The Official Redraft Pick 10-12 Thread (1 Viewer)

[kutta]

I have pick 10 this year in my redraft, and it is very similar to picks 11 and 12, so I figured we could lump the draft discussion for this spot into one thread.

I've been doing a lot of mocks and a lot of thinking about this spot, and here are some of my thoughts:

1. I will not be drafting a WR from this spot unless a miracle happens and Calvin is available. The other WR's do not interest me, and I really like the WR's available at the 3/4 turn (are Andre Johnson and Fitz really that much better thank Nicks, Cruz, Jordy, Wallace, and Steve Smith?).

2. If one of the big three QB's (Brees, Brady, Rogers) are there I will take them at 10. At this spot we are missing on a whole bunch of good point scorers at the RB position, so we need to make sure we have a scoring rock in our lineup. These three guys will provide points week in and week out. I'm not going to settle for riskier picks at any position when I have a sure thing at the QB spot.

3. I will consider Graham in the 2nd round, for similar reasons stated in #2. I don't think I will take Gronk as I think his competition for touches will go up if Hernandez stays healthy and Lloyd plays up to where most think he will. But Graham lost Meacham, and I don't see any new offensive weapons to take away his touches. The problem with Graham in the 2nd, assuming a QB in the 1st, is that the RB pool dries up VERY quickly this year. The best case scenario for RB 1 in the 3rd round is probably Bradshaw, and that isn't too exciting. Also, by going QB/TE early, you are almost forced to take at least one RB at 3/4, and I really like the WR value there this year. I really want to set myself up to take two WR's at the 3/4 turn.

4. If the big 3 QB's are gone, I am hoping for Matthews, Chris Johnson, or McFadden in round 1. I will then hope to follow them up with another RB (one of the guys mentioned, or Richardson) in Round 2. I'll take my WR's at the 3/4 turn, and hopefully grab Eli or Romo at 5/6 for my QB. I would also take Graham here paired with one of the RB's.

5. I really like Decker this year, and he has been available in the 5th.

6. If I get stuck for RB and have zero or one after four rounds, I will look to load up on Redman, McGahee, Starks, Brown, and Green-Ells and hope to get lucky with a couple of them.

7. In the mocks I've done, there are still some really good TE's left in the 6th and 7th rounds (Hernandez, Witten, and Davis). Passing on Graham and Gronk early, getting a great QB and a solid RB, and grabbing one of these guys in the 6th is pretty enticing.

Here are guys I am sure we won't see at this spot:

1. Foster

2. Rice

3. McCoy

4. Rogers

Here are guys I am pretty sure we won't see:

5. Calvin

Here are guys we might see:

6. Chris Johnson

7. Ryan Matthews

8. McFadden

9. Brees

10. Brady (this is the spot I am drafting in. I'd be happy with any of these guys)

11. Jones-Drew

12. Forte

RB's I just do not like and will not draft in the 2nd:

1. Murray

2. Peterson

3. Charles

4. Sproles

5. Steven Jackson

6. Forte

Guys I like and hope to draft in the 2nd:

1. McFadden

2. Chris Johnson

3. Graham

4. MJD (maybe, he will probably go much earlier but I have seen him fall)

5. Richardson

This should get the discussion kicked off.

Thoughts?

 

[TheWick]

Your thoughts pretty much mirror mine for the 10-12 spot with the exception of McFadden. I'll pass on him and go ahead and grab Brady.

I also like Graham in the 2nd but then its going to get real hairy at RB real quick. You have to hope Sproles or S Jackson make it back to you in the third...or even Jamal Charles.

After that I usually grab some 4-6th round WR and then start throwing darts at upside RBs. Redman, Greene, Don Brown are the type of guys you are going to end up relying on at RB2. But your cushion at QB and TE should be significant.

 

[bulger2holt]

Why don't you like Sproles early rd 2 ? I would take him there in a PPR

 

[kutta]

Why don't you like Sproles early rd 2 ? I would take him there in a PPR

I might take him in PPR, but the league I'm referencing here is non-PPR.I just don't trust that he is going to be getting the same workload as last year. Ingram is healthy, and Thomas is still there. Sproles only had 80 something carries last year. Of course he more than made up for it in receptions, but with Ingram back in the mix, I think Sproles will lose touches and would disappoint if drafted in the early second.

 

[ggggh7]

nice write up. i agree with your reasoning.

most of the time 10 out of 12 drafters are thinking similar.

round 1- qb brady/brees ,

rd2- graham, only if you project top 8 wr scoreing from him.--rb whoever u like that survives the turn.

rb ranks for me

McFadden-gone rd one often

Forte-gone rd one often

Jones-Drew-if in camp,gone rd one often

as you see i do not have confidence in a rd two rb,being there.

but.... i will think about going charles/hills(rd 6) or fritz, or whoever your wr2 is (even reach for the big upside wr in jones)

as covered a 10,11,12 drafter is almost handcuffed into taking a wr in both rounds 3/4. unless u are lucky and/or high on bradshaw,turner.

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rd1- qbs gone, for me, McFadden, just to much upside, i think you play to win or finish last. take your shot.

rd2 same thoughts above, but lean toward wr.

rd3-wr

rd4- wr, or reach for McGahee. Don't laugh...this could be used above also, as the goal is to get 3 rbs

Brown, wells,ridley,starks,best.ect... you will not if you don't take one in the 4th.

as stated, decker,a.brown,s.jhonson are high upside wrs you could get in rd5/6. along with a wayne/young Oak wr as backup.(rd7/8)

of course te is deap imo, so ignore till after rd 9/10 . again a gamble. but i believe,this is a way to "shotgun rbs".

or qb late, palmer,schaub, big ben. a gamble mostly because someone will double up qb in the draft. ( take two top 12 qbs)

my "perfect drafr ,but real.. ...as of today"

1. brees

2.jennings-low floor,talent ,qb, more general upside than frtz..ect,imo

3. harvin,austin...assuming jones is gone . choose wr as there are about 10 good ones.

4. McGahee, i like ...for now , he is in a solid offence.(maybe)

5.hills/best/ a. brown

6.hills,ridley ...use the vereen handcuff. ..

7. rb ...Wilson, taking a shot

8 D. heyward-bay/young

target Fleener, colts #2 target??, rd 11 or the long list of other late rd te, at worst get h. miller for week one.

much can change of course.

 

[Imagine]

Kutta and others

I just drew the 12th slot in a 12 team NON-PPR league, 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE plus 1 RB/WR flex, and 4 pts for passing TDs. Otherwise pretty standard.

I was wondering if any of you have completed your drafts and have any post-draft analysis that could help a guy getting ready to go?

Thanks!

 

[kutta]

Kutta and othersI just drew the 12th slot in a 12 team NON-PPR league, 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE plus 1 RB/WR flex, and 4 pts for passing TDs. Otherwise pretty standard. I was wondering if any of you have completed your drafts and have any post-draft analysis that could help a guy getting ready to go?Thanks!

My draft isn't until Saturday night. I am still planning to use the strategy described above. I will post my draft on Sunday.

