***The Super Bowl XLV Thread*** - Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh (2 Viewers)

[jurrassic]

The Steelers are a good team but with what the Packers have overcome with injuries, the fact they beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the NFC (which has happened rarely if ever), that they haven't trailed by more than 7 points all year (I believe they are only the 5th team all time to do that), etc. It's tough to bet against them. Combine that with he fact that the Steelers have only played two other teams in the top 10 in passing offense all year (Patriots and Saints) and they lost both games, losing them by being spread out, as a Packer fan I feel optimistic. This team just keeps getting it done. They should copy the Patriot's game plan and try and take advantage of an average Steeler secondary.

 

[poopdawg]

The Steelers are a good team but with what the Packers have overcome with injuries, the fact they beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the NFC (which has happened rarely if ever), that they haven't trailed by more than 7 points all year (I believe they are only the 5th team all time to do that), etc. It's tough to bet against them. Combine that with he fact that the Steelers have only played two other teams in the top 10 in passing offense all year (Patriots and Saints) and they lost both games, losing them by being spread out, as a Packer fan I feel optimistic. This team just keeps getting it done. They should copy the Patriot's game plan and try and take advantage of an average Steeler secondary.

First of all the Steelers were the last 6 seed to make the SB (also taking down the 1 2 and 3 seeds). Took down the Bengals, Colts, and the Broncos. Secondly I have the utmost respect for the Packers in this one. It is definitely a great game for the NFL. I have no idea what I meant by this post other than the fact that I am druuuuuuuunk......

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.

Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

 

[Gopher State]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

 

[cr8f]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

 

[CrossEyed]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

We're waiting for the parade.

 

[cr8f]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

We're waiting for the parade.

Good idea. You could show the 2 lombardi trophies while the Packers parade has the current one.

 

[Steelfan7]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.

Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

We're waiting for the parade.

Good idea. You could show the 2 lombardi trophies while the Packers parade has the current one.

Correction 6 soon to be 7 after next Sunday.

 

[sho nuff]

Urlacher to Packers: I hope you lose By Don Walker of the Journal SentinelJan. 28, 2011 Chicago Bears lineback Brian Urlacher says he still respects the Green Bay Packers, but that doesn't mean he wants them to win the Super Bowl.Urlacher told a Chicago radio station that he would not root for them."Hell no I'm not rooting for the Packers in the Super Bowl," he said.

Thats ok, we won't be cheering for him in the Pro Bowl.

 

[Reepicheep]

Interesting post by Kevin Seifert about the Packer's offensive output under Rodgers in 12 dome games since he took over as starter. Obviously the teams the Packers played against were a factor there as well, but apparently Rodgers and Jennings are all smiles about playing on the turf in Dallas.

[*]The Packers have averaged 31.8 points in those 12 games. That figure jumps to 33.7 if you discard a 3-point performance this season in Week 14 at Detroit's Ford Field, where Rodgers departed in the second quarter after suffering a concussion.

[*]They have exceeded 40 points in both of their indoor postseason games, scoring 45 points last year against the Arizona Cardinals and 48 earlier this month against the Atlanta Falcons.

[*]Rodgers has thrown 26 touchdowns against five interceptions in those 12 games en route to a 111.1 passer rating.

[*]Jennings has at least 100 receiving yards in seven of the 12 games, including three of the four in 201

 

[Jake22]

Interesting post by Kevin Seifert about the Packer's offensive output under Rodgers in 12 dome games since he took over as starter. Obviously the teams the Packers played against were a factor there as well, but apparently Rodgers and Jennings are all smiles about playing on the turf in Dallas.

Seems like GB thinks they already won this game since they're favored and playing indoors...

 

[Reepicheep]

Seems like GB thinks they already won this game since they're favored and playing indoors...

Thank you Dr. Jake for that insightful bit of psychoanalysis.

 

[cr8f]

Interesting post by Kevin Seifert about the Packer's offensive output under Rodgers in 12 dome games since he took over as starter. Obviously the teams the Packers played against were a factor there as well, but apparently Rodgers and Jennings are all smiles about playing on the turf in Dallas.

