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The Nick Foles era (5 Viewers)

HOF is mostly about stats.  I don't see him getting in without a much bigger body of work and higher numbers.  He could still get that if he becomes a super star on another team, but I don't think these 10 games are enough based on how those guys vote.
No, I don't really think he would get in based on his overall body of work but besides the current streak he's on, he has also had the 3rd highest QB rating for a season and tied for the most TD passes in a game. And he's BDN so that should also be considered.

 
No, I don't really think he would get in based on his overall body of work but besides the current streak he's on, he has also had the 3rd highest QB rating for a season and tied for the most TD passes in a game. And he's BDN so that should also be considered.
People are saying Eli, with the same number of SB's and about 10x the stats, shouldn't even get in.  I'm all for your fun 'what ifs' this week to take the stress off, but this one is a little too far fetched :P

 
People are saying Eli, with the same number of SB's and about 10x the stats, shouldn't even get in.  I'm all for your fun 'what ifs' this week to take the stress off, but this one is a little too far fetched :P
Again, I'm not really serious. Nick's just has some of the best short term stats around. And no, I don't think Eli should get into the Hall of Fame. He's a .500 QB who rode his defense to two super bowls and never got hurt over 15 years. He's a compiler.

 
Oh no, now we're going to get the "you Eagles fans think Foles should be in the HOF" label now.

Dshocker has just been having some fun with hypothetical far fetched situations this week.  To clear it up now, no one thinks he'll be in the HOF.
Relax

 
Again, I'm not really serious. Nick's just has some of the best short term stats around. And no, I don't think Eli should get into the Hall of Fame. He's a .500 QB who rode his defense to two super bowls and never got hurt over 15 years. He's a compiler.
Eli probably gets in though.  HOF is often about compiling stats anyways.  There's no "ONE WAY" to evaluate a great qb.  Some voters will look at stats, some the eyeball test, some super bowls.

 
Eli probably gets in though.  HOF is often about compiling stats anyways.  There's no "ONE WAY" to evaluate a great qb.  Some voters will look at stats, some the eyeball test, some super bowls.
I agree with you that Eli will get in because of lots of stats, 2 super bowls, and the Manning name. But in my opinion he shouldn't get in.

 
There is precedent for a two-time SB-winning QB not getting in: Jim Plunkett. Viewed as someone who rode a defense and running game to the title. Plus he was not good early in his career. 

However, in football, HOF selections are as much about narrative as about stats. Joe Namath’s stats aren’t really that good, but you can’t tell the history of the league without him. Eli might end up in the same category.

 
I'd be surprised to see Elway go for Foles even if it's technically his best option. He's already whiffed on QB so many times that if he swings and misses again on another high paid FA QB after Keenum, and all the draft busts...I don't see how he keeps his job. And I'd be surprised if he decides Foles is the guy who is worth that one last all-or-nothing swing he probably still has time for. It will be a rookie this year or next year, who gives him more time as he gets through his growing pains. Elway isn't getting another HC or QB after this next choice at each spot imo. 

 
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Eli might end up in the same category.
It sucks because he barely deserves it, but Eli definitely falls into that category. You can't tell the story of the all-time Brady/Belichick Pats dynasty that defined the league for almost two decades without Eli and those Giants SB's being intertwined. 

 
Oh no, now we're going to get the "you Eagles fans think Foles should be in the HOF" label now.

Dshocker has just been having some fun with hypothetical far fetched situations this week.  To clear it up now, no one thinks he'll be in the HOF.
The exact opposite of what you say about Nick Foles usually happens. I'm actually intrigued now

 
Again, I'm not really serious. Nick's just has some of the best short term stats around. And no, I don't think Eli should get into the Hall of Fame. He's a .500 QB who rode his defense to two super bowls and never got hurt over 15 years. He's a compiler.
Troy Aikman got in, better career I guess (2 more pro bowls and a 3rd ring) but largely similar. 

But yeah, you're not telling the story of the NFL in the 90s without him.

 
Troy Aikman got in, better career I guess (2 more pro bowls and a 3rd ring) but largely similar. 

