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In Fairness it could say how good Nebraska's D is...
for 2012
Are you sure? Wouldn't he have to have played in a spread offense for this to be true? I hate to break it to you, but he's never played in a spread offense. WTF are you talking about?That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him slip out of the first round. It happens to lots of prospects. He's played one full year in a pro-style offense. He's had several big games, and one embarrassingly bad game. You have to know that the QB that he might be in five years is not the quarterback that he is now. Further, is all this "he's awesome" vs "he sucks" talk necessary? How about, "he's a prospect". Time will tell.To the original poster, there aren't many Seatte fans that post on this board. I'm one of the few. I object to you painting me with your broad brush. I'm as objective as they get. I criticize there failures just as often as I praise their success. Feel free to click on my profile, search my posts, and point out the first inkling of homerism that you see from me.
He may not be a first rounder. I've never seen him step into a throw knowing he was going to get thumped, but I have seen him lean back and sail passes over and over in the same situations. On a positive note, he's doing a better job of throwing balls away and dialing up a new one instead of taking horrendous sacks trying to extend a play.
Except for the few on this board, I really hate Seahawk fans. You guys are fair weather fans, and nothing is ever good enough for you guys.
Jake Locker is overrated and this talk about drafting him or that he will be the first QB drafted is complete bull####....
That is all.
Haven't the Seahawks only won 1 game in the last 200,324? And yet they sell-out the stadium every single game for the last...well, for as long as they have had Seahawks stadium. Also, the Seahawks home is known as one of the hardest places to play and the loudest outdoor stadium in the country. I'm not sure how this all equals "fairwheather fans?"
I'm more of a casual college football fan these days, so I'll defer to you guys, but I'd be blown away if the guy who has been #1 on Kiper's and the majority of draft boards suddenly falls off the 1st round map altogether. Even after the Nebraska debacle, Kiper has him at #4 overall.We'll see.
Newsflash: It's not just coffee swilling fans who think Shaun Alexander is still on the team who have Locker as a 1st rounder. Objective thoughts: I think he's got a long way to go before he's a NFL QB, and his question marks/issues are, in my opinion, the most important parts of being a QB - decision making and accuracy. I'd love to see him step into more throws and stop floating the ball high, too. But, the kid was basically a RB in HS and had Ty Willingham as his QB for his first few years. Someone mentioned "Go Jake Go" in one of these other threads. He's basically in year 2 of being a real QB. He's got great intangibles, and works his ### off. Writing him off at this point in time is as silly as crowning his ###. The fact is that he isn't a finished product, we just don't know what he's going to be, and anybody who claims they know one way or the other is just pulling crap out of their backside.Subjective thoughts: I'd love it if the 'hawks got him with their first pick, but I full well realize that's the irrational UW alum/lifetime hawk fan in me. If we pass over a QB with more prototypical skills like Luck or Mallet, I'll be mildly annoyed. If they're all off the board, I'd love to see it. I like rooting for him, and I like that he came back for his senior year, and I hope it doesn't cost him too much scratch. If he did end up getting it and turning into what his potential is, him doing it in Seattle would be a treat for a city that's been bent over a barrel and whipped with a chainsaw for the last few years.Except for the few on this board, I really hate Seahawk fans. You guys are fair weather fans, and nothing is ever good enough for you guys.Jake Locker is overrated and this talk about drafting him or that he will be the first QB drafted is complete bull####....That is all.
Yes, they've sold out every game played in Qwest Field. Yes, they are the loudest and quite proud of it. Since moving in Qwest they take great pride in leading the NFL in visiting teams false start penalties. The 12th man is alive an well. However, northwest sports fans are the definition of fair-weather fans. When a team is rolling, local support flourishes. This is true in both baseball and football. It was true in basketball as well. That was so true that after a few losing seasons most fans really didn't care when the team moved to Oklahoma city. Yes, fans around here are as fair-weather as it gets.To be fair, people in the Puget Sound area generally frown on people that define their local identity through professional sports. We have a lot going for us around here beyond sports. This area is really defined by the "outdoorsy" types. Hiking, biking, camping, fishing, skiing (both snow and water) are what sells in this area. I'm not sure how to define it properly without using too broad a brush, but coffee and microbrews are way more important around here than Seahawk victories. IMO there is a lot of truth in what he is saying.Except for the few on this board, I really hate Seahawk fans. You guys are fair weather fans, and nothing is ever good enough for you guys.
Jake Locker is overrated and this talk about drafting him or that he will be the first QB drafted is complete bull####....
That is all.
I'm just confused all the way around...
