The Perfect Draft from the 5 spot (1 Viewer)

[Pura Vida]

I just read this article is the subscriber section. I enjoyed the article, but was perplexed by the final roster at the end of the article. You must start a qb, 2 rb, 3 wr and a te. Here it is for the people that didnt read it:

Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (ADP = 5)

Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (ADP = 20)

Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (ADP = 35)

Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (ADP = 47)

Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (ADP = 57)

Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (ADP = 69)

Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (ADP = 80)

Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (ADP = 99)

Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (ADP = 107)

Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (ADP = 126)

Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (ADP = 147)

Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (ADP = 149)

Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (ADP = 150)

Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (ADP = 181)

Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (ADP = 192)

Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (ADP = 200)

Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (ADP = 223)

Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (ADP = 232)

Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker available

Rd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (ADP = 257)

So the team is

ryan, Locker

charles, bradshaw, martin, donald brown, jennings, bilal powell, lamar miller

calvin, brandon lloyd, heyward bey, titus young, cobb, jerome simpson, emanual sanders

keller, celek

bills d

best kicker available

personally, I would not want this team. It is stacked at rb, but will suffer at TE and at WR. Matt ryan better put up 5k yards, or it will suffer at qb as well. Even at rb, charles is in a job share and bradshaw has a rookie that will steal touches.

I do not claim to know more than dodds or pasquiano (i dont get paid to give my opinions) but am I crazy to think this is a sub par team? Let alone the 'perfect' draft.

Is this your perfect draft?

 

[TheFootballJesus]

personally, I would not want this team. It is stacked at rb, but will suffer at TE and at WR.

Ummmmmmm what???I think either Heyward Bey, Titus Young, or Cobb could emerge as a WR3 this year. Brandon Lloyd is 2 years removed from being the #1 fantasy WR and Calvin is the best wide receiver in football.

 

[Zackattack]

What is not listed on there is you won't likely get Matt Ryan in the 6th round anymore.

 

[GMacsTiedUpInMyBasemment]

I think the team actually looks pretty good, but I think with the rising stock of Ryan, getting him in the 6th is probably not gonna happen. I am wondering if Dodds' opinion of when to draft the QB differs significantly in a 6pt per TD league. He states rather clearly that spending on an elite QB is a poor strategy, yet in tools like the draft dominator, the elite QBs' VBD are through the roof. Using the DD, the VBDs and auction prices for the three elite QBs are all in the overall top 5. This is difficult to reconcile with Dodds' thinking on when to take a QB unless his strategy changes drastically in a higher pt per thrown TD league. Thoughts?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

What is not listed on there is you won't likely get Matt Ryan in the 6th round anymore.

or Locker in the 15th

 

[VaTerp]

personally, I would not want this team. It is stacked at rb, but will suffer at TE and at WR.

Ummmmmmm what???I think either Heyward Bey, Titus Young, or Cobb could emerge as a WR3 this year. Brandon Lloyd is 2 years removed from being the #1 fantasy WR and Calvin is the best wide receiver in football.

Yup I would take this team and run with it. It's strong and deep at RB, has THE STUD of WRs, and everybody's elite QB in waiting in Ryan.IMO TE and WR3 are two of the easier spots to manage and compensate for when you are a skilled owner.Perfect NO, but in no way is this sub par as the OP states.If you tell me this is my team right now take it or leave it. I'd take it and get ready to go to work and bring home some $$$.

 

[footballnerd]

might have gone WR where Martin was taken since its a start two RB, but looks like they did pretty well.

 

[Pura Vida]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)

This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.

Team 5

QB Tony Romo

RB Matt Forte

RB Ryan Mathews

WR Brandon Marshall

WR Marques Colston

WR Reggie Wayne

TE Rob Gronkowski

PK Garrett Hartley

TD Green Bay Packers

 

[Keith1]

Matt Ryan, in the 6th round, at pick # 68, is fictitious. It lists an ADP of 69 for him, but his present ADP is probably 20 spots lower than that.

