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The middle-aged dummies are forming a band called "Blanket"! It's a cover band. (1 Viewer)

It doesn’t surprise me since he’s fanatical about 80s and 90s “alternative” music.

Live Through This is a great album, for what that’s worth.
Maybe it's just the constant barrage of anti-patriarchy lessons I got from many of my love interests in the early/mid 90s, but Courtney got demonized for behavior that was either celebrated, romanticized, or ignored when perpetrated by her male counterparts. She was an easy target because she externalized her crazy instead of hiding it like a lot of others. And yeah, she wanted to be famous, which I actually appreciate compared to the "whoa is me, fame sucks" crowd. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Was gonna go on and on but no one wants to hear it. :-)

And yes, great album. Celebrity Skin was pretty on point too.
 
Is there a list of countdowns that have been done before, or could someone easily compile one? I have a concept that could be fun in the event that krista, zegras or whoever doesn't want to jump straight back into a countdown that I'd be happy to admin, but want to make sure something similar has not been done before to avoid rehashing
This is from 7 years ago. I just havent been bothered updating it since
Here are some more:

Desert Island 15th Anniversary (2020)
Return of the Desert Island Jukebox Draft (2020)
This Is Their Best Song! Draft (2021)
Music Draft - Rolling Stone Greatest 500 Songs Garbage List (2021)
U2 Community Rankings (2021-22)
FBG Beatles Song Countdowns (combined 1-172, 1-25 lists, 1-64 lists) (2022)
FBG's Top 81 Led Zeppelin Songs (2022)
Desert Island Song Draft -- Alphabet Thievery (2023)
FBG's Top 100 Pink Floyd Songs (2023)

In addition to the things done under the MAD umbrella -- top 31 songs by US artists, top 31 songs by British Isles artists, top 31 songs by everyone else, top 31 songs by a single artist #1, top 31 songs by a single artist #2, and top 31 cover songs.
Thanks for that.
There are all the yearly drafts. Loads of the current year in music drafts.
Other artists have had rundowns.
Its a major undertaking to be thorough
I ran (so far away) from the board for years and missed so many music drafts.
For a considerable time i was in every one.
We have been doing this for a long, long time.
I didnt even start on music drafts until I think a 1982 draft happened and I took Laura Branigans Gloria as my first pick
Because we have changed board software multiple times, many will have disappeared as well.
How many pages of threads do we have?

Edit checked. 681 pages of threads but only since 2013.
All those threads I linked are gone 😭
Apricot of nothing, I heard an Aussie artist Saturday I don't think I've ever heard before named Royel Otis. I think the song's title was "Foam". What do you know about them?
Royel Otis has a cover of The Cranberries- Linger that is all over Tik Tok now. 👍
 
It doesn’t surprise me since he’s fanatical about 80s and 90s “alternative” music.

Live Through This is a great album, for what that’s worth.
Maybe it's just the constant barrage of anti-patriarchy lessons I got from many of my love interests in the early/mid 90s, but Courtney got demonized for behavior that was either celebrated, romanticized, or ignored when perpetrated by her male counterparts. She was an easy target because she externalized her crazy instead of hiding it like a lot of others. And yeah, she wanted to be famous, which I actually appreciate compared to the "whoa is me, fame sucks" crowd. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Was gonna go on and on but no one wants to hear it. :-)

And yes, great album. Celebrity Skin was pretty on point too.

OK, since you said this, I'll say it: a person I know who knows her very, very well says she is the worst person he's ever known, and it's not even close. This person is also the furthest from a sexist or misogynist of anyone I know, almost too far in the opposite direction if that's possible. It's so bad that she is the only person on the planet whom he refuses to comment on publicly, and he gets interviewed about a lot of musicians and doesn't hold back. :lol: I can't even post some of the things I've heard.

She definitely could have been demonized by some for the reasons that you say. I feel confident in saying that she is also demonized because she's an actual demon.
 

OK, since you said this, I'll say it: a person I know who knows her very, very well says she is the worst person he's ever known, and it's not even close. This person is also the furthest from a sexist or misogynist of anyone I know, almost too far in the opposite direction if that's possible. It's so bad that she is the only person on the planet whom he refuses to comment on publicly, and he gets interviewed about a lot of musicians and doesn't hold back. :lol: I can't even post some of the things I've heard.

