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Coach Joe.

 

[fatness]

Redskins Minicamp Day 3

First-hand account

The day started again with Danny Smith working players on teams. As always a firecracker.

"I want you to stun him! Come off the line and stun his ###!"

Today players such as McIntosh were more noticible playing teams. They did a more formal punt coverage drill. I'm afraid Rocky did nothing of note with teams, except get yelled at by Coach Smith on a blocking drill. Rocky was a blocker for the receiving team. While his speed was good he failed to commit to blocking the player looking to make the tackle, instead running with him down the field:

"At some point you got to take him Rock! Dig in and stop him!"

I spent a lot of pre 7-on-7 drills looking at defense. I watched Coach Lindsey and the LB corp for a good 15 minutes. Let me tell you, Coach Lindsey is one of those guys who appear terminally pissed off and you have to be tough just working for him.

"I don't want to see that farm-boy step s**t! Keep those feet together!"

"F**king see it!!!"

No one was spared today in his group with most having to perform drills again and again until done correctly.

Player of the day on defense - Kevin Simon

Simon was all around the ball as the middle LB getting tipped balls and tackles for loss.

After him I would say McNeil had the best day for LBs taking good angles and reacting quickly.

Next would be McIntosh. Although as I read through my notes he did get a sack and covered very well during the 7-on-7 getting a "there you go" from one of the coaches. However, he appeared not qite as sharp as Simon and McNeil and took a bad angle on one play allowing a 10-yard completion to go long.

Safety Reed Doughty had a good day and was again a good interview.

Player of the day on offense - Jesse Lumsden

There were a couple of huge plays for the offense, and Jesse was only in on one, but Jesse seemed to get the most accolades from Al Saunders today and throughout the camp.

Oh, and, by the way - I did get an interview with him. He is the man. I just hope he did enough to stick around. He is pretty big.

Next was one of my favorites Andre Thurman who made a spectacular side catch, making a good adjustment with a CB drapped all over him.

Jason Williams from U-Conn had the most impressive catch making a great adjustment on the ball on the sideline.

Quotes of the day

"Hurry hurry. Catch the ball. These are easy plays." - Jerry Gray

"Everything we do is attack, attack, attack! Nothing is side to side, everything is downhill." - Greg Williams

Look right, do right! Look right, do right!" - Greg Williams

"All that huddle call is is an organizational way to whoop ###, 11 on 1!" - Greg Williams

"It takes one score to win a game!" - Al Saunders

"We're losing it! We're losing it! Too many mistakes out of the backfield!" - Ernest Byner

"Come on Rock, you gotta run! Don't get that far-away look in your eyes!" - Greg Williams to Rocky McIntosh

 

[fatness]

Lavar Arrington was interviewed (today I think) by Stephen A. Smith. Lavar says he was never a "Gibbs guy" but was always a "Redskin guy". And he says he "covered for a coach. Covering for a coach, go figure."

Link --- click on "ESPN Motion: LaVar Arrington with the Giants Now... "

Lavar's still in love with the camera and running his mouth.

 

[dgreen]

Lavar Arrington was interviewed (today I think) by Stephen A. Smith. Lavar says he was never a "Gibbs guy" but was always a "Redskin guy". And he says he "covered for a coach. Covering for a coach, go figure."

Link --- click on "ESPN Motion: LaVar Arrington with the Giants Now... "

Lavar's still in love with the camera and running his mouth.

If I thought I wasn't a "Gibbs guy," I'd assume there was something wrong with me, not Gibbs.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Lavar Arrington was interviewed (today I think) by Stephen A. Smith. Lavar says he was never a "Gibbs guy" but was always a "Redskin guy". And he says he "covered for a coach. Covering for a coach, go figure."

Link --- click on "ESPN Motion: LaVar Arrington with the Giants Now... "

Lavar's still in love with the camera and running his mouth.

I hope in week 5 we run every play at him. But knowing Lavar he'll probally be hurt by that week.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

Anyone know why Redskins Travel hasn't posted a schedule yet?

 

[redman]

Sounds like Campbell is working hard to get up to speed.

