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One of my favorites is La Cote d'Or Cafe in Arlington. It is at the exit of 66 near the East Falls Church metro. Delicious French food. Too bad for her on the wine, but hey, you get a Designated Driver!

Here is the website, but for some reason the menu isn't working. Look at Zomato (used to be urbanspoon) for the menu.

 
Suggestions for a last supper with a spouse before a parasite pops out of her which will inhibit our ability to have a nice dinner for several years?  I'm thinking of getting out of the city a little bit while the time allows it, and since we didn't get the chance for a baby moon.  Trummer's on Main is one that I'm thinking of.  Is that worth it?  Other suggestions?

FWIW, my wife is partial to steak and since she can't have wine, I guess I'll at least let her have steak.
Way to bury the lead there, guy.  Congratulations!

 
I've only had lunch at Trummer's once and it was good. Gets great reviews. And Clifton is a nice little town to walk around for a few minutes.

The Ashby Inn in Paris, VA, is a good romantic spot too. Further out than Clifton, but a drive out 50 through Middleburg and Upperville is one of the best.

 
Wait, don't you have to cook the **** out of a steak for a pregnant diner?  I spent nine months crying over what my wife made me do to some perfect grass fed ribeyes.

Haven't been to Trummer's but Clifton is charming.

 
Wait, don't you have to cook the **** out of a steak for a pregnant diner?  I spent nine months crying over what my wife made me do to some perfect grass fed ribeyes.

Haven't been to Trummer's but Clifton is charming.
If I'm supposed to, that's news to me, as I've been grilling as I normally do.  I thought it was just bacteria on the outside that was the problem, but I don't really know.

 
Wife wants us to take the kids into see "the museums" on Tuesday next week. I assume she wants the natural history or the air and space. I think she has some monument jumping in mind as well. We have never taken the kids to the monuments or the museums. We usually go once a year to the zoo and a couple of times a year take a drive in to do various things (see family, play in soccer tournaments, etc.)

I imagine it won't be crowded on a random March Tuesday.

 
Any news on peak bloom for the Cherry Blossoms?  I'll be back in the District the week of 3/28 for work and hoping to see some blooms.

I could google it but you guys have the best information.  

 
CWG is predicting an early peak.  3/24-3/28.  So right in your wheelhouse.
Score for me, but my wife is gonna be pissed.  Oh well.  I told her she should tag along.  

These are mostly around the tidal basin, right?  Just take the metro to the Smithsonian stop then hoof it down there?  Some are in others parks also, right?  Faragut Square and other parks and squares too. 

 
Yes, Tidal Basin is the place for cherry blossoms and Smithsonian is the closest Metro station. They are in other parts of the city, but not nearly as many as there are at the Tidal Basin. 

 
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CWG is predicting an early peak.  3/24-3/28.  So right in your wheelhouse.
National Park Service is saying 3/18-3/23 based on this amazing weather.

 
Suggestions for a last supper with a spouse before a parasite pops out of her which will inhibit our ability to have a nice dinner for several years?  I'm thinking of getting out of the city a little bit while the time allows it, and since we didn't get the chance for a baby moon.  Trummer's on Main is one that I'm thinking of.  Is that worth it?  Other suggestions?

FWIW, my wife is partial to steak and since she can't have wine, I guess I'll at least let her have steak.
Hi Don Q, sorry I missed this; in case you haven't gone out for your dinner yet...there have been several reasonable suggestions offered already, and here's mine:

https://www.patowmackfarm.com/

Not far from Leesburg, VA, you could get here just over an hour from the heart of DC.

I got to know the Chef, Tarver King, when he was at the Goodstone Inn, and then at the Ashby Inn, which I someone already mentioned. What he's doing here is better than both, IMHO. The dude is seriously talented. In the 'metro area' outside of DC city, proper, I don't think there's a better Chef cooking right now, for a pretty wide radius...