She definitely could have been demonized by some for the reasons that you say. I feel confident in saying that she is also demonized because she's an actual demon.
That certainly sounds plausible, and for the record, I was talking more about the music press and grunge fanboys than people who actually know her. I don't think Dave Grohl, Trent Reznor, Kathleen Hanna, etc are all making stuff up. I would love to be at a dinner party with Courtney but would never want to be friends with her or anything either (which I'm sure crushes her).
 

OK, since you said this, I'll say it: a person I know who knows her very, very well says she is the worst person he's ever known, and it's not even close. This person is also the furthest from a sexist or misogynist of anyone I know, almost too far in the opposite direction if that's possible. It's so bad that she is the only person on the planet whom he refuses to comment on publicly, and he gets interviewed about a lot of musicians and doesn't hold back. :lol: I can't even post some of the things I've heard.

She definitely could have been demonized by some for the reasons that you say. I feel confident in saying that she is also demonized because she's an actual demon.
That certainly sounds plausible, and for the record, I was talking more about the music press and grunge fanboys than people who actually know her. I don't think Dave Grohl, Trent Reznor, Kathleen Hanna, etc are all making stuff up. I would love to be at a dinner party with Courtney but would never want to be friends with her or anything either (which I'm sure crushes her).

I haven't read any of their thoughts on her so don't know if it's in keeping with what I know. But I think you're better off avoiding that dinner party, anyway. :lol:
 
It doesn’t surprise me since he’s fanatical about 80s and 90s “alternative” music.

Live Through This is a great album, for what that’s worth.
Maybe it's just the constant barrage of anti-patriarchy lessons I got from many of my love interests in the early/mid 90s, but Courtney got demonized for behavior that was either celebrated, romanticized, or ignored when perpetrated by her male counterparts. She was an easy target because she externalized her crazy instead of hiding it like a lot of others. And yeah, she wanted to be famous, which I actually appreciate compared to the "whoa is me, fame sucks" crowd. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Was gonna go on and on but no one wants to hear it. :-)

And yes, great album. Celebrity Skin was pretty on point too.
So you love people who hate the patriarchy!
 

It doesn’t surprise me since he’s fanatical about 80s and 90s “alternative” music.

Live Through This is a great album, for what that’s worth.
Maybe it's just the constant barrage of anti-patriarchy lessons I got from many of my love interests in the early/mid 90s, but Courtney got demonized for behavior that was either celebrated, romanticized, or ignored when perpetrated by her male counterparts. She was an easy target because she externalized her crazy instead of hiding it like a lot of others. And yeah, she wanted to be famous, which I actually appreciate compared to the "whoa is me, fame sucks" crowd. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Was gonna go on and on but no one wants to hear it. :-)

And yes, great album. Celebrity Skin was pretty on point too.

It doesn’t surprise me since he’s fanatical about 80s and 90s “alternative” music.

Live Through This is a great album, for what that’s worth.
Maybe it's just the constant barrage of anti-patriarchy lessons I got from many of my love interests in the early/mid 90s, but Courtney got demonized for behavior that was either celebrated, romanticized, or ignored when perpetrated by her male counterparts. She was an easy target because she externalized her crazy instead of hiding it like a lot of others. And yeah, she wanted to be famous, which I actually appreciate compared to the "whoa is me, fame sucks" crowd. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Was gonna go on and on but no one wants to hear it. :-)

And yes, great album. Celebrity Skin was pretty on point too.

OK, since you said this, I'll say it: a person I know who knows her very, very well says she is the worst person he's ever known, and it's not even close. This person is also the furthest from a sexist or misogynist of anyone I know, almost too far in the opposite direction if that's possible. It's so bad that she is the only person on the planet whom he refuses to comment on publicly, and he gets interviewed about a lot of musicians and doesn't hold back. :lol: I can't even post some of the things I've heard.

She definitely could have been demonized by some for the reasons that you say. I feel confident in saying that she is also demonized because she's an actual demon.