Quarterback Campbell Is Hitting the BooksHe Studies New Offense in Effort to Move Up the Depth ChartBy Jason La CanforaWashington Post Staff WriterSunday, May 14, 2006; E01Each Monday afternoon, Washington Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell and first-year quarterbacks coach Bill Lazor head to the deserted practice fields at Redskins Park to review the meticulous footwork of the Redskins' new offense, refining every precise pivot and swivel of the hips. For months they have met alone on a day when the team's practice facility is largely empty. Just a player, a coach, a football, a massive playbook and a vast potential they hope to fulfill.After watching from the sideline as a rookie in 2005, Campbell, 24, is positioned to push for the backup job behind veteran Mark Brunell this season, and, should Brunell get injured, perhaps make his NFL debut.As the Redskins begin their offseason workouts this week, culminating in next month's minicamp, all eyes will be on Campbell. The Redskins made a hefty investment to acquire Campbell last year, trading three picks, including a first rounder, to make him the 25th selection overall in the NFL draft. Campbell has approached this offseason by handcuffing himself to the playbook, sequestering himself in the film room and absorbing as much information from coaches and teammates as possible.Getting Campbell ready to contribute in 2006 will not be easy. For the sixth straight year -- dating from his freshman season at Auburn -- he is being required to learn a new offense. He is working with his sixth quarterbacks coach and, with the hiring of Al Saunders from the Kansas City Chiefs in January, his sixth offensive coordinator. While the terminology of Coach Joe Gibbs's and Saunders's offenses are similar, the requirements of the quarterbacks and receivers this season will be quite different.The "Mondays with Billy" sessions are but one part of Campbell's development. Campbell has had individual tutoring from Saunders as well, he throws to receivers informally whenever possible and has been at Redskins Park religiously since the season ended in January. He returned home to Mississippi for just two weeks before heading back to Loudoun County.Most nights are spent poring over plays and formations, and Campbell is usually at Redskins Park from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. at least four days a week. The Redskins' growing playbook, which spans the 6-foot-4 quarterback's prodigious forearm, is his constant fashion accessory."We'll go out to get a bite to eat a lot, because we don't cook, but Jason spends most of his time in that playbook," said cornerback Carlos Rogers, Campbell's teammate at Auburn who lives two houses from him now. "All that guy does is go home after his workout and study. He puts in serious hours, but they've got a new offense and the quarterbacks are the leaders of the offense, so he has to put in his time. Jason's a smart guy, and he knows how hard he has to work."Gibbs, Saunders and Lazor admit that it is impossible to determine when Campbell will master the offense and merit regular playing time, but the offseason workouts and preseason will provide a clue about his development. Gibbs has said that Campbell will receive ample playing time in exhibition games, and his performance then will be the best indicator of where he stands. The Redskins signed quarterback Todd Collins, a longtime Saunders disciple who understands the new offense, should Campbell fail to secure the backup position. But Gibbs says he remains upbeat about Campbell's potential."He's done it all through high school and done it all in college, and we think he's going to do it all up here," Gibbs said. "I think it's a process for a young guy to come along, and I think he knows now, last year was one set of circumstances where you know you're probably not going to play, and this year he knows it's a different deal. He's going to be getting a lot of focus, a lot of attention and a lot of playing time, and we're excited about getting him in there and letting him go to work."Before then, however, Campbell must once again learn a new offense. "I can't imagine how tough that is for a player," said Lazor, who was a quarterback at Cornell and coached the position in college. "For Jason to walk in this building with a smile on his face says a lot about his disposition, because some days I'm sure he's thinking, 'Here we go again.' "Indeed, this is a chore Campbell knows all too well."Sometimes I think about all the things I overcame to get to this point -- all the different changes and offenses -- and you always wonder how much better do you think you could be if you were just in one offense," Campbell said. "But everything happens for a reason, and we're glad to have Coach Saunders. He's a great coach, and I think once I learn his whole offense I'll have the opportunity to be a great quarterback here."To do so, Campbell must become fluent in all of Saunders's plays and be able to execute them with speed, authority and dexterity. Saunders asks his quarterbacks to break the huddle quickly, take short drop-backs on pass plays, read the defense quickly to determine who is open and then pass the ball to a spot, rather than to a receiver's hands. The quarterback must throw the ball before the receiver's cut in his route, requiring precise timing."There's no question about what Jason can do with his arm," wide receiver Santana Moss said. "But grasping this offense, and knowing where he needs to be with the ball and when it has to be there, that's going to be his issue. And once he gets that, he should be all right."Saunders said the repeated coaching changes Campbell has endured have deprived him of developing "a real solid base with which to work from in a fundamental and technique standpoint." He must smooth those rough edges while also trying to digest the team's expansive playbook."The quarterbacks that have played in this system have had a very high football aptitude," Saunders said. "They have to be bright guys with a great ability to retain and gather information, because this offense builds and builds and builds, and part of the success we've had on offense is the versatility and volume we have. We go into a game with 250, 300 plays, and that changes every single week and multiplies itself through the course of a year. It's a lot of timing. It's rhythm. The game is played at a very, very, fast, upbeat tempo, and all of those things begin with the quarterback."Brunell, 35, is adjusting as well, but he has 147 games of regular season experience and deep knowledge to draw from. Collins, 34, is a Saunders favorite even though he has made just 17 starts since 1995. "Todd is as good a technician as there is in this passing game," Saunders said. "He just hasn't had a chance to play because [Chiefs Pro Bowl starter] Trent [Green] was always healthy."Collins and Campbell are paired together in drills -- they are right-handed while Brunell is a lefty -- so Campbell can learn from the veteran. Campbell also can turn to Collins with questions about the offense, and about the preparation necessary to be a No. 2 quarterback. Should Campbell get a chance to play this season, he said he aims to make the most of it. The results may be slow to come at first, he said, but over time -- and with the luxury of continuity in one offense -- Campbell is confident that he will succeed."Everyone has their ups and downs," Campbell said. "If you think about Peyton [Manning], when he started he was 3-13 and took a lot of lumps and lot of licks in the mouth, and now you look at him and he's probably the best quarterback in the NFL. So guys take their lumps early in the careers, but it all prepares you for the future. You've got to take it in stride and you've got to understand that you're going to make good plays and bad plays, but you're always learning and in the process of getting better."© 2006 The Washington Post Company

 

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What to expect from the offense under Al Saunders:

Wahington Post link

Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs, two coaching disciples of Don Coryell, employ offensive systems that emphasize formation shifts and player movement before the snap and they use near identical terminology. Still, expect Saunders to make some changes, especially in the passing attack, as he takes over the offense from Gibbs.