I've been to Trummer's  only once, and it was a few years ago, and I enjoyed the drive out...let me say that the area is beautiful, and what they're doing certainly is unique out there, and I think that made it appear to be better than what it was, if it had anything competitive to compare it to in the immediate vicinity. Like a lot of hot, higher end restaurants, especially recently, knowing what I know about food costs, among other expenses, and business plan, and running an establishment efficiently, I came away feeling that it was expensive for what it was, which is a huge pet peeve of mine. So the drive back wasn't as pleasant...however, to be fair, folks who I respect, who have been there more recently, have paid it compliments, and the current Chef, Austin Fausett, was not cooking there when I ate there, and he has a very impressive resume, and it's quite likely it's evolved since my last visit, and I should give it another shot.

Oh, crap. For the sake of it, I just took a look at the current dinner menu, and it's certainly solid, but I will say this: one of the criteria you can reliably use to evaluate the talent of a Chef is his skill at making soup. While I have plenty of room for improvement in many areas, I'd like to think I'm a pretty competent soup maker. It annoys me to see any soup, especially one without a protein component involved, being offered for over $9. Double-digits for a vegetable soup, in most cases, isn't being honest or fair to the diner. Now, if I'm eating in Manhattan at LeBernardin or Jean-Georges among others, that's one thing, but in this case, $12 for Curry Cauliflower Soup, here, in Clifton, VA, is just price gouging, which is my biggest pet peeve. Cheese is something I'm very proficient with, especially American Farmstead and Artisanal cheeses, and that's a pretty lame selection for $18. There's no excuse for 6 Rappahanock River Oysters for $17, the garnishes don't elevate that to anything more than a $13 app, max - again, based on what they cost, $2/oyster, when served raw on the half-shell, is an absolutely hard ceiling for me when writing a menu. Otherwise, you just aren't being honest and fair. Shaved Artichoke (and at this time of year, those better be sunchokes/Jerusalem Artichokes - which, although delicious, are a cheap root vegetable that's a garden/farm invasive pest that literally take no skill and little cost to grow well) and Arugula Salad oh, wait for it...with black truffles ... for $18. You'd better get a helluva lot of truffle, and I mean an almost inedible amount, to elevate a salad with no protein component, to $18...in Clifton, VA. Truffles, truffles everywhere...seemingly just to increase prices. Bone Marrow and Sweetbread apps for low-to-mid teens, smoked salmon tartare, not carpaccio, but tartare for $12...'From the Garden' : vegetable dishes in the low $20's...'Sustainable Seafoods' : you know how many littleneck clams you'd have to serve to justify selling that dish for $25, even with octopus included (as a secondary ingredient, mind you, meaning you're getting less of it than littleneck clams)...

...cripes, I'm supposed to be handicapping college basketball games, and I've gone off on a freaking tangent...but prices do that to me, just because I know what I know...all I'm going to say is that if you are willing and able to afford what they're apparently charging at Trummer's, if you shop around, you can find at least a dozen restaurants in the greater DC area where the value alone is better than what's presented here. You're going to spend as much at Patowmack Farm, and at least a known and tremendously respected, commodity, Tarver King, is cooking your dinner...I gotta get to basketball...

...congrats on the impending delivery! T&P for a safe and healthy wife and child, Dad!

 
I just can't get in to cheeses. I don't think I've ever ordered a cheese plate while dining out. I'm probably doing something wrong; or my palate is not sophisticated enough to appreciate a quality cheese.

 
Hi Don Q, sorry I missed this; in case you haven't gone out for your dinner yet...there have been several reasonable suggestions offered already, and here's mine:

https://www.patowmackfarm.com/

Not far from Leesburg, VA, you could get here just over an hour from the heart of DC.

I got to know the Chef, Tarver King, when he was at the Goodstone Inn, and then at the Ashby Inn, which I someone already mentioned. What he's doing here is better than both, IMHO. The dude is seriously talented. In the 'metro area' outside of DC city, proper, I don't think there's a better Chef cooking right now, for a pretty wide radius...

