The Nick Foles era (5 Viewers)

[Amused to Death]

The question is which Foles is the one moving forward? The one last week or the one this week. That's what I'd like to hear discussed. He was I Jared last week. Perhaps it was worse than we thought.

Exactly. His inconsistency can be a fantasy football team's killer.

Keep in mind he's only started 9 NFL games. Out of those 9, I think there's only been 2 really bad starts.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RoobCSN: Foles is first QB in NFL history to throw 7 touchdowns before end of third quarter. Joe Kapp and Adrian Burk had 6 & 7th in fourth quarter.

 

[ShaHBucks]

At the haters who are saying that 7 TD's against a "bad" defense is just a "meh" type of game.

Lmao

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@EliotShorrParks: Foles has eclipsed a quarterback rating of 100 in three of his last four games #Eagles

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Connskins looking like a total jack*** in this thread.

What? I'm the only one making a reasoned argument for anything that's being discussed.

All I'm getting back is "well the rankings (sorted by yardage allowed and points allowed) say they were top-10."

Nobody thinks that defenses paired with mediocre offenses sometimes give up less points and yards precisely because their own offense isn't forcing opposing teams to keep up? Like I said, I saw this for years with the Redskins, where the yardage/points allowed rankings said we had a top-10 defense but in reality our offense just didn't force anybody to "keep up" by continuing to put the pedal to the metal for four quarters.

I've said all of this while at the same time saying that I'm a Foles fan and think he performed great in this game.

 

[Amused to Death]

Connskins looking like a total jack*** in this thread.

What? I'm the only one making a reasoned argument for anything that's being discussed.

All I'm getting back is "well the rankings (sorted by yardage allowed and points allowed) say they were top-10."

Nobody thinks that defenses paired with mediocre offenses sometimes give up less points and yards precisely because their own offense isn't forcing opposing teams to keep up? Like I said, I saw this for years with the Redskins, where the yardage/points allowed rankings said we had a top-10 defense but in reality our offense just didn't force anybody to "keep up" by continuing to put the pedal to the metal for four quarters.

I've said all of this while at the same time saying that I'm a Foles fan and think he performed great in this game.

You're injecting your opinion in your evaluation. The stats are what actually happened.

 

[renesauz]

It's gonna be tough to negatively spin Foles performance this week but im sure some posters here will find a way. Good luck.

This defense is bad. Let's be clear about that.But he's playing great.

They were top 10 coming into this game.

You thought a whiny Skins fan would consider facts?

Hi. Nick Foles played a great game today and tore apart the Raiders defense. I'm not withholding credit or being "whiny".

Yes you are, and yes you are.

Foles tied an NFL record today, with a ridiculous completion percentage. He was efficient and made a lot of great plays, and probably laid claim to that starting QB job going forward too.He also played against a bad defense.

Those things can all be true at once, even coming from a Redskins fan.

Again top 10 before today. 12th in scoring. So yea not that bad.

But Foles played well against them so they suck

Has nothing to do with that. I like Foles. Tried to trade for him in my dynasty leagues while Vick was still healthy, failed in all of them and hated it. Again. I like Foles.You honestly believe that the Raiders have a top-10 defense in the NFL? Stats lie, and this is common knowledge. Defenses on teams with mediocre offenses generally are ranked highly in standard yardage/points rankings because opposing offenses don't have to get into a shoot-out and pass all over them. If you think that's a talented, top-10 defense that Foles just ripped apart, okay. I'll drop it.

But I have a feeling that if before the game started someone had argued against a good Foles outing by saying he was playing a top-10 defense, you would have laughed and thought that was ridiculous. Except now it helps you feel even better about Foles' performance (and you should be feeling really good about it as it is).

I think there's a middle ground here between "top 10" (which nobody seems to be saying), and "suck". While you are correct that defensive stats are misleading with a weak offense, Oakland isn't a bottom 8 or ten unit either. They are an average (or slightly below average) unit that just got OBLITERATED at home.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I think there's a middle ground here between "top 10" (which nobody seems to be saying), and "suck". While you are correct that defensive stats are misleading with a weak offense, Oakland isn't a bottom 8 or ten unit either. They are an average (or slightly below average) unit that just got OBLITERATED at home.