Not trying to knock the obvious work that goes into the Perfect Draft article, but it is built on a flawed premise where it centers on drafting Ryan in the 6th round.

 

[VaTerp]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

I'd take that team too.Problem is no way you get that in my leagues. Care to list it by round to make it a fair comparison.And who are the bench players at RB, WR, and QB. Nobody's really going to care who you ended up with for K and Team D.ETA- And I've heard of New York minute but that's the first I've ever heard of a NY heart beat...

 

[bucsbaby]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

 

[Pura Vida]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

I'd take that team too.Problem is no way you get that in my leagues. Care to list it by round to make it a fair comparison.And who are the bench players at RB, WR, and QB. Nobody's really going to care who you ended up with for K and Team D.

Id love to list it round by round- but the summary didnt do that for me. The mock also stopped after 9 picks- so there is no bench yet.

 

[VaTerp]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

I'd take that team too.Problem is no way you get that in my leagues. Care to list it by round to make it a fair comparison.And who are the bench players at RB, WR, and QB. Nobody's really going to care who you ended up with for K and Team D.

Id love to list it round by round- but the summary didnt do that for me. The mock also stopped after 9 picks- so there is no bench yet.

Gotcha.I assume it would go something likeForteGronkMarshallMathewsColston RomoWayneI suppose that's realistic in some leagues but the way mine go, that wouldnt happen.I agree though, I'd take that team over the perfect draft one in a second

 

[pantherclub]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

in my money 12 team league this team would be impossible to draft.

 

[We Tigers]

According to the FBG Rate My Team, it's a good draft, but not quite a perfect one. Chances of getting in the playoffs:

99/90/86

90/85/78

99/90/85

90/85/75

Then again, I have a hard time imagining that this team could even actually happen. I count 6 guys, 4 of whom are very key players--Lloyd, Ryan, Donald Brown, Titus Young, Locker, and Emmanuel Sanders--who are "picked" between 10 and 30 draft slots after their ADP currently seems to be, by most sources. I guess the article is more for the philosophy since any actual draft recommendation will be outdated a couple days after it's published.

 

[Chazzhawk]

Don't see anything near perfection in this

 

[footballnerd]

I just did a mock draft using the mock draft tool. I set the 5 pick to the middle setting ( meaning it loosely uses the FBG ratings)This was the mock drafted team by the computer. Id take this team over the perfect team in a new york heart beat.Team 5QB Tony RomoRB Matt ForteRB Ryan MathewsWR Brandon MarshallWR Marques ColstonWR Reggie WayneTE Rob GronkowskiPK Garrett HartleyTD Green Bay Packers

very nice. hope your next rb isn't a 10th rounder if mathews goes down tho.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Doug Martin hasn't dropped to 4.8 in any 12 team draft I have been in. While I agree that Bradshaw and Martin are the best RB values in round 3 and 4 respectively, it's unlikely you could get both in round 3/4 from the 5 spot.

There is also some sick WR value in rounds 3/4 and I think the perfect draft would actually be Bradshaw or Martin + best available WR. The rest of that team is completely feasible, although to be honest I don't like any of the picks after round 7.

 

[Ariakis]

I hate to criticize a strategy article as I wish there was more not less of this type of content ... but ....

I'd like to see FBG take another stab at this with "current" data which is a constant problem of publishing an article like this. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt in that I suspect this was written long enough ago that ADP is no longer current.

Beyond that a 'worst case' draft would also be interesting to build into a strategy article like this ... what would FBG do in their own scenario if their guys keep going one pick ahead?

It would also be great to see this from a few different draft slots of course.

In Round 1 not a big deal because you get a top 3 RB or ARod - unless you stick to the don't draft a QB theory then do you reach?

In Round 2 who are the fall-back choices if JC goes earlier and the wrong position based on your draft plan slide to you?

Is Bradshaw really on anyone's must draft list? Maybe with a late 4th not a mid 3rd of safer/better options.