I've been to Trummer's  only once, and it was a few years ago, and I enjoyed the drive out...let me say that the area is beautiful, and what they're doing certainly is unique out there, and I think that made it appear to be better than what it was, if it had anything competitive to compare it to in the immediate vicinity. Like a lot of hot, higher end restaurants, especially recently, knowing what I know about food costs, among other expenses, and business plan, and running an establishment efficiently, I came away feeling that it was expensive for what it was, which is a huge pet peeve of mine. So the drive back wasn't as pleasant...however, to be fair, folks who I respect, who have been there more recently, have paid it compliments, and the current Chef, Austin Fausett, was not cooking there when I ate there, and he has a very impressive resume, and it's quite likely it's evolved since my last visit, and I should give it another shot.

Oh, crap. For the sake of it, I just took a look at the current dinner menu, and it's certainly solid, but I will say this: one of the criteria you can reliably use to evaluate the talent of a Chef is his skill at making soup. While I have plenty of room for improvement in many areas, I'd like to think I'm a pretty competent soup maker. It annoys me to see any soup, especially one without a protein component involved, being offered for over $9. Double-digits for a vegetable soup, in most cases, isn't being honest or fair to the diner. Now, if I'm eating in Manhattan at LeBernardin or Jean-Georges among others, that's one thing, but in this case, $12 for Curry Cauliflower Soup, here, in Clifton, VA, is just price gouging, which is my biggest pet peeve. Cheese is something I'm very proficient with, especially American Farmstead and Artisanal cheeses, and that's a pretty lame selection for $18. There's no excuse for 6 Rappahanock River Oysters for $17, the garnishes don't elevate that to anything more than a $13 app, max - again, based on what they cost, $2/oyster, when served raw on the half-shell, is an absolutely hard ceiling for me when writing a menu. Otherwise, you just aren't being honest and fair. Shaved Artichoke (and at this time of year, those better be sunchokes/Jerusalem Artichokes - which, although delicious, are a cheap root vegetable that's a garden/farm invasive pest that literally take no skill and little cost to grow well) and Arugula Salad oh, wait for it...with black truffles ... for $18. You'd better get a helluva lot of truffle, and I mean an almost inedible amount, to elevate a salad with no protein component, to $18...in Clifton, VA. Truffles, truffles everywhere...seemingly just to increase prices. Bone Marrow and Sweetbread apps for low-to-mid teens, smoked salmon tartare, not carpaccio, but tartare for $12...'From the Garden' : vegetable dishes in the low $20's...'Sustainable Seafoods' : you know how many littleneck clams you'd have to serve to justify selling that dish for $25, even with octopus included (as a secondary ingredient, mind you, meaning you're getting less of it than littleneck clams)...

...cripes, I'm supposed to be handicapping college basketball games, and I've gone off on a freaking tangent...but prices do that to me, just because I know what I know...all I'm going to say is that if you are willing and able to afford what they're apparently charging at Trummer's, if you shop around, you can find at least a dozen restaurants in the greater DC area where the value alone is better than what's presented here. You're going to spend as much at Patowmack Farm, and at least a known and tremendously respected, commodity, Tarver King, is cooking your dinner...I gotta get to basketball...

...congrats on the impending delivery! T&P for a safe and healthy wife and child, Dad!
Thanks nittany.  I was just looking up Patowmack.  That place looks great, but they are filled up on reservations the next couple of Saturdays, so I probably should have not waited until the last minute.  I mentioned the Ashburn one that Swing posted to my wife, but she thought that was too far of a drive given her current state, so I may have gotten the same response from her anyway.  Tough to find the "outside the Beltway, but not too far outside the Beltway" balance.

