the over/under for Dallas at Chicago is 42 (1 Viewer)

[Workhorse]

Totals are almost invariably shaded a point or two too high because the public likes to bet overs except in the case of inclement weather where they get shaded too low because the public hammers bad weather unders (to disastrous results).

The bad weather under is often one of the dumbest bets in pro football.

 

[yesitsme]

Totals are almost invariably shaded a point or two too high because the public likes to bet overs except in the case of inclement weather where they get shaded too low because the public hammers bad weather unders (to disastrous results).

The bad weather under is often one of the dumbest bets in pro football.

Depends on the weather........the only weather that really effects the score is wind. You can't pass in the wind and when there's a lot of running, it keeps the clock moving.

 

[culdeus]

Totals are almost invariably shaded a point or two too high because the public likes to bet overs except in the case of inclement weather where they get shaded too low because the public hammers bad weather unders (to disastrous results).

The bad weather under is often one of the dumbest bets in pro football.

Depends on the weather........the only weather that really effects the score is wind. You can't pass in the wind and when there's a lot of running, it keeps the clock moving.

Public can't see wind on TV.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I'll take the over. Dallas D will make the Bears look like the Colts.

Bears have some athletes on their offense, so they'll be able to get some big plays out of them I think.

 

[simmonjm]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

I agree with LHucks. Newman is nothing great....an average CB....but that just shows how poor the Dallas depth is. For a team supposed to contend for a SB, they surely have no depth.

I love the double standard here. Chicago's defense fell apart last year after Tommie Harris got hurt but they have superbowl quality depth and supposedly Dallas does not and is not ready to compete for the superbowl. Dallas is without 3 defensive starters and still managed 5 turnovers against the Dolphins who in all reality are probably as good as the Bears offense. So please explain to me again how the Bears are going to move the ball because I can easily see Cedric struggling to find running lanes and Rex having to carry this team which as a Cowboys fan I like these matchups. This game could get ugly quick if Dallas builds a lead early.

the bolded part suggesting Miami and Chicago offenses are equal in quality . . .comical . . .

Yards GainedMiami 24th

Chicago 30th

Scoring

Miami 21st

Chicago 28th

QB rating

Green 70.8

Grossman 55.1 (only starting QB with a worse rating is Tavaris Jackson)

The only comedy i see is Rex Grossman at QB.

 

[PatsFan72]

How quickly people forget that the Bears were tied for second most points in the league last year, with the Colts. Sure they lost Thomas Jones, but is he that much better then Benson? He has the same career YPC average as him (4.0). Grossman has looked bad lately, and I don't think he has the head for an NFL QB, but he has had good games against bad secondaries before.

 

[NoCheese]

This O/U is critical in determing whether or not Barber will score this week. Don't want to have to start Cadillac in his place, but it's the Bears....at home....and they pretty much shut down LT and LJ already.

 

[nflguru]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

Grossman to Berrian.Dallas secondary = :XI like the over as well.

Grossman to ANYONE doesn't happen.....and certainly not 3 times in one game

Grossman has more 3-TD games in the past 18 games than Romo does.

Most morons who bash Grossman without any facts just do not get it.

Please tell me you dont think Grossman is a good QB? If i were a Bears fan, i would HATE the guy, he is costing your team Superbowls.

I prefer giving a starting QB at least 32 games of starting before making any judgments. Very few QBs (outside of Big Ben & Marino I cannot think of any other right now) take a team to a SB in their 1st game 32 games, so no, I do not hate the guy. Because the society is full of morons who cannot be patient these days, you find a lot of Qbs doing well after going somewhere else (See Rich Gannon or Trent Green for eg). You cannot have a probowler at every position in this league. This league is not meant to be that way. Grossman has won games as a QB. You can argue he is not solely resposible for that, and I accept that, but he must be doing something right to lead a team to the 15th ranked O and a SB. It is not like the Bears O was 32nd last year that some might want people to think. And we have seen Griese play in this league.....he is not Peyton Manning. Last year, most of you guys said Grossman would never win a playoff game and the Bears would be one and done....what happened? How many points did the Bears O score against the Saints and Seahawks in the playoffs? If you had watched (I have put Win-Loss records in brackets): Steve Stenstrom (1-6), Henry Burris (0-1), Kyle Orton (10-5), Cade Mcnown (3-12), Jim Miller (15-11), Shane Matthews (8-7), Kordell Stewart (2-5), Rick Mirer (0-3), Craig Krenzel (3-2), Jonathan Quinn (0-3), Chad Hutchinson (1-4), Moses Moreno (0-1), Chris Chandler (5-8), Jeff Blake (0-0) start as Bears Qb, you might know what I am talking about here. Trust me, unless you are a Bears fan, you have no idea that Grossman actually has skills we have not seen forever. Does he need to improve/develop? Absolutely. I am hoping by the time this year is over, he will. Throwing away Qbs without giving them a real chance is just stupid, especially when you do not really have any great alternative. The league is full of teams that do not have a great or proven or even good starting QB - do you want me to run through teams? Falcons, Jags, Vikings, Chiefs, Redskins, Dolphins, Bucs, Broncos, Raiders, Cardinals, 49ers, Titans, Texans, Browns etc etc. And I have not even mentioned the Qbs sucking this year (see Eagles or Saints) or the ones that sucked last year and people were ready to tar and feather them in their towns (Big Ben and Eli Manning). Only 3 teams - Colts, Pats and Bengals seem to have a top tier QB. Maybe Rams.....though you can argue he has sucked this year too.

