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Well, ok if you look at it that way I'd prefer Lynch+CJ over either one+DJ right now. I could probably turn around and trade Lynch for a better WR then Jax if I was inclined to bolster WR at the expense of RB.benson_will_lead_the_way said:
True so how much more to get it done?
No, he does have some usable players but I'm not really looking to move below 1.03 in this draft, at least at this point in the process. Maybe after combines/pro days or after the NFL draft, I might see the gap between 1.01 and 1.04 narrow enough to be workable.To make me change my mind, the trade would really have to knock my socks off. Not sure I want to be in the business of making those kinds of offers and since I am pretty happy to stay put, I don't see myself taking the role of putting something on the table.waiver wire said:i would have rejected this out right as wellthis deal does nothing to help your teamJust received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.
I earned the 1.01 in a ZF league
Decided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks.
Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
i would have at least taken a second to look at his roster to see if i could counter if i could have gotten a top player back
if there wasn't a player i wanted then there is no chance that a deal could get done
Well I can give an answer for me, but that does no good when dealing with this owner. I personally love (probably too much) my draft picks and very young, high-upside players (guys in NFL year 1, 2, 3). So, if I were your trading partner in this scenario, I would not be up for a DJax deal. The actual owner may well think differently. Most people do. Depending on where your 2007 #1 is, that plus your 2008 #1 might well get you the 1.03 and maybe a #2 in 07 or 08 from me, just as a rough guide without knowing anything about the makeup or philosophy of either squad.I'd say that, even though I don't like DJax for 1.03, it's not a laughable offer and it's decent starting point for negotiations. Have you had any prelim talks with the guy to see if he'd be up for making a trade, and what he'd be looking for in return? That is probably the way I'd begin. Let him tell you vs you putting something together that you think might work.
I figured it was worth a shot. I have eight picks, but my team is pretty deep, so I don't need all those picks and am willing to unload some picks to move up. If 2.04 instead of 2.10 makes a difference, I have that out there too.I really want to move out of 1.04, but it is such a horrible pick to have this year. Nobody wants to trade up to it, nobody wants to trade down to it. There are the three obvious top picks, then about 5-6 players that are of about equal value.Thought about it briefly, but with the dropoff between 1.01 and 1.04 coupled with the seemingly weak overall depth in this draft, it's going to be tough to make something work. I don't see much value at all in late 2nd rounders and later this year. I'd probably need something very substantial in 2008 to feel good about dropping down past 1.03 as things sit right now. I will keep you in mind as an interested party and maybe closer to/after the NFL draft, we can revisit and see if a mutually-agreeable deal can be reached.I thought it was at least worth a counter. :IBTL:Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
Value of the 1.04 will go up after the draft. One of the other runningbacks will land in a favorable situation. Still going to need a lot more to move up to the 1.01 though.I figured it was worth a shot. I have eight picks, but my team is pretty deep, so I don't need all those picks and am willing to unload some picks to move up. If 2.04 instead of 2.10 makes a difference, I have that out there too.I really want to move out of 1.04, but it is such a horrible pick to have this year. Nobody wants to trade up to it, nobody wants to trade down to it. There are the three obvious top picks, then about 5-6 players that are of about equal value.Thought about it briefly, but with the dropoff between 1.01 and 1.04 coupled with the seemingly weak overall depth in this draft, it's going to be tough to make something work. I don't see much value at all in late 2nd rounders and later this year. I'd probably need something very substantial in 2008 to feel good about dropping down past 1.03 as things sit right now. I will keep you in mind as an interested party and maybe closer to/after the NFL draft, we can revisit and see if a mutually-agreeable deal can be reached.I thought it was at least worth a counter.Just received and quickly declined this offer for the 1.01:1.04/2.10/4.04Not sure if this is useful to anyone but here goes.I earned the 1.01 in a ZF leagueDecided I'd see if the AD hype is enough to coax some good value out of the guys at 1.02 or 1.03 in a move-down scenario. Shot off a general email asking if either had any willingness to start trade talks. Both pretty quickly said they'd be happy with whoever was there for them at their current pick and had no interest in paying to move up.
I'm a huge AD fan, but I think I would have taken that.
well I looked at westy's career numbers and looks as though he had a career year(or maybe was just healthy all year). I just dont think he can duplicate those numbers or surpass them. Career high tds and carrys. Thats the only reason.