 

[Imagine]

I have pick 10 this year in my redraft, and it is very similar to picks 11 and 12, so I figured we could lump the draft discussion for this spot into one thread.I've been doing a lot of mocks and a lot of thinking about this spot, and here are some of my thoughts:1. I will not be drafting a WR from this spot unless a miracle happens and Calvin is available. The other WR's do not interest me, and I really like the WR's available at the 3/4 turn (are Andre Johnson and Fitz really that much better thank Nicks, Cruz, Jordy, Wallace, and Steve Smith?).2. If one of the big three QB's (Brees, Brady, Rogers) are there I will take them at 10. At this spot we are missing on a whole bunch of good point scorers at the RB position, so we need to make sure we have a scoring rock in our lineup. These three guys will provide points week in and week out. I'm not going to settle for riskier picks at any position when I have a sure thing at the QB spot.3. I will consider Graham in the 2nd round, for similar reasons stated in #2. I don't think I will take Gronk as I think his competition for touches will go up if Hernandez stays healthy and Lloyd plays up to where most think he will. But Graham lost Meacham, and I don't see any new offensive weapons to take away his touches. The problem with Graham in the 2nd, assuming a QB in the 1st, is that the RB pool dries up VERY quickly this year. The best case scenario for RB 1 in the 3rd round is probably Bradshaw, and that isn't too exciting. Also, by going QB/TE early, you are almost forced to take at least one RB at 3/4, and I really like the WR value there this year. I really want to set myself up to take two WR's at the 3/4 turn.4. If the big 3 QB's are gone, I am hoping for Matthews, Chris Johnson, or McFadden in round 1. I will then hope to follow them up with another RB (one of the guys mentioned, or Richardson) in Round 2. I'll take my WR's at the 3/4 turn, and hopefully grab Eli or Romo at 5/6 for my QB. I would also take Graham here paired with one of the RB's.5. I really like Decker this year, and he has been available in the 5th.6. If I get stuck for RB and have zero or one after four rounds, I will look to load up on Redman, McGahee, Starks, Brown, and Green-Ells and hope to get lucky with a couple of them.7. In the mocks I've done, there are still some really good TE's left in the 6th and 7th rounds (Hernandez, Witten, and Davis). Passing on Graham and Gronk early, getting a great QB and a solid RB, and grabbing one of these guys in the 6th is pretty enticing.Here are guys I am sure we won't see at this spot:1. Foster2. Rice3. McCoy4. RogersHere are guys I am pretty sure we won't see:5. CalvinHere are guys we might see:6. Chris Johnson7. Ryan Matthews8. McFadden9. Brees10. Brady (this is the spot I am drafting in. I'd be happy with any of these guys)11. Jones-Drew12. ForteRB's I just do not like and will not draft in the 2nd:1. Murray2. Peterson3. Charles4. Sproles5. Steven Jackson6. ForteGuys I like and hope to draft in the 2nd:1. McFadden2. Chris Johnson3. Graham4. MJD (maybe, he will probably go much earlier but I have seen him fall)5. RichardsonThis should get the discussion kicked off.Thoughts?

Thanks kutta. I appreciate that. Since you're at 1.01 and I'm in that 1.12 slot, it will be very interesting to see how your above philosophy shakes out. A couple of specific things if you are up to it after your draft. 1. I'd be thrilled if McFadden or Chris Johnson ("Guys I like and hope to draft in the 2nd") are there even at the 1.10 slot, so I'm interested in those RBs available from 1.10 to 2.03, and what you decide to do. By the way, has your opinion changed at all regarding MJD with his prolonged holdout, or Richardson with his knees and the supposedly dismal Cleveland offense? I'm pretty much in agreement with your philosophy at this point, so hope too that a couple of reasonable RBs are available both for you at 1.10/2.03, as well as me at 1.12/2.01.2. In the 3rd/4th, I too am anticipating taking 2 WRs, after probably going RB/RB with my first two picks. So it would be interesting to know what was available for you at 3.10 and 4.03, and what you decide.3. Finally, that 5th/6th round will be exciting to see how far the QBs fall, and if Eli or Romo, or maybe even Ryan, is available to you. I'm not anticipating that Graham will make it that far, as I've seen him generally gone in the 1st or 2nd, but those were PPR drafts. I would anticipate that even in NON-PPR, which we both have for this draft, that he'll be long gone before the 3rd round. Thanks again. I do like your posts and philosophies, so if you're able to post anything, that would be much appreciated. Good luck with your draft!

 

[Cyclones]

I drafted in the 10 spot last night in a 10 team league. First 9 off the board

1. Rodgers (6 pts per TD)

2. Foster

3. McCoy

4. Rice

5. Brady

6. Chris Johnson

7. Ryan Mathews

8. McFadden

9. Brees

I was really hoping McFadden or Brees would fall to me but was shocked that Calvin was still there so I had to take him. Went CJ/Lynch at the turn. After that, there was a huge run on RB, Graham/Gronk and Newton/Stafford were taken, so I went WR/WR in rounds 3/4 with Nicks/Nelson. Richardson was still there when it came back to me so went Richardson/Finley, then Rivers/Donald Brown. Ended up with Cutler, Daniel Thomas, Celek, Steelers and Texans D, Crosby, and fliers on Tebow and Owens. Overall our draft went nothing like I expected. Mathews went way too high, I ended up with a middle of the road QB and a very shaky stable of RBs. I've already put some trade sniffers out with my WR to try and shore up the other positions. I normally like picking 10/11 unless I have a top 3 pick, but it didn't work out this year.

QB Rivers,Cutler, Tebow

RB Lynch, Richardson, D Brown, D Thomas

WR C Johnson, Nicks, Nelson, Owens

TE Finley, Celek

D Texans, Steelers

K Crosby

 

[ohforpetessake]

I'm drafting in the 11 spot in my 12 team ppr on Sunday and am struggling.

I think the OP breaks id down nicely, but I also think the OP's post shows that it's a pretty severe disadvantage to be drafting at the back end of a snake this year.

At the 11 spot, the top 2 tiers of running backs are likely to be gone, as well as the top 3 QBs and megatron. What's left is the wide array of RB question marks, Jimmy Graham, or the top of the second tier WRs (who, as the OP posted out, aren't really that much ahead of the people available at the 3/4 turn).

In all the mocks I've done, I end up feeling like I'm consistently reaching in rounds 1, 2 and 4, and it seems difficult to find value.

 

[teampunjabi]

I have the 12th pick in a non PPR league

1 QB

2 RB

2 WR

1 TE

1 FLEX (WR/RB/TE)

My strategy is as follows:

Perfect scenario is CJ2k and Mcfadden drop to me and I draft them both...aha probably not happening.

Hopefully I can grab Mcfadden and then here is where I am debating on taking another RB (Forte) or going TE (Graham or Gronk) or even QB (Brees if available).

 

[LordHusker]

I have the 12th pick in a non PPR league1 QB2 RB2 WR1 TE1 FLEX (WR/RB/TE)My strategy is as followserfect scenario is CJ2k and Mcfadden drop to me and I draft them both...aha probably not happening.Hopefully I can grab Mcfadden and then here is where I am debating on taking another RB (Forte) or going TE (Graham or Gronk) or even QB (Brees if available).