But yeah, you're not telling the story of the NFL in the 90s without him.
Aikman was never the best QB in the league, but he was pretty good. 5 seasons in the top 5 in passer rating. Eli has zero, and only one season in the top 10.

 
Aikman was never the best QB in the league, but he was pretty good. 5 seasons in the top 5 in passer rating. Eli has zero, and only one season in the top 10.
🤷‍♂️ Seems easier to do when your o line is great, you have Emmit,n Irvin, good defense... 

Not to insult Troy but on another team he's not HOF imo

 
🤷‍♂️ Seems easier to do when your o line is great, you have Emmit,n Irvin, good defense... 

Not to insult Troy but on another team he's not HOF imo
Sure. But Eli is not at all a good comp for Aikman. Aikman very efficiently ran one of the top offenses in the league for many years. Eli played a few good games at the right time. 

 
Kinda like the opposite happens with everything you say but you only come back after 2 years to discuss times you're 'right".  Some life you have :lmao:
I was afraid he may have hurt himself when Foles got benched with the Rams. He totally disappeared. After running his mouth for a year non-stop before that. Also stayed away when he was a bench warmer behind Alex Smith in Kansas City.  Now that Foles is popular, he's back pounding his chest. The very definition of a no integrity poster. Big man when he's right. Spineless coward when he's wrong.  That's why no one takes him seriously. At least it's good to know he's safe.

 
I was afraid he may have hurt himself when Foles got benched with the Rams. He totally disappeared. After running his mouth for a year non-stop before that. Also stayed away when he was a bench warmer behind Alex Smith in Kansas City.  Now that Foles is popular, he's back pounding his chest. The very definition of a no integrity poster. Big man when he's right. Spineless coward when he's wrong.  That's why no one takes him seriously. At least it's good to know he's safe.
1. I wasn’t wrong and showed plenty of integrity standing up in every situation named. You’re continued smear campaign is full of delusion. The whole topic can be revisited unless you boys deleted post. Go check David Wilson threads, Tavon Austin, Blake Bortles or you name it. I’m all for the smoke. You’re upset I let time prove you wrong. There isn’t 40 QBs better than Nick Foles. Last laugh is AT you

2. You don’t know me. Question you’re own character and maturity if you think you do.

 
Page 39 is a good start for anyone new and wondering why I'm disputing nonsense.

 
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Lol I can hear Jr and Deamon now “You waiting 10 years after he retired to say I told you so when you were wrong all these years about him getting in”
I’ll tell you one thing he is getting in—the Eagles ring of fame even if the magic ends this week.  Ray D himself said so LOL. 

 
Nick Foles completed 18-of-31 passes for 201 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions in the Eagles' 20-14, Divisional Round loss to the Saints, adding a rushing touchdown.

The Eagles jumped out of the gates fast, blitzkrieging the Saints and going up 14-0 on the scoreboard in first 10:23 of game action. Philly never really sniffed the end zone the remainder of the game, and a late fourth-quarter interception that was a horrid drop by Alshon Jeffery sealed the loss. Foles started seven games this season in place of an injured Carson Wentz (knee, back) and won five of them, completing 184-of-266 passes (69.2%) for 1,880 yards (7.07 YPA) and a 10:8 TD:INT mark. He'll be a free agent in March and will have a long list of suitors. There's even whispers of the Eagles keeping him and potentially trading Carson Wentz. Foles turns 30 next Sunday.

Jan 13 - 7:53 PM

 
Because he's been surrounded by HOF caliber players? 

BB gets a lot of credit of course but other than Gronk, and moss for a short bit, Brady has had what, Wes Weller, Edelman and deion branch? 
You think Brady's a HOFer if he'd been drafted by pretty much any other team in the league?

I don't 

 
You think Brady's a HOFer if he'd been drafted by pretty much any other team in the league?

I don't 
We'll never know (don't know with Aikman for that matter) but Tom has done more with less skill player talent than anyone else. 

I would have loved seeing him in Detroit.

 
Nick Foles - QB -  Eagles

1010 XL Jacksonville's Hays Carlyon believes the hiring of OC John DeFilippo "strengthens the possibility" of the Jaguars "making an aggressive play" for Nick Foles.