Biggest thing here is QB which is the crux of the plan ... let's say you miss on Ryan ... do you either reach or just keep passing and stockpiling and hope you time drafting maybe QB10 later on (plus upside sleepers) before someone takes their 2nd QB?

 

[Judge Smails]

I think the team actually looks pretty good, but I think with the rising stock of Ryan, getting him in the 6th is probably not gonna happen. I am wondering if Dodds' opinion of when to draft the QB differs significantly in a 6pt per TD league. He states rather clearly that spending on an elite QB is a poor strategy, yet in tools like the draft dominator, the elite QBs' VBD are through the roof. Using the DD, the VBDs and auction prices for the three elite QBs are all in the overall top 5. This is difficult to reconcile with Dodds' thinking on when to take a QB unless his strategy changes drastically in a higher pt per thrown TD league. Thoughts?

Would love to get more thoughts on this. I'm sitting at 5 in a 6 point all TD league, 5 points for 300 yard bonuses, etc. After the top 3 RB's are gone it's down to Rodgers, Brady and Calvin. No PPR, and as much as I love Calvin I'm strongly considering taking one of the top 2 QB's on my board. But I could be talked into Calvin. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, flex league. Agree with others that Ryan will go sooner in our league. Follows the Julio hysteria.

 

[David Yudkin]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .

Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)

Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)

Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)

Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)

Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)

Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)

Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)

Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)

Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)

Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)

Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)

Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)

Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)

Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)

Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)

Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)

Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)

Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)

Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker available

Rd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

 

[KGB]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker availableRd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

link to the draft results?

 

[Mike]

MyFantasyLeague has a pretty good search function. This seems to be it:

http://football23.myfantasyleague.com/2012/options?L=49652&O=17

 

[Ariakis]

Hah so in a FBG draft there were 13 QB's taken by 6.07 including SIX in the 1st two rounds which is the exact opposite of the perfect draft post. This with TWO flex spots wow. So here's the question ... if you are the team that passed on QB to try to execute the perfect draft ... do you reach in the RB/WR sweet spot of Rounds 4-6 for QB's that SHOULD go later as some owners did ... or just wait and see who drops to Rounds 8-10 and punt QB?

Another observation is somewhere in Round 6-7 the WR's go from love to have and start to upside I'd hate to start right now. Based on latest ADP it appears you REALLY need two good WR's in the top 6 rounds but other than that take BPA. At the same time the value at QB/RB/TE seems pretty good in comparison in the 8-10 range to WR.

 

[rascal]

Nelson went before Greg jennings in that draft...interesting. ppr league

 

[Keith1]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .Rd 1 - Pick 5 WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)Rd 2 - Pick 20 RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)Rd 3 - Pick 29 RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)Rd 4 - Pick 44 RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)Rd 5 - Pick 53 WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)Rd 6 - Pick 68 QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)Rd 7 - Pick 77 RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)Rd 8 - Pick 92 WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)Rd 9 - Pick 101 WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)Rd 11 - Pick 125 WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)Rd 12 - Pick 140 RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)Rd 13 - Pick 149 TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)Rd 14 - Pick 164 Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)Rd 15 - Pick 173 QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)Rd 16 - Pick 188 WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)Rd 17 - Pick 197 RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)Rd 18 - Pick 212 WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)Rd 19 - Pick 221 Best kicker availableRd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

not to belabor the point, but if Matt Ryan goes at # 23 in an FBG staff draft, how can FBG (pretty much at the same time) post an article that pins much of its strategy upon taking Matt Ryan in the 6th round, at pick # 68 ???

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Haseley has Matt Ryan ranked #52 overall on the site and takes him #23 overall in a staff draft?

 

[Pura Vida]

Whats crazy is that this article came out yesterday. Its not like its two weeks old. Definitely some mixed messages.

