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Andy Dufresne

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1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford/Jimmy Clausen

Yes. Suh is the best player in the draft. No, you don't pay #1 overall money to a defensive tackle. The Lions and Falcons made the right decision taking Stafford and Ryan and the Rams will too by taking their franchise QB.

2. Detroit - Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

Great for Detroit. Bad for Suh. I mean really, can you imagine living in Detroit? Just kidding. I've never even been there.

3. Tampa Bay - Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

Will fit nicely in their scheme and is a decent consolation prize in the Suh sweepstakes.

4. Washington - Sam Bradford/Jimmy Clausen

Even though Campbell played okay down the stretch, he's probably going to be let go in free agency (however that works this year) and the new coach (Shanahan) is going to want a new guy to work with.

5. Kansas City - Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State

Will push the heretofore underachieving Albert either inside or to the right, but solidifying the line in the process.

6. Seattle - Eric Berry CB/S Tennessee

They need an upgrade at both the corner and safety spot and Berry can fill either quite well.

7. Cleveland - Joe Haden CB Florida

A BPA pick here. Another player that would fit nicely is Alabama's McClain.

8. Oakland - Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech

This pick will never happen because it makes too much sense.

9. Buffalo - Corey Wootton DE Northwestern

It's too bad that this kid tore his knee up in last year's bowl game becuase he's really come on the last 1/3 of the season. Who knows where he'd go if he'd been healthy all year?

10. Denver (from Chicago) - Rolando McClain LB Alabama

Will provide instant leadership to a defense that has some decent pieces but fell apart down the stretch - again.

11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB Florida

I don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.

12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB Clemson

Ricky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?

13. San Francisco - Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

A tackle. Yay.

14. Seattle (from Denver) - Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

An up and down player with big upside. They should have either taken Oher or just paid Peters last year.

15. New York Giants - Cameron Heyward DL Ohio St.

How shocking was it to see the Giants d-line, the one that basically won them the Super Bowl two years ago, get shredded in the second half of the season?

16. San Francisco (from Carolina) - Brandon Graham OLB Michigan

17. Tennessee - Carlos Dunlap DE Florida

18. Pittsburgh - Charles Brown OT USC

19. Atlanta - Jerry Hughes DE TCU

20. Houston - Brian Price DT UCLA

21. New York Jets - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma St.

22. Baltimore - Patrick Robinson CB Florida State

23. Arizona - Ricky Sapp LB Clemson

24. Cincinnati - Golden Tate WR Notre Dame

25. New England - Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri

26. Green Bay - Bruce Campbell, OT Maryland

27. Philadelphia - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida

28. Dallas - Taylor Mays FS Southern California

29. Minnesota - Colt McCoy QB Texas

30. New Orleans - Jason Fox OT Miami

31. San Diego - Dan Williams DT Tennessee

32. Indianapolis - Arthur Jones DT Syracuse

 
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Players I wish I could have found room for:

Jonathan Dwyer, RB - Georgia Tech

Ryan Mathews, RB - Fresno St.

Damian Williams, WR - Southern California

Mardy Gilyard, WR - Cincinnati

Brandon LaFell, WR - LSU

Jermaine Gresham, TE - Oklahoma

Bryan Bulaga, OT - Iowa

 
Is it me or was Brandon Spikes being touted as a top-5, top 10 pick six months ago? All the mock drafts I've seen lately, including this one, have him at the end of the first round. I didn't think he had a bad senior year... thoughts? Does it have to do with McClain?

 
Is it me or was Brandon Spikes being touted as a top-5, top 10 pick six months ago? All the mock drafts I've seen lately, including this one, have him at the end of the first round. I didn't think he had a bad senior year... thoughts? Does it have to do with McClain?
It has to do with being a linebacker and the fact that he tried to take a guy's eye out in a ballgame.
 
I think you're gonna see a fan revolt in DC if Okung is available at #4 and the Skins don't take him.

Yes, our OL is so bad that the fans are pining for a lineman at the top of the draft instead of a highly-regarded skill player. And I think that sentiment will actually play into the Skins decision after such a disastrous season from a PR standpoint.

 
TobiasFunke said:
I think you're gonna see a fan revolt in DC if Okung is available at #4 and the Skins don't take him. Yes, our OL is so bad that the fans are pining for a lineman at the top of the draft instead of a highly-regarded skill player. And I think that sentiment will actually play into the Skins decision after such a disastrous season from a PR standpoint.
True. But IMO Okung isn't the slam dunk LT prospect that recent guys like Joe Thomas or Jake Long have been.
 
