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The Official Staff/Messageboard Survivor Thread (1 Viewer)

League 1 Player                League 2

1.07 Clinton Portis 1.07

2.03 Domanick Davis 2.06

2.10 Daunte Culpepper 3.07

4.05 Tony Gonzalez 4.06

4.12 Eric Moulds 5.07

6.07 Tatum Bell                6.06

7.11 Amani Toomer 7.07

8.08 Kyle Boller                8.06

8.11 Kellen Winslow 9.07

10.07 Onterrio Smith 10.06

13.05 Roy Williams 11.07

14.07 Reggie Williams 12.06

14.05 Jeff  Wilkins 13.07

16.08 Jay  Feely                14.06

17.06 Buffalo Bills 15.07

12.03 Dennis Northcutt 16.06

N/A Gus Frerotte 17.07

18.01 Oakland Raiders 18.06

18.07 New Orleans Saints 19.07

16.12 Michael Pittman 20.06
Value Based Drafting.
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League 1 Player League 2

1.02 Priest Holmes 1.02

2.11 Corey Dillon 2.11

2.08 Duce Staley 3.02

4.09 Laveranues Coles 4.11

5.09 Aaron Brooks 5.02

6.10 Carson Palmer 6.11

7.03 Josh McCown 7.02

6.11 Javon Walker 8.11

9.09 Keyshawn Johnson 9.02

10.04 Willis McGahee 10.11

10.03 Boo Williams 11.02

15.10 Muhsin Muhammad 12.11

14.08 Kevin Johnson 13.02

15.03 Josh Brown 14.11

13.11 Denver Broncos 15.02

19.04 Olindo Mare 16.11

14.10 Marcus Pollard 17.02

19.02 Washington Redskins 18.11

14.11 Justin Gage 19.02

15.02 Rashaun Woods 20.11

Not bad. The only guys that I may have "reached" for compared to league 1 were Muhsin Muhammad and Kevin Johnson. Biggest steals include Duce Staley, Javon Walker, Boo Williams, Marcus Pollard, Justin Gage, and Rashaun Woods.

 
League 1 Player League 2

1.07 Clinton Portis 1.07

2.03 Domanick Davis 2.06

2.10 Daunte Culpepper 3.07

4.05 Tony Gonzalez 4.06

4.12 Eric Moulds 5.07

6.07 Tatum Bell 6.06

7.11 Amani Toomer 7.07

8.08 Kyle Boller 8.06

8.11 Kellen Winslow 9.07

10.07 Onterrio Smith 10.06

13.05 Roy Williams 11.07

14.07 Reggie Williams 12.06

14.05 Jeff Wilkins 13.07

16.08 Jay Feely 14.06

17.06 Buffalo Bills 15.07

12.03 Dennis Northcutt 16.06

N/A Gus Frerotte 17.07

18.01 Oakland Raiders 18.06

18.07 New Orleans Saints 19.07

16.12 Michael Pittman 20.06
Value Based Drafting.
I'm a little slow this morning, but am I to believe in your highlight that you're in league 2 BFred and that the VBD you suggest is your team?If so, good value.

 
1.01 LaDainian Tomlinson 1.01

3.04 Chad Johnson 2.12

3.06 Terrell Owens 3.01

4.01 Warrick Dunn 4.12

6.05 Darrell Jackson 5.01

7.04 Joey Harrington 7.01

7.05 Drew Bledsoe 6.12

8.04 David Boston 8.12

8.07 Alge Crumpler 9.01

11.12 Randy McMichael 10.12

12.05 Anthony Thomas 12.12

12.07 Mike Vanderjagt 13.01

12.08 Carolina Panthers 11.01

14.01 Lamont Jordan 14.12

15.07 Chris Perry 15.01

18.06 Bobby Engram 20.12

N/A Artose Pinner 16.12

N/A Labrandon Toefield 17.01

N/A Drew Brees 18.12

N/A Paul Edinger 19.01
That's my team. As I was putting the list together I noticed several things about my team and just in general. As for my team, I have 7 players that I drafted before they were taken in League 1's draft, and 8 players that I drafted after being taken in League 1 (value). Not TOO bad. The real surprising thing, is the number of reaches I have - 4 players that were not even drafted in the other league (more than anyone else). Hehe, we'll see if I am some sort of sage or some kind of looney tune. :D My biggest reaches of players/teams that were drafted in both leagues: Darrell Jackson at 5.01 (was not taken until 6.05 in League 1) and the Carolina Panthers at 11.01 (was not taken until 12.08).