I ended up reserving at Trummer's.  Figure it's at least a new place to try, and others indicated that Clifton was at least a nice place to explore.  Prices were my biggest concern.  $40+ for a filet mignon seems a bit steep to me, since I could probably get something comparable for about $15 less at Ray's.

 
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Tuskies is actually in Leesburg so a bit further from Ashburn but not too far. I was at Ray's mid February and the prices have gone up significantly, as expected with the cost of protein currently. I need to get out to Trummer's - anyone know if you can post up at the bar and still order from the main menu (single guy/diner here)?

 
Hi Don Q, if you want to give this idea a try, I'd suggest that before you rule out Patowmack Farm because of the apparent lack of reservations, you make a call and speak to someone personally about your unique situation. In my experience with establishments of that quality, when someone approaches them personally about a unique and special circumstance, they magically find a way for it to work...places of that echelon genuinely understand that no matter how spectacular they are, that the humble core of their purpose is being in the service industry, and I wouldn't be surprised, if you were so inclined to personally make your case, they'd at least make an effort to accomodate you and your soon to be growing family...and I guarantee you that they will be using more thoughtfully sourced and higher quality ingredients in the food, for mom and impending papoose!

Just for the sake of discussion, I understand you live in Alexandria...you don't even have to leave your own backyard to visit Restaurant Eve, I've waxed poetic here and elsewhere about Cathal Armstrong's virtues as a Chef. He's certainly one of the most, if not the most talented Chef in your neck of the woods, and Todd Thrasher, his partner, is the pre-eminient mixologist in the greater DC area (with a nod to Derek and Tom Brown)...have you been here?

http://restauranteve.com/restaurant/

Also, I'm telling anyone who will listen to go to Clarity Bistro in Vienna. If Cathal isn't the most talented Chef in Northern Va., then Jonathan Krinn is...

http://www.clarityvienna.com/

...that's a bistro, though, and as such is active and noisy, and maybe not the serene more formal atmosphere you're looking for...but the cuisine just flat out rocks.

Price is a HUGE deal for me. Not because of affordability, but because of value. I'm always searching for value, and being a Chef myself, who takes ethics very seriously, and who writes menus based off industry standard margins and a business plan rather than 'whatever the market will bear'  and who values fairness to my guests over artificially high margins, I have a very low threshold of tolerance for any restaurant that engages in price-gouging.

I have some other thoughts in mind for you, but I'm pressed for time now.

 
Hey nittany, thoughts on Bazin's on Church in Vienna?
I've been, and other folks I respect have also. I'm going to say, average, mediocre, especially with the advent of Maple Avenue Restaurant and Clarity Bistro.

It's funny, because I'm a Champion of Chef-owned ingredient driven restaurants, but some places are just more into the things I'm into, and that I feel are important, than others. I'm sure Patrick Bazin and his wife are fine people, and I've never heard they aren't, but Jonathan Krinn and Tim Ma just take things to another level, and at comparative price points, you're getting a more sophisticated approach and a greater appreciation for sourcing and integrity of ingredients, hence, better value.

Again, for me, when I have the time to eat out, (and I try to make time, because in my opinion as a Chef, if I'm not immersing myself in what my local peers and mentors are doing, I'm doing myself a dis-service), the first thing I decide is how much I'm looking to spend on a given meal. Under $50/couple (I'm always either with my fiancee or another chef/cook), under $100, under $150 or $150+ seem to be reasonable benchmarks for the greater DC area. Then, within that range, I look primarily for chef-owned/ingredient (or authentic cuisine) driven kitchens, and try to find the best value within that price range.

Here's the Bazin's website: http://www.bazinsonchurch.com/

Tim Ma is another amazing Chef. He's the Maple Ave. guy, also owns Water & Wall, and just opened an amazing sandwich/butcher shop in Vienna called Chase the Submarine, some of the best sandwiches I've had in a looong time.

http://mapleaverestaurant.com/menus/

http://www.chasethesubmarine.com/

Revisit the Clarity website and compare Clarity and Maple Ave. to Bazin's...can you see where I'm going?