Under Gibbs Last Season

· Better overall production

· Improved pace of play-calling

· Overly concentrated passing game: Santana Moss accounted for 1,483 and Chris Cooley 774 of team's 3,346 receiving yards.

Under Saunders This Season

· Even faster and more organized huddles

· Better footwork by quarterbacks on short drop-backs

· Speedy reads through five potential receivers

· Quick releases of passes, preceding the intended receiver's cut

 

[Sidewinder16]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval.

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

 

[Prime]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval.

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

 

[thayman]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval. 

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

Looks like no firearm was involved. FL is pretty stiff with firearm penalties, and it's doubtful that the DA would let it go if one was involved.

 

[dgreen]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval.

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

Funny, my reaction was, "So they trumped up the charges in the beginning?" They went from a max sentence of 46 years down to no jail time and donating some money. They had no case. Maybe because he didn't do what he was charged with doing.

 

[fatness]

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

The only evidence that he brandished a firearm is internet gossip. Thank you for doing your part.

 

[fatness]

Here's a pdf file of the website of the former "prosecutor" in Sean Taylor's case, the one who is also a DJ: Link

Video of Sean Taylor hits, and some pretty good pass coverage too: Link

 

[buster c]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval. 

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

this is approaching Michael Irvin status. I see Taylor as an ESPN host by 2015

 

[fatness]

Washington Times story

However, the recent switch in prosecutors from Michael Grieco to Abe Laeser made all the difference. Taylor; his father, Pedro, the police chief in Florida City, Fla.; and his attorneys met with Laeser at the assistant state?s attorney's office on Tuesday. Taylor's team gathered again yesterday at attorney Richard Sharpstein's office to consider the offer.

"The state offered a plea deal that couldn't be resisted," attorney Edward Carhart said. "Even though I didn't consider the state to have a strong case, the jury could have believed the state's witnesses. With a mandatory three-year sentence, Sean would have been a convicted felon, and that would've meant the end of his football career."

Yet, Carhart said Taylor, who has maintained his innocence throughout the past year, rejected the offer at first.

"Sean turned it down and walked out of the office," Carhart said. "His father went and talked to him, and Sean came back and accepted the deal. Sean wants to get on with his life."

In the courtroom today, Taylor told Miami-Dade County Circuit Judge Leonard Glick that the plea was "a hard pill for me to swallow" because "this is not something I think I'm guilty of."

However, Taylor added: "I believe it's in my best interest to accept this plea."

Washington Post article

Taylor had been accused of brandishing a gun, making threats and initiating a street fight on June 1 of last year with a group of people he believed were responsible for the theft of his two all-terrain vehicles out of a neighbor's driveway. After Taylor retreated from the fight, his blue GMC Yukon Denali was sprayed with gunfire while it was parked in a neighbor's driveway.

No charges were filed in the shooting incident, but Taylor was charged days later with one count of misdemeanor battery and one count of felony assault with a weapon. The felony charge was tripled in January with the addition of two additional victims to the case, raising the maximum prison time he faced from 16 to 46 years. The three felony charges each carried a minimum three-year sentence. By reducing one felony assault charge to simple assault and eliminating two others, the plea agreement essentially removed a gun from Taylor's hand in the narrative of what happened. That, Sharpstein said, represented an important shift to the NFL.

This case "is not as it was first advertised," Sharpstein said. "At worst, [Taylor] got into a fight confronting the thieves who had stolen his property." Sharpstein and his wife, Janice Burton Sharpstein, argued since they joined Taylor's defense team in February that the charges were overblown and that Taylor had been singled out by a publicity-hungry prosecutor. That prosecutor, Mike Grieco, gave up the case in April after Sharpstein discovered Grieco had links to media reports of the Taylor case on a personal Web site that detailed his exploits as a Miami Beach disc jockey.

"It is unequivocally clear the original prosecutor was ego-driven . . . and wasn't looking at this case for what it was," Sharpstein said.

In addition to the no-contest pleas, Taylor agreed to visit 10 schools in the Miami area over the next 18 months and speak to students about the importance of maintaining self-control and furthering their education. He also agreed to donate a $1,000 educational scholarship to one student at each school and pay $429 in court costs.

"I think this will help me reach some kids and show them this is not the way to be," Taylor said after the hearing. "I've got to educate some kids."

 

[fatness]

this is approaching Michael Irvin status. I see Taylor as an ESPN host by 2015

When it gets to the point that he stabs someone, it'll approach Michael Irvin status.

 

[Bizkiteer]

this is approaching Michael Irvin status.  I see Taylor as an ESPN host by 2015

When it gets to the point that he stabs someone, it'll approach Michael Irvin status.

..or gets caught w/ some coke, pipe and hookers!

 

[redman]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval. 

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

Funny, my reaction was, "So they trumped up the charges in the beginning?" They went from a max sentence of 46 years down to no jail time and donating some money. They had no case. Maybe because he didn't do what he was charged with doing.

