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The Nick Foles era (3 Viewers)

I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
we see this all the time. Sometimes the qb will even play well for a whole season (derek anderson, josh freeman). Consistency is the key to success in the NFL.

 
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
Because he wasn't playing the Giants or Bucs?
Exactly, this looks like Kevin Kolb 2.0, I know it is only one game but good god no Demarcus Ware, and everyone has been shredding the Dallas Defense. Before the game today the Dallas defense was 26th against the pass and giving up almost 400 yards a game and none of it was "garbage time" like you can say in some of the Denver games.

 
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
Because he wasn't playing the Giants or Bucs?
Exactly, this looks like Kevin Kolb 2.0, I know it is only one game but good god no Demarcus Ware, and everyone has been shredding the Dallas Defense. Before the game today the Dallas defense was 26th against the pass and giving up almost 400 yards a game and none of it was "garbage time" like you can say in some of the Denver games.
For comparison, what was the TB defense ranked in these stats prior to last week? IIRC, TB was a test for Foles. Their offense is bad, their defense is not. People keep downplaying the TB game, but their defense is/was pretty good.

 
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
Because he wasn't playing the Giants or Bucs?
Exactly, this looks like Kevin Kolb 2.0, I know it is only one game but good god no Demarcus Ware, and everyone has been shredding the Dallas Defense. Before the game today the Dallas defense was 26th against the pass and giving up almost 400 yards a game and none of it was "garbage time" like you can say in some of the Denver games.
For comparison, what was the TB defense ranked in these stats prior to last week? IIRC, TB was a test for Foles. Their offense is bad, their defense is not. People keep downplaying the TB game, but their defense is/was pretty good.
Look at the Tampa defense this week though

 
He was obviously not right all game. Looked like a Pop Warner QB out there. The throw to a wide-open Avant in the endzone that was intially ruled an INT was one of the worst I've ever seen.

 
And the Nick Foles era is over
Goes to show you how bad the Tampa Bay defense is that allowed Foles to look so good. A depleted Atlanta offense passed all over them early on, it goes to show you there's a lot more to Qbing than a good performance against a bad defense.

Mike Vick is the best QB currently on their roster and should start when healthy, he also frees things up for McCoy. A healthy Mike Vick could have given the Cowboys much more to worry about on defense and would have made today a much closer game. Regardless, he wasn't healthy enough to play today so it wasn't just a coach's decision not to play Vick today.

 
So much hype on Foles this week from EVERY FF site. This was supposed to be the biggest shootout ever. Wow. How disappointing and so woefully wrong.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Jimbo Slice said:
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
You evaluate QBs on a weekly basis apparently. There is no such thing as a longterm investment.
LOL, you have a lot of nerve coming in here with attitude tonight. You, my friend are the shirt a lot of people will be pointing to tonight.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Jimbo Slice said:
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
You evaluate QBs on a weekly basis apparently. There is no such thing as a longterm investment.
LOL, you have a lot of nerve coming in here with attitude tonight. You, my friend are the shirt a lot of people will be pointing to tonight.
Settle down, bro. Shah went out on a limb and made a prediction about a player that up until this week looked pretty good. It could still come out true. So why don't you calm down before you make yourself look stupid if Foles lights it up in a few weeks.

 
Foles did a pretty amazing thing this week. Made me regret benching Kaep. At least I wasn't a poor RG3 owner.

I hope the "Starting Foles over _____" thread continues. It should help me find some nice QB value on FanDuel.

 
Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Jimbo Slice said:
I didn't see the game, but what was the problem? How can be so terrible after being so good last week?
You evaluate QBs on a weekly basis apparently. There is no such thing as a longterm investment.
LOL, you have a lot of nerve coming in here with attitude tonight. You, my friend are the shirt a lot of people will be pointing to tonight.
If it's about one game then Shady sucks, the line can't block, Desean stinks, Dallas defense is good, Phi defense is decent and Chip can't call good plays. Thanks for the hindsight. I'll still defend Foles LONGTERM. I'm sorry I don't want to base his entire career on one week. In the grand scheme of things it's just that, ONE GAME. Just like him winning OPOW was just ONE GAME. For everone that said they needed to see more of Foles, one game is a smaller sample size than you had to work with before. He could be the healthy guy this week, beat NY and OAK, and have a 4-1 record pretty fast.

If you did read what I said this week, you would have read about me questioning what everyones reaction to a dud would be and me advocating buying Vick. So point at the guy that did 4 Mike Vick deals this week all you want. :violin:

 
Foles' struggles yesterday had nothing to do with the defense he faced. It wouldn't have mattered who he was playing. He had time most of the time- he was simply missing wide open players. There was something physically wrong with him. We see QBs crumble under a relentless rush, or struggle without help from a recieving corps, but this was different. And it was surprising, because Foles' greatest (some say only) real attribute was his accuracy. His passes looked like Vick on a bad day.

Every QB, no matter how good, has a rare day when they are just OFF, and every other pass is 3 or 4 feet from where it should be. A day that's simply atypical and unexplainable. Perhaps this was Foles' day. It might kee him from dethroning Vick right now, but the kid still has talent and will get another shot at some point (probably this year after Vick gets hurt again). Don't be shocked if his next start is a great one.