My biggest values of players/teams that were drafted in both leagues: Warrick Dunn at 4.12 (was taken at 4.01 in League 1), LaMont Jordan at 14.12 (was taken at 14.01 in League 1), and Bobby Engram at 20.12 (was taken at 18.06 in League 1).

 
I don't think draft pick numbers are a good way to determine value as each draft can eb and flow differently accounting for runs in one league that may not occur until different times as another. But interesting enough.

 
I don't think draft pick numbers are a good way to determine value as each draft can eb and flow differently accounting for runs in one league that may not occur until different times as another. But interesting enough.
Agreed.
 
I don't think draft pick numbers are a good way to determine value as each draft can eb and flow differently accounting for runs in one league that may not occur until different times as another. But interesting enough.
True, but if you look at ALL of your picks and you got "value" with the majority of them, I believe you can conclude that you did well.
 
I don't think draft pick numbers are a good way to determine value as each draft can eb and flow differently accounting for runs in one league that may not occur until different times as another. But interesting enough.
True, but if you look at ALL of your picks and you got "value" with the majority of them, I believe you can conclude that you did well.
I beleive that is a reasonable assumption if we agree what 'value' is. It could be getting someone later than their daft spot, but it could also mean grabbing someone earlier than their draft spot to lock up rb handcuffs or wr tandems. Value to one team greatly differs from value to the next. In fact, every pick should offer some 'value' one way or another, so in reality your statement means nothing.
 
how does the QB squeeze look now?Grouse is down to 1 starting QB in Marc Bulger.
too early to tell.but I do enjoy the 'I told you so' guys that start climbing out already.
 
how does the QB squeeze look now?Grouse is down to 1 starting QB in Marc Bulger.
The effect remains the same...it hurt a couple of MB teams, but strengthened the top tier MB Teams. I personally ranked Grouse's squad #9 and sited QB Risk as one of his weaknesses. The Staff needs to worry about the top teams...not the bottom ones.Fro, Joe T, Fred etc.
 
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how does the QB squeeze look now?Grouse is down to 1 starting QB in Marc Bulger.
I didn't get 'squeezed' as you suggest.Screwed by my own strategy, perhaps.But I think it is both unnecessary grandstanding and an erroneous correlation between Quincy Carter's cocaine test/release, and my not having a starting backup QB and subsequently claiming this predicament is a result of the Staff's QB Squeeze Play.Again....By the time Round 7 rolled around, I was the only team with only 1 QB on my roster. Guys like Carr, Maddox, Rattay & Grossman were still on the board for my 7th round pick. Again, I was the only team with only 1 QB on my roster at that point in the draft with quality backups in Carr, Maddox, Rattay & Grossman still on the board. I chose to draft Chambers and wait for Carter who had top-15 numbers last year and I thought was extremely likely to retain his job and represent good value as a backup. This was my choice. I didn't get squeezed. I could've had Bulger and Carr as my QB's IF that was what I'd wanted. I gambled on Carter, and it may cost me the competition.But cocaine? C'mon? The job was his. Maybe Henson has looked good. But, the job was Carter's for this year. Cocaine? FFFAAAAAK!
 
Cocaine? FFFAAAAAK!
I'd put cocaine in the same category as a freak injury. That kind of stuff happens. It's one reason carrying only two QBs instead of three is a gamble.Not that gambles are always bad.
 
