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The official "I'm worried about Julio Jones" thread (1 Viewer)
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dboysrock94
Footballguy
Similar to the dez, Austin situation. Teams are rolling coverage his way and Roddy it's making them pay.
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eric rymer
Footballguy
Exactly. This will change weekly. It's going to boil down to who the defense wants to take away that given week. Not worried. Yes, it's frustrating but it'll come.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Excellent WR on an excellent passing offense. It's still a coin flip as to who will be the guy to own come Week 16 - Roddy or Julio. As long as you own one of them you've got a guy who shouldn't be benched no matter what happened the week before.
YepGamble was on him most of the day. Roddy got the rookie NOrman. They switched at one point late and Julio blew a big play by not getting his 2nd foot in bounds. For some reason, they switched back for the final drive and it cost them.
Noah Davis
Footballguy
Not a valid post.....were you worried in week 1 & 3? Take the good with the bad - you need to expect at minimum 2 and more likely 4 duds out of your WR's in a season.
solorca
Footballguy
Don't worry too much about him. Go back and look at WR1 performances against Carolina over the past two seasons and you'll see that Carolina is fantastic (thanks to Chris Gamble) at shutting down the top receiving threat. They had to pick their poison against the Falcons yesterday, and decided to shut down Julio instead of Roddy.
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Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
It is a valid post. This guy was taken in the first and early second rounds in many drafts I did. He absolutely has not lived up to his hype and frankly Roddy White looks like a vastly superior player right now and Ryan trusts him. Julio just looks like a decent second receiver. That's not how he was drafted.
solorca
Footballguy
He's had two bad games against Champ Bailey and Chris Gamble. He's in pretty good company, struggling against those guys.The problem isn't really Julio Jones, it's that Matt Ryan is too smart to throw into coverage on a guy that is being blanketed by a shutdown corner, when Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez are getting open against lesser defenders. Julio will continue to struggle a bit when he plays the top level cornerbacks, but most weeks, he'll get more looks. I have no doubt that he'll be a WR1 by the end of the season.
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matuski
Footballguy
If you overpaid, you overpaid.It isn't like Roddy White came out of nowhere.... you knew this when you drafted him.
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
I'm thinking about trading him for Brian Heartline.
packersfan
Footballguy
If you drafted Jones in the first round (and that's where he was going in most drafts near the start of the season), I doubt you'll be able to get him for a bargain - especially the week before the play the Redskins. If Jones doesn't go off next Sunday I think people will have every right to officially be worried. Washington's secondary is pathetic.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
No need to be...the Falcons passing offense is going to swing between Roddy & Julio IMO all season. In fact, my advice to Roddy owners would be to start fielding trade offers for him.
All off-season, the Falcons and even White himself have been promoting Julio as the Falcons new #1 WR. His physical skills are indeed ridiculous. But Ryan is not going to play favorites. He's going to take the best match-up with Gonzo as his safety valve.
Even as a Falcon fan, I fell into the trap of thinking it was going to be all-Julio, all the time. I forgot how good Roddy could be since his 2011 was sub-par by the standard he set. The more imporant stat to consider is that between White/Julio they've combined for 43/632/6 in the seasons first 4 games. There's enough here for both to eat, they'll just take turns at the buffet.
All off-season, the Falcons and even White himself have been promoting Julio as the Falcons new #1 WR. His physical skills are indeed ridiculous. But Ryan is not going to play favorites. He's going to take the best match-up with Gonzo as his safety valve.
Even as a Falcon fan, I fell into the trap of thinking it was going to be all-Julio, all the time. I forgot how good Roddy could be since his 2011 was sub-par by the standard he set. The more imporant stat to consider is that between White/Julio they've combined for 43/632/6 in the seasons first 4 games. There's enough here for both to eat, they'll just take turns at the buffet.
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Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
With the way Roddy is playing right now, I would be very surprised if he didn't find himself across from the other teams #1 CB for a while.
Exactly. I don't know why some people just brushed Roddy aside this year like he was some old, over the hill WR. Julio was way overvalued heading into this season. I wanted him in my drafts, but the price tag was too high. But people complaining about his production need to just chill. He's going to end the year with likely WR1 numbers. I just don't know why people expected him to be WR2 after Megatron this year.
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Funkley
Collar: Up
This and hurry.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I got steak dinner riding on Roddy outscoring Julio through Week 13 (end of the FF regular season). The JJ owner who made the prop bet took McFadden @ 1.05, and Jones in the 2nd (where he seemed to always go this year).
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Also missed a TD due to a great play by the cornerback. Two plays away from a big day. Definitely a buy low if the owner is panicking.
chinawildman
Footballguy
The thing that worries me about Julio are the routes he's running in this new offense. They don't seem catered towards his skill set. Why isn't he ever catching the ball in open space on short drag routes or slants. Everything I see him run are deep/shallow ins, curls, hitches, quick outs... stuff that the "possession" receivers run because they have no YAC ability. Yet Julio's weakness are his hands, and he can't use his YAC ability running these routes.
Roddy will get his. Julio's #s are going to Gonzo.