Also, Plaka Grill in Vienna and now Falls Church offers up some seriously good Greek sandwiches (souvlaki and gyros), and that's by far the best 'cheap eats' place in that general area. Family-owned, and they care about what they're doing. The value factor is pretty off the charts there.

http://www.plakagrill.com/

I'm pretty sure that's most of what I have to say about Vienna...I'll have to think about it when not distracted by college hoops.

PS: you are dead on about Ray's. Michael Landrum is offering tremendous value there. Although I'm primarily concerned about how my meats are raised, fed, sourced and slaughtered, every now and then I just want a good, solid meal at a fair price, without having to exercise any energy thinking about it. Rays is a definite go-to when those moods strike and I find myself in Northern Va.

 
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Agreed on Chase the Sub; good stuff. I need to try something other than the steak and cheese and the pastrami - but those were both damn good.

I have a company dinner at Bazin's next week so I'll let you know my thoughts (tho I don't consider myself a foodie).

 
Hi Don Q, if you want to give this idea a try, I'd suggest that before you rule out Patowmack Farm because of the apparent lack of reservations, you make a call and speak to someone personally about your unique situation. In my experience with establishments of that quality, when someone approaches them personally about a unique and special circumstance, they magically find a way for it to work...places of that echelon genuinely understand that no matter how spectacular they are, that the humble core of their purpose is being in the service industry, and I wouldn't be surprised, if you were so inclined to personally make your case, they'd at least make an effort to accomodate you and your soon to be growing family...and I guarantee you that they will be using more thoughtfully sourced and higher quality ingredients in the food, for mom and impending papoose!

Just for the sake of discussion, I understand you live in Alexandria...you don't even have to leave your own backyard to visit Restaurant Eve, I've waxed poetic here and elsewhere about Cathal Armstrong's virtues as a Chef. He's certainly one of the most, if not the most talented Chef in your neck of the woods, and Todd Thrasher, his partner, is the pre-eminient mixologist in the greater DC area (with a nod to Derek and Tom Brown)...have you been here?

http://restauranteve.com/restaurant/

Also, I'm telling anyone who will listen to go to Clarity Bistro in Vienna. If Cathal isn't the most talented Chef in Northern Va., then Jonathan Krinn is...

http://www.clarityvienna.com/

...that's a bistro, though, and as such is active and noisy, and maybe not the serene more formal atmosphere you're looking for...but the cuisine just flat out rocks.

Price is a HUGE deal for me. Not because of affordability, but because of value. I'm always searching for value, and being a Chef myself, who takes ethics very seriously, and who writes menus based off industry standard margins and a business plan rather than 'whatever the market will bear'  and who values fairness to my guests over artificially high margins, I have a very low threshold of tolerance for any restaurant that engages in price-gouging.

I have some other thoughts in mind for you, but I'm pressed for time now.
Yes, I've been to Restaurant Eve.  Agreed on it being a great meal and experience.

I'm not familiar with Clarity.  I'll check that out, but, yeah, might be looking for something more formal for this occasion.

 
While we're talking about restaurants/food, here's something everyone should know about, while there is still time to go:

In the Petworth, DC area (Upshur St.), there's an special restaurant called Crane and Turtle, Chef Makoto Hamamura, very talented dude. He and the Pastry Chef developed a relationship, got married, and are headed to NYC to open a restaurant there. The Owner, Paul Ruppert, is a very well known and respected restaurant guy in DC (Room 11, The Passenger/Columbia Room, Petworth Citizen among other projects). He and the majority of regular guests of the restaurant decided that the it was so unique of a place due to the culinary talent involved, that rather than hire a new culinary team, they will close the restaurant and open something new in the space after the Chef departs ,which is a very cool thing.