 

[Captain Hook]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker availableRd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

not to belabor the point, but if Matt Ryan goes at # 23 in an FBG staff draft, how can FBG (pretty much at the same time) post an article that pins much of its strategy upon taking Matt Ryan in the 6th round, at pick # 68 ???

HTH can you make the comparison? The draft is a bunch of staffers (Dodds not likely there) in a live draft with different paramaters while the article is a draft strategy article using (old) ADP to give an example from on random draft spot. Staffers aren't drafting by the strategy in any one particular article

 

[Keith1]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker availableRd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

not to belabor the point, but if Matt Ryan goes at # 23 in an FBG staff draft, how can FBG (pretty much at the same time) post an article that pins much of its strategy upon taking Matt Ryan in the 6th round, at pick # 68 ???

HTH can you make the comparison? The draft is a bunch of staffers (Dodds not likely there) in a live draft with different paramaters while the article is a draft strategy article using (old) ADP to give an example from on random draft spot. Staffers aren't drafting by the strategy in any one particular article

well, why go to the trouble of posting the article if the ADP being used is obsolete. Certainly the article gives the impression it is using current ADP. And yes I think it is a fair comparison, when we are talking about a 45 slot difference, from 2nd round to the 6th.

 

[Mofongo]

Just had a draft from the 5 spot and this is what I ended up with..

Aaron Rodgers QB (RD1)

DeMarco Murray RB (RD2)

Steven Jackson RB (RD3)

Percy Harvin WR (RD4)

DeSean Jackson WR (RD5)

Malcolm Floyd WR (RD9)

Titus Young WR (RD10)

Nate Washington WR (RD11)

Jon Baldwin WR (RD14)

Shonn Greene RB (RD6)

Donald Brown RB (RD8)

Rashad Jennings RB (RD12)

Evan Royster RB (RD13)

Donald Brown RB (RD8)

Brandon Pettigrew TE (RD7)

New York Jets DT (RD15)

Randy Bullock K (RD16)

 

[Pura Vida]

Id take that team over the 'perfect draft' team!

 

[steveski]

I actually came out with a pretty similar team, but it was in a 10 team league, so I can't imagine ever getting it in a 12 team league.

1. (5) Calvin Johnson WR

2. (16) Jimmy Graham TE

3. (25) Jamaal Charles RB

4. (36) Doug Martin RB

5. (45) Eli Manning QB

6. (56) Marques Colston WR

7. (65) Peyton Hillis RB

8. (76) Eric Decker WR

9. (85) Donald Brown RB

10. (96) Jay Cutler QB

11. (105) Rashad Jennings RB

12. (116) Michael Crabtree WR

13. (125) New England DEF

14. (136) Randy Bullock K

15. (145) Alshon Jeffery WR

 

[dickey moe]

Just had a draft from the 5 spot and this is what I ended up with..Aaron Rodgers QB (RD1)DeMarco Murray RB (RD2)Steven Jackson RB (RD3)Percy Harvin WR (RD4)DeSean Jackson WR (RD5)Malcolm Floyd WR (RD9)Titus Young WR (RD10)Nate Washington WR (RD11)Jon Baldwin WR (RD14)Shonn Greene RB (RD6)Donald Brown RB (RD8)Rashad Jennings RB (RD12)Evan Royster RB (RD13)Donald Brown RB (RD8)Brandon Pettigrew TE (RD7)New York Jets DT (RD15)Randy Bullock K (RD16)

You did really well.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .

Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)

Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)

Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)

Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)

Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)

Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)

Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)

Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)

Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)

Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)

Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)

Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)

Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)

Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)

Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)

Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)

Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)

Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)

Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker available

Rd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

not to belabor the point, but if Matt Ryan goes at # 23 in an FBG staff draft, how can FBG (pretty much at the same time) post an article that pins much of its strategy upon taking Matt Ryan in the 6th round, at pick # 68 ???