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how does the QB squeeze look now?Grouse is down to 1 starting QB in Marc Bulger.
I didn't get 'squeezed' as you suggest.Screwed by my own strategy, perhaps.
the point is that if we didn't hit QBs as hard as we did, you may have still had a better selection of QBs in round 8. yes, you could have grabbed one in 7 and likely been in better shape right now. But, you took a risk, which ended up hurting your team in the end.the point of the squeeze, IMO, is that it leaves little margin for error in sitautions like yours. It was very tempting to pass on a "marginal" backup QB at 7.03 for a WR like Chambers...but, in doing so, you left yourself little wiggle room as there were few QBs left when the draft got back to you at 8.10. If you pick the wrong QB2 and/or QB3, your team is in trouble.Meanwhile, the staff's plan of each grabbing 3 QBs that were unlikely to be benched or cut put us in a position where we didn't have to worry about losing 1 of our QBs unexpectedly during the preseason as we'd still have 2 others ready to go.Honestly not trying to rub it in here. Just trying to talk strategy, and I know a lot of people questioned the effectiveness and the soundness of the staff strategy. Personally, I think how well it worked is becoming more and more obvious as things like this continue to occur.
 
the point of the squeeze, IMO, is that it leaves little margin for error in sitautions like yours. It was very tempting to pass on a "marginal" backup QB at 7.03 for a WR like Chambers...but, in doing so, you left yourself little wiggle room as there were few QBs left when the draft got back to you at 8.10. If you pick the wrong QB2 and/or QB3, your team is in trouble.
:no:Why are you putting words in my mouth? Tempting?I wanted Quincy Carter to be my backup QB. :wall: I never planned on drafting more than 2 QB's. Kerry Collins was an accidental indulgence in round 12.Bad strategy? Maybe so. But the Staff's run on QB's had nothing to do with my strategy nor its' net result. Had I felt squeezed by the Staff as you suggest, I would have deviated from my strategy and taken a backup QB earlier than I'd planned in round 7 rather than draft Chambers after seeing so many QB's run off the board. Not the other way around. My margin for error may have been slimmer than others, but that was of my choosing, not the result of any Staff strategy.Stop pimpin' my bad strategy as a notch on your belt when it doesn't belong there. :boxing:
 
the point of the squeeze, IMO, is that it leaves little margin for error in sitautions like yours. It was very tempting to pass on a "marginal" backup QB at 7.03 for a WR like Chambers...but, in doing so, you left yourself little wiggle room as there were few QBs left when the draft got back to you at 8.10. If you pick the wrong QB2 and/or QB3, your team is in trouble.
:no:Why are you putting words in my mouth? Tempting?I wanted Quincy Carter to be my backup QB. :wall: I never planned on drafting more than 2 QB's. Kerry Collins was an accidental indulgence in round 12.Bad strategy? Maybe so. But the Staff's run on QB's had nothing to do with my strategy nor its' net result. Had I felt squeezed by the Staff as you suggest, I would have deviated from my strategy and taken a backup QB earlier than I'd planned in round 7 rather than draft Chambers after seeing so many QB's run off the board. Not the other way around. My margin for error may have been slimmer than others, but that was of my choosing, not the result of any Staff strategy.Stop pimpin' my bad strategy as a notch on your belt when it doesn't belong there. :boxing:
Is there an echo in here? Laptopaccount posted the same thing two minutes ago.
 
since Fred pointed it out in League 1...might as well mention how the Boston news affects Sinrman's team here.Week 5 WRs for Sinrman:Darrell JacksonBobby Engram :bag:

 
Let's take a look...

