The official "I'm worried about Julio Jones" thread (1 Viewer)

[northwoods]

His bum hand made him a decoy this week. He'll be back next week. Relax...

 

[silentcoach]

His stats are not on the elite category, but he still has the potential.

Will he live up to it...we have 12-13 more weeks.

As of now, I'm worried that his past stats have been below "expected."

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Should have taken both Julio and Roddy. $$ when Gonzo isn't playing over his head.

 

[thehornet]

He's fine. He still had 8 targets, just didn't convert. Barely missed a 50 yard completion by not quite getting his 2nd foot down.

This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.

You didn't watch the catch. If you did, you wouldn't be making this comment.

 

[wodahSShadow]

Who are these peudo moderators? I mean isn't this a discussion message board? Why delete a thread that has had so many posts. Obviously this is something people want to talk about. I mean what is this if its not a place where people who have entirely too much time on their hands discussion stupid fantasy subjects? Whoddshaddow are all of your posts and threads so insightful and intelligent that are beyond reproach? How about if you don't like the thread don't comment.

The OP/thread just feels like troll baiting. So Julio had a bad week, everyone does, several games a year in fact. Anyone who knows fantasy football knows this, so why the overreaction/troll baiting?-- that is not very productive/insightful. Case in point: 6, 8, 6, 3. Those are Calvin Johnson's fantasy totals in standard non-ppr last year in week's 10, 11, 13 and 14, in one of the great wide receiver fantasy seasons ever. Were you going to sit him in the playoffs because of that?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'm going to make offers for him, he's a stud. The guy can go off any week. Probably a little more inconsistant than most would like to see but don't panic here, he's a difference maker.

 

[Kboyd78]

Who are these peudo moderators? I mean isn't this a discussion message board? Why delete a thread that has had so many posts. Obviously this is something people want to talk about. I mean what is this if its not a place where people who have entirely too much time on their hands discussion stupid fantasy subjects? Whoddshaddow are all of your posts and threads so insightful and intelligent that are beyond reproach? How about if you don't like the thread don't comment.

The OP/thread just feels like troll baiting. So Julio had a bad week, everyone does, several games a year in fact. Anyone who knows fantasy football knows this, so why the overreaction/troll baiting?-- that is not very productive/insightful. Case in point: 6, 8, 6, 3. Those are Calvin Johnson's fantasy totals in standard non-ppr last year in week's 10, 11, 13 and 14, in one of the great wide receiver fantasy seasons ever. Were you going to sit him in the playoffs because of that?

Frankly I understand your opinion but one of the best aspects of this forum is it is a place where people can come and co-miserate. Not just to add in depth statistical information simply to discuss an underachieving WR in this case. Again if you don't like the thread simply ignore it. With all due respect you are the troll in that regard.

 

[wodahSShadow]

Who are these peudo moderators? I mean isn't this a discussion message board? Why delete a thread that has had so many posts. Obviously this is something people want to talk about. I mean what is this if its not a place where people who have entirely too much time on their hands discussion stupid fantasy subjects? Whoddshaddow are all of your posts and threads so insightful and intelligent that are beyond reproach? How about if you don't like the thread don't comment.

The OP/thread just feels like troll baiting. So Julio had a bad week, everyone does, several games a year in fact. Anyone who knows fantasy football knows this, so why the overreaction/troll baiting?-- that is not very productive/insightful. Case in point: 6, 8, 6, 3. Those are Calvin Johnson's fantasy totals in standard non-ppr last year in week's 10, 11, 13 and 14, in one of the great wide receiver fantasy seasons ever. Were you going to sit him in the playoffs because of that?

Frankly I understand your opinion but one of the best aspects of this forum is it is a place where people can come and co-miserate. Not just to add in depth statistical information simply to discuss an underachieving WR in this case. Again if you don't like the thread simply ignore it. With all due respect you are the troll in that regard.

Fair enough. The real question for this thread is-- Are opposing teams now treating Julio as a bigger threat than Roddy? And, if so- Are most going to have a safety blanket him over-the-top because of such?

 

[duaneok66]

GREAT receivers should be able to produce even when they have extra coverage rolled up over the top - that is what makes them GREAT.

