General Malaise
Footballguy
Finally! An explanation I sort of understand. Thanks RF!
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Finally! An explanation I sort of understand. Thanks RF!
Scoresman
Footballguy
It's a pretty good model.
I've tried to get into Reddit, but it's just not taking. I don't understand any of this.
Implementing it here for instance, political threads would get downvoted to oblivion. Which is good. A good Friday thread would almost certainly be at the top.
You wouldn't necessarily be able to bump old threads, but that's a good thing. Who wants to go through a 500 page thread looking for info? Just make a new post if it's discussion worthy in it own right.
mr. furley
Footballguy
yeah, i dunno.
i'm old and don't get the customization piece of it, either.
the company i work for is diving in to allowing customization of our interfaces and it has been a huge headache. 10 people have 10 different experiences with the same end product so troubleshooting when something goes wrong for one of them is more difficult than it was 2-3 years ago.
General Malaise
Footballguy
It's a pretty good model.
I've tried to get into Reddit, but it's just not taking. I don't understand any of this.
Implementing it here for instance, political threads would get downvoted to oblivion. Which is good. A good Friday thread would almost certainly be at the top.
You wouldn't necessarily be able to bump old threads, but that's a good thing. Who wants to go through a 500 page thread looking for info? Just make a new post if it's discussion worthy in it own right.
I need a Reddit sherpa who can guide me through a better experience.
massraider
Footballguy
It is to clean up the brutal looking interface.
Right now, someone makes a post asking a question. Maybe you would like to see the answers. Well, someone makes a funny comment, someone else makes a pun on that comment, everyone piles on, piggybacking on the funny pun train (It's happened here), and people upvote the funny comments, and you need to scroll past all that to find an actual answer. If there actually is one. You can waste time on Reddit while trying to NOT waste time. Annoying.
These APIs are designed to improve the user experience, in different ways.
A further issue of Reddit is karma farming. Reddit has developed a reputation as a place to go to get the true devotees of whatever (toy trains, sneakers, kitchen equipment, ask a mechanic, etc.). It was/is a good spot to search for something, and get recommendations that don't come from a website that is just doing referral links.
But users have figured out you can have bots create popular posts/comments, that get upvoted, then when you recommend something it seems like it is coming from a legit Reddit user. Scammers are making it harder to get legit information/recommendations.
Runkle
Footballguy
With Twitter and Reddit both self-imploding, it'll be interesting to see if any other service rises up to become a go-to information-gathering service.
Also wild to see these sites that rely, basically, on free labor suddenly change gears to box them out so fast. I don't see this as a positive for Reddit's upcoming IPO for sure. Whatever value they had is slowly being eaten away.
Also wild to see these sites that rely, basically, on free labor suddenly change gears to box them out so fast. I don't see this as a positive for Reddit's upcoming IPO for sure. Whatever value they had is slowly being eaten away.
mr. furley
Footballguy
ah, see, i don't care that much about it
i read the titles, look at articles, watch a couple funny videos now and again.
the comment threads are not just hard to follow in the "old" format but the comments are almost universally unreadable anyways so i mostly don't read comments.
Scoresman
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
I feel you, and I am on Reddits where I am just watching fightporn, and comments don't matter.
Where it had utility for me was in researching a purchase. Espresso press, raw denim, computer printer, tools, business software, etc. It was a good place to find out more about almost anything, and that came from the comments. The format makes a reader of comments miserable, hence an API.
beer 30
Footballguy
In the Reddit search bar type in r/warmwifechallenge where the word warm is actually not the word to actually type in. Start there, all you need to know
General Malaise
Footballguy
In the Reddit search bar type in r/warmwifechallenge where the word warm is actually not the word to actually type in. Start there, all you need to know
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
My link
I've tried to get into Reddit, but it's just not taking. I don't understand any of this.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah it is. :brownchickenbrowncow:In the Reddit search bar type in r/warmwifechallenge where the word warm is actually not the word to actually type in. Start there, all you need to know
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culdeus
Footballguy
Reddit is frustrating at times. If you want to get information on like a Volvo Air Conditioner from 2014 and you reply to a topic about a timing belt, it might be 3 years old. If you reply to it nobody except the people around in 2016 or whatever might get notified, but probably not. So you have to start a new topic or it is buried.
3rd party apps helped so so much with making it searchable, and is probably a motivation here. Reddit WANTS activity as comments, not posts in ancient threads.
Discord is like, there is no search capability at all and every single thought anyone has must be rehashed over and over with people trolling hard. No idea how Discord makes money, I don't see many (if any) ads on there.
3rd party apps helped so so much with making it searchable, and is probably a motivation here. Reddit WANTS activity as comments, not posts in ancient threads.