Alright, I can buy that. Maybe I overstated my case originally by using the word "bad" instead of a less black-and-white term like "below average" or "bottom half of the league", which is probably closer to correct. My main point was that they aren't a true top-10 unit, they aren't good, and I shouldn't have stated that they are "bad", the natural opposite of good, to communicate that if I didn't mean they were a bottom-10 unit

I'm just glad you acknowledged my point that a team with a weak offense generally has inflated defensive stats, giving them an artificially high ranking when yardage allowed and points allowed are the major factors. I just couldn't believe that no one's ever head of this, like the stats are absolute truth.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

34.3pts (NYG - 31.4 minutes prorated to 60 minutes)
33.0pts (Tampa)
6.5pts (Dallas)
49.7pts (Oakland)

Which one is the outlier?

 

[GoBirds]

Connskins looking like a total jack*** in this thread.

What? I'm the only one making a reasoned argument for anything that's being discussed.

All I'm getting back is "well the rankings (sorted by yardage allowed and points allowed) say they were top-10."

Nobody thinks that defenses paired with mediocre offenses sometimes give up less points and yards precisely because their own offense isn't forcing opposing teams to keep up? Like I said, I saw this for years with the Redskins, where the yardage/points allowed rankings said we had a top-10 defense but in reality our offense just didn't force anybody to "keep up" by continuing to put the pedal to the metal for four quarters.

I've said all of this while at the same time saying that I'm a Foles fan and think he performed great in this game.

Your argument is horrible, if their Defense is so poor then who else put up 7 TD's against them this year?

 

[Raider Nation]

Riley Cooper is never coming out of my lineup again when Foles starts, I'll tell you that. He is basically useless with Vick.

 

[Das Boot]

At the haters who are saying that 7 TD's against a "bad" defense is just a "meh" type of game.

Using their logic, I'm kind of surprised we don't see mid-tier QBs putting up 5+ TDs all the time against lower third defenses.

Seems like it should be happening pretty regularly.

 

[agame2323]

Like I said on Thursday... expect 300-400 yards and roughly 6-7 TDs from Foles

 

[Insein]

At the haters who are saying that 7 TD's against a "bad" defense is just a "meh" type of game.

Using their logic, I'm kind of surprised we don't see mid-tier QBs putting up 5+ TDs all the time against lower third defenses.

Seems like it should be happening pretty regularly.

Or perceived lower third defenses with top third stats.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Has a single person in here said that it was a "meh" performance?

 

[Insein]

Has a single person in here said that it was a "meh" performance?

When you say "let's remember this is a bad defense" you're implying that this was not a feat. Especially when the stats would say you're wrong on the assessment of said defense.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Has a single person in here said that it was a "meh" performance?

When you say "let's remember this is a bad defense" you're implying that this was not a feat. Especially when the stats would say you're wrong on the assessment of said defense.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Has a single person in here said that it was a "meh" performance?

When you say "let's remember this is a bad defense" you're implying that this was not a feat. Especially when the stats would say you're wrong on the assessment of said defense.

You see, the cool thing about a message board is that you don't have to guess at what I'm implying. You can actually read the last two pages and see all of the praise that I heaped on Foles. While also making the point that Oakland's defense isn't as good as the rankings indicate. Foles can still have had a great game, even if it wasn't against a great defense. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

"Let's remember Foles wasn't exactly playing against the '85 Bears today"

 

[ShaHBucks]

"Let's remember Foles wasn't exactly playing against the '85 Bears today"

I couldn't tell

 

[The Kerminator]

"Let's remember Foles wasn't exactly playing against the '85 Bears today"

Might as well have been. Even at their age I think they could have played better than Oakland's D.

 

[msudaisy26]

Hard to get a read on this guy. He goes out and kills Oakland, and Tampa, but throws up a dud against the Cowboys and even Ponder could move the ball on them. So I am guessing next week he will go 30 for 35 for 350 and 8 touchdowns or 12 for 29 for 90 yards and nothing.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

Oakland's DBs fell over more often than the Washington Generals.

 

[Insein]

Hard to get a read on this guy. He goes out and kills Oakland, and Tampa, but throws up a dud against the Cowboys and even Ponder could move the ball on them. So I am guessing next week he will go 30 for 35 for 350 and 8 touchdowns or 12 for 29 for 90 yards and nothing.

For those that follow the team it's pretty clear Foles has talent. I've been on record as wanting to see what he has all off season. I wanted him to start this whole year to find out because he showed flashes. If he sucked well no big deal go draft another guy. If he was good but not Kelly's fit well then we have trade value and then go draft another guy. If on the slim chance he becomes elite, you keep him as your guy.