Exactly. I'm sure Taylor was plenty angry and confronted those guys, but what exactly happened we'll never know because the bozos he confronted were . . . well, bozos. The FL prosecutor had every reason to take this to trial if the evidence was in any way persuasive given the high profile nature of the case. The problem was that once they got starry-eyed Mike Grieco out of the way, it became all too apparent that there really wasn't much there in the way of proof, certainly not when you're dealing with a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard.

 

[fatness]

Mark Brunell broke his finger.

Washington Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell has a small fracture in his left index finger and is expected to miss two to three weeks of offseason workouts.

Brunell was hurt during a workout earlier this week, but the team did not announce the injury until Friday. Because Brunell is left-handed, he will have to sit out most of the remaining spring practices, although he might return in time for the June 16-18 minicamp.

The 35-year-old Brunell is expected to be ready for the start of training camp in late July.

Brunell is coming off one of his best seasons. He threw for 23 touchdowns and 10 interceptions to help lead the Redskins to their first playoff appearance since 1999.

I guess Mr. Campbell will get some more work.

 

[jurb26]

Sean Taylor agrees to a plea deal.

He's agreed to plead guilty to two misdemeanors, all felony charges dismissed, pending a judges approval.

He's also agreed to visit and donate money to 10 inner city schools.

So he bought off the charges. 10k to schools gets you our of brandishing a firearm?

Funny, my reaction was, "So they trumped up the charges in the beginning?" They went from a max sentence of 46 years down to no jail time and donating some money. They had no case. Maybe because he didn't do what he was charged with doing.

Exactly. I'm sure Taylor was plenty angry and confronted those guys, but what exactly happened we'll never know because the bozos he confronted were . . . well, bozos. The FL prosecutor had every reason to take this to trial if the evidence was in any way persuasive given the high profile nature of the case. The problem was that once they got starry-eyed Mike Grieco out of the way, it became all too apparent that there really wasn't much there in the way of proof, certainly not when you're dealing with a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard.

I still get a kick going back and reading those thread last year about how guilty Taylor was before even a smidge of real evidence was brought up. Gotta love that guilty until proven innocent shtick a lot of guys try to pull around here.

 

[fatness]

I get a kick out of it too. I remember reading posts on this board saying Taylor was caught riding around with a gun, openly threatening people. There were no news reports of him being caught with a gun. There were no police reports of him being caught with a gun. Amazing how rumors go wild when it supports someone's beliefs or feelings, isn't it?

 

[fatness]

The Sean Taylor ATV theft/shooting incident hit the news 1 year ago today.

Footballguys thread

 

[jurb26]

The Sean Taylor ATV theft/shooting incident hit the news 1 year ago today.

Footballguys thread

Yes, lots of shtick in that thread.

 

[fatness]

Yeah, there are some gems.

I'm glad nittanylion was wrong about this one.

"...and The Curse goes on and on..." - Daniel Snyder is indeed The Ancient Mariner who done killed the albatross.

I didn't always believe in curses, but I'm tellin' ya, fellow 'skins fans - This crap is gonna continue until JKC's name goes back on the stadium, and they swap out those FedEx awnings for our beloved Burgundy and Gold. Man, driving up to that stadium, you'd think you were on your way to a Jamaican Carnival, not the battlefield of our once proud franchise. Absolutely disgraceful.



I think Jesus summed it up pretty well - "My God, my God - why have you forsaken me?"



What's next?

A future judge here.

Jurb26, give it up bro. Theres about a 95% chance he did it. Put the pieces of the puzzle together. ATV stolen (Sean Taylors), shots fired....police want to question him. Hmmmm

This one was dead-on.

plea bargain time, slap on the wrist, community service, anger managment and a fine.

That's what my crystal ball says

And now la creme de la creme, the best one of the bunch.

Get a grip on reality. Taylor performed a reckless act that could have cost someone their life. He was out with his posse, ran into trouble intentionally, then waved a gun around. There are consequences for bad acting - and I AM glad that they are enforced. This isn't an injury on the football field or even the actions of a cokehead - though it would be nice to see someone actually place some blame on the cokehead for being addicted - this is a willful disregard for the lives of a substantial number of people.

Taylor has everything in front of him. He can make more money in a year than I will in my entire lifetime, he can make that money doing something he loves, and he'll be working part time to do it. Does he take that amazing opportunity to seperate himself from bad actors & establish a safe & comfortable life for himself and potentially his family for generations to come? No, he goes out with his homies and places himself - note, place himself - into an altercation where he figured the best solution was to wave a loaded weapon around at people.

He deserves to go away. He doesn't belong in mainstream society. He brought this upon himself despite an unbelievable opportunity to extracate himself from this type of life. He has only himself to blame.

When a punk like this, whether they make $20,000 a year or $2,000,000 a year, gets removed from society, you're damn right I'm cheering.

 

[fatness]

It is also my understanding that Taylor, besides pointing a loaded weapon at people, acted specifically to escalate the confrontation by leaving the scene of the alleged theft originally & then coming back 10 minutes later with his pack of homeboys - after which a melee began, and which finally ended with Taylor's residence & vehicle being riddled with gunfire. It is further my understanding that the DA's office has refused to drop the case or bargain down after a 3rd credible witness offered evidence that Taylor did indeed perform the acts that he has been charged with.