This is really a great post (bear homer).. Grossman has the skills the questions I have (especially after last weeks game) are this:1. Why in the hell doesn't he run for a first down (EVER!?!)2. Is he having trouble seeing over the O-Line?3. Please teach the man how to sell a screen pass, that was downright high school level last week4. Is he ever going to be consistent? Flashes of greatness in my opinion need to turn into consistency or we won't win5. After last week, I might like to see a QB that doesnt turn it over shooting ourselves in the foot than to see a loss due to turn overs at that position. The D is on the field a great deal of the time during these games and your special teams is not going to score every week - When can we count on an offense that you know will put points on the board?Lastly - Do you think leftwich is a better option for the bears right now

 

[PantherPower]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

Newman is just solid?

correct

 

[Lash]

21-20, 24-17, 27-14

all very reasonable scores for this game

this is a "trap" game as people will look at Dallas scoring the past two weeks and automatically picking the over

 

[swidman]

Lastly - Do you think leftwich is a better option for the bears right now

Nope. Lefty is a Falcon now.

 

[nflguru]

Lastly - Do you think leftwich is a better option for the bears right now

Nope. Lefty is a Falcon now.

I know (meant they should have made a move before Atlanta grabbed him up).. Orton is not going to do anything (probably ever) and Griese is < Grossman

 

[Tyrion]

This game is going to be a rude awakening to alot of Bears fans. Grossman really is that bad and Romo really is that good.

 

[simmonjm]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

Newman is just solid?

correct

Panther power you should know better the last time the Cowboys played the Panthers Newman matched up 1 on 1 vs Steve Smith all game and limited him to 6 catches for 55 yards no TD's I would consider that a little better then solid.

 

[jesseasi]

The Bears special teams is good to setup 10-14 points.

Cowboys Terence Newman is still out. This will open the door for Berrian and Grossman to connect on some long balls. Look at what Eli did in week 1.

Bears should be good for 17-24 points.

Cowboys come in with the one of the hottest offenses in the NFL. Barber is running hard and Romo looks like the next of the elite QB's. Owens will be good for a score, Barber another, add in a few field goals from drives that sputter in the red zone. Also add in the one or two stupid plays that Grossman will have setting the Cowboys up on a short field - I think the cowboys are good for 21-28 points.

42 Looks right on to me - I bet the under in week 1 in the Giants/Cowboys game - I won't make that mistake again. Over Baby!

 

[Stingdiddy]

If Newman plays the game stays under.

If Newman does not play, the game goes over.

It's as simple as that.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I'd go with the over.

 

[BRONG]

You guys should be betting each other. At least a few of you should sack up anyway. Thread'll get even better. And wait 'til Monday...

 

[Steeler07]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

You act like the Cowboys' D is the second coming of the 85 Bears.

 

[Steeler07]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

Newman is just solid? OK....whatever.

Newman is overrated.