Chalk the Dallas game up as the outlier. He is a young kid that had his whole future right there in his face. The starting job against a bitter rival for first place at home. He simply choked in the moment which was so surprising since he's main attribute has been poise. Today was just one of those snowball games. I think he's closer to the Tampa game for a realistic outlook. A potential top 10 talent. With that in mind and if he keeps playing this way in Kelly's offense, I don't see how Chip doesn't keep him around for a few more years and drafts a QB in the 3rd or 4th to grow as a backup.

 

[Insein]

BTW, mad props to Shahbucks on his continued support of Foles. He called this one from the beginning. You can't deny a guy who throws 7 tds in a game has talent to be a starter. It doesn't matter who it's against.

 

[msommer]

BTW, mad props to Shahbucks on his continued support of Foles. He called this one from the beginning. You can't deny a guy who throws 7 tds in a game has talent to be a starter. It doesn't matter who it's against.

Didn't Matt Flynn throw 6 TDs in one game and have since been shown not to be starting qb material?

In no way am I suggesting that Foles is bad like Flynn, but in isolation this game may not mean much - or are we suggesting that Riley Cooper is Randy Moss incarnate while we are at it?

Nick Foles has done well when he has started and in relief. It is to be hoped he can turn that into a career and not just a few meaningless million dollar contracts like Flynn, Kolb and Cassell

 

[jesseasi]

Been a full time Foles believer since the beginning. I believe he can be the best QB from his class (YES!) Better than Luck, WIlson, and RG3.

What I can't stand is how the national media loves to blast Foles every chance they get yet continue to give Wilson, Luck, and RG3 free passes. How many bad games are those three QB's allowed to have? Foles has one bad game and he is garbage?

Foles has played the equivalent of about 10 games in the NFL. That includes coming into games cold to relieve an injured Mike Vick.

19 TD included 2 more on the ground.

5 INT

Luck's 1st 10 games

12 TD

12 INT

3 Games without any TD's. (Two weeks ago Foles was garbage for having one bad game without a TD) Luck just a few weeks ago went into San Diego and threw up all over himself. 0TD game, 1INT. - Yet he gets a free pass.

Wilson 1st 10 games

15 TD

8 INT

2 Games without any TD's. And has clearly regressed this year in terms of passing.

RG3 1st 10 games

12 TD

3 INT

6 Scores on the ground. No arguing RG3's impact over his 1st 10 games. Unfortunately injuries may have slowed him down as he does not look at all like he did last year.

Unfortunately - I don't think anyone in mainstream media believed in Foles. It takes crazy days like today where he throws for 7TD's - yet I have a feeling if he goes out next week and has a mediocre game - the national media will start talking about Vick coming back or when Barkley will get his shot.

 

[sporthenry]

Hard to get a read on this guy. He goes out and kills Oakland, and Tampa, but throws up a dud against the Cowboys and even Ponder could move the ball on them. So I am guessing next week he will go 30 for 35 for 350 and 8 touchdowns or 12 for 29 for 90 yards and nothing.

For those that follow the team it's pretty clear Foles has talent. I've been on record as wanting to see what he has all off season. I wanted him to start this whole year to find out because he showed flashes. If he sucked well no big deal go draft another guy. If he was good but not Kelly's fit well then we have trade value and then go draft another guy. If on the slim chance he becomes elite, you keep him as your guy.

Chalk the Dallas game up as the outlier. He is a young kid that had his whole future right there in his face. The starting job against a bitter rival for first place at home. He simply choked in the moment which was so surprising since he's main attribute has been poise. Today was just one of those snowball games. I think he's closer to the Tampa game for a realistic outlook. A potential top 10 talent. With that in mind and if he keeps playing this way in Kelly's offense, I don't see how Chip doesn't keep him around for a few more years and drafts a QB in the 3rd or 4th to grow as a backup.

If we do that, then this too must be chalked up as an outlier. So essentially we are back to where we were 3 weeks ago. Luckily, he has 7 more games to confirm one suspicion over the other. I'm sure they'll be tons of arguing this week and going forward but tough to ignore 80 yards on 37% completion or a 7 TD game.