Please tell me where I'm factually wrong here.

 

[jurb26]

What I love best of all is that even after casting these stones which ricocheted back into their faces. These same folks are still offering their stellar haste to judgment w/o a 2nd thought of gather facts or letting things play their proper course.

 

[fatness]

From profootballtalk.com

'SKINS EXPECT A FINE ONLY FOR TAYLORA league source tells us that the Washington Redskins anticipate that safety Sean Taylor's punishment for violating the league's Personal Conduct Policy will be a fine, not a suspension. Under the CBA, the Commissioner has the ability to impose discipline on players who engage in off-field criminal conduct. Earlier this week, Taylor pleaded no contest to misdemeanor assault and misdemeanor battery as part of a resolution of charges that allowed him to avoid felony counts that carries a maximum of 45 years in prison.The team, we hear, is 90 percent certain that Taylor won't be suspended. We're also told that, even if Taylor is suspended, the Redskins won't try to recover any of the signing bonus money paid to the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft.

 

[fatness]

The Redskin season is officially doomed. First they had to cut all the veterans and will start 22 rookies due to Salary Cap Hell. Then Sean Taylor got sent to prison for life. And as if that wasn't enough to surmount, the finishing touch comes from a Cowboy's fan on a message board: Link

"Ha ha ha ha ha!!

That's the sounds of me laughing it up after a quickly reading of your sillynesses as defines in a post you filled up with so much unsmartly filled comments.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

First off you teams has no hopeless for the future. Ever hear of cap hell-- well its comeing to you for good but soon and rejoycing to follow from me when it gets time for it!!

Second you filled with all sorts of weaknessess not just at the QB positions. Too much weak for you to spen a lot of time in discusings on it but you knows I'm write and if you don't not know it for sure then this only proves how Deadskins are not filled with braininess but have heads filled with Elmers glue and feathers.

Third the oline for us is gonna get the turn arounding to greatness as Mr Bill is gonna ride em into the dirt during trainings time and then put the fear of God in em so bad that they will find playing in games and blockings folks as easy as eating spare ribs and fried chicken sandwiches wrapped around wonder bread at a picknickle party.

Forth even if things don't not work out at first we have got us our secret weapon of weapons-- MISTER JERRY JONES!! He won't not let things fall two pieces on a sinking ship going under with no life bnoats Titanic style. He'll make us some special secret tradings for unknown gangster style players with big buttoxes and a swagger of toughnesses on them that Mister Bill likes to work out with and get ready for them to be mean and nasty on and off the field.

So you bettr start up respecting and fearing on the "Boys because we gonna mash you little Deadskins into submiss and vomitings after the game from all the high scorings on you that we'll be doing next seasons!!

HA HA HA HA HA HAR HAR!! (The sounding of me laughing at you and your're pathetics.)"

 

[fatness]

Sean Taylor video , which will have to tide us over until the Minnesota game.

 

[redman]

The Redskin season is officially doomed. First they had to cut all the veterans and will start 22 rookies due to Salary Cap Hell. Then Sean Taylor got sent to prison for life. And as if that wasn't enough to surmount, the finishing touch comes from a Cowboy's fan on a message board: Link

"Ha ha ha ha ha!!

That's the sounds of me laughing it up after a quickly reading of your sillynesses as defines in a post you filled up with so much unsmartly filled comments.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

First off you teams has no hopeless for the future. Ever hear of cap hell-- well its comeing to you for good but soon and rejoycing to follow from me when it gets time for it!!

Second you filled with all sorts of weaknessess not just at the QB positions. Too much weak for you to spen a lot of time in discusings on it but you knows I'm write and if you don't not know it for sure then this only proves how Deadskins are not filled with braininess but have heads filled with Elmers glue and feathers.

Third the oline for us is gonna get the turn arounding to greatness as Mr Bill is gonna ride em into the dirt during trainings time and then put the fear of God in em so bad that they will find playing in games and blockings folks as easy as eating spare ribs and fried chicken sandwiches wrapped around wonder bread at a picknickle party.

Forth even if things don't not work out at first we have got us our secret weapon of weapons-- MISTER JERRY JONES!! He won't not let things fall two pieces on a sinking ship going under with no life bnoats Titanic style. He'll make us some special secret tradings for unknown gangster style players with big buttoxes and a swagger of toughnesses on them that Mister Bill likes to work out with and get ready for them to be mean and nasty on and off the field.

So you bettr start up respecting and fearing on the "Boys because we gonna mash you little Deadskins into submiss and vomitings after the game from all the high scorings on you that we'll be doing next seasons!!

HA HA HA HA HA HAR HAR!! (The sounding of me laughing at you and your're pathetics.)"

Bucky's going to learn about spell check next week. Grammar check's after that, but we should move slowly.

 

[redman]

Sean Taylor video , which will have to tide us over until the Minnesota game.

Your link doesn't work.

 

[fatness]

Thanks. Try it now.

