Mister CIA
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Finally, I have shaped a top-31 from my top 60 or 70. Just have to sort and then wait to discover the inevitable last five IN.
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The middle-aged dummies are forming a band called "Blanket"! It's a cover band. (1 Viewer)
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Pip's Invitation
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rockaction
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I was going to chime in with the exact same song but I was waiting for that final moment. Plus, spoilers.
krista4
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Also, we've had enough discussion of the eligibility requirements in the thread (whether or not anyone read it) that I'm not going to do any serious vetting of picks this time. Unless something immediately strikes me as ineligible, it's up to you to self-police. Fly, little birds, fly!
zamboni
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Charlie Steiner
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This is going to sound bad on my part, but I haven't haven't submitted my list yet because I haven't figured out how to post spotify links; I've only posted youtube links in previous countdowns. I do have youtube links for the ones that aren't on spotify, do you want youtube links for all of them instead?Lists are starting to pick up steam. Received three this morning. At some point I'm going to need to start collating the data and coming up with contest questions. Oh, and do my own list.
krista4
Footballguy
This is going to sound bad on my part, but I haven't haven't submitted my list yet because I haven't figured out how to post spotify links; I've only posted youtube links in previous countdowns. I do have youtube links for the ones that aren't on spotify, do you want youtube links for all of them instead?Lists are starting to pick up steam. Received three this morning. At some point I'm going to need to start collating the data and coming up with contest questions. Oh, and do my own list.
Either one is fine, so if easier to send me Youtube links, just do that. Hawks and/or KP will make the playlists on Spotify but are good at looking for the songs. They'll find them if they're there; otherwise that song just won't be on the daily playlist.
Galileo
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What is the difference? It is just a cut and paste maneuver as with any link. Or, are you saying you are not on Spotify and thus don't have access to the links there? If you are on Spotify and just haven't found the links, click the three dots to the right next to the song's run time...go to share...copy song link.This is going to sound bad on my part, but I haven't haven't submitted my list yet because I haven't figured out how to post spotify links; I've only posted youtube links in previous countdowns. I do have youtube links for the ones that aren't on spotify, do you want youtube links for all of them instead?Lists are starting to pick up steam. Received three this morning. At some point I'm going to need to start collating the data and coming up with contest questions. Oh, and do my own list.
Charlie Steiner
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I have a spotify account and you just taught me something.What is the difference? It is just a cut and paste maneuver as with any link. Or, are you saying you are not on Spotify and thus don't have access to the links there? If you are on Spotify and just haven't found the links, click the three dots to the right next to the song's run time...go to share...copy song link.This is going to sound bad on my part, but I haven't haven't submitted my list yet because I haven't figured out how to post spotify links; I've only posted youtube links in previous countdowns. I do have youtube links for the ones that aren't on spotify, do you want youtube links for all of them instead?Lists are starting to pick up steam. Received three this morning. At some point I'm going to need to start collating the data and coming up with contest questions. Oh, and do my own list.
rockaction
Footballguy
I have a spotify account and you just taught me something.
You can also just right click on the song. No need for the three dots, even, though that's the way to go if you don't have right click.
krista4
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I have a spotify account and you just taught me something.What is the difference? It is just a cut and paste maneuver as with any link. Or, are you saying you are not on Spotify and thus don't have access to the links there? If you are on Spotify and just haven't found the links, click the three dots to the right next to the song's run time...go to share...copy song link.This is going to sound bad on my part, but I haven't haven't submitted my list yet because I haven't figured out how to post spotify links; I've only posted youtube links in previous countdowns. I do have youtube links for the ones that aren't on spotify, do you want youtube links for all of them instead?Lists are starting to pick up steam. Received three this morning. At some point I'm going to need to start collating the data and coming up with contest questions. Oh, and do my own list.
It took me embarrassingly long with my Spotify account to learn this, too.
rockaction
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I'll third that. There is no question too stupid to ask when it comes to the internet, I've found. Can't find out how to intuitively use an interface? Ask those there before you. That's how I figured it out finally.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I still have no idea how to do a playlist.
rockaction
Footballguy
Go to your home screen. Look to the left of the home screen and right-click on the "Playlists" tab that should be there. You can then "Create Playlist" from that option. You should then be brought to a page that says "My Playlist" and be given a search prompt whereby you can add songs to a blank list.