 

[Steeler07]

Vegas wasn't build by being wrong. If the under looks too good to be true, bet the over.

the odds are based on the gamblersvegas takes 4% to 5% of the winner's money.....they win no matter what and just adust the line to try and get a 50/50 for each side....

vegas was built by us

A lot of people think this but it really isn't true. The sportsbook handicapers put a lot of time and effort into getting more of the money on the wrong side. Every time I hear about how Vegas books have 60% - 70% of the money going one way, the other way seems to find a way to win. See Florida v. Ohio St.

if 60% to 70% of the money is on one side then they all (casinos) adjust the line so that it evens itself out at 50/50...they take a small chunk out of the winning sides money and they win no matter what ever year....they don't try and fool the public into betting a certain way you fool...it is regular business, the line is set to be 50/50 so that they CAN'T LOSE....and the line is adjusted by US...not THEM.

Completely false.Vegas adjusts the line in probably half the games. In the rest they're comfortable having 70% of the public in one side.

Vegas makes its money because of a very simple fact, they will never run out of cash, and you will. The fact that they obviously know more than the average joe is just a plus.

The juice is there so people like you actually believe it's a fair chance to make easy money, when it's not.

 

[Raider Nation]

 

[Burning Sensation]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

Grossman to Berrian.Dallas secondary = I like the over as well.

Grossman to ANYONE doesn't happen.....and certainly not 3 times in one game

Grossman has more 3-TD games in the past 18 games than Romo does.

Most morons who bash Grossman without any facts just do not get it.

Hmmm......

 

[simmonjm]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

I agree with LHucks. Newman is nothing great....an average CB....but that just shows how poor the Dallas depth is. For a team supposed to contend for a SB, they surely have no depth.

I love the double standard here. Chicago's defense fell apart last year after Tommie Harris got hurt but they have superbowl quality depth and supposedly Dallas does not and is not ready to compete for the superbowl. Dallas is without 3 defensive starters and still managed 5 turnovers against the Dolphins who in all reality are probably as good as the Bears offense. So please explain to me again how the Bears are going to move the ball because I can easily see Cedric struggling to find running lanes and Rex having to carry this team which as a Cowboys fan I like these matchups. This game could get ugly quick if Dallas builds a lead early.

the bolded part suggesting Miami and Chicago offenses are equal in quality . . .comical . . .

Yards GainedMiami 24th

Chicago 30th

Scoring

Miami 21st

Chicago 28th

QB rating

Green 70.8

Grossman 55.1 (only starting QB with a worse rating is Tavaris Jackson)

The only comedy i see is Rex Grossman at QB.

As a Cowboys fan Grossman was hilarious tonight.

 

[duaneok66]

Cowboys cut Nate Jones, which could indicate Newman is ready to return. This very well could make a huge difference...imo.

He's solid, but he's not a shutdown guy so I'm not sure I'd say "huge difference."

I agree with LHucks. Newman is nothing great....an average CB....but that just shows how poor the Dallas depth is. For a team supposed to contend for a SB, they surely have no depth.

I love the double standard here. Chicago's defense fell apart last year after Tommie Harris got hurt but they have superbowl quality depth and supposedly Dallas does not and is not ready to compete for the superbowl. Dallas is without 3 defensive starters and still managed 5 turnovers against the Dolphins who in all reality are probably as good as the Bears offense. So please explain to me again how the Bears are going to move the ball because I can easily see Cedric struggling to find running lanes and Rex having to carry this team which as a Cowboys fan I like these matchups. This game could get ugly quick if Dallas builds a lead early.

the bolded part suggesting Miami and Chicago offenses are equal in quality . . .comical . . .

Yards GainedMiami 24th

Chicago 30th

Scoring

Miami 21st

Chicago 28th

QB rating

Green 70.8

Grossman 55.1 (only starting QB with a worse rating is Tavaris Jackson)

The only comedy i see is Rex Grossman at QB.

As a Cowboys fan Grossman was hilarious tonight.

I stand corrected . . .

 

[Tyrion]

This game is going to be a rude awakening to alot of Bears fans. Grossman really is that bad and Romo really is that good.

Hate to kick a dead horse... nah no I don't .

 

[culdeus]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

Grossman to Berrian.Dallas secondary = :XI like the over as well.

Grossman to ANYONE doesn't happen.....and certainly not 3 times in one game

Grossman has more 3-TD games in the past 18 games than Romo does.

Most morons who bash Grossman without any facts just do not get it.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I liked the over as well, but for other reasons...

 

[atcdav]

Not so nuts.