[*]The Packers have averaged 31.8 points in those 12 games. That figure jumps to 33.7 if you discard a 3-point performance this season in Week 14 at Detroit's Ford Field, where Rodgers departed in the second quarter after suffering a concussion.

[*]They have exceeded 40 points in both of their indoor postseason games, scoring 45 points last year against the Arizona Cardinals and 48 earlier this month against the Atlanta Falcons.

[*]Rodgers has thrown 26 touchdowns against five interceptions in those 12 games en route to a 111.1 passer rating.

[*]Jennings has at least 100 receiving yards in seven of the 12 games, including three of the four in 201

They still have that dumb hole in the roof (so it could snow),. but after Soldier Field I'd be happy with smooth turf too.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Remember when the Rams, already a big favorite, had a big advantage over the Patriots in SB 36 because it was being played indoors in New Orleans? Yeah.

 

[Reepicheep]

They still have that dumb hole in the roof (so it could snow),. but after Soldier Field I'd be happy with smooth turf too.

The lid will be shut for the Super Bowl.

Remember when the Rams, already a big favorite, had a big advantage over the Patriots in SB 36 because it was being played indoors in New Orleans? Yeah.

Stating a certain factor works to one team's advantage is not the same as saying the team will win, I guess I thought that would go without saying.

 

[Jake22]

Seems like GB thinks they already won this game since they're favored and playing indoors...

Thank you Dr. Jake for that insightful bit of psychoanalysis.

YW

 

[The Jerk]

The Steelers are a good team but with what the Packers have overcome with injuries, the fact they beat the 1, 2, and 3 seeds in the NFC (which has happened rarely if ever), that they haven't trailed by more than 7 points all year (I believe they are only the 5th team all time to do that), etc. It's tough to bet against them. Combine that with he fact that the Steelers have only played two other teams in the top 10 in passing offense all year (Patriots and Saints) and they lost both games, losing them by being spread out, as a Packer fan I feel optimistic. This team just keeps getting it done. They should copy the Patriot's game plan and try and take advantage of an average Steeler secondary.

Interesting thoughts.By seeding, the Packers would have had the second toughest road to a championship, defeating 1, 2, 3 in their conference and a 2 in the SB. The Steelers defeated 1, 2, 3 in their conference and a 1 in the SB in the 2005 season.

For what it's worth, as impressive as both the 2005 Steelers and 2010 Packers were in just getting to the SB, what the Jets nearly accomplished would have trumped both of them. Not only would the Jets have matched the 1, 2, and 3 seed victories, but they would have done so against teams that had combined to make the previous 7 Super Bowls from the AFC, each of whom had won at least one of them. In my opinion, that far surpasses the actual competition (not the seeds) faced by GB and PITT. Alas, it wasn't to be for the Jets.

As to the Patriots and Saints spreading out the Steelers...

the Patriots dominated the Steelers, in a 39-26 game that wasn't nearly that close. The Patriots led 23-3 after the 3rd quarter. Nothing more needs to be said.

Conversely, the Saints led the Steelers 6-3 entering the fourth quarter. The Steelers offense was more responsible for that loss than the secondary of the Steelers.

As far as how "average" the Steelers secondary is, the Steelers passing defensive stats are a function mostly of being virtually impenetrable on the ground and being ahead of its opponents in most contests. When broken down in terms of average passing yards per pass attempt, the Steelers -- at least according to this web site: http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/oppon...er-pass-attempt -- are actually #1 in the NFL. Green Bay is #3, by the way. These statistics apparently include playoff games by each team.

So while it's very possible for Green Bay to be successful against the Steelers passing defense, and I believe the Packers are deserved favorites in this game, it's not accurate to depict the Steelers secondary as being average. It is accurate to suggest the secondary is the weakest part of the Steelers defense, but the secondary is only weak in comparison to the rest of the Steelers defense. I fully expect the Packers to attempt to throw to win, but I don't see that as anything novel either to the Packers offense or the Steelers defense.