Are you using your phone? I'm talking desktop here.
Are you using your phone? I'm talking desktop here.
Mrs. Rannous
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I'm sitting at the computer now. This sounds doable. Thanks.
We have a pretty major computer set-up here. Mr R has a Nerdtron 6000 monitor. It's very nice.
KarmaPolice
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Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet?? 
Dr. Octopus
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we're covering a lot of ground here.Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet??
rockaction
Footballguy
LOL.
I just heard a cover that might qualify while going back over songs for our '23 draft. I think I found one at least for that, if not this.
Pip's Invitation
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Just pick the bong up if you’re getting impatient.Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet??
New Binky the Doormat
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Done- now what?Just pick the bong up if you’re getting impatient.Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet??
I could work on my next wave of playlists. I think I have about 20 finished so far and 30 others in the works.
At this rate I am going to have to do my own MAD31 thread of all my playlists. Or get about 20 aliases.
Mrs. Rannous
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Have you considered decaf?Done- now what?Just pick the bong up if you’re getting impatient.Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet??
I could work on my next wave of playlists. I think I have about 20 finished so far and 30 others in the works.
At this rate I am going to have to do my own MAD31 thread of all my playlists. Or get about 20 aliases.
Eephus
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rockaction
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When I used to smoke homegrown sativa I could have sworn it was caffeinated. Holy smoke.
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KarmaPolice
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Lol. I have a lot of time to listen to music when I stop listening to 100s of hours of podcasts. Just been enjoying deep diving into bands and making playlists for people. The college kids at work have gotten me making some too as we talk about music.Have you considered decaf?Done- now what?Just pick the bong up if you’re getting impatient.Wait, this thing hasn't even started yet??
I could work on my next wave of playlists. I think I have about 20 finished so far and 30 others in the works.
At this rate I am going to have to do my own MAD31 thread of all my playlists. Or get about 20 aliases.
As I joked with rock, I am in a better mood this last year, especially at work when I listen to much more music, so I've been embracing it. Covers is where I draw the line though.
Dr. Octopus
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This doesn't really make sense to me, as "covers" isn't really a genre or any particular sound. They can cover all musical grounds and many times you may not even know it's a cover.
Do you dislike artists that don't write their own songs? I don't see a discernable difference.
Mister CIA
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One particular song in my playlist is the source of many covers, and while running down my favorite cover of said tune, I discovered it too was a cover.
KarmaPolice
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Dislike is a strong word, but I think about them differently, yes. Yes, I realize there are songs I love now that I don't know is a cover. Yes, I openly admit I am very inconsistent in my likes/dislikes for covers, but often it is a very strong reaction in the negative, as was the case in the MAD31s Part 2. Yes, I will **** off from this thread, sorry. I was bored today waiting at a car appointment and do plan on staying away while this is going on. I just thought it had started as was curious on what was taken as I waited.
Dr. Octopus
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Yeah, I wasn't in anyway saying that you couldn't express that or should leave the thread - I was just trying to understand it.
Doug B
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One thing I like about covers is that listening to them is like following a thread through music history. I've enjoyed many trips down the rabbit hole tracking down prior versions of favorite songs. The converse as well, sometimes -- seeing how modern artists interpret older works.
zamboni
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Guess we won’t be seeing KP in a Barry Manilow mosh pit any time soon.
rockaction
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I'll throw my hat into the ring here. Unless a cover takes a wildly different arrangement or is from a different genre, I often find myself saying, "So what? You didn't write it!" That is, unless the performance is somehow noteworthy. I have a few similarly-arranged, similar-genre covers that made it into the Top 31 based on performance.
But that doesn't mean I don't like covers. Like 'em just fine. Just think that unless there's something that stands out about them in a good way then there's really no point in listening. As far as reasons for playing them, I dig when the artist just loves the song or seeks to take an underappreciated, unloved song and bring it to the fore. I understand and dig that, too.
But a perfunctory cover to appease a label or an audience? No thanks.