Sinrman

Pick Pos Name Team

01.01 RB LaDainian Tomlinson SD/10

02.12 WR Chad Johnson Cin/5

03.01 WR Terrell Owens Phi/5

04.12 RB Warrick Dunn Atl/9

05.01 WR Darrell Jackson Sea/4

06.12 QB Drew Bledsoe Buf/3

07.01 QB Joey Harrington Det/4

08.12 WR David Boston Mia/10 OUT

09.01 TE Alge Crumpler Atl/9

10.12 TE Randy McMichael Mia/10

11.01 Def Carolina Panthers Car/3

12.12 RB Anthony Thomas Chi/5 STRAINED ADOMONAL MUSCLE

13.01 PK Mike Vanderjagt Ind/6

14.12 RB Lamont Jordan NYJ/3

15.01 RB Chris Perry Cin/5

16.12 RB Artose Pinner Det/4

17.01 RB Labrandon Toefield Jac/9 HIGH ANKLE SPRAIN

18.12 QB Drew Brees SD/10

19.01 PK Paul Edinger Chi/5

20.12 WR Bobby Engram Sea/4

Grouse

Pick Pos Name Team

01.03 RB Deuce McAllister NO/8

02.10 RB Rudi Johnson Cin/5

03.03 RB Julius Jones Dal/4

04.10 TE Todd Heap Bal/6

05.03 QB Marc Bulger StL/8

06.10 WR Koren Robinson Sea/4

07.03 WR Chris Chambers Mia/10

08.10 QB Quincy Carter Dal/4 RELEASED, SIGNED BY JETS - BACKUP

09.03 WR Justin McCareins NYJ/3

10.10 RB Quentin Griffin Den/10

11.03 WR Donald Driver GB/9

12.10 QB Kerry Collins Oak/10 GANNON #1

13.03 RB Musa Smith Bal/6

14.10 WR Marcus Robinson Min/4 NAGGING INJURIES - DEMOTED TO #3

15.03 RB Greg Jones Jac/9

16.10 TE Erron Kinney Ten/9

17.03 Def Seattle Seahawks Sea/4

18.10 Def Indianapolis Colts Ind/6

19.03 PK John Hall Was/7

20.10 PK Billy Cundiff Dal/4

Rebel34

Pick Pos Name Team

01.05 RB Shaun Alexander Sea/4

02.08 RB Marcel Shipp Ari/6 OUT

03.05 QB Peyton Manning Ind/6

04.08 WR Steve Smith Car/3

05.05 WR Andre Johnson Hou/7

06.08 QB Byron Leftwich Jac/9

07.05 RB DeShaun Foster Car/3

08.08 WR Larry Fitzgerald Ari/6

09.05 WR Jerry Porter Oak/10

10.08 RB Steven Jackson StL/8

11.05 TE Freddie Jones Ari/6

12.08 WR Drew Bennett Ten/9

13.05 PK Adam Vinatieri NE/3

14.08 QB Philip Rivers SD/10

15.05 RB Maurice Morris Sea/4

16.08 WR Lee Evans Buf/3

17.05 PK Kris Brown Hou/7

18.08 TE Ben Troupe Ten/9

19.05 Def Atlanta Falcons Atl/9

20.08 Def Arizona Cardinals Ari/6

Bostonfred

Pick Pos Name Team

01.07 RB Clinton Portis Was/7 LOSS OF LINEMAN

02.06 RB Domanick Davis Hou/7

03.07 QB Daunte Culpepper Min/4

04.06 TE Tony Gonzalez KC/5 NAGGING STRESS FRACTURE IN FOOT

05.07 WR Eric Moulds Buf/3

06.06 RB Tatum Bell Den/10 FINGER & CROWDED BACKFIELD

07.07 WR Amani Toomer NYG/6

08.06 QB Kyle Boller Bal/6

09.07 TE Kellen Winslow Cle/8

10.06 RB Onterrio Smith Min/4 SUSPENDED FOR 4 GAMES DURING SEASON

11.07 WR Roy Williams Det/4

12.06 WR Reggie Williams Jac/9

13.07 PK Jeff Wilkins StL/8

14.06 PK Jay Feely Atl/9

15.07 Def Buffalo Bills Buf/3

16.06 WR Dennis Northcutt Cle/8

17.07 QB Gus Frerotte Min/4

18.06 Def Oakland Raiders Oak/10

19.07 Def New Orleans Saints NO/8

