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Without spoiling, can I ask if you are a QT fan - or maybe I should phrase it - where do you stand on him?
As a person I can’t stand him. As a movie maker, he’s very talented and his movies are usually fun. However, his movies won’t ever make any list of my favorite or best. The Kill Bill films were probably my favorites.
Well crap. I read the earlier discussion and literally thought, "Hey, here's something I know more about than wikkid! I can add value!" My college focus was in particular on 20th century American history and politics.* And like wikkid, Malcolm X is a hero of mine and someone I've studied a lot. But once again wikkid summed it up better and more succinctly than I could, so again...I agree with wikkid.
Awesome, K.
I was at Wellesley, so I'm not sure it's representative. He was revered.
Good idea; I'll fire up a ranking thread.
You may like this, then. I ran away from home a month into my jr year in HS and didn't return to school til February of my class's senior year. My favorite teacher, a man who played jazz piano & hustled pool til he was 40, then went to school to become a teacher, knew from my first academic go-round that school was always going to be useless to me but didn't want my long absence to hurt my future (i dont even know if there were GEDs then, but Mr Rabin wanted me to graduate w my class). He negotiated an independent study for me that he would proctor which, along with completing my senior classes in 3 months, would allow me enough credits to graduate.
Understood. Thnx.
When I do my thread ranking all of your stories, this one is going to be near the top.
Overall, I think he is overrated by the masses. I get the pull - he writes great dialogue, the movies are fun for the most part, and he has a way to incorporate a kickass soundtrack to his most of his movies. I do think a few of his movies are great (RD, Jackie, most of Inglorious Basterds, Pulp Fiction). Like I said in my other post, to me he is just not able to take his movie geekdom to the next level and produce movies that have a feel that are exclusive to him. As much as I don't love him as much as others, Scorsese is in the similar vein with better execution. Both he and QT are movie nerds to the utmost, but while Scorsese was able to harness that into movies that have distinct look and feel, QT's movie still just feel like splatter painting of him trying to cram in as many styles as he can - Kill Bill is the worst example of this. He had a stellar run with his first 3 movies, but then seemed to get in his own way as he tried to prove to the world that he was the biggest movie geek of all and he has watched way cooler b-movies than anybody. I had hopes from the 2-3 amazing scenes in Inglorious Basterds (opening scene and bar scene notably) that he had one epic movie left in the tank, but Hateful Eight destroyed that for me as he regressed back to the more schlocky stuff that doesn't resonate as much with me.
Yes. This is what really eventually swayed me towards RD for this poll.
Oh ####! I forgot about this one. I like it too.
Is this about Bay or QT?
I'm more than willing to turn QT-bashing duties over to 80s - we had multi-page threads about it on FFA earlier in the decade and i was pretty much the only against. My take was that he was the ultimate fanboy - saw all the babysitter movies of the 80s and learned how to become someone others might think was cool from honking snippets from blaxploitation, kung fu & british gangster flix.
Yeah. I like what you are saying.
i see someone has humped one of the old QT threads because the prevue for Once Upon A Time in Hollywood is out, so you can read all everybody thinks of him in that. Very talented, heartless hack positioned so perfectly in the fanboy zeitgeist that his movies will outlast most of his generation's, no matter how more-deserving. Read the thread fo mo.
Both. The movies are always cool. They have the right look and the right sound for what they are supposed to be but they always seem a bit soulless and done just for the spectacle of it all.
Thnx.
Sure it can be changed. Obviously you can't revote in the poll but one vote wouldn't sway anything at this point anyway.Thnx.
I won't comment on it, so as not to spoil.
Wikkid has directed me to a great thread. I'll read up and report back on my education. It may be a while, so I won't reup the discussion, I'll just say whether I have been swayed on my vote.
Can they be changed, or does it even matter for your goal?
Thanks again.
I agree with others here that it can be hit and miss.
I know I said I had made my final comment for this round ...I apparently lied.
A few of the years were tough choice for me, but the FBG spoke enough that I wasn't convinced to sway from my original pick. I strongly considered Malcolm X for 92 though.
Ah thnx dude.
This is good - tight.
Thanks, just throwing together some thoughts. One of my many New Years Resolutions was just to write about movies or books I read or music I hear. It is a good way to process art and information. It's kind of what I do when I post here on any topic or if I teach something new- work it out as I read, write and repeat. Learning works best if one puts in effort and interacts with it so I am just trying to grow.This is good - tight.
Not that the rest ain't, but that quote is nice to look at.
Really nice summation.
I never connected Scorsese (I have the hardest time spelling his name) with Tarantino before but you are right. It just hit me hard now as TCM is playing Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore right now. I forgot how the opening scene is in some of crazy color that looks like an old movie.
80's, I'm the guy with the absolute least experience, knowledge and wisdom on matters like that, here.
A lot of the realization came from listening to the two do interviews. Both have an encyclopedic knowledge of film, a seeming photographic memory of stuff, and that rapid fire film geek excitement about movies. But like I said, Scorsese and other directors that I would consider better that QT are able to harvest that and morph it into their own voice and themes. QT never seemed to get much past the phase of just regurgitating styles and genres he loved on film. We know my love for PTA, and I am not about to deny his aping of the opening to Goodfellas at the start of Boogie Nights, and that's cool, but he also is able to have his own vision and themes that run through his movies on top of that.