I have pick 11 in a 14-teamer. I'm like you: Hoping for a McFadden drop. I'm willing to accept the injury risk. But I have a feeling he may be history. To be honest, I can't figure out what to do in that case. The bottom of the first round is awful this year.

 

[browerjs]

I'm #11 in a 12 team .5pt PPR which drafts tomorrow, and I've ran several mocks through the DD, and as much as I hate it, I like my resulting team the best when I go WR/WR (Julio/AJ). I find when I go QB/TE I start lacking in both WR/RB, as I feel compelled to go RB at 3/4. Has anyone else tried going WR/WR? I really don't think I can pull the trigger on WR/WR this year (although I have been successful with it in the past).

This league tends to draft QBs early (last year 6 went in the first two rounds), so I expect nothing but the same this year. If Brees or Brady drop to me (which I highly doubt), I will take one of them, but right now I'm targetting a QBBC with Cutler/Schaub/Freeman/etc.

Thoughts?

 

[teampunjabi]

Have you guys considered grabbing Peterson on the turn in the 2nd round?

 

[browerjs]

Have you guys considered grabbing Peterson on the turn in the 2nd round?

I've definately thought about it, pairing AP with a top 3 QB or Graham/Gronk, could quite possibly be a great play.

 

[jbr69gto]

I am picking #11 of 12 in a non-PPR league that starts 1QB, 2RB, 2 WR, TE, and a ROOKIE. Plus it is a 2 player keeper league. The Rookie position completely skews the deck. Last year Cam Newton went #2 overall and that guy won the league. I already have Vick (drafted in the 17th round 2010) as a 9th round keeper so I am ok waiting on QB. I already have a couple sleeper rookies picked out since I probably will not see RGIII, Luck, or Richardson. I've run a few mocks and the WR/WR start looks like it might be a smart move. I have two 6th round picks and no 8th rounder thanks to a trade from last year.

If I go WR/WR, what RBs am I looking at 3/4 turn?

 

[browerjs]

I am picking #11 of 12 in a non-PPR league that starts 1QB, 2RB, 2 WR, TE, and a ROOKIE. Plus it is a 2 player keeper league. The Rookie position completely skews the deck. Last year Cam Newton went #2 overall and that guy won the league. I already have Vick (drafted in the 17th round 2010) as a 9th round keeper so I am ok waiting on QB. I already have a couple sleeper rookies picked out since I probably will not see RGIII, Luck, or Richardson. I've run a few mocks and the WR/WR start looks like it might be a smart move. I have two 6th round picks and no 8th rounder thanks to a trade from last year.If I go WR/WR, what RBs am I looking at 3/4 turn?

In your league, there is no way Doug Martin will be there, although in a standard league, I'm able to pick him up quite often. You are probably looking at guys such as:Sproles, Bush, Bradshaw, etc.

 

[gdub]

Picking at #12 with TE's lumped with WR. The top 3 QB's and Calvin will be gone. I am going RB/RB to start because I am not crazy about the RB's that are at the 3/4 turn. The WR's at the 3/4 turn look good too. I just have to figure out who to take for RB's. The most likely choices will be Murray, Forte, Lynch, Charles, SJAX. I am leaning Forte if he falls to 12 and then pairing him up with Lynch or SJAX. Anybody else having trouble picking their RB tandem at the 12/13 spot?

 

[browerjs]

Picking at #12 with TE's lumped with WR. The top 3 QB's and Calvin will be gone. I am going RB/RB to start because I am not crazy about the RB's that are at the 3/4 turn. The WR's at the 3/4 turn look good too. I just have to figure out who to take for RB's. The most likely choices will be Murray, Forte, Lynch, Charles, SJAX. I am leaning Forte if he falls to 12 and then pairing him up with Lynch or SJAX. Anybody else having trouble picking their RB tandem at the 12/13 spot?

This is my issue with going RB/RB at the turn (albeit 11/14 in my case), these guys are all a bit of question marks. I'd probably go with Forte/Murray if I do decide to go RB/RB, but I really wonder if I'm better taking a sure thing such as one of the TEs.The end of the draft has the possibility of having great results this year, but there are definately big decisions to be made.I'm also thinking going WR/WR or WR/TE could possibly start putting the run on them a bit earlier, and with the QBs that will coming off the board before the 3/4 turn, that possibly leaves a lot of RB talent left.

 

[meyerj31]

Drafting at 11 I recently ended up with...

Murray

Mathews

Nicks

Bradshaw

Maclin

Yet to pick my 6th round but Austin, Finley, Vernon, Vick are all out there still so I think I'm going to be pretty happy with my team.

 

[stbugs]

Just to throw in my 2 cents since I just drafted last night out of the #10 (12 team, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex (WR/RB/TE) spot and my goal going in was to get Graham and then Gronkowski. The way it unfolded was exactly what I planned. Not sure if it was the best, but with 2WR instead of 3WR, I figured I could get a couple decent WRs. Also, Stafford and Newton went #11 and #12, so 5 QBs in the first round. The QB I targeted was Ryan and I ended up with him in the 5th, so I was happy about that. I ended up in the 3rd/4th going Marshall and Harvin, so the 6th round was where I started to get my RBs (Martin, Brown, Hillis, Rodgers and Royster).

My RBs are my weak spot, but the guy who got Hernandez at TE also grabbed V. Davis, so my strategy seemed to work. I can start Graham at TE and Gronk at Flex and know I have a fairly large advantage at both slots and Ryan, Harvin and Marshall should be above average for those 3 slots. If I can squeeze respectability out of my RBs, I think I will be in good shape.

Never drafted like this before, but figured what the heck.

 

[stbugs]

Drafting at 11 I recently ended up with...MurrayMathewsNicksBradshawMaclinYet to pick my 6th round but Austin, Finley, Vernon, Vick are all out there still so I think I'm going to be pretty happy with my team.

I like it so far. Matthews is a little risky, but getting Bradshaw in the 4th makes that less risky. Love Nicks, but not knowing your rules, not a huge fan of Vick/Maclin this year. Vick is already getting pounded and he has barely played. Seems risky for him to easily miss some time. Pretty sure he has missed time with rib injuries in the last couple years and he is still iffy to start week 1 at 100% due to his ribs. Same thing with Austin, don't like seeing missed time due to hammies when that killed his 2011 season.

 

[Late225]

Every time I mock TE or QB in late round 1, I never like my team. I like the odds much better of finding a sleeper TE and QB later in the draft (Schaub, RG3, Roeth, Cutler, Peyton, Luck prob 2 of) or TE (Celek, Keller, Olsen) than finding a sleeper RB. McGahee as your number 1 is asking for trouble. I really like how my teams look when I go RB/WR for the first 6 rounds. I feel after 20 RBs and 30 WRs off the board, there are huge dropoffs. With TE/QB, I feel that I can find great starters up until the last round.

 

[browerjs]

Every time I mock TE or QB in late round 1, I never like my team. I like the odds much better of finding a sleeper TE and QB later in the draft (Schaub, RG3, Roeth, Cutler, Peyton, Luck prob 2 of) or TE (Celek, Keller, Olsen) than finding a sleeper RB. McGahee as your number 1 is asking for trouble. I really like how my teams look when I go RB/WR for the first 6 rounds. I feel after 20 RBs and 30 WRs off the board, there are huge dropoffs. With TE/QB, I feel that I can find great starters up until the last round.