TobiasFunke said:
I think you're gonna see a fan revolt in DC if Okung is available at #4 and the Skins don't take him. Yes, our OL is so bad that the fans are pining for a lineman at the top of the draft instead of a highly-regarded skill player. And I think that sentiment will actually play into the Skins decision after such a disastrous season from a PR standpoint.
True. But IMO Okung isn't the slam dunk LT prospect that recent guys like Joe Thomas or Jake Long have been.
Yeah, that's what I read too. I just have a feeling from being in the area and reading the blogs and the interviews and everything else that the Skins F.O. is gonna try to avoid the flashy play this season, and quell the daily outrage from the fans and media over the status of the offensive line. Obviously it all depends what the new coach (presumably Shanahan) thinks of Campbell or the aging QB F.A. crop.
 
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Just a few comments...

Andy Dufresne said:
1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford/Jimmy ClausenYes. Suh is the best player in the draft. No, you don't pay #1 overall money to a defensive tackle. The Lions and Falcons made the right decision taking Stafford and Ryan and the Rams will too by taking their franchise QB.2. Detroit - Ndamukong Suh DT NebraskaGreat for Detroit. Bad for Suh. I mean really, can you imagine living in Detroit? Just kidding. I've never even been there.
If St. Louis can protect Bradford this could be a good pick. I just don't want him rushed on to the field without protection.
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6. Seattle - Eric Berry CB/S TennesseeThey need an upgrade at both the corner and safety spot and Berry can fill either quite well.
SOD at 1.06
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14. Seattle (from Denver) - Anthony Davis OT RutgersAn up and down player with big upside. They should have either taken Oher or just paid Peters last year.21. New York Jets - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma St.
Maybe I'm too big a fan but Dez should head to Seattle at 1.14 IMO, by the time the combine is over, Dez will be viewed by most as a top 10 pick. Could fall due to the minor concern of character, but not past Seattle.
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17. Tennessee - Carlos Dunlap DE Florida20. Houston - Brian Price DT UCLA
I prefer Brian Price but Dunlap would be a fine pick. They need both, perhaps DE is more obvious right now.
 