 

[fatness]

Third the oline for us is gonna get the turn arounding to greatness as Mr Bill is gonna ride em into the dirt during trainings time and then put the fear of God in em so bad that they will find playing in games and blockings folks as easy as eating spare ribs and fried chicken sandwiches wrapped around wonder bread at a picknickle party.

I am afraid of the turn arounding to greatness.

 

[fatness]

A good Washington Times article

The Washington Redskins' full-squad minicamp starts today. Training camp is six weeks away and the season opener less than three months away. The offseason has been relatively tranquil even with the regular amount of free agent splurging and Sean Taylor drama. But several questions need to be answered, and this weekend could provide some clarity.

1. What happens at weak-side linebacker?

The competition is on hold for six weeks (until training camp). Rookie Rocky McIntosh had knee surgery on Wednesday, leaving the first-team snaps to Chris Clemons and Warrick Holdman. McIntosh could start in due time (late September, early October). Clemons is athletic, but never has played an every down role. Holdman had a measly 23 tackles and started seven games last year. Something to consider is that Holdman didn't play special teams last year. If he doesn't win the starting spot, does the team use a valuable roster spot on him?

2. Campbell or Collins as the No. 2 quarterback?

Starter Mark Brunell's broken finger will keep him out of minicamp, he turns 36 in September and struggled in the playoffs. That makes the back-up position even more important this year. How the Redskins hope this plays out: Jason Campbell performs well during the preseason and wins the No. 2 job, giving him more snaps during practice running the Redskins offense instead of the scout team. That's not a knock on Todd Collins inasmuch as it's important to get Campbell ready for a 2007 debut. If Campbell struggles during the preseason, the Redskins will be forced to make Collins the top back-up.



3. Which receiver should be nervous?

The Redskins have a glut of receivers and Taylor Jacobs is on thin ice. Santana Moss and Brandon Lloyd are the starters and Antwaan Randle El and David Patten will also see plenty of time in three- and four-wide receiver formations. That leaves one more roster spot. James Thrash gets the edge over Jacobs because he's a more reliable receiver, plays special teams and is a JGG (Joe Gibbs Guy). Jacobs and Jimmy Farris are likely being kept around for insurance in case of injury.



4. How many starting jobs are actually open?

On offense, none, unless Patten or Randle El have better preseasons than Lloyd. The offensive line and backfield remain intact. On defense, Gregg Williams will say there are 11 jobs open because he hates the 'S' word. But the only "front line" position open is weak-side linebacker. The defensive line is solidified with Andre Carter and the secondary is set with Carlos Rogers joining the lineup full-time and Adam Archuleta coming from St. Louis. On special teams, both the kicking and punting jobs could be up for grabs.



5. How concerning should the injury situation be?

It should be a concern. Brunell is expected to be ready for training camp, but he's had calf, hamstring and knee problems during his two seasons with the Redskins. McIntosh's surgery has been described as minor. And Randy Thomas (leg), Casey Rabach (shoulder, leg), Chris Samuels (knee), Lemar Marshall (shoulder) and Renaldo Wynn (arm) are either fully recovered or on the right track. Rabach and reserves Tyson Walter and Nic Clemons will be limited this weekend. But especially on the offensive line and at cornerback, one long-term injury could be disastrous.

 

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Washington Post

Washington Redskins quarterback Mark Brunell will have the splint removed from his left index finger on Monday. Brunell fractured his finger three weeks ago.

"It's getting better, and luckily this thing comes off in three days," Brunell said yesterday. "I'm looking forward to having the opportunity to work with the new receivers. Missing this is no fun.".................

...............Right guard Randy Thomas, who broke his leg last December against Dallas, took part in more drills than Gibbs had expected. . . . Right tackle Jon Jansen, who underwent offseason surgery on his right thumb, participated in drills yesterday and will continue to wear some form of protective brace

 

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Redskins.com

Randy Thomas and Renaldo Wynn both participated in Friday's mini-camp practice, a positive sign as they return to action following injuries late last season.

Thomas suffered a fractured fibula in Week 15 last season, while Wynn suffered a fractured forearm in a playoff game. Both had participated in Organized Team Activity practices in recent weeks, but team officials had targeted mini-camp as a barometer of their progress.

"I'm ahead of schedule," Thomas said when asked of his rehab. "I'm not 100 percent, but by the time training camp comes around and we get to go against the Vikings [in the season opener], I'll be ready.".............................................

...............................Right tackle Jon Jansen and center Casey Rabach were both limited in work with the offensive line, head coach Joe Gibbs said. Jansen continues to recover from off-season surgery on his thumb. Rabach had a skin graft recently to help repair an ankle injury.

"We won't have a problem with Jon and Casey being ready [for training camp]," Gibbs said. "Casey is healing up real well. He wanted to do some things. Our problem is that he is real tender there where he had the [skin graft]. ......................

.....................Offensive lineman Tyson Walter, signed by the Redskins last March, sat out practice due to a high ankle sprain. Walter sustained the injury in May during an OTA practice, team officials said.

Defensive end Nic Clemons had minor arthroscopic knee surgery two weeks ago and was limited in Friday's practice, team officials said. Clemons was able to walk through some drills with his line-mates, but he watched the rest of the practice from the sidelines.