Closing at the end of April, go while you still can...

http://www.craneandturtledc.com/

 
While we're talking about restaurants/food, here's something everyone should know about, while there is still time to go:

In the Petworth, DC area (Upshur St.), there's an special restaurant called Crane and Turtle, Chef Makoto Hamamura, very talented dude. He and the Pastry Chef developed a relationship, got married, and are headed to NYC to open a restaurant there. The Owner, Paul Ruppert, is a very well known and respected restaurant guy in DC (Room 11, The Passenger/Columbia Room, Petworth Citizen among other projects). He and the majority of regular guests of the restaurant decided that the it was so unique of a place due to the culinary talent involved, that rather than hire a new culinary team, they will close the restaurant and open something new in the space after the Chef departs ,which is a very cool thing.

Closing at the end of April, go while you still can...

http://www.craneandturtledc.com/
I second nittanylion's recommendation, not that it needs confirmation. This place is literally just around the corner from Chez Funke, and it will be sorely missed. Stop by for a beer while you're in the neighborhood.

 
For all you guys who know about these outside the beltway upscale places like the Goodstone, and the Ashby and Patowmack Farm and Trummer's, and Inn at Little Washington, here's another one no one has mentioned as of yet, out in Staunton, that absolutely rocks.

Ian Boden's The Shack. Amazing.

http://theshackva.com/

 
Nothing to add here right now (or pretty much ever, hah!) but wife and kid are coming with me for a week in April.  Arriving on 4/22.  Staying at the Renaissance near Dupont Circle.  I'm familiar with the area and got a corporate discount.  

I'm excited, because I feel like I know the city pretty well now and still haven't been up in the Washington Monument, seen the Archives, and a few other touristy things.  Plus if the weather in April is anything like October, then it will be great weather for walking around the mall all #######g day and being a :nerd:  tourist.  

 
PS: you are dead on about Ray's. Michael Landrum is offering tremendous value there. Although I'm primarily concerned about how my meats are raised, fed, sourced and slaughtered, every now and then I just want a good, solid meal at a fair price, without having to exercise any energy thinking about it. Rays is a definite go-to when those moods strike and I find myself in Northern Va.
Is that for meat quality, or humanitarian reasons? 

 
Im waiting to hear back from 2 people but I ikely have 3 tickets available to tonight's wizards game.  4 if I don't go. 

Anybody interested? Game starts an hour later, 8pm for a change.

 
Is that for meat quality, or humanitarian reasons? 
Both. From my research and experience, you can't have one without the other. Animals that live a (relatively) happier (?) (maybe is 'less stressed' is a better term) life, and eat not only what they are supposed to eat, (in the case of cows, grass), but that food that they consume is of high quality, and are slaughtered humanely produce a better quality of meat. It's a biological fact that stress causes chemical reactions to occur in living organisms that have physiological effects, and in the case of the animals we most commonly consume (cows, pigs, sheep, chicken, etc.), improper care, handling and nutrition yields an inferior product. I'm not just a cook. I take my craft very seriously, and unlike a lot of Chefs, culinary school was graduate school for me, and I have an educational background that emphasized nutrition and exercise science, so I'd like to think my knowledge base is both wide and deep. I've been to meetings, conferences and seminars that bring farmers, biologists and chefs under one roof, and directly compared and contrasted factory farmed, raised and fed animals to their humanely raised counterparts and the difference in quality, from an appearance, texture, flavor, etc. standpoint is overtly apparent. If an animal is in a significant state of stress when it's killed, those chemical reactions have a further negative effects on texture and flavor. After slaughter, the butchering is every bit as important. A technically skilled butcher, who considers himself a craftsman, can produce cuts that are far more workable for a chef to turn into deliciousness than your average joe meat cutter. Lots less scrap and waste, as well. Put both together (quality meat and quality butchering), and it's a wet dream for someone like me. To the best of my knowledge, there have been no definitive studies done on things like how the human body absorbs nutrients based on their quality (for example, absorbtion rate of protein from a pastured raised, humanely slaughtered cow vs a factory farmed, feedlot fed cow), but it certainly stands to reason that a healthy organism would more readily and effectively absorb nutrients of a higher quality than lesser quality.