HTH can you make the comparison? The draft is a bunch of staffers (Dodds not likely there) in a live draft with different paramaters while the article is a draft strategy article using (old) ADP to give an example from on random draft spot. Staffers aren't drafting by the strategy in any one particular article

well, why go to the trouble of posting the article if the ADP being used is obsolete. Certainly the article gives the impression it is using current ADP. And yes I think it is a fair comparison, when we are talking about a 45 slot difference, from 2nd round to the 6th.

If written right now there is no way Matt Ryan is the centerpiece QB of a perfect draft article anymore. That ship has sailed. There are many paid prognosticators that are getting caught here as well. FBG is not alone. Definitely adjust your strategy or it will not end up well.

 

[Badgers Fan]

There is no pick I would rather have than 1st overall. I would grab Foster, a solid rb2 and solid wr1 at the 2/3 turn, and then you have a miriad of options at that 4/5. Depends your league settings though.

 

[Statcruncher]

I used Otis' Automatic Hawk Draft Day Commander from the 5 slot and wound up with:

QB - Christian Ponder

RB - Cedric Benson

RB - Knowshon Moreno

WR - Randy Moss

WR - Stephen Hill

WR - Santonio Holmes

TE - Kellen Winslow

DEF - St. Louis

K - Neil Rackers

K - Jay Feely

K - Matt Bryant

K - Robbie Gould

K - Adam Vinatieri

K - Ray Guy

K - Jason Hanson

K - Fuad Reveiz

Can't wait for the season to start!

 

[vesihiisi]

I used Otis' Automatic Hawk Draft Day Commander from the 5 slot and wound up with:QB - Christian PonderRB - Cedric BensonRB - Knowshon MorenoWR - Randy MossWR - Stephen HillWR - Santonio HolmesTE - Kellen WinslowDEF - St. LouisK - Neil RackersK - Jay FeelyK - Matt BryantK - Robbie GouldK - Adam VinatieriK - Ray GuyK - Jason HansonK - Fuad ReveizCan't wait for the season to start!

Not bad, but I'd look to package a couple of those kickers to get a backup quarterback. It's a long season.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Where these guys actually went in the FBG staff draft last night in parenthesis . . .Rd 1 - Pick 5 – WR Calvin Johnson, Det/5 (9)Rd 2 - Pick 20 – RB Jamaal Charles, KC/7 (16)Rd 3 - Pick 29 – RB Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG/11 (35)Rd 4 - Pick 44 – RB Doug Martin, TB/5 (36)Rd 5 - Pick 53 – WR Brandon Lloyd, NE/9 (46)Rd 6 - Pick 68 – QB Matt Ryan, Atl/7 (23)Rd 7 - Pick 77 – RB Donald Brown, Ind/4 (70)Rd 8 - Pick 92 – WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oak/5 (93)Rd 9 - Pick 101 – WR Titus Young, Det/5 (89)Rd 10 - Pick 116 - TE Brent Celek, Phi/7 (90)Rd 11 - Pick 125 – WR Randall Cobb, GB/10 (106)Rd 12 - Pick 140 – RB Rashad Jennings, Jac/6 (137)Rd 13 - Pick 149 – TE Dustin Keller, NYJ/9 (111)Rd 14 - Pick 164 – Buffalo Bills Defense, Buf/8 (206)Rd 15 - Pick 173 – QB Jake Locker, Ten/11 (145)Rd 16 - Pick 188 – WR Jerome Simpson, Min/11 (168)Rd 17 - Pick 197 – RB Bilal Powell, NYJ/9 (149)Rd 18 - Pick 212 – WR Emmanuel Sanders, Pit/4 (164)Rd 19 - Pick 221 – Best kicker availableRd 20 - Pick 236 - RB Lamar Miller, Mia/7 (200)

not to belabor the point, but if Matt Ryan goes at # 23 in an FBG staff draft, how can FBG (pretty much at the same time) post an article that pins much of its strategy upon taking Matt Ryan in the 6th round, at pick # 68 ???