 

[packersfan]

Who are these peudo moderators? I mean isn't this a discussion message board? Why delete a thread that has had so many posts. Obviously this is something people want to talk about. I mean what is this if its not a place where people who have entirely too much time on their hands discussion stupid fantasy subjects? Whoddshaddow are all of your posts and threads so insightful and intelligent that are beyond reproach? How about if you don't like the thread don't comment.

The OP/thread just feels like troll baiting. So Julio had a bad week, everyone does, several games a year in fact. Anyone who knows fantasy football knows this, so why the overreaction/troll baiting?-- that is not very productive/insightful. Case in point: 6, 8, 6, 3. Those are Calvin Johnson's fantasy totals in standard non-ppr last year in week's 10, 11, 13 and 14, in one of the great wide receiver fantasy seasons ever. Were you going to sit him in the playoffs because of that?

To be fair, though, Calvin is a proven elite NFL wide receiver. So if he struggles you can point to years of elite production as reason not to worry. Jones is in his second year and has yet to prove himself as an elite player. Many people (myself included) believe he has that type of ability and many people (myself included) drafted him high this year because of that belief. Through the first month of the season, Jones has lived up to his draft day billing just 50 percent of the time. Do I believe it's premature to panic? Yes I do. But it is true to say that to this point of the season Jones hasn't lived up to his ADP so I could see why some people might have some concerns about him.Like I said, I'm not worried because I think Jones will get his as we go along. But when you look at the Atlanta passing game thus far he's been the least consistent producer of their Top 3 receiving weapons with White and Gonzalez both producing at a more consistent level to date. I think it's safe to say that Jones owners - even the ones who aren't panicking at the present time - expected more from him than he's shown so far. I know I did.

 

[Funkley]

GREAT receivers should be able to produce even when they have extra coverage rolled up over the top - that is what makes them GREAT.

This is valid for guys like Calvin Johnson whos quarterbacks force the ball to them whether they are covered or not due partly to need. Ryan has no need to force the ball anywhere with open receivers everywhere he looks. Jones will be fine.

 

[duaneok66]

good points, but as I have said before in the Pool - words like "elite" and "great" are vastly overused here - there is a reason guys like Calvin, Brady, Brees, AP, P. Manning (in his prime) are considered GREAT - they usually produce no matter what the defense is doing.

 

[Funkley]

good points, but as I have said before in the Pool - words like "elite" and "great" are vastly overused here - there is a reason guys like Calvin, Brady, Brees, AP, P. Manning (in his prime) are considered GREAT - they usually produce no matter what the defense is doing.

good posting. Too soon to call him great but damn, I cant help but be a fan of his.

 

[VA703]

any updates on this injury?

feeling he should have a good day against the skins crouching defense hidden secondary

 

[Clifford]

He's fine. He still had 8 targets, just didn't convert. Barely missed a 50 yard completion by not quite getting his 2nd foot down.

This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.

You didn't watch the catch. If you did, you wouldn't be making this comment.

I watched it as many times as they showed it. All he had to do was drag his second foot and catch was made. He didn't, incomplete. Rookie mistake. What missed catch are you talking about?

 

[Matt Bitonti]

i'm not worried about Julio but i have Jordy, Bowe and B Marshall and thinking about benching Julio until he has a better showing.

 

[packersfan]

He's fine. He still had 8 targets, just didn't convert. Barely missed a 50 yard completion by not quite getting his 2nd foot down.

This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.

You didn't watch the catch. If you did, you wouldn't be making this comment.

I watched it as many times as they showed it. All he had to do was drag his second foot and catch was made. He didn't, incomplete. Rookie mistake. What missed catch are you talking about?

I'd have to see it again but Jones came very close to getting both feet in and may have done so. The game announcers thought he did and thought Smith should have challenged the call.

 

[steveski]

i'm not worried about Julio but i have Jordy, Bowe and B Marshall and thinking about benching Julio until he has a better showing.

If he stays on the current pattern of every other week then he's due for a big one this week. Especially against the Redskins!

 

[DocHolliday]

Hi. Julio owner here. Have been for 4 weeks.

I admit I am slightly concerned. I had my reservations of drafting him in the second round due to Roddy White still being a great WR. Julio does not have the same situation as Calvin or AJ Green.