Rookie linebacker Roger McIntosh was not at Redskins Park on Friday, following arthroscopic knee surgery earlier in the week. He was expected to be back at Redskins Park on Saturday.

McIntosh, Walter and Clemons are expected to be at full health by the start of training camp.

 

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Offensive line depth for the Redskins was a problem last year, and they know it could be a problem again this year. There's an article on the subject in the Washington Times. Basically they're trying to train younger players to play multiple line positions, rather than rely on aging veterans like Ray Brown and Cory Raymer.

Link

Joe Bugel wants to avoid what happened in last year's playoff game at Seattle. Already without right guard Randy Thomas (broken leg in Game 14), the Washington Redskins' offensive line became more depleted when Ray Brown was injured in the second half. Cory Raymer, a back-up center who hadn't played guard in years, was forced into action. To no surprise, he struggled. "A disaster," said Bugel, the Redskins' offensive line guru, of the situation.

To prevent that kind of situation this season, the Redskins -- without signing a name free agent or using multiple draft picks -- went about reshaping the line's depth. They hope the end result is more youth, versatility and production if called upon.

As the Redskins wrap up minicamp today and break until training camp on July 31, Bugel has little concern about his starters: right tackle Jon Jansen, right guard Thomas, center Casey Rabach, left guard Derrick Dockery and left tackle Chris Samuels. Only Thomas didn't play in all 18 games last season. But after the front-line players, Bugel has questions. "Depth is a big concern for us right now," he said. "But we have some young kids that have to come to the forefront. It's extremely important."

The only holdover reserve who was active for most of last season is third-year tackle Jim Molinaro. Out are Ray Brown, 44 (retired) and Raymer, 33 (released). Molinaro and nine other players are competing for precious few roster spots. None are older than 28, most can play more than one position and few have any starting experience. "We went with the youth movement this year," Rabach said. "There are a lot of talented guys out here and guys who can play multiple positions. In the long run, it can only help us."

Throughout last year, the Redskins kept nine offensive lineman on the 53-man roster. "We had depth to a certain point last year," Jansen said. "Randy went down and Ray played well when he came. But for us, it's a matter of developing guys that come in and play two to three positions." Molinaro is entering his third year with the Redskins but has seen minimal action aside from special teams. He is working at both tackle positions. "I'm a lot more confident in my techniques and the guys on the first team have a lot more confidence in me," he said. "I'm ready to go in and show them what I can do. "It's always tough when you're not in there, especially when you played in college. But the coaches and players are always telling me that I have to keep working and developing and I'll get a chance. ... It's always put up time in the NFL. But this is a huge opportunity in my career." Said Bugel: "When you get into your third year, it's time to play, maybe not as a starter, but as a sixth guy or swing man." Molinaro has worked with the first team because Jansen's thumb surgery has him doing limited work.

In Rabach's stead (shoulder and leg injuries), Mike Pucillo is playing center. Pucillo has the most experience of the reserves. He started 12 games for Buffalo in 2003 and six games for Cleveland last year. He can play guard and center. Pucillo is expected to compete against rookie free agent Jasper Harvey of San Diego State.

The guard-tackle group includes Ike Ndukwe (who can play both) and Tyson Walter, who has played in 40 games at tackle, but has been sidelined by a high ankle sprain this month. The group is rounded out by Jonta Woodard, Kili Lefotu, Jim Jones, Jon Alston and Daniel Martz.

The starters will get their work during practice in August, but much of Bugel's decisions will be based on how the reserves perform in the preseason games. "It will come down to the end of training camp," Bugel said. "It's an ongoing situation. You have to pick it up from scratch every year."

Depth is important for the Redskins because Samuels has a history of minor knee problems, Thomas is coming back from a fractured leg, Rabach from shoulder surgery and a leg injury and Jansen played the first half of last season with two broken thumbs.

 

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I'm sad to say that I have no Redskin football information at all to offer tonight. Nothing.

Just Photoshopped Pictures of Eli Manning Drunk

like this

and this

and this one

 

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Sean Taylor is getting sued by one of the guys in the supposed fight over the stolen ATV last June.

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was sued by a man who said the NFL player brandished a gun and repeatedly hit him during a fight last June.

Ryan Hill filed the suit on June 27 in Miami Dade Circuit Court and is seeking $15,000 in damages from Taylor.

The lawsuit states that Hill was bruised, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight.

 

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Redskin quotes from NFL films. Link

"Don't be lookin over here at me! You dont know me!"

- Marcus Washington

"A lotta people dont play football the way the Washington Redskins play football!"

- Marcus Washington

"You dont need thumbs to play this game"

- Jon Jansen

"To win we gotta be dangerous. Danger on 3!"

- Pierson

Best one:

My favorite is a clip of Portis from the TB playoff game. After laying a block on linebacker Shelton Quarles, which knocked him out before he hit the ground, Portis was quoted as saying,"Did you see that? He was ASLEEP!"

 

[nittanylion]

You have to wonder who's putting Ryan Hill up to this. He's surely somebody's pawn. From what I understand, none of those fellas involved in the prosecution side of the criminal case were anywhere near clean as a whistle. I can't imagine too many judges are going to take this civil claim very seriously once they examine the character of the fella pressing the charges...