This is pretty much the same thing I'm finding in my mocks. Although, if a top 3 QB falls to you and you go Graham or Gronk on the turn, this IMO frees up two roster spots as there is no need to carry a back up for either position, which gives you two extra shots at hitting on breakout RB/WR.Ugghhhh, 10-12 this year has to be the toughest draft position in some time.

 

[Koya]

In the midst of a slow draft from the ten slot. Qb, TE, 2rb, 2wr and a flex. As expected, the big three qbs and rbs were gone along with Calvin, CJ2 and McFadden (.5 ppr)

So, it was Murray if I went RB, but as much as I like his upside, just want to have more surety with my number one... This league doesn't penalize for INTs and it's a point for every 20 yards passing, so I went with Newton. Yes, above ADP, but I was very comfortable with the pick as I knew he'd go in the early second, mid the latest. Vick was hurting so I didn't want to wait until the third and get him and while I like Ryan, not as high on him as others.

From there, took Grahain the second, thinking if I had a clear advantage at TE vs 10 other teams and an advantage at QB over 8, I could utilize the depth at WR and the miss mash at RB to get some value picks.

1. Newton

2. Graham

Now a big run on WRs and some RBs went, including My target, Fred Jackson (mid third). Seem interesting picks include D Sproles and J Charles, obviously boosts by the .5 ppr. Thought it was too high for Sproles.

That left me with a choice bw A Peterson or Richardson. Both with significant issues but obviousl upside. As there was talk that Rich mit miss week one, and I had more faith in A Pete's backup, went with A Pete, though nervously. That said, every RB here had issues... I could see a case for D Martin I suppose, but you just don't know with Blount there still.

I was hoping against hope that Welker would be there,but he went early 2nd. Steve smith was take at the turn so I took Colston in the 4th. Didn't love it,but was comfortable as I don't see much difference between him and many / most of the WRs taken before (ie AG Green concerns me with his tea and QB, L Fitz rules but his QBs are awful. Hoped roddy white would drop, but he didn't). Just after my pick, D Thomas, P Harvin and S Johsnon went, who were all in a clear tier below those previously mentioned so I was feeling better about the Colston value.

So,

3. ADP

4. Colston

Now, I really needed to get a solid #2 RB because ADP is such a risk. Plus, as expected, we were right in the midst of the next tier of WRs started by D Thomas and Harvin so my plan to take an other RB and WR was looking solid - thought the RB was concerning me as it was getting dicey.The RBs tht went from my 4th rounder on included D Martin (whom I like) , s Greene, Bush, Turner, Gore... Nothing to love but Turner was a solid pick even with a ppr I suppose. Luckily, the guy I had been hoping would drop did, McGahee. At WR the options Included Bowe and V Jax, two of my targets, and I went with Bowe, others taking right around then included, decker and A Brown.

5. McGahee

6. D Bowe

With my next two I wanted to get an upside RB, and while it may have been a round early, needed to secure Toby Gerhart... Just not enough drop off at other positions to warrant risking losing him as his ADP was hovering in the 9 range. That said, I was strongly considering taking both AZ backs, but wells was taken at the turn after I took the upside of Williams (figuring even if beanie starts the season, he will get hurt)

7. R Williams

8. T Gerhart

With the next two, was happy to get a npyoung number 1 WR on his team with upside and targets, Greg Little, and Jaquizz Rodgers ... turners getting older and t the least he could be a serviceable emergency bye week guy with some catches.

9. G Little

10. J Rodgers

Similar start for my next two:

11. S. Vereen (could be the guy whatever that means in NE, but seems at least in line for some catches and maybe some big plays for bye weeks)

12. D Amendola (tough between he and the upside of Kendall Wright, but while Little gives big upside, Amendola is a solid plug and play player who will get a lot of looks and could easily hold down my flex if needed)

That's where I am. Everyone but one team has a backup qb, so I can hold off as there are still some ok options on the board including ponder, Bradford and locker amongst others. I usually wait on K and D and play matchups until I settle on solid options in the home stretch.

 

[kutta]

In the midst of a slow draft from the ten slot. Qb, TE, 2rb, 2wr and a flex. As expected, the big three qbs and rbs were gone along with Calvin, CJ2 and McFadden (.5 ppr)So, it was Murray if I went RB, but as much as I like his upside, just want to have more surety with my number one... This league doesn't penalize for INTs and it's a point for every 20 yards passing, so I went with Newton. Yes, above ADP, but I was very comfortable with the pick as I knew he'd go in the early second, mid the latest. Vick was hurting so I didn't want to wait until the third and get him and while I like Ryan, not as high on him as others. From there, took Grahain the second, thinking if I had a clear advantage at TE vs 10 other teams and an advantage at QB over 8, I could utilize the depth at WR and the miss mash at RB to get some value picks. 1. Newton2. GrahamNow a big run on WRs and some RBs went, including My target, Fred Jackson (mid third). Seem interesting picks include D Sproles and J Charles, obviously boosts by the .5 ppr. Thought it was too high for Sproles.That left me with a choice bw A Peterson or Richardson. Both with significant issues but obviousl upside. As there was talk that Rich mit miss week one, and I had more faith in A Pete's backup, went with A Pete, though nervously. That said, every RB here had issues... I could see a case for D Martin I suppose, but you just don't know with Blount there still.I was hoping against hope that Welker would be there,but he went early 2nd. Steve smith was take at the turn so I took Colston in the 4th. Didn't love it,but was comfortable as I don't see much difference between him and many / most of the WRs taken before (ie AG Green concerns me with his tea and QB, L Fitz rules but his QBs are awful. Hoped roddy white would drop, but he didn't). Just after my pick, D Thomas, P Harvin and S Johsnon went, who were all in a clear tier below those previously mentioned so I was feeling better about the Colston value.So,3. ADP4. ColstonNow, I really needed to get a solid #2 RB because ADP is such a risk. Plus, as expected, we were right in the midst of the next tier of WRs started by D Thomas and Harvin so my plan to take an other RB and WR was looking solid - thought the RB was concerning me as it was getting dicey.The RBs tht went from my 4th rounder on included D Martin (whom I like) , s Greene, Bush, Turner, Gore... Nothing to love but Turner was a solid pick even with a ppr I suppose. Luckily, the guy I had been hoping would drop did, McGahee. At WR the options Included Bowe and V Jax, two of my targets, and I went with Bowe, others taking right around then included, decker and A Brown.5. McGahee6. D BoweWith my next two I wanted to get an upside RB, and while it may have been a round early, needed to secure Toby Gerhart... Just not enough drop off at other positions to warrant risking losing him as his ADP was hovering in the 9 range. That said, I was strongly considering taking both AZ backs, but wells was taken at the turn after I took the upside of Williams (figuring even if beanie starts the season, he will get hurt)7. R Williams 8. T GerhartWith the next two, was happy to get a npyoung number 1 WR on his team with upside and targets, Greg Little, and Jaquizz Rodgers ... turners getting older and t the least he could be a serviceable emergency bye week guy with some catches. 9. G Little10. J RodgersSimilar start for my next two:11. S. Vereen (could be the guy whatever that means in NE, but seems at least in line for some catches and maybe some big plays for bye weeks)12. D Amendola (tough between he and the upside of Kendall Wright, but while Little gives big upside, Amendola is a solid plug and play player who will get a lot of looks and could easily hold down my flex if needed)That's where I am. Everyone but one team has a backup qb, so I can hold off as there are still some ok options on the board including ponder, Bradford and locker amongst others. I usually wait on K and D and play matchups until I settle on solid options in the home stretch.