There is still hope for Julio. Atlanta does not have a good running game and has a good QB. And, even though Julio had a terrible week 4, he still had a good amount of targets.

 

[VA703]

this will be his best game of the season

you heard it here FIRST

 

[Clifford]

He's fine. He still had 8 targets, just didn't convert. Barely missed a 50 yard completion by not quite getting his 2nd foot down.

This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.

You didn't watch the catch. If you did, you wouldn't be making this comment.

I watched it as many times as they showed it. All he had to do was drag his second foot and catch was made. He didn't, incomplete. Rookie mistake. What missed catch are you talking about?

I'd have to see it again but Jones came very close to getting both feet in and may have done so. The game announcers thought he did and thought Smith should have challenged the call.

He didn't and it wasn't really that close. What I am talking about is that it would have been incredibly easy for him to drag his toe, as all NFL receivers are trained to do, and make the catch. This is typically something that affects rookie receivers who are not yet acclimated to the NFL game and are used to college rules where you only need one foot inbounds. Thus, rookie mistake.If you watch the replay it is painfully obvious how badly he screwed up that play.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I'm so far from worried and the window to buy slightly low closes on Sunday.

 

[packersfan]

Like I said, I'd have to watch it again but my initial thought watching the play was that he did come very close to getting both feet in. I'm not saying he couldn't have done a better job - perhaps he could have - but I recall thinking initially watching the play that it was very close and the announcers did think Smith should've challenged the call so they thought it was close too.

 

[Clifford]

My point is that the only reason his foot was even close to the line (it was on it) is that he didn't drag his foot. All NFL receivers should know to drag their toe on the second foot if they are near the sideline.

 

[shadyridr]

My point is that the only reason his foot was even close to the line (it was on it) is that he didn't drag his foot. All NFL receivers should know to drag their toe on the second foot if they are near the sideline.

I agree with this. It was a mistake a seasoned veteran wouldnt have made.

 

[RUSF18]

He's fine. He still had 8 targets, just didn't convert. Barely missed a 50 yard completion by not quite getting his 2nd foot down.

This is the problem. He's still making rookie mistakes.

You didn't watch the catch. If you did, you wouldn't be making this comment.

I watched it as many times as they showed it. All he had to do was drag his second foot and catch was made. He didn't, incomplete. Rookie mistake. What missed catch are you talking about?

I'd have to see it again but Jones came very close to getting both feet in and may have done so. The game announcers thought he did and thought Smith should have challenged the call.

The announcers said no such thing. Were you listening on radio or watching on TV?

 

[packersfan]

I was flipping channels and heard announcers talking about it. Maybe I was hearing things watching several games at once.

I'd still like to see the play again because my initial thought was it was very close.

 

[packersfan]

I'd still like to see the play again because my initial thought was it was very close.

NFL Network is replaying the game so I saw the play again. Jones came damn close to getting both feet in. Missed by an inch or so. Second foot appeared to barely be out of bounds.

 

[RUSF18]

I'd still like to see the play again because my initial thought was it was very close.

NFL Network is replaying the game so I saw the play again. Jones came damn close to getting both feet in. Missed by an inch or so. Second foot appeared to barely be out of bounds.

No one is disputing that it was close. But it was never in doubt that he was OOB. Furthermore, it didn't need to be close. Jones took a FULL STRIDE with that second leg, and made no attempt to try to stay within the field of play. That's what people are trying to say.

 

[packersfan]

I'd still like to see the play again because my initial thought was it was very close.

NFL Network is replaying the game so I saw the play again. Jones came damn close to getting both feet in. Missed by an inch or so. Second foot appeared to barely be out of bounds.

No one is disputing that it was close. But it was never in doubt that he was OOB. Furthermore, it didn't need to be close. Jones took a FULL STRIDE with that second leg, and made no attempt to try to stay within the field of play. That's what people are trying to say.

After watching it again, I didn't see it as a bad play on Jones' part. It would've been a great catch and he almost made it. I'm not going to hammer him for that play. Just my two cents.

 

[ProBowler88]

I think once the cut on his hand heals, he will be back to normal. I'm not sure how serious the cut is, but I can't see it hindering him for more than 2 more weeks. I'd try trading for him on a panicking owner.

 

[Nucker101]

Let today be a lesson to you!