Roddy will get his. Julio's #s are going to Gonzo.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
We're only 1/4th the way into the season. Way too early to call it.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
You are "worried" about Julio Jones? Talent finds a way to produce. Look at all of the owners who were worried about Larry Fitzgerald and dumped him after the first couple of weeks. Look at the owners who traded Aaron Rodgers after week 2 or 3. Wr's have monster games and bad games--due to defenses, schemes and the way their qb is throwing the ball. Julio got lots of targets yesterday, and he should have had another 50 yard sideline catch. Regardless of where you drafted him--name me 10wr's you'd want to own ahead of him. If owning a top 10 WR worries you--then dump him. In my opinion people that don't own him should feast upon this premature worrying and try to buy low.
packersfan
Footballguy
They were very creative with Jones in Week 1. The bubble screen TD was a great call. I haven't seen that level of creativity with his routes since. Granted, they haven't really needed to do much and they're 4-0 so it's not like they have a broken offense but I thought they showed far more creativity in Week 1 with Jones than they have in the other three games. It's like they had this great new car they wanted to show off and they did and ever since then they've kept it in the garage.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
People always confuse physical studliness with FF production. Same mistake people make with Dez Bryant every year. Julio was bound to fail to live up to the hyper and his crazy ADP of late 1st rounder by end of year'jbz said:
Furious Styles
Footballguy
I'm not worried but he seems to be the key to my team's success as I won in weeks 1&3 and loss in weeks 2&4. Atlanta looks to be a team that will score on anyone this season so overall I'm feeling good about him.
This is how I'm seeing it. It's all about who the opposing team tries to neutralize. The difference here is that Matt Ryan has 2 elite WR and an elite TE to throw to. If one guy is being neutralized he doesn't have to force feed it to him.
wodahSShadow
Footballguy
Can we just delete this thread?
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
take advantage of it
Clifford
Footballguy
This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.
Who are these peudo moderators? I mean isn't this a discussion message board? Why delete a thread that has had so many posts. Obviously this is something people want to talk about. I mean what is this if its not a place where people who have entirely too much time on their hands discussion stupid fantasy subjects? Whoddshaddow are all of your posts and threads so insightful and intelligent that are beyond reproach? How about if you don't like the thread don't comment.
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Nucker101
Footballguy
chinawildman
Footballguy
I'm worried not in the sense that I think he'll be a bust, but that he seems to be the same player he was last year. While that's not necessarily that bad, it's still not good return as a guy drafted to be a WR1.
For comparison's sake, I think Torrey Smith (another guy I liked this year) looks to have taken steps to improve his game. Not sure I can say the same for Julio. It doesn't feel good when your WR1 is not even the top 2 targets on his own team.
For comparison's sake, I think Torrey Smith (another guy I liked this year) looks to have taken steps to improve his game. Not sure I can say the same for Julio. It doesn't feel good when your WR1 is not even the top 2 targets on his own team.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Tony Gonzalez is on pace for the best year of his career so far.. and considering hes a HOFer, this is pretty crazy.There is no reason to question Julio Jones, Matt Ryan is going through his reads and passing to the guys in single coverage.
As much as we like to put coaching staffs and NFL teams on a pedestal, they see what we see in Julio Jones... guy is a monster, he will be getting the teams best defender the rest of the year, just the way it is.
I'm actually more worried about Dez than I am Julio
packersfan
Footballguy
If Jones doesn't go off next week against the Redskins then I think any concern about him will be justified. Everyone destroys the Washington secondary. Mike Williams even rose from the dead against them yesterday.
Todem
Footballguy
Your right.
He looks even better.
Relax.
WR's have weeks where they are not involved...nature of the game. Julio Jones is a bonafide stud and I believe he will be fine.
Todem
Footballguy
And by the way if Matt Ryan makes a better pass yesterday he has a monster long TD.
He was wide open yet Ryans pass led him all the way to the sidelines. It was not a great pass and Jones had to make a great sideline ballet dance to haul it...and he almost did it.
He was so wide open......Ryan missed it.
He was wide open yet Ryans pass led him all the way to the sidelines. It was not a great pass and Jones had to make a great sideline ballet dance to haul it...and he almost did it.
He was so wide open......Ryan missed it.
RUSF18
Footballguy
It's funny you used the words "a great sideline ballet dance" when it was anything but. His stride with his second leg was as long as if he was in the middle of the field.
eric rymer
Footballguy
chinawildman
Footballguy
Uh yea, if you think so. But he looked like he had a bad case of the drops in Week 2. Shoulda kept the hair...
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Julio did not get Gamble all the time though. See below - blurb from ESPN regarding Week4 observations:The most-tweeted panicked question to me during Sunday's games: "Where's Julio Jones?" He was out there; he just didn't get much work. After the Falcons' stirring comeback victory, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution casually mentioned that Jones was used "mostly as a decoy while his hand heals," which was news to me. I haven't watched the game tape yet, but it looked as if the Panthers were sending safety help Jones' way for much of the afternoon, and Roddy White was eating up single coverage, usually against Chris Gamble (but sometimes, unfortunately for Carolina, against Josh Norman). The result? White wound up with 169 yards and two TDs, and Jones had three targets, one catch and 30 yards. If the Jones owner in your league chooses to panic, by all means swoop in. These WRs will go back and forth all season.http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/football/ffl/story?page=impressions121001