20.06 RB Michael Pittman TB/8

Sandbagger

Pick Pos Name Team

01.09 RB Ricky Williams Mia/10 RETIRED

02.04 RB Travis Henry Buf/3 RISE OF MCGAHEE

03.09 WR Hines Ward Pit/7

04.04 TE Jeremy Shockey NYG/6 INJURED FOOT

05.09 QB Brett Favre GB/9

06.04 QB Brad Johnson TB/8

07.09 WR Keenan McCardell TB/8 HOLDOUT

08.04 RB Garrison Hearst Den/10 CROWDED BACKFIELD

09.09 RB Eddie George Ten/9 JONES #1 - HAS LOOKED TERRIBLE

10.04 WR Quincy Morgan Cle/8

11.09 WR Deion Branch NE/3

12.04 TE Itula Mili Sea/4 DEMOTED TO #2

13.09 PK Jason Elam Den/10

14.04 PK Ryan Longwell GB/9

15.09 Def St. Louis Rams StL/8 DEFENSE STRUGGLING

16.04 QB Rich Gannon Oak/10

17.09 WR Josh Reed Buf/3

18.04 WR Troy Brown NE/3

19.09 RB Amos Zereoue Oak/10 CROWDED BACKFIELD

20.04 Def San Francisco 49ers SF/7

Twilight

Pick Pos Name Team

01.11 WR Randy Moss Min/4

02.02 WR Marvin Harrison Ind/6

03.11 RB Thomas Jones Chi/5

04.02 RB T.J. Duckett Atl/9

05.11 QB Chad Pennington NYJ/3

06.02 RB Lee Suggs Cle/8

07.11 QB AJ Feeley Mia/10 LOSS OF BOSTON & WILLIAMS

08.02 RB William Green Cle/8 SUGGS THE LIKELY STARTER

09.11 WR Donte' Stallworth NO/8

10.02 WR Brandon Lloyd SF/7

11.11 WR Tyrone Calico Ten/9 KNEE SURGERY - WILL MISS AT LEAST 3 WEEKS

12.02 TE L.J. Smith Phi/5

13.11 RB Kevin Faulk NE/3

14.02 PK David Akers Phi/5

15.11 Def Jacksonville Jaguars Jac/9

16.02 PK John Kasay Car/3

17.11 Def Minnesota Vikings Min/4

18.02 QB Eli Manning NYG/6

19.11 Def Cincinnati Bengals Cin/5

20.02 TE Jerramy Stevens Sea/4

Aaron Rudnicki

Pick Pos Name Team

01.02 RB Priest Holmes KC/5

02.11 RB Corey Dillon NE/3

03.02 RB Duce Staley Pit/7

04.11 WR Laveranues Coles Was/7

05.02 QB Aaron Brooks NO/8

06.11 QB Carson Palmer Cin/5

07.02 QB Josh McCown Ari/6 LOSS OF BOLDIN & SHIPP

08.11 WR Javon Walker GB/9

09.02 WR Keyshawn Johnson Dal/4

10.11 RB Willis McGahee Buf/3 HENRY #1

11.02 TE Boo Williams NO/8

12.11 WR Muhsin Muhammad Car/3

13.02 WR Kevin Johnson Bal/6

14.11 PK Josh Brown Sea/4

15.02 Def Denver Broncos Den/10

16.11 PK Olindo Mare Mia/10

17.02 TE Marcus Pollard Ind/6

18.11 Def Washington Redskins Was/7

19.02 WR Justin Gage Chi/5

20.11 WR Rashaun Woods SF/7

Mike Anderson

Pick Pos Name Team

01.04 RB Ahman Green GB/9 DINGED KNEE

02.09 RB Stephen Davis Car/3

03.04 RB Brian Westbrook Phi/5

04.09 QB Matt Hasselbeck Sea/4

05.04 WR Anquan Boldin Ari/6 OUT FOR 2-3 MONTHS

06.09 QB Mark Brunell Was/7 LOSS OF LINEMAN & RAMSEY PRESENCE

07.04 QB Rex Grossman Chi/5 PRESEASON STRUGGLES

08.09 WR Isaac Bruce StL/8

09.04 WR Ashley Lelie Den/10

10.09 Def New England Patriots NE/3

11.04 Def Miami Dolphins Mia/10

12.09 RB Jerome Bettis Pit/7

13.04 WR Johnnie Morton KC/5 INJURED ACHILLES - OUT ???