Grossman's secret is out. He cant play

 

[RedRaiders]

Vegas wasn't build by being wrong. If the under looks too good to be true, bet the over.

the odds are based on the gamblersvegas takes 4% to 5% of the winner's money.....they win no matter what and just adust the line to try and get a 50/50 for each side....

vegas was built by us

A lot of people think this but it really isn't true. The sportsbook handicapers put a lot of time and effort into getting more of the money on the wrong side. Every time I hear about how Vegas books have 60% - 70% of the money going one way, the other way seems to find a way to win. See Florida v. Ohio St.

if 60% to 70% of the money is on one side then they all (casinos) adjust the line so that it evens itself out at 50/50...they take a small chunk out of the winning sides money and they win no matter what ever year....they don't try and fool the public into betting a certain way you fool...it is regular business, the line is set to be 50/50 so that they CAN'T LOSE....and the line is adjusted by US...not THEM.

Completely false.Vegas adjusts the line in probably half the games. In the rest they're comfortable having 70% of the public in one side.

Vegas makes its money because of a very simple fact, they will never run out of cash, and you will. The fact that they obviously know more than the average joe is just a plus.

The juice is there so people like you actually believe it's a fair chance to make easy money, when it's not.

You're full of #### if you think the higher up suits encourage their sportsbook managers to be exposed and take a stand on half the NFL sides. Maybe 10 years ago but not in the corporate climate of today.

 

[culdeus]

Vegas wasn't build by being wrong. If the under looks too good to be true, bet the over.

the odds are based on the gamblersvegas takes 4% to 5% of the winner's money.....they win no matter what and just adust the line to try and get a 50/50 for each side....

vegas was built by us

A lot of people think this but it really isn't true. The sportsbook handicapers put a lot of time and effort into getting more of the money on the wrong side. Every time I hear about how Vegas books have 60% - 70% of the money going one way, the other way seems to find a way to win. See Florida v. Ohio St.

if 60% to 70% of the money is on one side then they all (casinos) adjust the line so that it evens itself out at 50/50...they take a small chunk out of the winning sides money and they win no matter what ever year....they don't try and fool the public into betting a certain way you fool...it is regular business, the line is set to be 50/50 so that they CAN'T LOSE....and the line is adjusted by US...not THEM.

Completely false.Vegas adjusts the line in probably half the games. In the rest they're comfortable having 70% of the public in one side.

Vegas makes its money because of a very simple fact, they will never run out of cash, and you will. The fact that they obviously know more than the average joe is just a plus.

The juice is there so people like you actually believe it's a fair chance to make easy money, when it's not.

You're full of #### if you think the higher up suits encourage their sportsbook managers to be exposed and take a stand on half the NFL sides. Maybe 10 years ago but not in the corporate climate of today.

From what I remember from the time I was errr...interested in this. Whatever bankroll you have you'd be comfortable "holding off" 2.5% of one side. Once your bankroll got to 100k-200k then maybe you drop that a bit % wise. The rest you'd sell at a reduced juice. Never, ever, ever, ever would someone hold 70/30. Ever.

 

[Brides Maids]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

Grossman to Berrian.Dallas secondary = I like the over as well.

Grossman to ANYONE doesn't happen.....and certainly not 3 times in one game

Grossman has more 3-TD games in the past 18 games than Romo does.

Most morons who bash Grossman without any facts just do not get it.

Hmmm......

FIBS must be flippin' out today. Is Chicago ready for a new QB now?!?

 

[wilson2112]

CHI gave up 10 to KC and another was negated by an illegal formation. DALL is five times the offense KC is.I see no reason DAL doesn't win this game around 24-21

and how exactly are the Bears going to score 21 pts?3 returns by Hester?

Grossman to Berrian.Dallas secondary = I like the over as well.

Grossman to ANYONE doesn't happen.....and certainly not 3 times in one game

Grossman has more 3-TD games in the past 18 games than Romo does.

Most morons who bash Grossman without any facts just do not get it.

Please tell me you dont think Grossman is a good QB? If i were a Bears fan, i would HATE the guy, he is costing your team Superbowls.

1 TD with 6 INTS and a QB rating in the 50's are all the facts you need

 

[Raider Nation]

This game is going to be a rude awakening to alot of Bears fans. Grossman really is that bad and Romo really is that good.

Hate to kick a dead horse... nah no I don't .

That's actually "patting yourself on the back"... but whatever.

 

[yesitsme]

The line is was actually dead on.

Vegas lost money on that line. Not because it was over or under but because it fell with teaser range.

Anytime you can tease a game like take Dallas plus 9 and tease the total, Vegas loses on the game. You could have went over or under on the tease and hit it.