Discord is like, there is no search capability at all and every single thought anyone has must be rehashed over and over with people trolling hard. No idea how Discord makes money, I don't see many (if any) ads on there.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The search function on Reddit is pretty terrible as well. Using Google to search Reddit is definitely the better route.
With the way it functions, having good moderators who setup subreddits well with a good archived FAQ, rules, enforcement of this rules, etc makes a huge difference in sub experiences. Without good mods, the user experience is going to be even worse than it is.
General Malaise
Footballguy
What do "Personal Write In" mean?
culdeus
Footballguy
what?
culdeus
Footballguy
FYI many are going dark now all the way to July that said 2 days initially.
Chris B.
Footballguy
What's your favorite topic, sport, hobby? if you do a search for it on the reddit site, chances are there are thousands or millions of fellow enthusiasts that discuss those things within the subreddit community. Just click around, it took me a few days to get into but there's lots of fun stuff on there.
beer 30
Footballguy
It wasn't this morning...or so I'm toldIn the Reddit search bar type in r/warmwifechallenge where the word warm is actually not the word to actually type in. Start there, all you need to know
Marked private
So is that how they are "going dark"? I've seen that on a few of the boards I follow. I can't even see the comment I left on one yesterday to see replies to it.
Chris B.
Footballguy
Wow, that's long. Hopefully/selfishly, the couple I follow will keep their boycott short. A lot of us nerds will miss the daily discussions.
Chris B.
Footballguy
Yeah, the mods made their subs disappear so we can't start threads in them even if we didn't care about the protest.It wasn't this morning...or so I'm toldIn the Reddit search bar type in r/warmwifechallenge where the word warm is actually not the word to actually type in. Start there, all you need to know
Marked private
So is that how they are "going dark"? I've seen that on a few of the boards I follow. I can't even see the comment I left on one yesterday to see replies to it.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Reddit - Dive into anything
www.reddit.com
I get a red box that says "Personal Write In" under the thread title. I see it here and there. I was just curious what it meant.
General Malaise
Footballguy
I like disc golf, but I hate the technical jargon employed in most threads. You're throwing a frisbee into a basket, not launching a satellite into space. But, maybe if I cared more, I wouldn't suck so bad at the hobby.
I generally stick to my local community and state of Oregon threads. I like some of the camping stuff related to the PNW. That's helpful.
I spend an embarrassing amount of time in the AITAH threads.
culdeus
Footballguy
Right, but if you want active user engagement it is hard, if you just want to go look for a valid answer googling "Volvo air conditioning timing reddit" on google does get you further than whatever search is there in reddit. The problem is where you need to tweak the answer or find something that doesn't align exactly with prior answers.
Discord isn't any better, but a forum like this is.
culdeus
Footballguy
That's a tag, some subs let people tag posts so they can be filtered better. These are more helpful in the NSFW subs....
Reddit - Dive into anything
I get a red box that says "Personal Write In" under the thread title. I see it here and there. I was just curious what it meant.
Runkle
Footballguy
idk Discord seems like it's right in the middle of shooting itself in the foot, too, with their new username policy. Everyone hates it, and has explained why it's a terrible idea for users, so, Discord is doubling-down and forcing it on everyone full-speed-ahead.
Jaysus
Good times!
NTA
I like disc golf, but I hate the technical jargon employed in most threads. You're throwing a frisbee into a basket, not launching a satellite into space. But, maybe if I cared more, I wouldn't suck so bad at the hobby.
I generally stick to my local community and state of Oregon threads. I like some of the camping stuff related to the PNW. That's helpful.
I spend an embarrassing amount of time in the AITAH threads.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Discord's the one I don't get as a suggested "alternative". I use it here and there, but it very much seems like a chat room to me, not a message board. The two seem like completely different things to me. Reddit is much closer to what we have here. A mostly searchable message board with different topics. Discord is a chat room.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Should be easy like Sunday morning.It's a pretty good model.
I've tried to get into Reddit, but it's just not taking. I don't understand any of this.
Implementing it here for instance, political threads would get downvoted to oblivion. Which is good. A good Friday thread would almost certainly be at the top.
You wouldn't necessarily be able to bump old threads, but that's a good thing. Who wants to go through a 500 page thread looking for info? Just make a new post if it's discussion worthy in it own right.
I need a Reddit sherpa who can guide me through a better experience.
wazoo11
Footballguy
Reddit is the reason for killing off niche but fun message boards.
Chris B.
Footballguy
I agree. I only used it when I play a team-based game and I need to communicate to strategize, but never used the voice chat function. My wife out-nerded me when she met some Diablo Immortal players on Discord to coordinate a raid with.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
This kind of thing was inevitable. Reddit is trying to IPO this year. Their problem is the same as Facebook's when Facebook IPO'd. They have a ton of users, but no clear picture on how to monetize them. In order for the stock to do well (and make the executives rich) they have to have revenue, not just users.