OK, since you said this, I'll say it: a person I know who knows her very, very well says she is the worst person he's ever known, and it's not even close. This person is also the furthest from a sexist or misogynist of anyone I know, almost too far in the opposite direction if that's possible. It's so bad that she is the only person on the planet whom he refuses to comment on publicly, and he gets interviewed about a lot of musicians and doesn't hold back. :lol: I can't even post some of the things I've heard.

She definitely could have been demonized by some for the reasons that you say. I feel confident in saying that she is also demonized because she's an actual demon.
That certainly sounds plausible, and for the record, I was talking more about the music press and grunge fanboys than people who actually know her. I don't think Dave Grohl, Trent Reznor, Kathleen Hanna, etc are all making stuff up. I would love to be at a dinner party with Courtney but would never want to be friends with her or anything either (which I'm sure crushes her).
The journalist and author Neil Strauss is one of Courtney Loves best friends. They understand each other very well.
I cant recall everything he said about her, but he nailed her personality early on and gets her respect due to mutual understanding.
Like scorchy implies, she has a lot of alpha male traits, which by their true definition are either CEO or psycho traits. Probably both.
Its been 20 years since I read Strauss’s description of Courtney and how her brain works. He controls her flaws and accentuates her strengths. He is an expert at understanding people, in particular women though.
 
Happy Earth Day! 🌎 🌳🌻🦋 ♻️

It's April 21st and everybody knows today is Earth Day
Merry Christmas, Happy Birthday to whoever's being born
And now I'm trying hard to think of something
meaningful and worthy, kind of earthy
to make everybody ask themselves just
What are we doing here?
and what are we doing to her?


 
So you love people who hate the patriarchy!
Let's say you continually find yourself attracted to women who say things like "Engagement rings are a one-way symbol of male ownership, and given its outward-facing visibility to the community, even worse than asking a father's 'permission' to marry. If you ever bought me one, I'd go throw it in Lake Alice." Two things happen in your brain (1) you start to ponder the deeper and darker meaning of longstanding cultural rituals and (2) you realize you should probably marry someone who's way less angry.

The quote above actually happened and is almost verbatim. The speaker never married, but does still hold a lot of anger that all the ways she "trained" me in the truths of feminism ultimately made me a more enlightened partner for Mrs. Scorchy. Maybe this all explains my Courtney-philia.

But I swear, I just wanted to post the Joy Division cover from her podcast...
 
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Sloop John B – The Beach Boys (traditional/first known release by The Weavers)
Song: two votes – The Beach Boys (2)
Cover artist: two votes – Sloop John B (2)
Original artist: N/A
Some songs from these drafts stick with you long after being mentioned.
I have seriously been listening to this track 10 times a day over the last week. Sooo good
 
@John Maddens Lunchbox The Aussie band The Teskey Brothers played Saturday night at the Merlefest, and they were excellent. They sound like a band off the Stax label. They would fit right in with the likes of Otis Redding, etc.

@krista4 and @Uruk-Hai The Saturday Hillside Album Hour (where The Waybacks and a special guest(s) play a classic album in its entirety) was Stevie Wonder's Innervisions. Y'all would have loved it. The band also slid in some songs from artists that have passed in the last year. Some I remember being included was parts of Proud Mary/What's Love Got To Do with it (Tina), Nothing Compares to U (Sinead), Blue Sky (Dickey), Changes in Latitudes/Changes in Attitudes (Jimmy), and Waist Deep in the Big Muddy (Tommy). They included Tommy Smothers in their tribute, because the Smother Brothers often went against the networks wishes and had activist such as Joan Baez and Pete Seeger perform on their show. Pete Seeger singing Waist Deep in the Big Muddy was one of several things that helped get their show cancelled, but the Smother Brothers believed in the freedom of speech, and they wanted the artists to be able to express themselves through their music on their show. The Waybacks threw in a couple more Stevie songs once the album was finished.

Here are a few clips I found on YouTube. It sounded much better than this person's phone video, but it is all I can find.

Higher Ground

Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing/Changes in Latitudes

Waist Deep in The Big Muddy/He's Misstra Know-It-All/Isn't She Lovely/For Once In My Life
 
On a less lighthearted note, my stepmother passed away today at age 80. She and my father were completely devoted to each other and things had been very rough for her in terms of both physical and mental health since he passed away in 2020. She wanted to be with him and now she is.