With apparently several first-round offensive tackles available this year, the move for Washington is to trade down. With picks 6-14 having some need at QB, it's a nice spot to be in and someone will want Clausen/Bradford at 4.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford/Jimmy ClausenYes. Suh is the best player in the draft. No, you don't pay #1 overall money to a defensive tackle. The Lions and Falcons made the right decision taking Stafford and Ryan and the Rams will too by taking their franchise QB.2. Detroit - Ndamukong Suh DT NebraskaGreat for Detroit. Bad for Suh. I mean really, can you imagine living in Detroit? Just kidding. I've never even been there.3. Tampa Bay - Gerald McCoy DT OklahomaWill fit nicely in their scheme and is a decent consolation prize in the Suh sweepstakes.4. Washington - Sam Bradford/Jimmy ClausenEven though Campbell played okay down the stretch, he's probably going to be let go in free agency (however that works this year) and the new coach (Shanahan) is going to want a new guy to work with.5. Kansas City - Russell Okung OT Oklahoma StateWill push the heretofore underachieving Albert either inside or to the right, but solidifying the line in the process.6. Seattle - Eric Berry CB/S TennesseeThey need an upgrade at both the corner and safety spot and Berry can fill either quite well.7. Cleveland - Joe Haden CB FloridaA BPA pick here. Another player that would fit nicely is Alabama's McClain.8. Oakland - Derrick Morgan DE Georgia TechThis pick will never happen because it makes too much sense. 9. Buffalo - Corey Wootton DE Northwestern It's too bad that this kid tore his knee up in last year's bowl game becuase he's really come on the last 1/3 of the season. Who knows where he'd go if he'd been healthy all year?10. Denver (from Chicago) - Rolando McClain LB AlabamaWill provide instant leadership to a defense that has some decent pieces but fell apart down the stretch - again.11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?13. San Francisco - Trent Williams OT OklahomaA tackle. Yay.14. Seattle (from Denver) - Anthony Davis OT RutgersAn up and down player with big upside. They should have either taken Oher or just paid Peters last year.15. New York Giants - Cameron Heyward DL Ohio St.How shocking was it to see the Giants d-line, the one that basically won them the Super Bowl two years ago, get shredded in the second half of the season?16. San Francisco (from Carolina) - Brandon Graham OLB Michigan17. Tennessee - Carlos Dunlap DE Florida18. Pittsburgh - Charles Brown OT USC19. Atlanta - Jerry Hughes DE TCU20. Houston - Brian Price DT UCLA21. New York Jets - Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma St.22. Baltimore - Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 23. Arizona - Ricky Sapp LB Clemson24. Cincinnati - Golden Tate WR Notre Dame25. New England - Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri26. Green Bay - Bruce Campbell, OT Maryland 27. Philadelphia - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida28. Dallas - Taylor Mays FS Southern California29. Minnesota - Colt McCoy QB Texas 30. New Orleans - Jason Fox OT Miami31. San Diego - Dan Williams DT Tennessee32. Indianapolis - Arthur Jones DT Syracuse
Just thoughts/feedback/criticisms:1) Thoughts on Bradford/Clausen? Is it down to these 2? I guess Snead played himself out of consideration, Locker withdrew himself. Any other QB1 challengers?2) I don't think the difference between first pick money and second pick money is significant, particularly if you believe in the "first pick discount theory" since the #1 team can negotiate with several players. If Suh is worth going #2, he's worth going #1.3) I saw one mock with McCoy falling to the second half of the first round, but I agree that he should be top five.4)5) Okung is interesting. I get the sense that he's more a great guy on paper than on the field. Not saying that's a bad thing, as Andre Smith was more a great guy on the field than on paper.6) Can Berry really play corner? 7) If Cleveland has to go offense, particularly passing game. They won FOUR games this year with fewer than 100 passing yards, and usually a bunch of incompletions and INTs.8) I guess picking offensive players hasn't worked for them...9) Would join N. Harris and L. Castillo as the only first round picks from NW in the last 25 years. Not sure if BUF goes DE again though.10) Great fit.11) Going to see this a lot.12) Not sure if Spiller grades this highly. Amazing college player but what's his role in the NFL? I think he'll be a good pick, but not sure he goes top 12. Miami would never spend a pick this high on a returner unless they could draft his whole family.13) Seems reasonable.14) Ditto.15) Don't think the Giants go DL, regardless of the results in the second half of the season. Haden would be a great fit for them, if he fell. Might trade up?16) Graham is a beast.17) Dunlap and VY could rewrite the IQ books.18) What does Pitt need? They're set at the skill positions, and the D looked great until TP went down. Could see a DB, but OT makes sense, too.19) How is Atlanta picking so far down in this draft? That struck me as odd.20) Doesn't it seem like Houston is always taking a DL?21) Doubt Bryant lasts to 32, but it would be amazing. Jets need a WR/Returner/Playmaker.22) Good fit, although I think Flacco needs a weapon or two.23) I haven't followed the ARI front seven too much in '09, but I thought they were pretty deep going into this year. How have they done?24) I like Tate a lot, but a lot of people are saying he won't get a first round grade. Good fit to replace Slim/Coles.25) Pats need defense, defense, defense.26) Obvious fit.27) Seems like a great player for the Eagles type of defense; smart, intense, athletic player.28) Would be surprised if Mays falls this far; some were projecting him top-5 not too long ago. Roy Williams 2 for Dallas?29) Interesting pick. I think McCoy may get eaten alive Thursday night, and fall ala Troy Smith. Not sure his measurables are that much better, even if he's 2 inches taller.30) NO gets Jammal Brown back, right? Think NO goes run D with this pick, especially if that's their Achilles heel in a loss to Dallas.31) FYI, you need an NFC team in this slot. SD probably can't back on their Jamal coming back, so this makes sense. Don't know enough about Williams -- is he be a 3-4 nose?32) Indy, like NO, has an Achilles heel in the front seven. Don't know much about Jones. Is he more a Dungy type or a Caldwell type (big body)? Could see the Colts going OL, as their run blocking is just plain bad.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
Chase Stuart said:
Is it me or was Brandon Spikes being touted as a top-5, top 10 pick six months ago? All the mock drafts I've seen lately, including this one, have him at the end of the first round. I didn't think he had a bad senior year... thoughts? Does it have to do with McClain?
It has to do with being a linebacker and the fact that he tried to take a guy's eye out in a ballgame.
:thumbup:I don't think the eye gouging thing will hurt his draft stock one bit. LBs get drafted highly when they're elite; just not sure how the scouts see Spikes. I think he grades out much better than Maualuga or Laurinaitis. Is he Jerod Mayo? Patrick Willis? A.J. Hawk? Vilma?
 