But that doesn't mean I don't like covers. Like 'em just fine. Just think that unless there's something that stands out about them in a good way then there's really no point in listening. As far as reasons for playing them, I dig when the artist just loves the song or seeks to take an underappreciated, unloved song and bring it to the fore. I understand and dig that, too.
But a perfunctory cover to appease a label or an audience? No thanks.
Dr. Octopus
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I just lump covers into the general bucket of songs and I either like it or don’t. I don’t particularly like or dislike the concept - I just consider them songs and people “covering” other people’s songs has been the way since the beginning.
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KarmaPolice
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No, I am self policing because I know I can get negative, and I don't want to ruin the mood in a music thread. Sorry if it felt like it was directed to you. I was planning to stay away once it got going officially.
Rock's post above echoes my thoughts. I do really like some covers, say Hard to Handle. But they are never something I seek, and never seem to be my favorites when I rank songs from an artist. A funny example is The Black Keys, I love them and listen to most of the albums start to finish. When I was working on a playlist for them a few months, after I was looking on wiki I seemed to naturally avoid their covers on the early albums, even when I didn't know they were covers.
I joked about Deep Purple a couple weeks ago, but that is an example where I have very negative reaction - when I feel a cover song sticks out like a sore thumb on an album and feels like a $ decision more than a musical one. This is how I feel about Dino Jr's version of Just Like Heaven. Not terrible, I would just rather not have that on the album or a different song in it's place. It also feels like when I REALLY dislike a song, chances are it's a cover. There are several that are loved, and I expect to be very popular in here, hence my self enforced ban.
The ones I really like are either: not a song I knew beforehand, improve on something from the original (IMO, of course), or take it to a weird or interesting place (but that is also risky as well). I cited Nina Simone's version of To Love Somebody as one that qualifies for #2 there. That groove and her voice improved on the original quite a bit to my ears. A weird one I always liked was Tori Amos' version of Raining Blood. My preference is that covers are for soundtracks, b-sides, live shows, or albums like Nativity in Black where it's a tribute album.
rockaction
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There is one I will fight you over, so that ban is probably a good thing.
I don't need to wink at you to avoid misunderstanding, do I?
rockaction
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I actually thought of a songwriter that might rival the one you were referring to earlier in the thread (I think I know who that is) if we're going by universally loved and off-the-beaten-path covers.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Hmmm,...that intrigues me. You will have to let me know when one of their songs comes up.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
My favorite covers tend to be ones that are different enough from the original but keep enough of what made the song good in the first place. Most of my list can fit that description in some way. There is one song whose cover is not all that different from the original and I will explain why I picked it when it comes up.
krista4
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Surprisingly I read and understood that.
I just thought you may have had greater clarity on how you are going to approach listing them.
The balance of people wanting to take their time going through playlists and people getting bored is a fine one.
I dont have any answers as to what works best.
Eephus
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Does the upside down guy have anything to add?
krista4
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Perhaps you didn't understand it if you thought I'd have more clarity now, since the gist of it was that we'll play it by ear ("see how it shakes out in terms of everyone's ability to listen").
You're right that it can be a tough balance. We'll see how it goes. I also might not have the time to post every day in any case.
JMLs secret identity
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No
Uruk-Hai
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Covers are the lifeblood of why music matters. They're why - whether you know it or not - you have your favorite artist(s).
As is usual for me, I blame Rolling Stone for this. Their take on music history has become so ingrained into music-listeners DNA, they don't even know it's there. A song isn't "real" unless it's written and performed by some tortured soul in his/her mom's basement.
Screw that. Give me a good performance and an interesting twist on something already known. Or, just perform a really good song. "Standards" are standards for a reason.
As is usual for me, I blame Rolling Stone for this. Their take on music history has become so ingrained into music-listeners DNA, they don't even know it's there. A song isn't "real" unless it's written and performed by some tortured soul in his/her mom's basement.
Screw that. Give me a good performance and an interesting twist on something already known. Or, just perform a really good song. "Standards" are standards for a reason.
zamboni
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I'm sure we'll all encounter familiar versions of songs that we didn't even realize were covers - that's also part of the fun of this countdown.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I think I have a couple that, while both the cover artist and the covered artist are really famous, offer up something different.
I left off some of the most famous covers. Not to be a snob, but because I know they'll get plenty of play from others.
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