Her musical tastes were probably closer to mine than my father's were -- before he met her, he mostly listened to classical. She grew up in Texas and got into blues, country and early rock and roll while living there in the '50s and early '60s. She was from Fort Worth and often saw a local musician named Delbert McClinton play at the clubs; he would go on to have hits on the pop, country and blues charts in the '70s, '80s and '90s. When I was a teen, she would play some of her Bo Diddley records, to which I would ask, why is he always singing about himself? :laugh: Another memory of those years is them playing Gordon Lightfoot's If You Could Read My Mind LP (aka Sit Down Young Stranger) and singing along to his cover of Me and Bobby McGee. She was a huge fan of Dylan and we were equally ecstatic about his career renaissance starting with Oh Mercy -- though before then they would play the Infidels cassette in the car often. She was also a big fan of the less noisy side of Neil Young, and "Harvest Moon" was one of their favorite songs; they really identified with it. They took me to my first concert, Neil Diamond at MSG in 1985.

She spent her final years back in Texas; she and my dad bought a house in Austin after my stepsister and her family moved there. She went into hospice care last year but improved enough to come out of it. One of the few fortunate post-2019 turns for her was that her improvement coincided with her 80th birthday. But in the past month, her health got worse and about a week and a half ago she went back into hospice care. She deteriorated rapidly over the weekend. But at least she is at peace now.
 
On a less lighthearted note, my stepmother passed away today at age 80. She and my father were completely devoted to each other and things had been very rough for her in terms of both physical and mental health since he passed away in 2020. She wanted to be with him and now she is.

Her musical tastes were probably closer to mine than my father's were -- before he met her, he mostly listened to classical. She grew up in Texas and got into blues, country and early rock and roll while living there in the '50s and early '60s. She was from Fort Worth and often saw a local musician named Delbert McClinton play at the clubs; he would go on to have hits on the pop, country and blues charts in the '70s, '80s and '90s. When I was a teen, she would play some of her Bo Diddley records, to which I would ask, why is he always singing about himself? :laugh: Another memory of those years is them playing Gordon Lightfoot's If You Could Read My Mind LP (aka Sit Down Young Stranger) and singing along to his cover of Me and Bobby McGee. She was a huge fan of Dylan and we were equally ecstatic about his career renaissance starting with Oh Mercy -- though before then they would play the Infidels cassette in the car often. She was also a big fan of the less noisy side of Neil Young, and "Harvest Moon" was one of their favorite songs; they really identified with it. They took me to my first concert, Neil Diamond at MSG in 1985.

She spent her final years back in Texas; she and my dad bought a house in Austin after my stepsister and her family moved there. She went into hospice care last year but improved enough to come out of it. One of the few fortunate post-2019 turns for her was that her improvement coincided with her 80th birthday. But in the past month, her health got worse and about a week and a half ago she went back into hospice care. She deteriorated rapidly over the weekend. But at least she is at peace now.
This was the piece of music I was listening to as I read this.

My condolences.
 
On tonight's Jeopardy, no one rang in on a Smiths question. (One contestant was too old, the others too young.)

NONE OF THEM WENT TO COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken: "As a GenXer, let me help you out on this one."
Or they aren't fans of the Smiths. I wouldn't be able to answer a single question about them.
 
The Midnight Special episode I am watching tonight (Jan. 25, 1974) also has a high rate of acts I've heard of: The Steve Miller Band (host), Genesis, Tim Buckley (Jeff's dad, who also died young), the post-Joe Walsh James Gang, Brownsville Station and The James Cotton Blues Band.


The show kicks off with The Joker because of course it does. Less predictable is that Miller is holding an open umbrella for some of his host segments. This was not an outdoor show.

The post-Walsh James Gang plays the "boogie rock" that was all the rage in '74. Their lead guitarist during this period was Tommy Bolin, who was nearly as revered as Walsh in certain circles.

Brownsville Station perform their original version of Smokin' in the Boys Room -- I was a little surprised that the Motley Crüe cover didn't appear in this thread. (There's that ü again.)

Miller introduced Cotton with an anecdote about how Cotton's band had blown his band off the stage at a gig they shared about two years prior. I can see how that would happen, their brand of blues is very high-energy. Though @krista4 might not enjoy all the sax solos. There are also a lot of harmonica solos, dunno how she feels about those.

