.
Generally speaking, you are absolutely right. But I think we also need to be mindful of what exactly we are asking AI to do. The classic example we always hear is a radiologist using it to analyze an MRI far more effectively than a human ever could. But in that case, you're dealing with knowable facts. At the moment the scan is performed, the patient does or does not have a tumor that will or will not become cancerous. What the AI can do is analyze every single MRI in a database in order to come up with an answer to those questions.

Projecting football is very different. The number of fantasy points Saquon will score this season is not a knowable fact; it is TBD based on a huge range of factors that are also unknowable. You could feed it all kinds of data about Saquon's career, or similar Eagles RBs, or RBs with his exact height/weight/athleticism, but It still couldn't know with confidence what he will do in 2025

Maybe AI will evolve in the coming years to be able to operate better in those types of situations, but I doubt it will ever fundamentally change.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.
 
What the AI can do is analyze every single MRI in a database in order to come up with an answer to those questions.
Respectfully, this is not true.

What the AI can do is analyze the MRIs and suggest a possible answer. It cannot tell you if it’s a tumor or a fatty cyst, and it certainly cannot tell you if it’s cancer.

I want to call this out specifically because this is a very common allegation about the tech - that AI can replace/supplant medical (or any other) expertise.

Those 1000s of hours of training and using practical sciences to test for specific diseases are irreplaceable. Now, in the hands of a trained oncologist, AI might save a little time in getting to that answer, which will then still need to be vetted through various screenings, 2nd opinions, etc.

But the AI is incapable of coming up with an answer.

I do agree with your statement about projecting FF.
 
Don't be, there was a time when folks would be embarrassed by just playing fantasy football and now its mainstream
Wut? Seems like false equivalence to brush off the environmental impact of LLMs and compare it to playing a game that has little to no environmental impact.

The energy, and especially water consumption of AI is a legitimate concern.
Researchers believe that each string of prompts uses roughly 16 ounces of water at data centers

That’s a glass of water for every prompt. Millions of people using it. Millions of prompts. Millions of 16 oz of water, wasted. On fantasy football questions.

If you were curing cancer or solving global warming I could justify that sort of resource consumption.

By 2027, AI is projected to consume between 4.2 billion and 6.6 billion cubic meters of water annually
I’m guessing most of that is not going towards solving global warming or curing cancer.

I’m not sure just playing fantasy football is the same level of significant embarrassment as wasting 4-6 billion cubic meters of our scarcest resource.

Sorry to be Betty Buzzkill, but it seems like a legitimate issue with AI.
Just FWIW...you know the water isn't potable to begin with and that it doesn't disappear forever, right? It's typically an evap recirculation system or something similar.

Don't worry - the hot take hasn't killed any buzz I bet, so no need to feel the pain of that.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
And those 5000 people deserve it. They don't understand what they're doing. That's what happens.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
No but it might waste 80,000 oz of water.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
No but it might waste 80,000 oz of water.
Yes, it is extraordinarily water and energy intensive.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
No but it might waste 80,000 oz of water.
Yes, it is extraordinarily water and energy intensive.
Energy, yes. And having the water present, yes. But once there's the water doesn't get used up. That feels like an important distinction.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
No but it might waste 80,000 oz of water.
Yes, it is extraordinarily water and energy intensive.
Energy, yes. And having the water present, yes. But once there's the water doesn't get used up. That feels like an important distinction.
It doesn't get the water back to the people whose water rights were sold to bring a server farm to town.

It doesn't even provide a ton of jobs after the construction ends. It's generally not a good teal for these places to bring in a server farm. It's often a short sighted cash grab.
 
It doesn't even provide a ton of jobs after the construction ends. It's generally not a good teal for these places to bring in a server farm. It's often a short sighted cash grab.
Plus the numerous stories of air, water, and noise pollution surrounding these communities & causing significant disruption. Associated health issues have reportedly been spiking in those areas, too.
 
ChatGPT still thinks Deebo is playing for 49'ers

FYI


If everyone stays healthy, Brandon Aiyuk is the safest bet to lead the 49ers in receptions in 2025.


Here’s why:


  • Route volume & role – Aiyuk runs the highest percentage of full-route snaps in Kyle Shanahan’s offense, especially on intermediate timing routes where Purdy is most efficient.
  • Defensive attention on Deebo Samuel & Christian McCaffrey – Defenses often scheme against Deebo’s YAC plays and CMC’s pass-catching, leaving Aiyuk more single coverage.
  • Contract-year motivation – Unless extended, Aiyuk will be playing for a big payday, and players in that situation often get force-fed targets when possible.
  • 2024 trend – He’s led them in receiving yards each of the past two seasons, and his target share was creeping up even with Deebo healthy.

The only real threat to him in catches, not yards, would be Christian McCaffrey, since his checkdowns and screens can pile up fast—especially if Purdy sees more blitz pressure this year.


If you want my prediction in one line:
📊 Aiyuk ~85–90 catches, McCaffrey close behind, Deebo third.
This is a good example of the flaws with chatGPT, and probably with the original query.

Two options to help: 1) in your initial query ask it to limit it's results to information dated, for example, after July 30th (roughly the beginning of TC)

2) follow up by saying: Thank you, chatGPT, but your answer is flawed. Deebo was traded to the Commanders and Brandon Aiyuk is still recovering from an injury has been unable to practice and will start the season on the PUP. Please refine your results considering this information.

I have and did and it will reply " you are right, Deebo was traded to Commanders"

and then tomorrow, it will give 49er's projections with Deebo again

its not a self learning AI
Continue the conversation in the same chat and it will remember. Start a new chat and it won't.



possibly

but if 5,000 new people ask today about the 49er's WR production predictions .... 5,000 people will be misled that Deebo is on the 49ers team
Maybe. It depends on their query. But, the queries of those 5,000 people won't influence your chat results.
No but it might waste 80,000 oz of water.
Yes, it is extraordinarily water and energy intensive.
Energy, yes. And having the water present, yes. But once there's the water doesn't get used up. That feels like an important distinction.
It doesn't get the water back to the people whose water rights were sold to bring a server farm to town.

It doesn't even provide a ton of jobs after the construction ends. It's generally not a good teal for these places to bring in a server farm. It's often a short sighted cash grab.
That could all be true also. No disagreement here. Just pointing out the harping on the "waste" of water is a bit silly.
 

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