Matt Ryan went at the 3.02 in my current draft, 12 team league...I joked with everyone "I had to lock him up with the 2.03 or else I wasn't getting him?" His stock is thru the roof and for good reason.

 

[49er fan]

picked from the 5 spot in a 12 team league on Sunday (QB/3WR/2RBS/TE/FLEXwr,rb,te/K/D) 1pt per 10rush/rec yds, 1pt per 20 pass yds, 0.5ppr, 4pts for passing td, 6pts rush/rec td,

here's what I got:

1.05 Calvin Johnson

2.08 MJD

3.05 Steven Jackson

4.08 Brandon Lloyd

5.05 Steve Smith (CAR)

6.08 Peyton Hillis

7.05 Matt Ryan

8.08 Kevin Smith

9.05 Brandon Pettigrew (shoulda took Rashad Jennings, but decided to wait till 10th)

10.08 Austin Collie (about an hour before concussion)(some jerk face took jennings at 10.05, oh well thats what i get)

11.05 Ronnie Hillman

12.08 Kyle Rudolph

13.05 Isaiah Pead

14.08 Mason Crosby

15.05 NYJ D/ST

Not a perfect draft, but happy with it overall...kickin myself for waiting on Jennings...

QB Ryan, Waiver Wire QB

WR CJ, Lloyd, Smith, Collie

RB MJD, S Jax, Hillis, K Smith, Hillman Pead

TE Pettigrew, Rudolph

 

[Man In The Box]

Drafted from the 5 in one of my 12 teamers last night. Standard scoring, no PPR. Start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1Flex/1DEF. Matt Ryan went 2.11. I'm a fan, but it's a bit much now.

1. (5) Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)

2. (20) Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)

3. (29) Julio Jones (Atl - WR)

4. (44) Antonio Gates (SD - TE)

5. (53) Reggie Bush (Mia - RB)

6. (68) DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)

7. (77) Peyton Manning (Den - QB)

8. (92) Kevin Smith (Det - RB)

9. (101) Ryan Williams (Ari - RB)

10. (116) Nate Washington (Ten - WR)

11. (125) Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR)

12. (140) Josh Freeman (TB - QB)

13. (149) Greg Little (Cle - WR)

14. (164) Daniel Thomas (Mia - RB)

15. (173) New England (NE - DEF)

16. (188) Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)

17. (197) Kendall Hunter (SF - RB)

18. (212) LaVon Brazill (Ind - WR)

19. (221) Roberto Wallace (Mia - WR)

 

[butcher boy]

Seems like FBG is damned if they do, damned if they dont in this situation.

If they release the Perfect Draft articles early like this year, then their sleeper QB pick can potentially explode, making the article irrelevant. If they release it late, it ends up being after lots of people's drafts.

 

[Dought Man]

Drafted from the 5 in one of my 12 teamers last night. Standard scoring, no PPR. Start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1Flex/1DEF. Matt Ryan went 2.11. I'm a fan, but it's a bit much now.1. (5) Calvin Johnson (Det - WR)2. (20) Adrian Peterson (Min - RB)3. (29) Julio Jones (Atl - WR)4. (44) Antonio Gates (SD - TE)5. (53) Reggie Bush (Mia - RB)6. (68) DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)7. (77) Peyton Manning (Den - QB)8. (92) Kevin Smith (Det - RB)9. (101) Ryan Williams (Ari - RB)10. (116) Nate Washington (Ten - WR)11. (125) Alshon Jeffery (Chi - WR)12. (140) Josh Freeman (TB - QB)13. (149) Greg Little (Cle - WR)14. (164) Daniel Thomas (Mia - RB)15. (173) New England (NE - DEF)16. (188) Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)17. (197) Kendall Hunter (SF - RB)18. (212) LaVon Brazill (Ind - WR)19. (221) Roberto Wallace (Mia - WR)

You should create an article called "The Imperfect Draft"

 

[49er fan]

Seems like FBG is damned if they do, damned if they dont in this situation.If they release the Perfect Draft articles early like this year, then their sleeper QB pick can potentially explode, making the article irrelevant. If they release it late, it ends up being after lots of people's drafts.