14.09 WR Ike Hilliard NYG/6

15.04 PK Aaron Elling Min/4 RELEASED

16.09 TE Billy Miller Hou/7

17.04 WR Eric Parker SD/10

18.09 PK Jason Hanson Det/4

19.04 Def Kansas City Chiefs KC/5

20.09 TE Anthony Becht NYJ/3

Chris Smith

Pick Pos Name Team

01.06 RB Edgerrin James Ind/6

02.07 RB Michael Bennett Min/4 DINGED KNEE - INJURY PRONE

03.06 RB Charlie Garner TB/8

04.07 QB Steve McNair Ten/9

05.06 QB Trent Green KC/5

06.07 WR Jimmy Smith Jac/9

07.06 QB David Carr Hou/7

08.07 WR Rod Smith Den/10

09.06 WR Plaxico Burress Pit/7

10.07 Def Baltimore Ravens Bal/6

11.06 WR Joey Galloway TB/8

12.07 TE Bubba Franks GB/9

13.06 Def Tennessee Titans Ten/9

14.07 RB Mike Alstott TB/8

15.06 TE Daniel Graham NE/3

16.07 PK John Carney NO/8

17.06 RB Tony Hollings Hou/7

18.07 WR Corey Bradford Hou/7

19.06 WR Travis Taylor Bal/6

20.07 PK Doug Brien NYJ/3

Maurile Tremblay

Pick Pos Name Team

01.08 RB Jamal Lewis Bal/6 TRIAL SET FOR NOV. 1 - MISS HOW MUCH?

02.05 WR Torry Holt StL/8

03.08 RB Curtis Martin NYJ/3

04.05 WR Derrick Mason Ten/9

05.08 QB Tom Brady NE/3

06.05 QB Jake Plummer Den/10

07.08 QB Tim Rattay SF/7 TORN GROIN & TENDONITIS

08.05 WR Marty Booker Chi/5 TRADE TO MIAMI - NOT #1 ANYMORE

09.08 RB Correll Buckhalter Phi/5 OUT

10.05 RB Moe Williams Min/4

11.08 WR Jerry Rice Oak/10

12.05 WR Andre' Davis Cle/8

13.08 TE Desmond Clark Chi/5

14.05 PK Matt Stover Bal/6

15.08 TE Jason Witten Dal/4

16.05 PK Martin Gramatica TB/8

17.08 Def Green Bay Packers GB/9

18.05 Def Chicago Bears Chi/5

19.08 Def San Diego Chargers SD/10

20.05 WR Kevin Dyson SD/10

David Yudkin

Pick Pos Name Team

01.10 RB Fred Taylor Jac/9

02.03 RB Tiki Barber NYG/6 RISE OF DAYNE = REDUCED ROLE?

03.10 QB Michael Vick Atl/9 STRUGGLED TREMENDOUSLY THIS PRESEASON

04.03 RB Chris Brown Ten/9

05.10 WR Santana Moss NYJ/3

06.03 QB Jake Delhomme Car/3

07.10 QB Tommy Maddox Pit/7

08.03 WR Charles Rogers Det/4

09.10 RB Richie Anderson Dal/4

10.03 WR Peter Warrick Cin/5

11.10 Def Tampa Bay Buccaneers TB/8

12.03 WR Eddie Kennison KC/5

13.10 TE Antonio Gates SD/10

14.03 Def Dallas Cowboys Dal/4

15.10 PK Joe Nedney Ten/9

16.03 TE Jim Kleinsasser Min/4

17.10 WR Terry Glenn Dal/4

18.03 PK Morten Andersen KC/5 RELEASED

19.10 RB Tyrone Wheatley Oak/10

20.03 RB Troy Hambrick Oak/10 CROWDED BACKFIELD

Shawn Culcasi

Pick Pos Name Team

01.12 RB Kevan Barlow SF/7 STRUGGLING OFFENSE HURTS VALUE

02.01 RB Marshall Faulk StL/8

03.12 RB Kevin Jones Det/4 SPLIT TIME WITH PINNER?

04.01 QB Donovan McNabb Phi/5

05.12 WR Joe Horn NO/8

06.01 QB Jeff Garcia Cle/8

07.12 WR Peerless Price Atl/9

08.01 QB Kurt Warner NYG/6

09.12 WR Reggie Wayne Ind/6

10.01 WR Rod Gardner Was/7

11.12 TE Dallas Clark Ind/6