Buckley performs a mesmerizing cover of Fred Neil's Dolphins. When he sings "in the se-e-ea," you can tell where Jeff got his voice from.

Miller's Joker album included a funky number called Shu Ba Da Du Ma Ma Ma; this version shows off the talents of bassist Gerald Johnson (I don't think I knew that he was left-handed).

Genesis was the last act to appear but would become by far the biggest of any of them, especially if you take solo careers into account. At this point they were a cult band at most in the US. Miller introduces them as "theater rock." Peter Gabriel is in his shaved-forehead period and is wearing some sort of bat costume. During the first half of Watcher of the Skies, he is the only member whose face we see -- everyone else gets close-ups of their hands playing their instruments. During the instrumental break toward the end, we finally see the others and Gabriel hides his face behind a tambourine. I'm sure the "boogie rock" fans who tuned in to see The James Gang and Brownsville Station had no idea what to make of this. (Or the blues fans who tuned in for Miller and Cotton.) Mike Rutherford sports a pretty sweet double-neck half-bass/half-guitar.

Miller sits in with Cotton for a cover of Jimmy Reed's Big Boss Man.

I have seen before this performance of Fly Like an Eagle, more than two years before its official release. It begins with a tease of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" and is much more spacey (all due to Miller's guitar; there were no synths in this version of the band) and psychedelic than the shape it took by 1976. The lyrics and vocals are structured differently as well. The "time keeps on slipping into the future" part isn't there and on the verses, most of the lines begin with "what about the...". The chorus is pretty much the same, though.

Wolfman Jack presented Miller with a gold record for The Joker LP, which had just passed 500,000 in sales.

The Musical Box was wikkid's favorite Genesis song. I wonder if he was watching this performance, which had to be the US TV debut of it. It's almost all there -- a little over 8 minutes of a song that runs 10:32. For this song, the camera work was more conventional and at first Gabriel didn't have a costume other than face paint. He left the stage during the keyboard and guitar solos in the middle and returned wearing an old-man mask. Which actually makes sense given the song's (very demented) storyline. He collapses and "dies" at the end.

Buckley's original Honey Man isn't anything special as a song -- people at the time might have called it "jive" -- but his vocal is.

Miller closes things out with Sugar Babe, the first track on the Joker album. Here we can see where the sound of "Rock 'N Me" and "Jet Airliner" came from. (His label should have made this the second single from the album, but they didn't.)
 
@krista4 and @Uruk-Hai The Saturday Hillside Album Hour (where The Waybacks and a special guest(s) play a classic album in its entirety) was Stevie Wonder's Innervisions. Y'all would have loved it. The band also slid in some songs from artists that have passed in the last year. Some I remember being included was parts of Proud Mary/What's Love Got To Do with it (Tina), Nothing Compares to U (Sinead), Blue Sky (Dickey), Changes in Latitudes/Changes in Attitudes (Jimmy), and Waist Deep in the Big Muddy (Tommy). They included Tommy Smothers in their tribute, because the Smother Brothers often went against the networks wishes and had activist such as Joan Baez and Pete Seeger perform on their show. Pete Seeger singing Waist Deep in the Big Muddy was one of several things that helped get their show cancelled, but the Smother Brothers believed in the freedom of speech, and they wanted the artists to be able to express themselves through their music on their show. The Waybacks threw in a couple more Stevie songs once the album was finished.

Here are a few clips I found on YouTube. It sounded much better than this person's phone video, but it is all I can find.

Higher Ground

Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing/Changes in Latitudes

Waist Deep in The Big Muddy/He's Misstra Know-It-All/Isn't She Lovely/For Once In My Life

I'm just catching up on the thread after not being around much for a week. Love these! They really hit that deep groove on both Higher Ground and For Once in My Life.

On a separate note, I'm really sorry to hear about your stepmother, @Pip's Invitation
 
Whoa. Got some very bad news about a friend of the thread. OH’s friend whose name comes up in these threads has died unexpectedly. Don’t think it’s public yet, though. Terrible day.
Krista, my condolences. So sad.

Thanks GB. OH got the call early this morning and has been a wreck. We leave Tuesday for our long-planned Chicago trip, and this really changes the tenor of that.
 

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