Foles will have plenty of suitors once he and the Eagles decide the best course of action for him. One thing seems certain -- Foles is highly unlikely to remain in Philly after the Eagles again committed to Carson Wentz as their quarterback. DeFilippo was Foles' position coach in 2017 with the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl on Foles' back. The Jaguars' obvious top need is finding a quarterback. Blake Bortles and his $21 million cap hit are on the way out the door.

Related: Jaguars

Source: 1010 XL Jacksonville 

Jan 16 - 2:38 PM

 
On another team neither is Tom Brady
I think this is absurd. Brees proved it going from SD to NO. Brady is one of the best we've ever seen and it wouldn't matter what team he was on. He makes average players around him better. Other than Randy Moss he's NEVER had an elite WR. Not one. I think your view is tainted because that statement IS true about Troy. I'd say its true about Emmitt Smith too. 

 
I think this is absurd. Brees proved it going from SD to NO. Brady is one of the best we've ever seen and it wouldn't matter what team he was on. He makes average players around him better. Other than Randy Moss he's NEVER had an elite WR. Not one. I think your view is tainted because that statement IS true about Troy. I'd say its true about Emmitt Smith too. 
I'm not comparing anything to Troy.

Tom Brady is who he is as a football player because of coach Belichick and his staff over the yrs imo

If you think he would have had the same career in Cleveland, or Cincinnati or Tampa Bay etc, we will just have to agree to disagree. Because that's crazy talk imo

 
I'm not comparing anything to Troy.

Tom Brady is who he is as a football player because of coach Belichick and his staff over the yrs imo

If you think he would have had the same career in Cleveland, or Cincinnati or Tampa Bay etc, we will just have to agree to disagree. Because that's crazy talk imo
Yeah maybe he wouldn’t be as good on another team but what makes you so certain he wouldn’t be HOF good?  Are you saying he’s not as good as QBs like Eli or Ben?

 
Yeah maybe he wouldn’t be as good on another team but what makes you so certain he wouldn’t be HOF good?  Are you saying he’s not as good as QBs like Eli or Ben?
No?

You think Ben and Eli would be Ben and Eli if they were drafted by Cle, Cin, Tampa etc?

Ben and Eli may have been Brady good had they been drafted by NE imo

You think Ben is Brady good?

 
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No?

You think Ben and Eli would be Ben and Eli if they were drafted by Cle, Cin, Tampa etc?

Ben and Eli may have been Brady good had they been drafted by NE imo

You think Ben is Brady good?
I think Brady would be a HOF QB regardless of who drafted him.  Yes I believe he's that good.  No I don't think Ben is as good as Brady.

 
have to admit, that's a classy freaking move right there.
Yep. He missed it by like 4 plays and had it been a meaningful game, he'd have stayed out there. Good move by the team. Shows the rest of the players that they're not unreasonable when it comes to their money. Makes potential free agents consider Philly a little more.

 
Yep. He missed it by like 4 plays and had it been a meaningful game, he'd have stayed out there. Good move by the team. Shows the rest of the players that they're not unreasonable when it comes to their money. Makes potential free agents consider Philly a little more.
Lurie is a damn fine owner and I believe a legitimately good dude. Up until they won last year, there were still loads of people that felt he was only in it for the money. I don’t see how anyone with an ounce of sense could say that. He wanted that trophy as much as any of us. It is true that the city helped quite a lot with the stadium and it hurt Phily’s bond rating for a while and so some bear a grudge about that  but I’d say it’s been worth it. 

 
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Sheil Kapadia of The Athletic believes the Eagles are "bluffing" and will not assign the franchise tag to Nick Foles unless they already have a trade partner in place.

The Eagles have made clear that Carson Wentz is their starter, so it wouldn't make much sense to assign Foles the franchise tag, which would net him close to $25 million. No team in their right mind would pay that amount for a backup quarterback. The Eagles are clearly posturing to drum up trade interest, though Kapadia suspects the odds of Foles being dealt are still "pretty slim." In all likelihood, the reigning Super Bowl MVP will hit the open market.

Source: The Athletic 

Feb 3 - 10:16 AM

 

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