 

[cstu]

If we do that, then this too must be chalked up as an outlier. So essentially we are back to where we were 3 weeks ago. Luckily, he has 7 more games to confirm one suspicion over the other. I'm sure they'll be tons of arguing this week and going forward but tough to ignore 80 yards on 37% completion or a 7 TD game.

That IS the outlier of his career. He's had 3 bad games in his career, in the other 10 he's thrown 18 TD's to 2 INT's.

 

[Breesisdaman]

So what is the schedule looking like going forward? any lower echelon defenses on Philly's schedule for Foles to pick apart? I am trying to think of any situation where I would bench Rivers for him.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Using NY/A to rank pass defenses here's Foles schedule for the rest of the FF season:

Wk10 - 20th

Wk11 - 31st

Wk12 - Bye

Wk13 - 13th

----------------- Playoffs

Wk14 - 25th

Wk15 - 23rd

Wk 16 - 32nd

Wk17 - 26th

It's going to be hard to sit him against the Redskins (Wk11), or the playoff run against the Lions, Vikings and Bears.

 

[LittlePhatty]

BTW, mad props to Shahbucks on his continued support of Foles. He called this one from the beginning. You can't deny a guy who throws 7 tds in a game has talent to be a starter. It doesn't matter who it's against.

Didn't Matt Flynn throw 6 TDs in one game and have since been shown not to be starting qb material?

Exactly, he only threw 6. The line is 7 to be considered a permanent starter.

 

[msommer]

BTW, mad props to Shahbucks on his continued support of Foles. He called this one from the beginning. You can't deny a guy who throws 7 tds in a game has talent to be a starter. It doesn't matter who it's against.

Didn't Matt Flynn throw 6 TDs in one game and have since been shown not to be starting qb material?

Exactly, he only threw 6. The line is 7 to be considered a permanent starter.

Awesome, good to know that among current players only Nick Foles and Peyton Manning have the talent to be starters.

 

[Amused to Death]

I think some people forget Foles almost won the starting job out of pre-season. During camp, most beat writers were telling us Foles was regularly better than Vick.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

He clearly was in a great rhythm yesterday. It's awesome to see a player that is in "the zone" and do their thing. Raiders D is not the worst or the best, but regardless things start to snowball at some point. Everyone has seen it if you have watched enough NFL games. Raiders was out of sorts and Foles was the main driver putting them there. My favorite part is while everyone else on the sidelines was going crazy, Foles acted like it was nothing...just serious, like I'm supposed to do this. He wasn't smug, just in "the zone."

 

[Bernman2]

I think some people forget Foles almost won the starting job out of pre-season. During camp, most beat writers were telling us Foles was regularly better than Vick.

Am I crazy or didn't I see a report stating that Foles started the Dallas game with an injury, groin-related, I believe. While I'm not one to blame injury, I'm really surprised I don't see anyone mentioning it in the 'outlier' performance. A groin injury for a QB makes it almost impossible to step into throws, get any kind of lower body into throws. Try shooting free throws, or better yet, 3 point shots in basketball, from your knees, and you realize how important the bottom half of your body is in throwing balls accurately (or far).

Obviously, if this is the case, then the fact that after all the negative press on Foles after that game was not met with any excuses about the injury shows how mature Foles is, and even more important, that he can be a very important cog in our rebuilding effort. I'm not saying he's definitely the future, but didn't Tom Brady start out even less 'prolific', and I'm sure there are many other examples?

As eagles fans, we are definitely looking at the world with Kelly-green colored glasses, but isn't that what supporting your team is all about? While I think we have seen both the bottom end (Dallas game) and top end (Raiders game) of Foles' performance spectrum, I tend to believe his ability is well above the middle of that spectrum, and he will only move to the right with proper support and building of the team around him.

Let's stop focusing on how bad the Raiders are or must be, and just enjoy yesterday's afterglow, but look forward to not just the rest of the season, but the next several winning seasons to come.

 

[dhockster]

Did we ever find out how much of an injury Foles had coming into the Dallas game (Ankle, I believe)? Based on what we have seen from Barkley, and what we have seen from Foles in other games, more and more I believe Kelly started an injured Foles against Dallas who really should not have played, because Kelly was hoping an injured Foles would perform better than a healthy Barkley. His accuracy was so bad that game, It's hard not to think something physically was wrong.

 

[dhockster]

I think some people forget Foles almost won the starting job out of pre-season. During camp, most beat writers were telling us Foles was regularly better than Vick.