For folks who live in our area who might want to learn more about this sort of stuff, and buy and eat some damn good meat, there's a farm out in Virginia owned by a pretty well-known farmer who's a luminary in the field of pasture raised animals. He considers himself a 'grass farmer'.

Joel Saladin/Polyface Farm: http://www.polyfacefarms.com/

another one is Bev Eggleston: http://ecofriendly.com/

I buy a lot of products from Ayershire Farm in Virginia: http://www.ayrshirefarm.com/AyrshireFarm/AFHome.html

These guys in Maryland are pretty amazing, too: http://www.wagonwheelranch.org/

both can be purchased more locally at My Organic Market/Mom's http://www.momsorganicmarket.com/

That's about as short an answer as I can give you, which, via the links, ties into this being the ***Official DC Thread*** . I think there are other threads here in the FFA where we could talk about the substance of my post more, but as far as how it ties in to metro-DC area, I'm happy to go on, and on, and on, if it's helpful.

 
That's about as short an answer as I can give you, which, via the links, ties into this being the ***Official DC Thread*** . I think there are other threads here in the FFA where we could talk about the substance of my post more, but as far as how it ties in to metro-DC area, I'm happy to go on, and on, and on, if it's helpful.
My wife has mentioned several times about wanting to go in with other families splitting a cow. Suggestions of how to go about that in the DC area? Best places to go? What are typical prices ranges for a full cow? How much freezer space would someone need for, say, 1/2 a cow?

 
My wife has mentioned several times about wanting to go in with other families splitting a cow. Suggestions of how to go about that in the DC area? Best places to go? What are typical prices ranges for a full cow? How much freezer space would someone need for, say, 1/2 a cow?
Are you in VA or MD?

 
I'd probably go to a farmer's market and form a relationship with a provider before seeing if they did a cow share.  I know Eco Friendly supplies a lot of restaurants.  When I lived in Georgetown, I bought from Midtree's at the Glover Park market.  I don't think they have any big ties to restaurants, and I'm not even sure they do a cow share (I think they're middle men, frankly).  But they sold my Platonic ideal of a grass-fed ribeye. 

 
There's also a Wiz game tomorrow, that will be interesting.

And one release I saw said "at least 29 hours ..." as in it could go longer, like into morning rush hour on Thursday.

 
There's also a Wiz game tomorrow, that will be interesting.

And one release I saw said "at least 29 hours ..." as in it could go longer, like into morning rush hour on Thursday.
Sounds like it's supposed start at midnight tonight, so 29 hours just takes it to opening time on Thursday. Going from 24 hours to 29 hours doesn't really change anything because it would have been closed those extra 5 hours anyways.

 
Sounds like it's supposed start at midnight tonight, so 29 hours just takes it to opening time on Thursday. Going from 24 hours to 29 hours doesn't really change anything because it would have been closed those extra 5 hours anyways.
This is gonna be super fun, assuming they don't close the fed and DC governments and DC schools :popcorn:

 
This is gonna be super fun, assuming they don't close the fed and DC governments and DC schools :popcorn:
I'll say it's a lock (99.9%) OPM gives unscheduled leave and unscheduled telework. I'll put it at a 75% chance that OPM closes.

I think WMATA really wants this fixed before the weekend, assuming peak bloom is still expected to start this weekend.

 
If the WMATA was smart and nice, wouldn't they be doing the shutdown on Thursday or Friday? That way people could be 'working' during the basketball!

I suppose they want to get it done before the games, so people have a safe ride home!

 
I'm in construction and am extremely sensitive to safety issues, OSHA, job site injuries, etc.... This takes balls, but they have to do it. The glass-half-full part of me wants to believe they are doing this solely for safety reasons. The cynic in me leans towards they are doing it for finacnial, liability, and PR reasons. A combo of both works for me. WMATA's infrastructure safety is woefully inadequate and inefficient. They talk a good game but are overwhelmed by too much bureaucracy to stay on top of it.