Nice draft. I like it.I think I prefer Stafford to Newton, but that's just personal preference. I'm also not a big Bowe fan, but plugging in Decker there makes me pretty happy. I will be amazed if ADP falls to me in the third, but you never know. I think ADP/Colston at the 3/4 turn is gold.

 

[stbugs]

Every time I mock TE or QB in late round 1, I never like my team. I like the odds much better of finding a sleeper TE and QB later in the draft (Schaub, RG3, Roeth, Cutler, Peyton, Luck prob 2 of) or TE (Celek, Keller, Olsen) than finding a sleeper RB. McGahee as your number 1 is asking for trouble. I really like how my teams look when I go RB/WR for the first 6 rounds. I feel after 20 RBs and 30 WRs off the board, there are huge dropoffs. With TE/QB, I feel that I can find great starters up until the last round.

This is pretty much the same thing I'm finding in my mocks. Although, if a top 3 QB falls to you and you go Graham or Gronk on the turn, this IMO frees up two roster spots as there is no need to carry a back up for either position, which gives you two extra shots at hitting on breakout RB/WR.Ugghhhh, 10-12 this year has to be the toughest draft position in some time.

Honestly, I just didn't like the RB options available. I feel comfortable with my top 5 picks, Graham, Gronk, Marshall, Harvin and Ryan. I can honestly say :knockonwood: that those 5 will be in the starting lineup every week aside from byes and I will feel good about it. I don't feel good about my RBs, but it is a pretty competitive league and I usually draft best when I stick to who I want and don't get caught up in worrying about positions that are having runs. I like the fact that I really only have to worry about 1 position in terms of lineup decisions and waivers.

 

[Koya]

In the midst of a slow draft from the ten slot. Qb, TE, 2rb, 2wr and a flex. As expected, the big three qbs and rbs were gone along with Calvin, CJ2 and McFadden (.5 ppr)So, it was Murray if I went RB, but as much as I like his upside, just want to have more surety with my number one... This league doesn't penalize for INTs and it's a point for every 20 yards passing, so I went with Newton. Yes, above ADP, but I was very comfortable with the pick as I knew he'd go in the early second, mid the latest. Vick was hurting so I didn't want to wait until the third and get him and while I like Ryan, not as high on him as others. From there, took Grahain the second, thinking if I had a clear advantage at TE vs 10 other teams and an advantage at QB over 8, I could utilize the depth at WR and the miss mash at RB to get some value picks. 1. Newton2. GrahamNow a big run on WRs and some RBs went, including My target, Fred Jackson (mid third). Seem interesting picks include D Sproles and J Charles, obviously boosts by the .5 ppr. Thought it was too high for Sproles.That left me with a choice bw A Peterson or Richardson. Both with significant issues but obviousl upside. As there was talk that Rich mit miss week one, and I had more faith in A Pete's backup, went with A Pete, though nervously. That said, every RB here had issues... I could see a case for D Martin I suppose, but you just don't know with Blount there still.I was hoping against hope that Welker would be there,but he went early 2nd. Steve smith was take at the turn so I took Colston in the 4th. Didn't love it,but was comfortable as I don't see much difference between him and many / most of the WRs taken before (ie AG Green concerns me with his tea and QB, L Fitz rules but his QBs are awful. Hoped roddy white would drop, but he didn't). Just after my pick, D Thomas, P Harvin and S Johsnon went, who were all in a clear tier below those previously mentioned so I was feeling better about the Colston value.So,3. ADP4. ColstonNow, I really needed to get a solid #2 RB because ADP is such a risk. Plus, as expected, we were right in the midst of the next tier of WRs started by D Thomas and Harvin so my plan to take an other RB and WR was looking solid - thought the RB was concerning me as it was getting dicey.The RBs tht went from my 4th rounder on included D Martin (whom I like) , s Greene, Bush, Turner, Gore... Nothing to love but Turner was a solid pick even with a ppr I suppose. Luckily, the guy I had been hoping would drop did, McGahee. At WR the options Included Bowe and V Jax, two of my targets, and I went with Bowe, others taking right around then included, decker and A Brown.5. McGahee6. D BoweWith my next two I wanted to get an upside RB, and while it may have been a round early, needed to secure Toby Gerhart... Just not enough drop off at other positions to warrant risking losing him as his ADP was hovering in the 9 range. That said, I was strongly considering taking both AZ backs, but wells was taken at the turn after I took the upside of Williams (figuring even if beanie starts the season, he will get hurt)7. R Williams 8. T GerhartWith the next two, was happy to get a npyoung number 1 WR on his team with upside and targets, Greg Little, and Jaquizz Rodgers ... turners getting older and t the least he could be a serviceable emergency bye week guy with some catches. 9. G Little10. J RodgersSimilar start for my next two:11. S. Vereen (could be the guy whatever that means in NE, but seems at least in line for some catches and maybe some big plays for bye weeks)12. D Amendola (tough between he and the upside of Kendall Wright, but while Little gives big upside, Amendola is a solid plug and play player who will get a lot of looks and could easily hold down my flex if needed)That's where I am. Everyone but one team has a backup qb, so I can hold off as there are still some ok options on the board including ponder, Bradford and locker amongst others. I usually wait on K and D and play matchups until I settle on solid options in the home stretch.

Nice draft. I like it.I think I prefer Stafford to Newton, but that's just personal preference. I'm also not a big Bowe fan, but plugging in Decker there makes me pretty happy. I will be amazed if ADP falls to me in the third, but you never know. I think ADP/Colston at the 3/4 turn is gold.

As always, we will have our individual preferences. Stafford / Newton are certainly in that next mini tier after the top four, though personally with Newton's running, I have him very close to the top tier (guy was the #2 scorer last year). And sure, Decker vs. Bowe is arguable and in the same range, so then you plug and play which guys you'd want.I was really surprised to see ADP there late third. It seems that this was a risk averse group, and those who took risks went with J Charles and Matthews before ADP or Richardson... the WR I was confident with, figured id get S Smith or Colston and did. The RB had more risk, but thats great upside for the third round.Regardless, hopefully how my draft turned out (pretty solid drafters, a couple surprised here and there but nothing like a kicker in the 5th round type stuff) will help others see how it may flow, and then, like you, sub in the player you prefer.The takeway is if you are not happy with a question mark RB in late rd 1 / early 2, you can go QB/TE and make this work without having huge holes elsewhere.

 

[teampunjabi]

I am a big fan of b Lloyd thus year and my plan is to grab him at the start of the 4th but I really would like m Ryan as well...and I don't see him lasting until the end of the 5th.