Andy Dufresne said:
1. St. Louis - Sam Bradford/Jimmy ClausenYes. Suh is the best player in the draft. No, you don't pay #1 overall money to a defensive tackle. The Lions and Falcons made the right decision taking Stafford and Ryan and the Rams will too by taking their franchise QB.2. Detroit - Ndamukong Suh DT NebraskaGreat for Detroit. Bad for Suh. I mean really, can you imagine living in Detroit? Just kidding. I've never even been there.
I really hope you are right about this :thumbup: And as far as Detroit goes, if a guy named Ndamukong Suh can live in Nebraska, Detroit might not be that much of an adjustment for him.
 
I heard Suh may have bad knees any insight?

What happened to Mount Cody, thought he would be a top 5 pick last summer.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no. The Jags don't have a second round pick so if anything I could see them trading back and taking Tebow while picking up another draft pick. But at 11 I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no. The Jags don't have a second round pick so if anything I could see them trading back and taking Tebow while picking up another draft pick. But at 11 I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
The tough part is I think if he goes to Jacksonville, the pressure will be there to play him sooner than it would be at other teams. Not a good combination for a guy that isn't NFL ready.Put him on NE or NO or IND or MIA or MIN, let him develop and play in certain packages, and I think he'd be successful. I think the Vikings would be a very good fit, as he'd get a year of training and could reunite with Harvin.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no. The Jags don't have a second round pick so if anything I could see them trading back and taking Tebow while picking up another draft pick. But at 11 I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
I agree. They'd be better off taking just about anyone else.
 
A few thoughts for Chase:

1) Thoughts on Bradford/Clausen? Is it down to these 2? I guess Snead played himself out of consideration, Locker withdrew himself. Any other QB1 challengers?

None. Snead isn't on the radar anymore and should probably go back to school. People are high on Mallett and Pike, but neither are ready either.

2) I don't think the difference between first pick money and second pick money is significant, particularly if you believe in the "first pick discount theory" since the #1 team can negotiate with several players. If Suh is worth going #2, he's worth going #1.

I think it's quite a bit when it comes to guaranteed money. And it's not just for the money that the Rams bypass Suh.

6) Can Berry really play corner?

I think so.

7) If Cleveland has to go offense, particularly passing game. They won FOUR games this year with fewer than 100 passing yards, and usually a bunch of incompletions and INTs.

They have to upgrade their passing game. Just not with the first pick.

9) Would join N. Harris and L. Castillo as the only first round picks from NW in the last 25 years. Not sure if BUF goes DE again though.

There are rumblings that Schobel may retire but even if he doesn't they could still use a player like Wootton.

12) Not sure if Spiller grades this highly. Amazing college player but what's his role in the NFL? I think he'll be a good pick, but not sure he goes top 12. Miami would never spend a pick this high on a returner unless they could draft his whole family.

I think he's a multi purpose player that would add a spark to a moribund offense.

18) What does Pitt need? They're set at the skill positions, and the D looked great until TP went down. Could see a DB, but OT makes sense, too.

Their o-line and d-backs are not good.

23) I haven't followed the ARI front seven too much in '09, but I thought they were pretty deep going into this year. How have they done?

They've been pretty good but I don't think they're going to show Dansby the money.

28) Would be surprised if Mays falls this far; some were projecting him top-5 not too long ago. Roy Williams 2 for Dallas?

His own college coach has questioned his coverage ability. Maybe he'll be better off moving to LB like Thomas Davis did for Carolina.
 
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Andy Dufresne said:
11. Jacksonville - Tim Tebow QB FloridaI don't like this pick, but after his bowl performance it seems plausible.
Please no. Just no... I don't see how they can take Tebow. I don't think he'll grade out even close to that position and I believe that the amount of tickets he would sell has been greatly exaggerated.
Certainly interest and advertising/ticket sales for Aug/Sep/Oct would benefit. Yet, when JAX/FL fans see the results, interest will somewhat return to normal. Congratulations to Tebow for his entertaining and super succesful career. He is a very special NCAA star. And, there is no shame is being only an All-Star NCAA player. The required NFL skills for a star QB today are very limited. Long gone are demand for the 'field generals' of yesteryear. Think about it. In our most popular sport, how many very good quarterbacks are there? 20 or so? It's almost easiler to be a US senator than a NFL roster QB.
 