I hope they use this stand-down for real, practical results. 

 
Gotcha. Down in here St. Mary's County, there's all kinds of place to get a cow. Last fall, we split a quarter cow with friends. We each ended up with like 22lbs of ground beef, a couple fliets, a brisket, all kinds of other random steaks, etc. We paid about $7/lb. All grass fed and they even vacuum seal everything so it'll last for awhile.

 
In an especially unnerving revelation, Wiedefeld confirmed that the cable that caught fire Monday had been inspected as part of a systemwide cable inspection after the Yellow Line fire — and passed. He said he had concerns about the results of that inspection.

Wiedefeld said 125 cables were replaced after the inspections.

A Metro official who spoke on the condition that he not be identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly said the earlier cable inspections were not conducted properly or missed the problem that caused the fires.
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Gotcha. Down in here St. Mary's County, there's all kinds of place to get a cow. Last fall, we split a quarter cow with friends. We each ended up with like 22lbs of ground beef, a couple fliets, a brisket, all kinds of other random steaks, etc. We paid about $7/lb. All grass fed and they even vacuum seal everything so it'll last for awhile.
Big fan of St. Mary's County. My cousin owns a farm in SMC, and I have very strong relationships with several farmers down there.

Brett Grohsgal is brilliant: http://www.localharvest.org/even-star-organic-farm-M9994

,,,so is Sally Fallon: http://pabowenfarmstead.com/

...my cousin's Scarborough Farm: http://www.scarboroughfarmflowers.com/gallery

There's a damn fine French restaurant down there called Cafe des Artistes. Chef Owner-Operator Loic and Karleen Jaffres. They've just retired, and an outstanding DC-area talent is moving down there and taking over, Brian Wilson, opening a new place in the same space probably late spring/early summer. Brian last worked at Montmartre, an outstanding, but off the radar traditional French restaurant in DC, but has done time at 2941, Oval Room, Palena, Tallula and others. Pretty exciting development for Southern Md.

More here, and within, a link that talks about what's coming next: http://www.cafedesartistes.ws/index.html

 
Big fan of St. Mary's County. My cousin owns a farm in SMC, and I have very strong relationships with several farmers down there.

Brett Grohsgal is brilliant: http://www.localharvest.org/even-star-organic-farm-M9994

,,,so is Sally Fallon: http://pabowenfarmstead.com/

...my cousin's Scarborough Farm: http://www.scarboroughfarmflowers.com/gallery

There's a damn fine French restaurant down there called Cafe des Artistes. Chef Owner-Operator Loic and Karleen Jaffres. They've just retired, and an outstanding DC-area talent is moving down there and taking over, Brian Wilson, opening a new place in the same space probably late spring/early summer. Brian last worked at Montmartre, an outstanding, but off the radar traditional French restaurant in DC, but has done time at 2941, Oval Room, Palena, Tallula and others. Pretty exciting development for Southern Md.

More here, and within, a link that talks about what's coming next: http://www.cafedesartistes.ws/index.html
Lots of good farms down here. Big bonus as well are the Amish, who have really good fresh fruits/veggies for sale all over the place down here over the Summer. Also, plenty of farmers markets to get all kinds of good stuff from. This place is really nice during the Spring/Summer months because of all the local produce you can buy just about anywhere.

I was sad to see Cafe des Artises close. I live maybe 10 minutes from there, just East of Leonardtown. Living in Baltimore for 7 years, I really miss all the good places to eat. There's a few down here, mostly over in Solomon's in Calvert County. St. Mary's has more of the chain restaurants, unless you're looking for seafood. Tons of little seafood places around here that for the most part get their own local seafood.

Why am I not surprised you know all about food down here haha. 

 
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