Am I crazy or didn't I see a report stating that Foles started the Dallas game with an injury, groin-related, I believe. While I'm not one to blame injury, I'm really surprised I don't see anyone mentioning it in the 'outlier' performance. A groin injury for a QB makes it almost impossible to step into throws, get any kind of lower body into throws. Try shooting free throws, or better yet, 3 point shots in basketball, from your knees, and you realize how important the bottom half of your body is in throwing balls accurately (or far).

Obviously, if this is the case, then the fact that after all the negative press on Foles after that game was not met with any excuses about the injury shows how mature Foles is, and even more important, that he can be a very important cog in our rebuilding effort. I'm not saying he's definitely the future, but didn't Tom Brady start out even less 'prolific', and I'm sure there are many other examples?

As eagles fans, we are definitely looking at the world with Kelly-green colored glasses, but isn't that what supporting your team is all about? While I think we have seen both the bottom end (Dallas game) and top end (Raiders game) of Foles' performance spectrum, I tend to believe his ability is well above the middle of that spectrum, and he will only move to the right with proper support and building of the team around him.

Let's stop focusing on how bad the Raiders are or must be, and just enjoy yesterday's afterglow, but look forward to not just the rest of the season, but the next several winning seasons to come.

You are about 30 seconds smarter than me

 

[ShaHBucks]

Another OPOW in the bag.

 

[ShaHBucks]

He clearly was in a great rhythm yesterday. It's awesome to see a player that is in "the zone" and do their thing. Raiders D is not the worst or the best, but regardless things start to snowball at some point. Everyone has seen it if you have watched enough NFL games. Raiders was out of sorts and Foles was the main driver putting them there. My favorite part is while everyone else on the sidelines was going crazy, Foles acted like it was nothing...just serious, like I'm supposed to do this. He wasn't smug, just in "the zone."

Good post. That's basically his personality. He is one of those guys leading by example 24/7. It's a nice medium between some of the characters we have on the team.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Next 2 weeks look pretty damn good @GB, vs. Wash.

Got burned by both Vick and Foles too many times this year so never even considered putting him in over Matt Ryan yesterday.

 

[lod01]

Riley Cooper is never coming out of my lineup again when Foles starts, I'll tell you that. He is basically useless with Vick.

Ditto. Vick needs to just go the #### away. The weekly game stats don't lie. Vick can't get the ball to Cooper and Foles can.

 

[Resident A]

Let's not forget that the Eagles haven't won a home game since like 2011. Both Foles & Vick have put up some nice games on the road, but all the crap-the-bed games seem to come at Home.

Much respect to Foles for this week, but after being burned by Eagles QBs 4x already this year, there is no way I'm starting Foles again unless I see him at least have a solid follow-up game to this one.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Let's not forget that the Eagles haven't won a home game since like 2011. Both Foles & Vick have put up some nice games on the road, but all the crap-the-bed games seem to come at Home.

Much respect to Foles for this week, but after being burned by Eagles QBs 4x already this year, there is no way I'm starting Foles again unless I see him at least have a solid follow-up game to this one.

Seems half logic and half emotion. My logic sees a coach doesn't let up at all when he notices what's working. We were up 30 still speeding up the game. This is the next fast pace offense in the NFL like NE or NO. Even if you don't think much of Foles you have to consider how much the schemes will drive his production. Foles gets to throw relentlessly compared to say Andrew Luck in IND offense. I don't see how you can't be excited about the possibilities when almost every QB not named Peyton, Rodgers, Brees are not separating themselves this year.

 

[CalBear]

The story here in Oaktown is that Foles didn't have a spectacular game, just thew the ball to open receivers.

http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Eagles-Foles-shred-Raiders-defense-win-49-20-4951752.php

When a quarterback throws for seven touchdowns to tie an NFL record, you would hope that he would do something special. Maybe make the occasional pass into tight coverage.

But Nick Foles - yes, ladies and gentlemen, that Nick Foles - threw seven touchdown passes Sunday afternoon against the Raiders by simply hitting the open man time and time again.

I think that's a little ungenerous; finding the open man requires at least pocket presence and accuracy. But the Raiders defense definitely sucked.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

The story here in Oaktown is that Foles didn't have a spectacular game, just thew the ball to open receivers.

http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Eagles-Foles-shred-Raiders-defense-win-49-20-4951752.php

When a quarterback throws for seven touchdowns to tie an NFL record, you would hope that he would do something special. Maybe make the occasional pass into tight coverage.