 

[cr8f]

I don't think GB deserves to be favored and the question I have are they really? Bookies don't decide this - they only try and cover the spreads so they make money from both sides.

Polamalu's injury - is it healed? He has missed a lot of tackles and doesn't seem able to stop quickly or push off as he usually can.

The Packers will probably throw to set up a little running, much like the Patriots did earlier. Few teams 4th corner can cover James Jones or Jordy Nelson.

Either of those two could be MVP if Green Bay does win. Mendenhall or Roethisberger could too though.

 

[Sabertooth]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

 

[Boom Switch]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

Mike Wallace has scored me a whopping 3 points in 2 games so far in the playoffs. It would be nice if Ben could hit this clown for a TD.

 

[poopdawg]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

Mike Wallace has scored me a whopping 3 points in 2 games so far in the playoffs. It would be nice if Ben could hit this clown for a TD.

Mikey will get his. I have to go back and check but I don't think Wallace was held to three consecurive weeks without getting 15+ points. I can feel a big Wallace play coming in this one. I love what Sanders and Brown can do but I feel we have a big day comng from Mikey.......

 

[cr8f]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

Not against the Saints or Pats. You don't do too well against passing teams so we'll see.

 

[Godsbrother]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

Not against the Saints or Pats. You don't do too well against passing teams so we'll see.

Sabertooth is a Packers fan...

 

[cr8f]

Roethlisberger is the great equalizer here. He just finds ways to win games.

Not against the Saints or Pats. You don't do too well against passing teams so we'll see.

Sabertooth is a Packers fan...

Missed that. I tend to favor the Steelers too because they have experience but hope Green Bay wins. I really want a good game.

 

[3C's]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.

Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

BIG turnout for the rally before the Bears game. Although rally organizers originally planned to keep streets open to traffic, police closed Walnut Street to make room for the boisterous crowd of about 500 people. http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.co...G0101/110121133

Official Steelers Facebook has 1.7 million fans. Official Packers FB has < 1 million.

 

[Godsbrother]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.

Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

The Steelers don't charge admission to their practices that are open to the public.

 

[sho nuff]

Yeah I am gonna get real drunk later with my Steelers fan girlfriend.

Last time the Packers were in a Super Bowl I had never been drunk which you know really puts things in perspective.

which means who have not been drunk since you were 10. Plus you need a few drinks after what the Packers do to the steelers. GO PACK GO

The Steelers had a team rally and got 18,000 fans. That's it? The Packers sell out for practices at Lambeau.

The Steelers don't charge admission to their practices that are open to the public.

The Packers practices are open to the public (and there are large crowds for that too).He is referring to the family night scrimmage they hold at Lambeau.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I hope the game features no injuries. Any injury to the Steelers O-line or to the Packers L.B.'s could have either unit so thin as to be near complete disarray.

 

[CrossEyed]

I hope the game features no injuries. Any injury to the Steelers O-line or to the Packers L.B.'s could have either unit so thin as to be near complete disarray.

Given these two teams' seasons, I think an injury-free SB is a near impossibility.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I hope the game features no injuries. Any injury to the Steelers O-line or to the Packers L.B.'s could have either unit so thin as to be near complete disarray.

Given these two teams' seasons, I think an injury-free SB is a near impossibility.

What I don't want is for Aaron Rodgers to suffer another concussion on a nasty Harrison hit and not finish the game. I want to beat their best and I don't want any excuses from the Steelers-haters.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

James Harrison may actually cause an injury just answering questions at media day. I believe he should have his checkbook handy.

 

[CrossEyed]

James Harrison may actually cause an injury just answering questions at media day. I believe he should have his checkbook handy.

Dude is seriously intense.Interesting James Harrison trivia. He almost quit football in 2004 to become a veterinarian, something he still plans to do after football.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

James Harrison may actually cause an injury just answering questions at media day. I believe he should have his checkbook handy.

Dude is seriously intense.Interesting James Harrison trivia. He almost quit football in 2004 to become a veterinarian, something he still plans to do after football.

I'd love him were he on my team.