Chase Stuart said:
I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :thumbup:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
 
With apparently several first-round offensive tackles available this year, the move for Washington is to trade down. With picks 6-14 having some need at QB, it's a nice spot to be in and someone will want Clausen/Bradford at 4.
That would be a good spot for Seattle to trade up to given their two first round selections.
 
Chase Stuart said:
I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :thumbup:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
Jets defense is already pretty elite.
 
Chase Stuart said:
I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :thumbup:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
I'm not sure Mays is the best complement to Leonhard, but either way the Jets need at offense is much stronger than the need at defense. If you think Mays is going to be the next Bob Sanders, and say need to damned, that's one thing. But I think there are a bunch of talented WRs available, the Jets don't need a safety as badly as they need a WR, and Mays isn't a slam dunk pick.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
 
Chase Stuart said:
I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :lmao:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
Jets defense is already pretty elite.
Yeah but with that coach and the foundation that they have adding a DE that can get to the QB out of base formation (without blitz support) and an impact safety (Rhodes finished the year strong but had a lot of weak plays all year) would make this a defense that would automatically keep the JETS in all 16 games.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB Clemson

Ricky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
I want the Dolphins to draft a WR. They should draft a WR. But I don't think BP will ever draft a first round WR.I considered a LB but in the end, I think a playmaker like Spiller could be used in a variety of ways by the Fins. The Vikes didn't really need Harvin either (not same but similar player) but look how he opened up their offense.

 
Yeah but with that coach and the foundation that they have adding a DE that can get to the QB out of base formation (without blitz support) and an impact safety (Rhodes finished the year strong but had a lot of weak plays all year) would make this a defense that would automatically keep the JETS in all 16 games.
How often are they in the 3-4 vs. the 4-3. They run a hybrid type defense, no?When you say a DE, what role are you thinking of?
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
How did Parcells and Antonio Bryant's brief relationship go? He was dealt in 2004 after a year and 5 games with Parcells, but I don't remember why he was dealt. Assuming it's not a horrible relationship, Bryant should land in Miami as their #1.
 
With the terrible play of Nick Harper CB is a must for TEN.

Cecil believes in pressure with the front four and that was supposed to come from KVB and Hayes together with the DT rotation. Haye has been a disappointment as has Jason Jones (can't seem to stay healthy) but Tony Brown has done well. If Jones stays healthy and Marks comes on there should be plenty of pressure up the middle in the DT rotation. Question is if KVB can do more than spin and flail his arms a bit next year. Hayes seem solid if unspectacular.

Even with the lack of pressure from the edges Harper just can't cover anyone any more. He's lost all his steps. Mouton and the other guy they drafted this year has shown nothing that would indicate they are ready to play across from Finnegan and Rod Hood isn't the answer either.

DE is a must, but so is CB. Not sure a quality CB will be available in the 3rd which is their 2nd pick.

 
Does Spikes project as a middle LB? If so, I think that the Eagles would take Mays at that spot. They desperately need a safety and Stewart Bradley will be back in the middle next year (not that another LB, any LB, would hurt the team).

 
Chase Stuart said:
I'm so happy about the thought of Bryant as a Jet that I won't even offer any criticisms of this mock draft. :coffee:
Wouldn't you rather have Taylor Mays, S instead?Need an upgrade at that position.Get an edge Pass Rusher in free agency, bring back Jenkins and a guy like Mays at Safety and the JETS defense becomes really ELITE.
Anyone else think Taylor Mays is gonna be a bust? Granted he's physically and athletically a freak, but i don't think he's much of a football player.He goes for the knockout blow too often instead of wrapping up, and he seems to have trouble making tackles on agile players who can juke out of his grasp. Also in coverage he's not very good. I'm not 100% positive he's gonna be a bust, but he has a high bust potential imo.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
:coffee: & totally agree.No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
How did Parcells and Antonio Bryant's brief relationship go? He was dealt in 2004 after a year and 5 games with Parcells, but I don't remember why he was dealt. Assuming it's not a horrible relationship, Bryant should land in Miami as their #1.
Both Bryant & Miles have ties to Parcells - I could see either one landing in Miami.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
:thumbup: & totally agree.No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
Have the Dolphins given up on Cameron Wake at OLB? The guy seemed to produce when on the field last year.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
:goodposting: & totally agree.No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
Have the Dolphins given up on Cameron Wake at OLB? The guy seemed to produce when on the field last year.
Don't think they gave up on him - they're still developing him. "Poor against the run" is Sparano's stated reason for keeping Wake off the field except as a situational pass rusher. Whether or not that's the real reason is anyone's guess.Porter/Taylor are nearing the end - Wake is the only servicable backup IMO. They need a compete overhaul at LB.
 