 

[The Jerk]

I'm drafting in the 11 spot in my 12 team ppr on Sunday and am struggling.I think the OP breaks id down nicely, but I also think the OP's post shows that it's a pretty severe disadvantage to be drafting at the back end of a snake this year.At the 11 spot, the top 2 tiers of running backs are likely to be gone, as well as the top 3 QBs and megatron. What's left is the wide array of RB question marks, Jimmy Graham, or the top of the second tier WRs (who, as the OP posted out, aren't really that much ahead of the people available at the 3/4 turn). In all the mocks I've done, I end up feeling like I'm consistently reaching in rounds 1, 2 and 4, and it seems difficult to find value.

I'm in the 11th slot in a 12-team non-PPR league. I wasn't surprised at all to be 11, as this very old league allows teams to select slots based on last year's standings. As such, I've been mentally preparing all summer to be somewhere 9 to 12. I understand your sentiment concerning the disadvantage, but in part due to knowing I would be at or near 11 and also because in a sense, in my league it's a badge of honor, I've developed a slightly different attitude. (And, tooting my own horn, I'm used to it, as I almost always field a top 3 team in this league, thereby typically owning a late draft slot.)The first reason I'm not thinking of any disadvantage is because that thinking doesn't help me achieve my goal of crafting a championship team. I'm thinking of this as a challenge, as in I'm good enough to overcome any draft slot shortcoming. And really, you can go to practically any year and find examples of first and second round picks busting all over the place, regardless of specific draft slot. The challenge is still the same. Draft the best players.Given the apparent drop in value after 7-8 players this year, as the fantasy world sees it in late August, more than ever this is a year to ignore ADP and hard rankings of players in the late first and early second rounds. Basically, I don't see me winning the league by playing safe and predictable out of the 11 slot. I need to think a little outside the box and try to create a little chaos and confusion if at all possible.I am becoming increasingly open into drafting Julio Jones with my first pick (assuming Calvin is gone), as I see both a high ceiling and reasonably high floor. (My league is heavy on TDs, with yardage still counting but not as much as standard.) I am also strongly considering Gronkowski and Graham in the first or second round, hoping to both gain an advantage at a position and possibly kick off an early tight end run. I recognize that I will end up with weak RBs with this approach, but I'm not convinced I gain much by taking whatever I can get at either or both of 11 and 14 overall. I'd rather have a lot of strength at the other positions, and hope to hit on at least one RB in the middle rounds, which should be enough for me to be competitive given strength at TE, WR, and reasonable QB production if I go there in rounds 3 or 4. I'll also hit the waiver wire hard at RB as needed.I realize that it's easily to criticize this strategy as "hit a late pick and get a good free agent" and to a large extent, it clearly is. However, if the odds truly are against the 10th to 12th slot drafters anyway, why not embrace it. Given the deficit that people are describing in these late slots, I'm arguing that the later RB approach is the most likely and reasonable way to actually overcome those odds and win. Think of it this way: executing a similar draft to what the 1st-3rd slotters are doing with apparently far less attractive talent seems to be virtually a sure fire path to mediocrity. And it's not like we cannot find numerous recent examples of this strategy working out. But it can't work for you if you don't try for it.I'll be open to value at any and all spots, and I'll change my plan accordingly if certain RBs fall later than expected, in particular in round 3.But perhaps most importantly of all, don't worry about things out of your control like your draft slot. Focus on the likely players available at every turn so that at 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, etc. you get most of those picks right. 80% or more of your time should be spent outside of rounds 1 and 2. Those rounds pretty much take care of themselves. Drafting 10th-12th, you've got to be the best value drafter in your league. If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging. I'm not going to just manage a mediocre team full of safe picks.

 

[booda]

I think going AP and MJD would not be a bad start if you are picking 12th...You would have to pick up your handcuffs later on to be safe, but those 2 could be monsters to start your team.

 

[fantasy stud]

Picking at #12 with TE's lumped with WR. The top 3 QB's and Calvin will be gone. I am going RB/RB to start because I am not crazy about the RB's that are at the 3/4 turn. The WR's at the 3/4 turn look good too. I just have to figure out who to take for RB's. The most likely choices will be Murray, Forte, Lynch, Charles, SJAX. I am leaning Forte if he falls to 12 and then pairing him up with Lynch or SJAX. Anybody else having trouble picking their RB tandem at the 12/13 spot?

I went Forte and Lynch last night at 12/13. Love getting Forte here, not in love with Lynch, but trust him more than Murray, S. Jacskon, Peterson, or Charles.Came back with Brandon Marshall and Percy Harvin at 3/4. The steal had to be that D. Martin fell to me at 5 and got D. Jackson at 6. 11 qb's were already gone by the end of the 5th.

 

[booda]

Drafted out of the 12 slot tonight..This was my first FPC draft.

QB- Brady, Rothlisberger

RB- AP, Lynch, BJGE, Stewart, Deangelo Williams

WR-V. Cruz, V. Jackson, M. Crabtree, Steve Smith (STL), V. Brown, Josh Gordon

TE- O. Daniels, M. Lewis, Lance Kendricks

K. G. Hartley, N. Kaeding

Def- Jets, ravens

I realize I took a chance at the TE position. Just hoping for one of them to come through.

 

[Annyong]

i share a team with a guy and i had to attend a wedding so couldnt make it to the draft. Here is the whole draft board. We picked 11 (BonerProne)

http://i.imgur.com/wUpNi.jpg

 

[kutta]

i share a team with a guy and i had to attend a wedding so couldnt make it to the draft. Here is the whole draft board. We picked 11 (BonerProne)

http://i.imgur.com/wUpNi.jpg

My God. I love that team. I would kill to start with McFadden/Stafford in that spot.I would have taken D. Thomas instead of Dez, but overall I really like it. Doug Martin that late is awesome.

 

[browerjs]

Just had my 12 team .5 pt PPR Redraft from the 11th spot... I'm pretty happy, although I may have went a bit heavy on RB

11 Matt Forte, Chi RB

14 Darren McFadden, Oak RB

35 Julio Jones, Atl WR

38 Percy Harvin, Min WR

59 Aaron Hernandez, NE TE

62 Matt Ryan, Atl QB

83 Peyton Hillis, KC RB

86 Mark Ingram, NO RB

107 Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak WR

110 Ryan Williams, Ari RB

131 Jacquizz Rodgers, Atl RB

134 Ronnie Hillman, Den RB

155 Russell Wilson, Sea QB

158 Jerome Simpson, Min WR

179 Bills D/ST D/ST

182 Randy Bullock, Hou K

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Best Ball, 6 pts ALL, .5/1/1.5 PPR, 1-2-2-1-2(Flex)

1.10-TE Rob Gronkowski

2.03-WR Julio Jones

3.10-RB Marshawn Lynch

4.03-WR Brandon Lloyd

5.10-QB Eli Manning

6.03-WR Reggie Wayne

7.10-RB David Wilson

8.03-RB Cedric Benson

A lot left to draft but I like the start for now. RB2 will be a platoon and it is best ball.

 

[da_budman]

drafted from the 11 spot today 12 team no PPR but witha flex all td's 6 pts

Qb's went really fast so I went rb.

1.11 Chris Johnson

2.2 MJD

3.11 ryan maatthews

4.2 Nicks

5.11 Gates

6.2 Vick

Overall I was happy with the draft except for wr's ( but when you go rb rb rb something has to give) Didnt want Vick but he literally was the only qb to slide. Top 3 wrs ended up being Nicks, Wayne, and Heyward bey.