I really question the amount of slack that people are willing to cut young QBs who appear to have "tremendous upside" on the basis of their physical talent. You say Locker has only been a real QB for two years. He has been a QB since high school. This is his fourth year on campus at Washington. While I realize that their coaching hasn't always been tremendous, I find it hard to believe that Willingham's staff didn't introduced him to concepts like throwing mechanics and progressions. That's basic stuff that any self-respecting high school QB coach will preach to his kids. And yet here we are 5-6 years after Locker first emerged as a blue chip high school QB prospect, still wondering when he'll put the puzzle together.
GTFO, you are a fair weather fan. I didn't see anyone but myself defending Pete Carroll.Except for the few on this board, I really hate Seahawk fans. You guys are fair weather fans, and nothing is ever good enough for you guys.Jake Locker is overrated and this talk about drafting him or that he will be the first QB drafted is complete bull####....That is all.
I really question people who write long diatribes on the internet. I said I don't think Locker isn't an NFL QB yet. I don't know if he'll get there. You, apparently, don't think he will, and that's fine.
Watching people jockey for position so that they can have verifiable evidence of their wicked smart football knowledge is sort of silly. I'm not directing this at you, EBF. I appreciate you sharing your opinion. I just see it a lot and wonder what the point is.The problem is that he has miserable games every other week. And yes you can make excuses because Washington sucks so bad that every opponent can legally be described as "superior", but a true NFL prospect would find a way to elevate his own game even against the best competition. Jay Cutler played for a team that was as bad as the Huskies and yet he put up superior stats.Are we going to give Locker a pass for the entire season because every one of his opponents is superior?? He damn well better put up 5 TD and 500 yards against Washington State, then.
Diatribe??I really question people who write long diatribes on the internet. I said I don't think Locker isn't an NFL QB yet. I don't know if he'll get there. You, apparently, don't think he will, and that's fine.
That looks like a well thought out and statistically supported argument. He may be right, he may be wrong, but amid the sea of crap that gets posted around here, that is the kind of stuff I come here for. 
That's a very broad generality. Could you be more specific? Which games are you referring to?
My error. Thanks for pointing that out.
From a character standpoint Leaf and Locker are polar opposites. Further, they had a very different skill set. Leaf was a much taller stationary pocket passer. Locker is more of an average height and vastly more athletic. This was a nice try at a one-liner, but sadly it fails miserably from just about every angle.
yeah more of a vince young starter kit
Agreed. He had a few opportunities to step into a throw and take a hit, but I saw him backing away from it preventing him from being able to put more on the throw. I understand this isn't a "natural" thing to do, but IMO its one the things I look for in assessing an potential NFL QB.ASU game planned well to take away his ability to run. Huskies attempted several running plays just for Locker, but they went nowhere.On a positive note I think he delivered one of his best deep balls I've ever seen down the right sideline to WR J Kearse, but it was dropped. Ball was dropped perfectly into a small window. Kearse may have had one of his worst games ever with multiple drops.
I'll vote twice for this one. Locker is looking more and more like a Losman clone.
Did he really do that much in one game to erase all the memories of the other games he's played this season? I think any and all Husky fans should adjust expectations and enjoy the rest of this season accordingly; perhaps Jake will give us a few more memories to hold onto. I've mentioned it before and it was half tongue in cheek, but I'm thinking more and more that Jake takes a stab at a career in baseball at some point. It may not be right away and it may come only after giving the NFL a real go, but I just don't see him making the adjustments necessary; I could see him adjusting to playing on a baseball diamond though.As far as PAC 10 QB's go, Locker is realistically middle of the pack in terms of production and NFL translatable skills. He is most definitely behind Luck and Foles (both JR's), but when all is said and done a few other current starters in the league may sneak past him. He should have left after last year.
just curious - why should I believe your assessment of Locker more than say... just about every NFL scout and talent evaluator? No seriously, what is is that you see that they don't or rather that you don't see that they do?ETA: full discosure: I'm a WSU grad.
I think you're basing your statement on what NFL scouts and talent evaluators said BEFORE this season. I would be dumbfounded if many of them are still riding that bandwagon.
He was #4 overall on Kiper's big board last week. He's currently #5 overall on Scout's Inc's Top 32.Locker's demise is waaaaaaaaaaay overblown on this board.
TGunz, you know as well as I do that Kiper and Scouts are glacial with that sort of thing, and when the season winds down they do wholesale adjustments after speaking to the "real" NFL scouts and evaluators.Either way, I don't think it's going out on a limb to say that Locker is no longer in the hunt for the top pick or the top QB slot. Considering Denver took Tebow in the 1st round, I wouldn't rule out someone falling in love with Locker's "potential."
