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The Joe Rogan Experience (1 Viewer)

I like his podcast 100% when he has a non-closebuddy comedian on or a boxer.  I also watch some conspiracy guys when they are on because I have a buddy that is all conspiracy all the time.  I feel I need to bone up on that stuff so I can chat with my buddy when he calls.  Rogan also has crazy random people on and I like listening for part of it sometimes.  He is a really soft interviewer, so I like hearing what the oddballs have to say.  It's weird to me hearing people getting twisted over his show.  He's not Dan Rather.  He acknowledges in almost every podcast that he's kindof an idiot.

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
Socially I probably lean slightly left, economically—I lean slightly right—and I can tell you that I have no desire to see Rogan ruined. I just enjoyed his podcast a lot better when it focused on a diversity of guests that were interesting outside of the world of politics. The last couple of years—I just feel drowned in politics and I used to love that his podcast was an interesting way to get a 2-3 hour relief from those politics every now and then. I felt like he was the king of the “non” or “slightly” political world—and now his podcast just seems like a political echo chamber of anti-California, anti-covid  stuff over and over again.  I’m clearly not the only one who feels this way.  My guess is that he’s probably losing viewers/listeners that used to listen to him because he was the answer to an overtly political world—and he’s probably replacing them with  people who lean right that  have an insatiable desire to entrench themselves in politics. 
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Those new listeners that lean right probably won't be happy with his position on voting rights, health care, free education...

 
[scooter] said:
This is a great point, one that I had considered before. I wonder how much of Rogan's narcissistic "workout bro" persona is manifested in his dalliance with Covidian pseudoscience.
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well, the plainest fact in all of this is how general fitness plays in COVID mortality rates. but no body is so much a temple that it immunizes one from the social contract.

i once saw a Bostonian actually get a ticket for spitting on the sidewalk (a law still on many books from the fight to stop the spread of tuberculosis backinaday). i lost childhood friends to polio and diptheria. there is no point to having a country if there is no point where we can put ourselves aside to join hands in defense of it.

another view on the 'workout bro' persona has to do with sublimation & compensation. most of society is based on abstractions of personal dominance issues. the games we play, the clubs we join, the identities we foster have their roots in keeping the beasts within at bay. if our hobbies, memberships become what we act violently upon, can we then claim to have progressed at all since we rose from the slime?

 
GoBirds said:
Rogan speaks and it goes up double the amount it goes down when Neil and Joni tantrum……shocker. 
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Neither had anything more than a minimal effect on the stock price - the market generally rebounded that day - just like it sunk at records levels the weeks before.

 
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Rogan's big mistake was apologizing for anything. You don't give an inch to these repugnant sons of #####es or they'll destroy you. They're not looking for an apology and they're really not even offended. They're looking to ruin all those who don't share the same viewpoint or even dares to discuss opposing viewpoints. They won't stop until he's completely deplatformed now.  His apology was sincere and and I know he meant well,  but it was a huge mistake. You give these fools the middle finger and tell them to pound sand. He sealed his own fate once he started to retreat. 

 
flapgreen said:
Rogan's big mistake was apologizing for anything. You don't give an inch to these repugnant sons of #####es or they'll destroy you. They're not looking for an apology and they're really not even offended. They're looking to ruin all those who don't share the same viewpoint or even dares to discuss opposing viewpoints. They won't stop until he's completely deplatformed now.  His apology was sincere and and I know he meant well,  but it was a huge mistake. You give these fools the middle finger and tell them to pound sand. He sealed his own fate once he started to retreat. 
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Kind of hard to do when Spotify takes down 70 episodes for where he says the n word or says something racially provocative. They may have also demanded he apologize. Plus if he is genuine about the open honestly and discourse of his show, he should apologize if that’s what he truly feels. 
 

The clips I found most interesting were from a years ago when he was making fun of anti-vaxxers and praising the medical miracle of vaccines. He warned himself of what he became. It’s really wild. 

 
flapgreen said:
Rogan's big mistake was apologizing for anything. You don't give an inch to these repugnant sons of #####es or they'll destroy you. They're not looking for an apology and they're really not even offended. They're looking to ruin all those who don't share the same viewpoint or even dares to discuss opposing viewpoints. They won't stop until he's completely deplatformed now.  His apology was sincere and and I know he meant well,  but it was a huge mistake. You give these fools the middle finger and tell them to pound sand. He sealed his own fate once he started to retreat. 
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It's never going to stop.  The Rock defended him, then condemned him when The Rock was shown the racially charged stuff.