 

[sn0mm1s]

12th spot, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE 1FLEX, K, D, 18 rounds

First round went Foster, Rice, McCoy, Chris, DMac, ARod, Forte, Calvin, MJD, Brees, Lynch

Tom Brady

Jimmy Graham

Adrian Peterson

Victor Cruz

Donald Brown

Vincent Jackson

Darrius Heyward-Bey

Brandon Pettigrew

Toby Gerhart

Ben Tate

Isaac Redman

Rashard Mendenhall

Andy Dalton

Randall Cobb

Doug Baldwin

Robert Turbin

Randy Bullock

Pittsburgh

Obviously not happy with the RBs but 12th slot isn't kind in that regard unless you really want to reach.

 

[Lash]

9 spot in a 10-team redraft non-ppr and 6 pt passing TDs so WR freefall all draft long

start 1-2-3-1-1-1 no flex

(not the same as pick 10-12 in 12-team league but close enuff to use as a comparison, will post the slot # of the draft pick instead of rd)

so far my first 8 are

pick 9) DMac

pick 12) Murray

pick 29) AJGreen

pick 32) Nicks (wanted Lloyd here but he went at pick #31)

pick 49) Gates (turn guy already had his QB but no TE so held up on Ryan for 3 spots)

pick 52) Ryan

pick 69) Decker

pick 72) DMoore

 

[kutta]

Here's my draft. I'm not thrilled with it, but I do like it. I ended up taking Murray in the 2nd because Graham was gone. I didn't draft a backup QB because by the time I got around to it there was really nothing left. I will waive someone (Rudolph, Moore, or someone else) before the season starts and pick up someone.

Matthew Stafford (1)

DeMarco Murray (2)

Doug Martin (4)

Willis McGahee (5)

Ryan Williams (9)

Ronnie Hillman (11)

Alfred Morris (14)

Hakeem Nicks (3)

Steve Johnson (6)

Pierre Garcon (7)

Lance Moore (12)

Jacob Tamme (8)

Jared Cook (10)

Kyle Rudolph (13)

Matt Bryant (15)

Arizona Cardinals (16)

ETA: 12 team, non-ppr, start 1,2,2,1,1,1 (no flex).

 

[macknova]

Probably going Graham and Sproles in first 2 picks, assuming top 10 is top 3 QB, Calvin and top 6 RB. Think Graham is a beast, will take that advantage every week. The league is PPR with 25 return yards for 1 pt so Sproles is a nice combination of safe and upside in this format. I'm hoping one of the RBs falls. Not dying to take a top 3 QB in round 1, but I might anyway. Don't love the high RBs, but I don't want to leave the first two rounds without taking a chance on someone as an RB1 anchor.

 

[Imagine]

Here's my draft. I'm not thrilled with it, but I do like it. I ended up taking Murray in the 2nd because Graham was gone. I didn't draft a backup QB because by the time I got around to it there was really nothing left. I will waive someone (Rudolph, Moore, or someone else) before the season starts and pick up someone.Matthew StaffordDeMarco MurrayDoug MartinWillis McGaheeRyan WilliamsRonnie HillmanAlfred MorrisHakeem NicksSteve JohnsonPierre GarconLance MooreJacob TammeJared CookKyle RudolphMatt BryantArizona Cardinals

Hi again kutta. You were at 1.10, and I'm wondering what RBs were available to you when you took Murray, and what RBs were available to the 1.12 guy? Where did MJD go...is everyone scared off by the holdout?You mentioned that you like it, but are not thrilled with it. Looking back on your 1st and 2nd round picks, anything you'd have done differently in hindsight?In all the preps I've been doing, if you don't take at least one RB in 1st or 2nd, even if you aren't crazy about them, they really get thin fast by the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Thanks again for starting this thread...it's been very helpful.

 

[kutta]

Here's my draft. I'm not thrilled with it, but I do like it. I ended up taking Murray in the 2nd because Graham was gone. I didn't draft a backup QB because by the time I got around to it there was really nothing left. I will waive someone (Rudolph, Moore, or someone else) before the season starts and pick up someone.Matthew StaffordDeMarco MurrayDoug MartinWillis McGaheeRyan WilliamsRonnie HillmanAlfred MorrisHakeem NicksSteve JohnsonPierre GarconLance MooreJacob TammeJared CookKyle RudolphMatt BryantArizona Cardinals

Hi again kutta. You were at 1.10, and I'm wondering what RBs were available to you when you took Murray, and what RBs were available to the 1.12 guy? Where did MJD go...is everyone scared off by the holdout?You mentioned that you like it, but are not thrilled with it. Looking back on your 1st and 2nd round picks, anything you'd have done differently in hindsight?In all the preps I've been doing, if you don't take at least one RB in 1st or 2nd, even if you aren't crazy about them, they really get thin fast by the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Thanks again for starting this thread...it's been very helpful.

Here's the first two rounds of my draft. We've had this league for 18 years and it is very competitive. There are always a couple odd ball picks (see Newton), but for the most part everyone is pretty savvy.1. Foster2. Rice3. Rodgers4. Newton5. McCoy6. Brees7. Calvin8. McFadden9. Brady10. Stafford (me - I seriously considered Graham here, but I thought he'd come back to me)11. Chris Johnson12. Fitz2.1. Graham2.2. Andre Johnson2.3. DeMarco (me - I probably would have taken Julio here if DeMarco and Graham were gone. I just don't like any of the other RB's here).2.4. Forte2.5. Gronk2.6. Jones Drew2.7. Peterson2.8. Julio2.9. Welker2.10. Ryan Mathews2.11. A.J. Green2.12 Matt Ryan (a bit of a surprise, but two guys said they would have taken him in the 3rd)I really expected to end up with a QB (Brees or Stafford) and Graham. When he went, DeMarco is really the only RB I like there. I think Forte will lose too much to Bush. I'm iffy about MJD signing (if he signs I take him there in a heartbeat), I'm not going to take Peterson that early coming off the ACL, I would have taken Mathews if not for this latest injury, and it's just too early for guys like Charles and Lynch. So even though Graham was gone, I was happy to see DeMarco there. I agree RB's get really thin if you don't get one early, so overall I think things worked out OK.

 

[need2know]

Here's my draft. I'm not thrilled with it, but I do like it. I ended up taking Murray in the 2nd because Graham was gone. I didn't draft a backup QB because by the time I got around to it there was really nothing left. I will waive someone (Rudolph, Moore, or someone else) before the season starts and pick up someone.Matthew StaffordDeMarco MurrayDoug MartinWillis McGaheeRyan WilliamsRonnie HillmanAlfred MorrisHakeem NicksSteve JohnsonPierre GarconLance MooreJacob TammeJared CookKyle RudolphMatt BryantArizona Cardinals

Hi again kutta. You were at 1.10, and I'm wondering what RBs were available to you when you took Murray, and what RBs were available to the 1.12 guy? Where did MJD go...is everyone scared off by the holdout?You mentioned that you like it, but are not thrilled with it. Looking back on your 1st and 2nd round picks, anything you'd have done differently in hindsight?In all the preps I've been doing, if you don't take at least one RB in 1st or 2nd, even if you aren't crazy about them, they really get thin fast by the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Thanks again for starting this thread...it's been very helpful.