But Nick Foles - yes, ladies and gentlemen, that Nick Foles - threw seven touchdown passes Sunday afternoon against the Raiders by simply hitting the open man time and time again.

I think that's a little ungenerous; finding the open man requires at least pocket presence and accuracy. But the Raiders defense definitely sucked.

There were some pretty extreme cases yesterday (defenders falling down), but that offense and its tempo are supposed to be good at getting guys WFO. And once it starts to happen it seems like a bad defense can come unraveled (Washington in Week 1, yesterday). So it's a combo of things.

But I think Foles does get some of the credit -- he was always calm and always knew where he wanted to go with the ball. As an owner many times over I'm pretty curious to see more, that's for sure.

 

[ShaHBucks]

The story here in Oaktown is that Foles didn't have a spectacular game, just thew the ball to open receivers.

http://www.sfgate.com/raiders/article/Eagles-Foles-shred-Raiders-defense-win-49-20-4951752.php

When a quarterback throws for seven touchdowns to tie an NFL record, you would hope that he would do something special. Maybe make the occasional pass into tight coverage.

But Nick Foles - yes, ladies and gentlemen, that Nick Foles - threw seven touchdown passes Sunday afternoon against the Raiders by simply hitting the open man time and time again.

I think that's a little ungenerous; finding the open man requires at least pocket presence and accuracy. But the Raiders defense definitely sucked.

There were some pretty extreme cases yesterday (defenders falling down), but that offense and its tempo are supposed to be good at getting guys WFO. And once it starts to happen it seems like a bad defense can come unraveled (Washington in Week 1, yesterday). So it's a combo of things.

But I think Foles does get some of the credit -- he was always calm and always knew where he wanted to go with the ball. As an owner many times over I'm pretty curious to see more, that's for sure.

"He was hitting the open guy" lmao. I would never read from that writter again. Someone definitly hit the Buffalo Wild Wings button, but he still would have thrown 5+ TDs. DJax already had his man burned, and Cooper had a step or two on his guy. Its a option offense. Foles deserves credit for reading the defense and hitting the "open" reciever consistently.ETA: article wasn't bad. The writers in Philly were asking how would Pryor look in Chip's offense. Smh

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Let's not forget that the Eagles haven't won a home game since like 2011. Both Foles & Vick have put up some nice games on the road, but all the crap-the-bed games seem to come at Home.

Much respect to Foles for this week, but after being burned by Eagles QBs 4x already this year, there is no way I'm starting Foles again unless I see him at least have a solid follow-up game to this one.

Seems half logic and half emotion. My logic sees a coach doesn't let up at all when he notices what's working. We were up 30 still speeding up the game. This is the next fast pace offense in the NFL like NE or NO. Even if you don't think much of Foles you have to consider how much the schemes will drive his production. Foles gets to throw relentlessly compared to say Andrew Luck in IND offense. I don't see how you can't be excited about the possibilities when almost every QB not named Peyton, Rodgers, Brees are not separating themselves this year.

I agree about scheme, which is why I picked up Foles early this season, before Vick was even hurt. The Eagles offense is simply going to provide more opportunity to put up numbers.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Small sample size, but still nice company... Net Yards/Attempt:

Manning 8.31

Foles 7.97

Rodgers 7.83

Rivers 7.82

Brees 7.43

Stafford 7.31

Vick 7.15

Kaepernick 7.07

Dalton 6.97

Cutler 6.75

Ryan 6.71

Romo 6.59

Griffin 6.51

Wilson 6.50

Roethlisberger 6.30

Manning 6.28

Newton 6.21

Luck 6.06

Flacco 5.99

Locker 5.93

G Smith 5.89

Schaub 5.83

Ponder 5.80

Henne 5.76

Bradford 5.74

Palmer 5.71

Brady 5.70

Pryor 5.68

Manuel 5.59

Tannehill 5.37

A Smith 5.23

Lewis 5.01

Glennon 4.83

Weeden 4.61

Freeman 4.52

 

[Judge Smails]

Next 2 weeks look pretty damn good @GB, vs. Wash.

Got burned by both Vick and Foles too many times this year so never even considered putting him in over Matt Ryan yesterday.

The matchup vs. Dallas looked pretty good too. This guy will be boom or bust. We know this. You seriously just won't have a clue when you start him what you are going to get.