Meanwhile The Rock has tons of stuff from the same time period that is racially charged/trans charged.  And the pitchforks are coming out for him now too.  If you weren't woke 10-15 years ago you're cancelled.  SMH.

 
facook said:
It's never going to stop.  The Rock defended him, then condemned him when The Rock was shown the racially charged stuff.

Meanwhile The Rock has tons of stuff from the same time period that is racially charged/trans charged.  And the pitchforks are coming out for him now too.  If you weren't woke 10-15 years ago you're cancelled.  SMH.
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Who is coming for The Rock?

 
Ilov80s said:
lol

The Rock should apologize though for some of the messed up stuff he said. 
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Is it only "messed up" if it's making fun of Asians and trans?  Is it only worthy of cancelling if you use the N word?  

Twitter is going after The Rock.  Where does it end?

 
GroveDiesel said:
You guys are acting like these folks said this stuff 50 years ago or when they were 15 years old.
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Sure he shouldn't have said it. Where was all this mob justice 12 years ago?

People change. So we can't accept apologies now 

I miss the pre internet days

 
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facook said:
Is it only "messed up" if it's making fun of Asians and trans?  Is it only worthy of cancelling if you use the N word?  

Twitter is going after The Rock.  Where does it end?
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The racist stuff is messed up too. I don't want either of them cancelled and I doubt either will. The Rock is a huge star and this won't even be on the radar for most people who aren't perpetually "online". Rogan has made $100 million and has a huge audience. If Spotify did break their contract, Rogan would have no problem continuing his podcast and profiting. 

 
belljr said:
Sure he shouldn't have said it. Where was all this mob justice 12 years ago?

People change. So we can't accept apologies now 

I miss the pre internet days
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People who like him will accept it. People who don't like him might not.

 
Ilov80s said:
The clips I found most interesting were from a years ago when he was making fun of anti-vaxxers and praising the medical miracle of vaccines. He warned himself of what he became. It’s really wild. 
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I would love links to these episodes 😂

 
There is nothing wrong with a sincere apology, which at first glance appears to be what Joe Rogan did.

Defiant machismo is no better than joining the feeding frenzy of criticism (I’ll take you guys’ word for it, though I still believe JRE will ultimately benefits from this controversy).

 
belljr said:
Sure he shouldn't have said it. Where was all this mob justice 12 years ago?

People change. So we can't accept apologies now 

I miss the pre internet days
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Why did he apologize?

Because people pointed it out. Because "Twitter came after him".

It's OK for him to apologize, in fact it's great, but the people that pointed out the garbage he said are a bunch of bullies? 

Something doesn't seem right there. 

 
massraider said:
Why did he apologize?

Because people pointed it out. Because "Twitter came after him".

It's OK for him to apologize, in fact it's great, but the people that pointed out the garbage he said are a bunch of bullies? 

Something doesn't seem right there. 
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I'm not a Rogan fan but digging "dirt" up from 12 years ago seems wrong but I'm more "upset" with people "going after" people that showed support. Now they dig up other people's #### because they showed some support.  Yes I fully support actions can have consequences but this whole you can't support someone because they said something so that also makes you "whatever" the internet loves to do just aggravates me.

I'm going to go yell at a cloud now

 
belljr said:
I'm more "upset" with people "going after" people that showed support. Now they dig up other people's #### because they showed some support. 
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:hifive:

Really good distinction. I agree, and maybe what separates research from a digital lynch mob? I really can't see a problem with checking someone's history if their actions warrant. But yeah, someone else tweets support, and suddenly they under the microscope? Seems slimy.  

Tell you what, the Rock tweeting his support probably led to that N-word supercut. Someone who actually listens to Rogan (not too many in these FBG threads, you can tell), was like, oh yeah, Rock? Here's ya boy....

Looking around on Twitter, and the Rock really stepped in it. But I'm sure his PR team will sort it.

 
In a nutshell if you agree with the woke political positions, you get left alone and forgiven for whatever past transgressions you may have had. Step out from the "group think" and get cancelled. 

A good example of this is Jimmy Kimmel. He gets his show on ABC and becomes Anti-Trump--so he gets support. But this is a guy who is not long removed from a ton of sexist/racist stuff on the Man Show and gets a pass. 

Social media is just a cancer in so many ways. 

 
Courtjester said:
In a nutshell if you agree with the woke political positions, you get left alone and forgiven for whatever past transgressions you may have had. Step out from the "group think" and get cancelled. 

A good example of this is Jimmy Kimmel. He gets his show on ABC and becomes Anti-Trump--so he gets support. But this is a guy who is not long removed from a ton of sexist/racist stuff on the Man Show and gets a pass. 