Andy Dufresne said:
12. Miami - C.J. Spiller RB ClemsonRicky will soon retire. Brown can't seem to stay healthy. And couldn't this team use a playmaker?
Hooray for mock draft season!I think Miami's two biggest need positions are LB (both OLB and ILB) and WR. Although RB is a concern given Ricky's age and Ronnie's injuries, it doesn't need to be filled with a round one RB. That would be considered a luxury - and we already drafted Pat White last year (argh). A big, fast WR like Dez Bryant makes a world of sense here but unfortunately, Parcells hasnt shown a propensity for taking WR's early. On the other hand, I can totally see the Dolphins taking McClain if hes available (but Im guessing hes gone).
:shrug: & totally agree.No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
Have the Dolphins given up on Cameron Wake at OLB? The guy seemed to produce when on the field last year.
Not at all. Hes been excellent in pass rushing situations and will continue to see more time on the field next year. Still, Miami needs LB's as Jason Taylor, Joey Porter and Akin Adoyele are all 30+. To make matters worse, their fourth starter, Channing Crowder, went down for the year. Parcells retooled the DL (Langford, Merling, McDaniel) in year one and the secondary in year two (Smith, Davis, Wilson and Clemons) - this offseason Miami needs to get younger at both LB positions. Wouldn't be surprised if two of his first three picks are LB's in April.
 
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Does Spikes project as a middle LB? If so, I think that the Eagles would take Mays at that spot. They desperately need a safety and Stewart Bradley will be back in the middle next year (not that another LB, any LB, would hurt the team).
Spikes would be in the middle. Bradley is much better suited to play strong side.
 
No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
The "no way" stuff always makes me laugh.
Then I should have said - no way IMO. I just don't see it - WR is a bigger need and I doubt they take a WR at 12.Just have a gut feeling that the Dolphins will go heavy on D this year - ILB, OLB, NT, Safety.WR, TE and maybe a RB to be addressed in FA or much later in the draft.I lenjoyed reading your mock draft - just don't agree with you on the Miami pick at 12.
 
No way they take a RB here at #12. They'll take a ILB or OLB with this pick - hoping McClain makes it to 12.
The "no way" stuff always makes me laugh.
Then I should have said - no way IMO. I just don't see it - WR is a bigger need and I doubt they take a WR at 12.Just have a gut feeling that the Dolphins will go heavy on D this year - ILB, OLB, NT, Safety.

WR, TE and maybe a RB to be addressed in FA or much later in the draft.

I lenjoyed reading your mock draft - just don't agree with you on the Miami pick at 12.
That's cool. Just rememer that teams don't always draft for need at the earliest possible draft slot.
 
30. New Orleans - Jason Fox OT Miami
This pick would make sense if Stinchcomb leaves via FA or Jamaal Brown can't come back from injury. Bushrod played well enough in most games but was too often abused by quality pass rushers. Otherwise, I see this as the year that they finally(!) take an OLB. The Saints had one real glaring weakness on the defensive side and that's run defense. Watching Jonathan Stewart run 67 yards without a Saints player laying a hand on him this weekend just drove that point home. If there is any way for them to get a legit starting OLB this offseason then I expect them to. Otherwise, OT makes sense.
 
20) Doesn't it seem like Houston is always taking a DL?
2004 - Jason Babin2005 - Travis Johnson2006 - Mario Williams2007 - Amobi OkoyeHas been a lot, but the first two guys were outright busts drafted by the previous regime and no longer on the team. Babin was traded to Seattle and Johnson was outright cut. Okoye was a high upside pick that hasn't panned out yet. Everybody knows about Mario.I'm just glad to see a mock with something other than a 1st round RB which I assume 95% of mocks will have for the Texans this offseason. At this point of the year, IMO there just doesn't seem to be one out there that would be a good fit or a value at #20. A DT, a DB or even a WR makes more sense to me and then maybe a RB in the 2nd.
 
The Packers seem to be all about fit and I wonder if Bulaga would be higher on their list than Campbell. You've definitely nailed a position need with that pick though.

 

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