Which is why I don't ever mention FBG to anyone (sorry FBGs)

 

[bellmar]

I am in a league that has been running for 10 years , so we know each other quite well. I have the 5th pick this year in a serpentine draft. The fifth pick is usually my favorite spot but this year I am not so thrilled. League scoring is the usual except 6 points for QB TD's instead of 4 ,and 25 yards per point passing instead of 20. I would be happy to get Rodgers here but I am not sure he will get there. I suspect the team at the 4 spot will take him. I have never taken a QB early in a draft, but after the top 3 RB's are gone this year seems to be the year for me to buck that trend. Now I believe that pick 3 will go Brady ( man-love, what can I say). First 2 picks will probably be Foster and McCoy. The 4 spot will either take Rice or Rodgers. I think he is leaning Rice . So that would leave me Rodgers, but what I think and what really happens are two different things. I have offered the team with the second pick Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.05, Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.08,and Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.08 for Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02, Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.11 and Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.11. He hasn't made a decision yet but if he goes for it that would probably let me decide between Rice and Rodgers , and at the moment I am really warming up to Rodgers as my first pick . It just seems that RB's are just not as trustworthy to make it through the season any more.

Any Comments ?

 

[Judge Smails]

I am in a league that has been running for 10 years , so we know each other quite well. I have the 5th pick this year in a serpentine draft. The fifth pick is usually my favorite spot but this year I am not so thrilled. League scoring is the usual except 6 points for QB TD's instead of 4 ,and 25 yards per point passing instead of 20. I would be happy to get Rodgers here but I am not sure he will get there. I suspect the team at the 4 spot will take him. I have never taken a QB early in a draft, but after the top 3 RB's are gone this year seems to be the year for me to buck that trend. Now I believe that pick 3 will go Brady ( man-love, what can I say). First 2 picks will probably be Foster and McCoy. The 4 spot will either take Rice or Rodgers. I think he is leaning Rice . So that would leave me Rodgers, but what I think and what really happens are two different things. I have offered the team with the second pick Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.05, Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.08,and Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.08 for Year 2012 Draft Pick 1.02, Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.11 and Year 2012 Draft Pick 4.11. He hasn't made a decision yet but if he goes for it that would probably let me decide between Rice and Rodgers , and at the moment I am really warming up to Rodgers as my first pick . It just seems that RB's are just not as trustworthy to make it through the season any more. Any Comments ?

If you think someone takes Brady early the choice is easy for you - whomever falls. My draft is going to go Foster, Rice, McCoy, Rodgers then me. Like you 6 point pass TD's, and I'm between Brady and Calvin. Really torn. No PPR.

 

[DexterDew]

got the 5 Spot on my first re-draft of the season. 12 team PPR start 2RB/2WR/TE and can flex any.

1.05 5. Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB

2.08 20. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

3.05 29. Johnson, Andre HOU WR

4.08 44. Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE

5.05 53. Lloyd, Brandon NEP WR

6.08 68. Brown, Donald IND RB

7.05 77. Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB

8.08 92. Ingram, Mark NOS RB

9.05 101. Cobb, Randall GBP WR

10.08 116. Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

11.05 125. Redman, Isaac PIT RB wanted Vereen:(

12.08 140. Helu, Roy WAS RB

13.05 149. Fitzpatrick, Ryan BUF QB

14.08 164. Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR

15.05 173. Texans, Houston HOU Def

16.08 188. Powell, Bilal NYJ RB

17.05 197. Hartley, Garrett NOS PK

18.08 212. Green GB RB

So ended up with this:

QB: Rodgers, Fitz

RB: Brown, Stewart, Ingram, P Thomas, Redman, Helu, Powell, Green

WR: Fitz, AJ, Lloyd, Cobb, Sanders

TE: AHern

What i like about grabbing a QB, WR and TE early is that i can spend a handful of picks in a row on RBs. I tend to reach for players I like because you might as well like your guys. I'm happy. Just need my RBs to Avg 10+/game, and with PPR boring guys like Brown, P Thomas and Stewart will catch 40+ passes this year for a nice baseline

 

[bellmar]

got the 5 Spot on my first re-draft of the season. 12 team PPR start 2RB/2WR/TE and can flex any. 1.05 5. Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 2.08 20. Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 3.05 29. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 4.08 44. Hernandez, Aaron NEP TE 5.05 53. Lloyd, Brandon NEP WR 6.08 68. Brown, Donald IND RB7.05 77. Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB8.08 92. Ingram, Mark NOS RB 9.05 101. Cobb, Randall GBP WR 10.08 116. Thomas, Pierre NOS RB 11.05 125. Redman, Isaac PIT RB wanted Vereen:(12.08 140. Helu, Roy WAS RB 13.05 149. Fitzpatrick, Ryan BUF QB 14.08 164. Sanders, Emmanuel PIT WR 15.05 173. Texans, Houston HOU Def 16.08 188. Powell, Bilal NYJ RB17.05 197. Hartley, Garrett NOS PK 18.08 212. Pre-Draft Selection Made (Edit)So ended up with this:QB: Rodgers, FitzRB: Brown, Stewart, Ingram, P Thomas, Redman, Helu, PowellWR: Fitz, AJ, Lloyd, Cobb, SandersTE: AHernWhat i like about grabbing a QB, WR and TE early is that i can spend a handful of picks in a row on RBs. I tend to reach for players I like because you might as well like your guys. I'm happy. Just need my RBs to Avg 10+/game, and with PPR boring guys like Brown, P Thomas and Stewart will catch 40+ passes this year for a nice baseline

This is a nice team. It is pretty much what I would expect with taking Rodgers first. I am going to leave my offer open to the team with the second pick in my draft and if he goes for it I think I will take Rodgers instead of Rice. At least that's what I say now until I have to hit the button for the pick. haha.

 

[SCT]

I think the team actually looks pretty good, but I think with the rising stock of Ryan, getting him in the 6th is probably not gonna happen. I am wondering if Dodds' opinion of when to draft the QB differs significantly in a 6pt per TD league. He states rather clearly that spending on an elite QB is a poor strategy, yet in tools like the draft dominator, the elite QBs' VBD are through the roof. Using the DD, the VBDs and auction prices for the three elite QBs are all in the overall top 5. This is difficult to reconcile with Dodds' thinking on when to take a QB unless his strategy changes drastically in a higher pt per thrown TD league. Thoughts?

It seems like there's conflicting messages in the article. In the intro, he says wait on QB as usual. But then lists the top 50 which includes half a dozen quarterbacks and says to get as many of the 50 as possible and even details that the league is changing and you should take an elite qb if the price is right.

 

[Keith1]

I think the team actually looks pretty good, but I think with the rising stock of Ryan, getting him in the 6th is probably not gonna happen. I am wondering if Dodds' opinion of when to draft the QB differs significantly in a 6pt per TD league. He states rather clearly that spending on an elite QB is a poor strategy, yet in tools like the draft dominator, the elite QBs' VBD are through the roof. Using the DD, the VBDs and auction prices for the three elite QBs are all in the overall top 5. This is difficult to reconcile with Dodds' thinking on when to take a QB unless his strategy changes drastically in a higher pt per thrown TD league. Thoughts?

It seems like there's conflicting messages in the article. In the intro, he says wait on QB as usual. But then lists the top 50 which includes half a dozen quarterbacks and says to get as many of the 50 as possible and even details that the league is changing and you should take an elite qb if the price is right.

if Matt Ryan would be there in the 6th, then the whole "waiting on a QB" theory makes a lot more sense. When you have to take him in the 3rd (if you're lucky he's even still there !!), then the strategy loses A LOT of its luster.