This won't be the end of it, not even close. Facebook, twitter, youtube, etc are all significantly more aggressive in monetization at the cost of user experience than they were as private companies, at the expense of user experience. Reddit similarly has to find a way to make money for the stock to do well and this isn't nearly enough.
This won't be the end of it, not even close. Facebook, twitter, youtube, etc are all significantly more aggressive in monetization at the cost of user experience than they were as private companies, at the expense of user experience. Reddit similarly has to find a way to make money for the stock to do well and this isn't nearly enough.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Also as an ex-software developer of 10 years it seems like there's still some misunderstandings of what an API is.
The apps/websites that display reddit or people use for bulk moderation aren't "APIs". They're apps, or websites, or whatever. API is merely the interface that Reddit has on their end to allow those sites/apps/etc to query Reddit data and access Reddit functionality without actually being Reddit themselves.
For example, if anyone here is familiar with fantasymojo.com, it provides all kind of sortable data on FFPC fantasy football leagues like ADP. You can look up a player's ADP based on league type, see recent FFPC drafts, etc. Fantasymojo is, of course, not FFPC. They are an independent website accessing FFPC data via FFPC's API. API's can either be public/free, or private/paid. It's totally up to the company. No company has to provide an API, and they only do so if they want to let other apps/websites use their data or functionality.
So for instance, FFPC's API may include a function called getResults($leagueID) where another piece of software can enter any league's ID and FFPC will return them a list of the draft results of that league. So then fantasymojo can take that data and do whatever they want with it. Make ADP lists, etc. All stuff that FFPC could do themselves but they don't have the time, manpower, or creativity to do everything possible so instead they let other apps/websites have access to the data to do cool stuff with.
The apps/websites that display reddit or people use for bulk moderation aren't "APIs". They're apps, or websites, or whatever. API is merely the interface that Reddit has on their end to allow those sites/apps/etc to query Reddit data and access Reddit functionality without actually being Reddit themselves.
For example, if anyone here is familiar with fantasymojo.com, it provides all kind of sortable data on FFPC fantasy football leagues like ADP. You can look up a player's ADP based on league type, see recent FFPC drafts, etc. Fantasymojo is, of course, not FFPC. They are an independent website accessing FFPC data via FFPC's API. API's can either be public/free, or private/paid. It's totally up to the company. No company has to provide an API, and they only do so if they want to let other apps/websites use their data or functionality.
So for instance, FFPC's API may include a function called getResults($leagueID) where another piece of software can enter any league's ID and FFPC will return them a list of the draft results of that league. So then fantasymojo can take that data and do whatever they want with it. Make ADP lists, etc. All stuff that FFPC could do themselves but they don't have the time, manpower, or creativity to do everything possible so instead they let other apps/websites have access to the data to do cool stuff with.
massraider
Footballguy
Great post.
mr. furley
Footballguy
in the end, the people who benefit from the IPO are going to cash out and walk away. why do they care what happens after they're gone?
bleed that stone and walk away, baby!
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I've used Reddit for a long time, but never tried Discord.
For Reddit, I agree, and I think the reason for the disconnect is just simply the size.
The size and number of users is obviously a benefit. You go there because there's a subreddit for whatever weird/niche thing you are into.
But the size means you don't feel as connected to it either. With old fart message boards like this one, you just feel more connected because it's a much smaller user base of regulars.
On Reddit, you can find people into whatever, but you won't run into a Wikkid.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Are you still blogging there??
dkp993
Footballguy
What’s Reddit?
grateful zed
Footballguy
ive never been there. sounds like a **** show.
otb_lifer
Footballguy
if ya type in the correct search term ...
mr. furley
Footballguy
under my EZLuver96 alias
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I use Reddit to get information about high profile murder cases, I enjoy reading the online detectives try and piece things together.
I don't post, just read the more controversial posts and replies.
I don't post, just read the more controversial posts and replies.
culdeus
Footballguy
Some of those murder true crime stuff feels like the criminal and cops are both posting in it.
Just like they know just a bit too much sometimes.
culdeus
Footballguy
Discord had a clear purpose for gamers looking to get a game and chat while gaming.
Make no mistake it's trying really hard now to break into this scene reddit is maybe abandoning
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Yeah. The native Reddit app is pretty much awful.That's why 3rd party apps exist.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This is true but that's what makes it so crazy.
The Mother Bleeper who murdered all those college students in Idaho apparently was posting on Reddit
The one that never seems to be solved is Missy Bevers from several years back. The same time her murder popped up in the media, you had the Ohio Family Massacre-Rhodens and there was a prolific murder in the State of Washington where the suspect fled to Mexico with help from his brother and parents, dispute with neighbor and how they ever thought they would get away with it is anyone's guess. But the Missy Bevers murder remains unsolved even with video of the killer just moments before the murder
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