12.01 WR David Givens NE/3

13.12 Def Philadelphia Eagles Phi/5

14.01 RB Shawn Bryson Det/4 LOOKS TO BE #3, NOT #2 RB

15.12 TE Eric Johnson SF/7

16.01 PK Sebastian Janikowski Oak/10

17.12 RB Ladell Betts Was/7

18.01 Def Pittsburgh Steelers Pit/7

19.12 Def Detroit Lions Det/4

20.01 PK Shayne Graham Cin/5

Updated as of 9/04/04. I'm sure I missed one or two... I think a lot of us are praying that preseason ends NOW!

 
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Looks like Rebel34, Aaron Rudnicki, and Chris Smith so far have been the lucky ones. I struggled to find even ONE thing wrong with their teams so far this preseason.

 
Looking over the rosters again, I want to upgrade 2 teams.1. David Yudkin: Dave, Why did you have to take Vick? You have a different QB there like a McNair or Trent Green and I'd put you there as one of the top 2. I like the value he has in almost every round. Tiki Barber won't be affected by Dayne as most think.2. Twilight: I don't like going Stud Wr because it forces your next Rb selections to be right on or you'll struggle at RB all season. However, Twilight did a very good job in getting Thomas Jones who appears ready for a breakout season and he's got Lee Suggs who also appears solid. Good for you Twilight. He's got as good as chance as anyone heading into this season.

 
some interesting comments throughout this thread, but just felt like revisiting this simulation that Dodds ran.Estimated Odds for making the merger:

Rudnicki 64.33%

Tremblay 47.95%

Sandbagger 46.78%

Yudkin 45.61%

BostonFred 39.77%

Sinrman 36.26%

Smith 35.09%

Anderson 35.09%

Culcasi 29.24%

Grouse 12.87%

Twilight 3.51%

Rebel34 3.51%

teams that made the merger are highlighted in bold. Looks like Rebel was a heck of a longshot making it this far :thumbup: and bagger choked (again).

Total Points at Merger:

1. Culcasi 2054.60 :thumbup:

2. Rudnicki 1935.25 :thumbup:

3. BostonFred 1926.56 :thumbup:

4. Sinrman 1841.30

5. Rebel34 1827.50 :thumbup:

6. Tremblay 1778.45

7. Yudkin 1738.35

8. Smith 1690.15

9. Grouse 1627.40

10. Anderson 1595.90

11. Twilight 1589.90

12. Sandbagger 1308.25 :X

:football:

 
Half and half MB/Staff at the merger.I take a few things from this so far:1) team QB squeeze play by the staff was not successful2) rebel is a perfect example of why you have to follow your own calls and use "expert" opinions as advice, not as gospel - your draft on paper on August 31 is no reflection of what your draft will look like in reality on Dec. 1.3) Aaron and B-Fred have established, over and over in multiple drafts, that they are two of the best survivor drafters in the FBGuys.com world - staff, MB, or otherwise.

 

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