Here's the first two rounds of my draft. We've had this league for 18 years and it is very competitive. There are always a couple odd ball picks (see Newton), but for the most part everyone is pretty savvy.1. Foster2. Rice3. Rodgers4. Newton5. McCoy6. Brees7. Calvin8. McFadden9. Brady10. Stafford (me - I seriously considered Graham here, but I thought he'd come back to me)11. Chris Johnson12. Fitz2.1. Graham2.2. Andre Johnson2.3. DeMarco (me - I probably would have taken Julio here if DeMarco and Graham were gone. I just don't like any of the other RB's here).2.4. Forte2.5. Gronk2.6. Jones Drew2.7. Peterson2.8. Julio2.9. Welker2.10. Ryan Mathews2.11. A.J. Green2.12 Matt Ryan (a bit of a surprise, but two guys said they would have taken him in the 3rd)I really expected to end up with a QB (Brees or Stafford) and Graham. When he went, DeMarco is really the only RB I like there. I think Forte will lose too much to Bush. I'm iffy about MJD signing (if he signs I take him there in a heartbeat), I'm not going to take Peterson that early coming off the ACL, I would have taken Mathews if not for this latest injury, and it's just too early for guys like Charles and Lynch. So even though Graham was gone, I was happy to see DeMarco there. I agree RB's get really thin if you don't get one early, so overall I think things worked out OK.

why not go Gronk in round 2 then? I see monster seasons from graham and gronk again....Like the stafford pick and hope to get him today at 10. I did a draft with the number two pick in a league with all tds 6 pts and 5 QBs went round 1, before pick 10. So I may not even get stafford... gonna take mcfadden or maybe even graham round 1 if stafford is gone...

 

[kutta]

Here's my draft. I'm not thrilled with it, but I do like it. I ended up taking Murray in the 2nd because Graham was gone. I didn't draft a backup QB because by the time I got around to it there was really nothing left. I will waive someone (Rudolph, Moore, or someone else) before the season starts and pick up someone.Matthew StaffordDeMarco MurrayDoug MartinWillis McGaheeRyan WilliamsRonnie HillmanAlfred MorrisHakeem NicksSteve JohnsonPierre GarconLance MooreJacob TammeJared CookKyle RudolphMatt BryantArizona Cardinals

Hi again kutta. You were at 1.10, and I'm wondering what RBs were available to you when you took Murray, and what RBs were available to the 1.12 guy? Where did MJD go...is everyone scared off by the holdout?You mentioned that you like it, but are not thrilled with it. Looking back on your 1st and 2nd round picks, anything you'd have done differently in hindsight?In all the preps I've been doing, if you don't take at least one RB in 1st or 2nd, even if you aren't crazy about them, they really get thin fast by the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th. Thanks again for starting this thread...it's been very helpful.

Here's the first two rounds of my draft. We've had this league for 18 years and it is very competitive. There are always a couple odd ball picks (see Newton), but for the most part everyone is pretty savvy.1. Foster2. Rice3. Rodgers4. Newton5. McCoy6. Brees7. Calvin8. McFadden9. Brady10. Stafford (me - I seriously considered Graham here, but I thought he'd come back to me)11. Chris Johnson12. Fitz2.1. Graham2.2. Andre Johnson2.3. DeMarco (me - I probably would have taken Julio here if DeMarco and Graham were gone. I just don't like any of the other RB's here).2.4. Forte2.5. Gronk2.6. Jones Drew2.7. Peterson2.8. Julio2.9. Welker2.10. Ryan Mathews2.11. A.J. Green2.12 Matt Ryan (a bit of a surprise, but two guys said they would have taken him in the 3rd)I really expected to end up with a QB (Brees or Stafford) and Graham. When he went, DeMarco is really the only RB I like there. I think Forte will lose too much to Bush. I'm iffy about MJD signing (if he signs I take him there in a heartbeat), I'm not going to take Peterson that early coming off the ACL, I would have taken Mathews if not for this latest injury, and it's just too early for guys like Charles and Lynch. So even though Graham was gone, I was happy to see DeMarco there. I agree RB's get really thin if you don't get one early, so overall I think things worked out OK.

why not go Gronk in round 2 then? I see monster seasons from graham and gronk again....Like the stafford pick and hope to get him today at 10. I did a draft with the number two pick in a league with all tds 6 pts and 5 QBs went round 1, before pick 10. So I may not even get stafford... gonna take mcfadden or maybe even graham round 1 if stafford is gone...

I owned Gronk last year and love the guy. I just think Lloyd will cut into his production some, and I think Hernandez might actually perform about as well as Gronk. So I figured if I was going to take Gronk, I might as well wait and take Hernandez later. I seriously considered Hernandez in the 4th, but I wanted Martin there. If Hernandez would have made it to me in the 5th, I would have taken him there.

 

[cloudofdust]

Just finished a 12 team draft from the 12th spot. .5PPR, 6pts for passing TD. QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R, K, DEF, deep bench. A couple of guys auto-drafted. I wasn't expecting to draft from the 12th spot so caught a bit off guard but here's what I ended up with:

1 Forte

2 Graham

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3 ADP

4 Steve Smith

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5 Rivers

6 Stevie Johnson

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7 Gerhart

8 Luck (who dares wins?)

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9 Heyward-Bey

10 Green Bay

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11 Helu

12 Santana Moss

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13 New England

14 Collie

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15 Kaeding

16 TO (errr.....)

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17 Jerome Simpson

18 Dallas Clark

Please blast away if you think this is blast-worthy. I'm really happy with how the first 5 rounds turned out for me, and with how my DST shaked out. Taking some chances, of course, with unproven situations in Washington and IND. But, you know. Who dares wins....

EDIT: well, so much for TO....

 

[teampunjabi]

Love AP in the 3rd

 

[crazyleggs]

12 team ppr league with reversal in round 3 also IDP

Murray, DeMarco DAL RB 1.10

Newton, Cam CAR QB 2.03

Jones, Julio ATL WR 3.03

Bryant, Dez DAL WR 4.10

Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR 5.03

Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB 6.10

Peppers, Julius CHI DE 7.03

Blackmon, Justin JAC WR 8.10

Ware, Demarcus DAL LB 9.03

I was going to take Brady or Graham but they went 8 and 9. Murray was the only rb i felt comfortable drafting here as dmac and the big 3 were gone. I also thougyt i could get gronk on the way back but he went at 2.02. I didnt like any rb/wr enough in round 2 and gambled with Cam because i knew i could still get a top wr in round 3. Pretty happy with the rest so far and im getting ready for round 10-11 now.

 

[teampunjabi]

Just finished my draft in my money league. What do you guys think?

QB: Michael Vick, Robert Griffin III

RB: DeMarco Murray, Chris Johnson, Stevan Ridley, Mikel Leshoure, Jacquizz Rodgers

WR: Denarius Moore, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Brandon Lloyd, Titus Young, Brandon LaFell

TE: Aaron Hernandez

PK: Nate Kaeding

TD: Buffalo Bills