I'm shocked at the number of people who willingly set their team back 2 years, at least.In non-ppr, Bush/Maroney/DeW/Addai/White were iffy starters most of the year (some early, some late, some middle). You just don't see many rookie RBs come in, and start in year one. And if they do start, produce.So AD probably won't be a solid RB1/RB2 until 2008. At best.And he probably won't start tearing up the league until year 3-4. For that, you're giving up a top 5 PPR RB. AD might never have a good as year as Westy had last year. He might never have a good as year as Westy has this year. You only have to win your league once every 10-12 years (depending on league size obviously) to break even. Unless you enjoy paying your friends to play FF with you. So there's nothing wrong with going for the championship. Lots of people around here would trade their entire roster for 2006/2007 rookies. Build a real dynasty they say! Lets pay my friends for 4 years while 50% of my "future studs" bust. Without question, I'd cash in on the rookie pick hype. Wait until the draft gets close. Let ESPN/NFLN hype AD/Lynch/CJ to no end. Then when a guy will toss you Westy+Vjack+Delhomme, you can laugh all the way to the playoffs. Earlier in this thread someone offered Boldin for 1.03. *lol* Proven 90+ catch guy, elite WR, young, solid, reliable, for a rookie thats no better then 50/50. You would not believe the hype Charles Rogers got. I saw him taken at 1.02 in one league, 1.03 in various others. Ron Dayne. Oh man people ate themselves up some Dayne. William Green was 1.01 in a number of leagues. Lelie? Duckett? Remember when Michael Clayton was a lock for 80/1000/8 for the next 8 years? BMW? Uh yah that meant BIG Mike Williams. Oh how that nickname went awry. Oh Chris Perry. The talent! He oozes it! If only... If only... No one is a lock. People bust alllll the time.If you can get elite talent (top 5-10 RB top 5-10WR) for a roll of the dice, you take that allll day. Don’t play for 2009 unless you have to. Don’t throw away a stud for a college highlight reel on youtube.
Rant... but I like it!
CJ is likely going to end up with the Bucs or Browns - not exactly ideal situations. TB would be ok, but what about the QB situation? I'd rather have DJax if I wanted to win this year.
He's nuts for declining that offer. Holt alone is worth more than the 1.03.I currently own the 1.01 & 1.02 in a 16-team IDP dynasty rookie draft ("Papa Bear" in my sig)I offered:Chester Taylor RB MINMewelde Moore RB MINCiatrick Fason RB MINfor:Musa Smith RB BAL2007 1.03It was declined.
Whatever! Holt's knees are getting worn and Taylor wont have a long shelf life in Minny. I turned it down and am still happy with the decisionfruity pebbles said:He's nuts for declining that offer. Holt alone is worth more than the 1.03.Athletic Supporter said:I currently own the 1.01 & 1.02 in a 16-team IDP dynasty rookie draft ("Papa Bear" in my sig)I offered:Chester Taylor RB MINMewelde Moore RB MINCiatrick Fason RB MINfor:Musa Smith RB BAL2007 1.03It was declined.
Holt's a top 5 WR who had a minor cleanup of one of his knees. Happens all the time. Glad you're happy with it though.Whatever! Holt's knees are getting worn and Taylor wont have a long shelf life in Minny. I turned it down and am still happy with the decisionfruity pebbles said:He's nuts for declining that offer. Holt alone is worth more than the 1.03.Athletic Supporter said:I currently own the 1.01 & 1.02 in a 16-team IDP dynasty rookie draft ("Papa Bear" in my sig)I offered:Chester Taylor RB MINMewelde Moore RB MINCiatrick Fason RB MINfor:Musa Smith RB BAL2007 1.03It was declined.
I agree for a team in "win now" mode, the trade looks a lot better. But otherwise, if you are 2+ years out for competitiveness, I'm not sure how much stock should be put in NFL team situations as they are right now. Who is to say that CJ won't help lead his new team to an Arizona-like status? Lots of things can change between now and opening kickoff 2009.cstu said:
Whatever! Holt's knees are getting worn and Taylor wont have a long shelf life in Minny. I turned it down and am still happy with the decisionfruity pebbles said:He's nuts for declining that offer. Holt alone is worth more than the 1.03.Athletic Supporter said:I currently own the 1.01 & 1.02 in a 16-team IDP dynasty rookie draft ("Papa Bear" in my sig)I offered:Chester Taylor RB MINMewelde Moore RB MINCiatrick Fason RB MINfor:Musa Smith RB BAL2007 1.03It was declined.Shortly afterwards another team aquired the pick.Trade details:Mark Anderson DE CHI2007 1.03for:Julius Peppers DE CAR2007 1.142008 1stSo I approach the new owner of the 1.03 with a verbal offer of:Chester Taylor RB MINMewelde Moore RB MINCiatrick Fason RB MINTorry Holt WR STLfor:2007 1.03He declined!
P.S. I must admit I'm not so sure I would've actually gone through with this trade, waaaay too much IMO!
not bad
Seems like a fair deal for both teams.
Thats not too bad either. Can I assume you are in a win now mode?
Bump for the after combine madness.
wow
I offered 1.4, 2.4, and 4.4 for 1.3. Rejected.I was offered 1.3 for Roy Williams. Rejected.I offered Terrell Owens for 1.3. Rejected (on grounds that he is an Eagles fan).I offered 1.4 plus Hank Baskett for 1.3. Rejected.
Just to add validity to your point: The guy in my dynasty league that year sent the 1.01 pick for Marvin Harrison. The guy who traded for the 1.01 draft Chuck Rogers. We are from MI, so there was some homerism. Nevertheless, that one will be remembered.
WoW OZ* I hate to say it but I think you got whooped in that deal.. I bet the guy would have given a little more
That amazes me. I would not give up MJD for 1.01 personally. Especially in a PPR.
Many are really high on Peterson.