 

[thayman]

no news....but has anyone noticed that when ARE gets mentioned in a Ben Roth thread it's "Do you think Big Ben can overcome the loss of ARE?" But in a WASH thread you hear more of "ARE is a poor #3 at best?"

Or is it just me? Am I too sensitive??

 

[redman]

no news....but has anyone noticed that when ARE gets mentioned in a Ben Roth thread it's "Do you think Big Ben can overcome the loss of ARE?" But in a WASH thread you hear more of "ARE is a poor #3 at best?"

Or is it just me? Am I too sensitive??

I've noticed that too as a trend. I attribute it to the fact that the discussion about Ben tends to be qualitative, meaning people who watched Ben play are wondering aloud what he'll do to replace that important and versatile option in the passing game. The people who comment on the 'Skins signing IMHO tend to make it a quanititative discussion focusing on ARE's admittedly modest receiving stats, particularly from last year. The reason I don't worry about it as a 'Skins fan is that ARE played for the most conservative passing team (as measured by pass-run ratio) in the last 15 years, and was NOT the possession WR in a ball-control offense.

I have no doubt that Al Saunders will find ways to use him that Pittsburgh didn't utilize. I've already predicted that he'll exceed his career best numbers.

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

http://new.petitiononline.com/artmonk/petition-sign.html

Its time to get MONK in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Nine guys who could influence the '06 season

6. Mark Brunell, quarterback, Redskins

In the first half of the 2005 season, the Redskins lefty was among the NFL's more efficient quarterbacks. In the second half of the season, he was an eye sore. Brunell's play down the stretch was rather abysmal.

And the oft-injured quarterback missed a portion of mini-camp in 2006 after fracturing a finger on his throwing hand.

Washington is loaded with offensive talent after adding Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randle El to Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley, and a sturdy starting five on the offensive line. And the most significant pickup Washington made this off-season was bringing Al Saunders on board to calls plays.

If Brunell can execute the Saunders playbook, the Redskins are a Super Bowl threat. If he can't keep himself on the field, they aren't a playoff team. (For the record, I love Jason Campbell's upside, but he might have to go through some growing pains if forced to play).

I agree the Redskins will be hurt overall if their starting QB gets hurt too much to perform well. But how are they different from most other teams, like those in the NFC East? What happens if Bledsoe, McNabb, or Eli go down? Same thing.I think the reason this is brought up so much more about the Redskins ----- the "if the starting QB is hurt the Redskins are sunk" talk ---- is that it's hard to look at the Redskins and find glaring weaknesses. If that is their biggest weakness, they're looking in far better shape than at the beginning of last season. Most teams have this weakness, and some have many other weaknesses which keeps "if the starting QB gets hurt" from being their biggest one.

 

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From a Cowboys site.

Q: With everyone in the NFC East appearing to be better on paper this year, who do you see as being the early favorite to win the division? --- Roger

Mosley: I would take the Redskins to win the division, and then put the Cowboys next. I'm not saying Washington had the greatest off-season ever, but it did fill some serious needs. But honestly, the Giants are right there. I could see 11-5, 10-6, 9-7 records from the top three teams. They're going to annihilate each other.

 

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Websites of various Redskin players and coaches, past and present: Link

I sure wish I could dig up a link to that old commercial Joe Jacoby did for some bigscreen TV. Worst commercial ever.

 

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Article by Rich Tandler about Portis getting more receptions this year, something I'd like to see happen.

One facet of the offense that we’re likely to see change this year is the number of passes thrown to running backs. Under Al Saunders’ coaching last year, the Chiefs’ Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes combined to catch 51 very productive passes for 540 yards. One of Holmes catches, as we all remember, was on a screen pass that went for 60 yards and the winning touchdown for Kansas City in their Week 5 victory over Washington.

When Homes was Saunders’ prime back from 2001-2003, he caught 62, 70, and 74 passes so 2005 wasn’t some kind of fluke in regards to the number of balls thrown to the tailback.

Clinton Portis caught just 30 passes for a very pedestrian 7.2-yard average per in 2005. It wasn’t that Joe Gibbs didn’t ever want to throw short; it’s just that the screens went to Santana Moss most of the time. Portis’ catches came on swing and safety valve passes. He rarely had the luxury of having any blockers out in front of him; when he made significant yardage it generally was because he made someone miss. The thought of Portis with the ball in space with Randy Thomas or Derrick Dockery in front of him has to have entered Saunders’ mind frequently in the past few months.

Add to that Saunders’ expressed desire to get Ladell Betts more involved in the offense and the fact that Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd and Antwaan Randle El have the capability of drawing enough attention from defenders to create some significant space in the underneath portion of the field and passing to Portis and Betts is a very attractive option. We could very well see Portis’ carries drop by 25 or 30 but have his overall productivity increase by him catching a couple of dozen more passes for a 12-yard average.

 

[nittanylion]

Websites of various Redskin players and coaches, past and present: Link

I sure wish I could dig up a link to that old commercial Joe Jacoby did for some bigscreen TV. Worst commercial ever.

Theater Vision!!! With Jacoby and Mark May...oh, that WAS bad...low-budget bad.

Nice trip down memory lane, that.