 
Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.
This is true...and is even more unbelievably odd than FOles' performance. The Eagles home record has been terrible ever since they opened the Linc. The last 3 years, they've been much better on the road than at home, and it makes no sense.

 
Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.
This is true...and is even more unbelievably odd than FOles' performance. The Eagles home record has been terrible ever since they opened the Linc. The last 3 years, they've been much better on the road than at home, and it makes no sense.
Maybe the Philly fans' strategy of motivating their team by booing them on isn't working so well.

 
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Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.
This is true...and is even more unbelievably odd than FOles' performance. The Eagles home record has been terrible ever since they opened the Linc. The last 3 years, they've been much better on the road than at home, and it makes no sense.
Maybe the Philly fans' strategy of motivating their team by booing them on isn't working so well.
Cheap shot. Every team gets booed when they suck. Even worse, some 'fans' cheer when their struggling players get hurt. What are the odds Eli gets booed tonight?

 
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Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.
This is true...and is even more unbelievably odd than FOles' performance. The Eagles home record has been terrible ever since they opened the Linc. The last 3 years, they've been much better on the road than at home, and it makes no sense.
Maybe the Philly fans' strategy of motivating their team by booing them on isn't working so well.
Cheap shot. Every team gets booed when they suck. Even worse, some 'fans' cheer when their struggling players get hurt. What are the odds Eli gets booed tonight?
Ask Cassel or Schaub
 
Wow. Just being average would be one thing. But that was brutal.

Did i see the stat right at the end of the game? Phi has lost 9 home games in a row? Holy balls.
This is true...and is even more unbelievably odd than FOles' performance. The Eagles home record has been terrible ever since they opened the Linc. The last 3 years, they've been much better on the road than at home, and it makes no sense.
Maybe the Philly fans' strategy of motivating their team by booing them on isn't working so well.
Cheap shot. Every team gets booed when they suck. Even worse, some 'fans' cheer when their struggling players get hurt. What are the odds Eli gets booed tonight?
Ask Cassel or Schaub
Or Chad Pennington, or Tim Couch, or Derek Anderson...

 
Was this groin injury reported anywhere before the game? I honestly don't remember hearing a word about it until it was way too late.
If it was it was pretty quiet, never heard about it until in-game and then it all made sense. He was moving very poorly and when it came time to deliver his throws his mechanics were a mess, helps explain his horrendous accuracy.

 
Typical Hype for a player that didn't deserve it, from the media/FFL sites to a good majority of Philly fans..

Same goes for the bashing of Vick an the old fat coach not being deserved, but is/was the flavor to do so.. :)

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What's the old saying? Oh yah,

Be careful what you wish for.......

 
Was this groin injury reported anywhere before the game? I honestly don't remember hearing a word about it until it was way too late.
He popped on the injury report last week.
The groin was mentioned on the injury report on Thursday the 10th, but he was listed as a full participant in that Friday's practice and was probable for last Sunday's game.He was not listed on the injury report at all for Week 7.

 
Typical Hype for a player that didn't deserve it, from the media/FFL sites to a good majority of Philly fans..

Same goes for the bashing of Vick an the old fat coach not being deserved, but is/was the flavor to do so.. :)

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What's the old saying? Oh yah,

Be careful what you wish for.......
You follow Marcus Vick?
 
Was this groin injury reported anywhere before the game? I honestly don't remember hearing a word about it until it was way too late.
If it was it was pretty quiet, never heard about it until in-game and then it all made sense. He was moving very poorly and when it came time to deliver his throws his mechanics were a mess, helps explain his horrendous accuracy.
I certainly missed it. Sucks, as I'm sure most who started him may have had other/better viable options.

 
Steel Curtainrod said:
MAC_32 said:
Was this groin injury reported anywhere before the game? I honestly don't remember hearing a word about it until it was way too late.
If it was it was pretty quiet, never heard about it until in-game and then it all made sense. He was moving very poorly and when it came time to deliver his throws his mechanics were a mess, helps explain his horrendous accuracy.
I certainly missed it. Sucks, as I'm sure most who started him may have had other/better viable options.
I didn't because Pryor was on bye, but I definitely would have tweaked my Fanduel lineup a bit. Not gonna say it cost me the win because I'm sure others would have made changes too, but Peyton and Terrance Williams would have been the way to go instead of Foles and Welker.

 
Rotoworld:

Nick Foles (concussion) has not been cleared to practice yet.
It suggests Foles' concussion is not mild, and it takes on more importance in the wake of Michael Vick aggravating his hamstring injury against the Giants. As the Philadelphia Inquirer notes, it's "quite conceivable" that Matt Barkley starts in Week 9. Foles will be in a race to get cleared.

Source: Zach Berman on Twitter
 
Rotoworld:

Nick Foles (concussion) has not been cleared to practice yet.
It suggests Foles' concussion is not mild, and it takes on more importance in the wake of Michael Vick aggravating his hamstring injury against the Giants. As the Philadelphia Inquirer notes, it's "quite conceivable" that Matt Barkley starts in Week 9. Foles will be in a race to get cleared.

Source: Zach Berman on Twitter
Iggles are screwed.

 
So everyone is out on Foles after one bad game and a concussion? Barkley isn't ready, Vick looks like he could be out multiple weeks, and Foles has generally produced from a fantasy perspective. I'm considering picking him up just to keep him away from QBs needy teams I might face down the stretch, who could use Foles in a good matchup

 

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