Social media is just a cancer in so many ways. 
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Which actually famous and significant people have been cancelled for racist comments/actions from years in the past? 

 
simey said:
Paula Deen and perhaps Jon Gruden.
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Paula Deen was fired but she also got a $75 million investment to buy back all of her own shows and start her own streaming network. She’s been on Dancing with the Stars, opened new restaurants and got a new Food Network TV show. Her cookbooks enjoyed a massive boost in sales during the controversy. 
 

Jon Gruden has been fired and is probably done with the NFL. He didn’t just use the N word though. He called the NFL commissioner multiple slurs in emails sent to NFL work email. I’m also sure the Raiders were happy to see a potential way out of that insane contract. So yeah he’s probably cancelled but there’s a lot there. 

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
LOL
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I just mean that some 4th lead on a marginally popular TV show or some 3rd rate reality TV star are certain to get fired at any whiff of controversy. It could be racism or tax fraud or domestic violence or drug problem. If they aren’t significant, their employers will cut them loose because they weren’t valuable to begin with. Just like NFL teams gave Antonio Brown a lot more second chances than they would ever give a mediocre player.

 
Anyway this has probably veered too far into political thread territory so I’ll bow out with my final thought: Rogan has a massive fan base and will be fine as long as he retains those fans. Liberals on Twitter screaming about him didn’t listen anyway and don’t really matter. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Paula Deen was fired but she also got a $75 million investment to buy back all of her own shows and start her own streaming network. She’s been on Dancing with the Stars, opened new restaurants and got a new Food Network TV show.
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She has not been reinstated on the Food Network. 

 
simey said:
She has not been reinstated on the Food Network. 
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Sorry, you are right. I thought Master Chef was a Food Network show but I guess it’s network TV. She was guess judging last season. I also see she has 400k followed on YouTube where she has a ton of content. 1.2 million followers on Twitter as well. She certainly lost a lot of sponsorships and opportunities but she still has a major reach for anyone interested in her. 

 
You would think high profile people, actors, celebrities, and politicians would have a team of people getting in front of these issues for them.  

 
Ilov80s said:
Anyway this has probably veered too far into political thread territory so I’ll bow out with my final thought: Rogan has a massive fan base and will be fine as long as he retains those fans. Liberals on Twitter screaming about him didn’t listen anyway and don’t really matter. 
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Has he always been political or right leaning that the left has been dying to attack him?  I never listened to him because I just never “got” it with him. 

 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Has he always been political or right leaning that the left has been dying to attack him?  I never listened to him because I just never “got” it with him. 
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no, but i would say he has never been concerned with any particular ideology and has always been open to letting guests with all kinds of ideas talk at length.  he previously had some blowback from his position on issues of trans people in MMA and other sports.

 
flapgreen said:
Rogan's big mistake was apologizing for anything. You don't give an inch to these repugnant sons of #####es or they'll destroy you. They're not looking for an apology and they're really not even offended. They're looking to ruin all those who don't share the same viewpoint or even dares to discuss opposing viewpoints. They won't stop until he's completely deplatformed now.  His apology was sincere and and I know he meant well,  but it was a huge mistake. You give these fools the middle finger and tell them to pound sand. He sealed his own fate once he started to retreat. 
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Apologizing was a pathetic, gutless move!!! SHOW SOME BACKBONE DUDE!!

He had no problem defending his use of the N-word FOR YEARS, to the point of being defiant in his belief in the freedom to say things that weren't PC. But now he's got a corporate gig and suddenly he bows down to the woke police? GIMME A FRIGGIN' BREAK.

I used to be a huge fan. Not anymore. He's a sellout. Owned by a corporation.

 
Roy L Fewks said:
Apologizing was a pathetic, gutless move!!! SHOW SOME BACKBONE DUDE!!

He had no problem defending his use of the N-word FOR YEARS, to the point of being defiant in his belief in the freedom to say things that weren't PC. But now he's got a corporate gig and suddenly he bows down to the woke police? GIMME A FRIGGIN' BREAK.

I used to be a huge fan. Not anymore. He's a sellout. Owned by a corporation.
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Rogan said he recognized saying the N-word was wrong some time ago and stopped doing it so why not apologize?  Times change, standards change, people can change too.

It would be the wrong hill for him to die on.

 
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Roy L Fewks said:
Apologizing was a pathetic, gutless move!!! SHOW SOME BACKBONE DUDE!!

He had no problem defending his use of the N-word FOR YEARS, to the point of being defiant in his belief in the freedom to say things that weren't PC. But now he's got a corporate gig and suddenly he bows down to the woke police? GIMME A FRIGGIN' BREAK.

I used to be a huge fan. Not anymore. He's a sellout. Owned by a corporation.
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Yeah. $100 million will do that to most people

 
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