 

[CrossEyed]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?

The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

I missed this. Do you have a quick link?

 

[The Westin]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

Agreed, the commisioner of all people, too? I can't stand Goodell.On another note, I've lost all respect for sports media today, they're just awful and I blame ESPN. First the stupid Packers photo, now this? Who cares. Just talk football. NFL Network is even unbearable now that Michael Irvin and Deon are on the same show. It's unwatchable

 

[CrossEyed]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?

The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

I missed this. Do you have a quick link?

Link

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?

The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

I missed this. Do you have a quick link?

Link

Thanks

 

[sho nuff]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

Yeah, dumb to answer those questions and go into that this week.Though, between he and King...not too surprising.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

Yeah, dumb to answer those questions and go into that this week.Though, between he and King...not too surprising.

I believe the SI interview was conducted a while ago. I'd blame SI for the convenient timing on this not Goodell.

 

[CrossEyed]

Why would Goodell make a comment right before the SB that none of Ben's teammates "went to his defense" when he interviewed them before the season started?The week of the SB is enough of a circus as it is, why contribute this bit of information so that Ben has to answer even more questions about it?

Yeah, dumb to answer those questions and go into that this week.Though, between he and King...not too surprising.

I believe the SI interview was conducted a while ago. I'd blame SI for the convenient timing on this not Goodell.

That may be a fair assessment, but what is Goodell doing sharing this kind of info with any reporter at any time? Seems completely inappropriate to me. And yes, I'd feel this way no matter who the player was.

 

[CrossEyed]

From Dale Lolley's blog

© The other big topic here was Peter King's quote in his Monday Morning Quarterback from commissioner Roger Goodell about Ben Roethlisberger.Goodell said he spoke to around two dozen Steelers about Roethlisberger this summer, but none of them would defend the QB.Of course, Goodell said it was mostly due to things such as Roethlisberger not signing jerseys for them or things like that.Defensive end Brett Keisel, one of Roethlisberger's best friends on the team, said he was asked about Roethlisberger by the commissioner and really didn't know what to say about the line of questioning.For his part, Roethlisberger was caught off guard by the whole thing, expressing some shock about the questions from reporters about the report following his media session.The Steelers were pretty much caught off guard by the whole thing and one does have to question the timing of it.

 

[sho nuff]

The Packers' charter was delayed for 2 hours as players, execs, and the flight crew waiting impatiently on star QB Aaron Rodgers. It seems Rodgers decided to sign every autograph requested from every fan who showed up. Said Rodgers, "each of these fans supports us in our quest for the Super Bowl and I owe them all the time I can give them prior to this big game. You never know when an internet site will be searching for videos." Rodgers was particularly touched by a young fan who came from Chicago. The lad was noticeably limping and suffered from type II diabetes. Rodgers claimed the boy wished to one day be a Super Bowl QB so he signed the jersey "JC, keep your chin up"Rodgers was busy pleasing the fans until head coach Mike McCarthy led him to his seat by his ear.

 

[cr8f]

James Harrison may actually cause an injury just answering questions at media day. I believe he should have his checkbook handy.

Don't tease me. I hope he has an in depth interview with Michael Irvin.

 

[CrossEyed]

The Packers' charter was delayed for 2 hours as players, execs, and the flight crew waiting impatiently on star QB Aaron Rodgers. It seems Rodgers decided to sign every autograph requested from every fan who showed up. Said Rodgers, "each of these fans supports us in our quest for the Super Bowl and I owe them all the time I can give them prior to this big game. You never know when an internet site will be searching for videos." Rodgers was particularly touched by a young fan who came from Chicago. The lad was noticeably limping and suffered from type II diabetes. Rodgers claimed the boy wished to one day be a Super Bowl QB so he signed the jersey "JC, keep your chin up"Rodgers was busy pleasing the fans until head coach Mike McCarthy led him to his seat by his ear.

 

[Sabertooth]

From Dale Lolley's blog

© The other big topic here was Peter King's quote in his Monday Morning Quarterback from commissioner Roger Goodell about Ben Roethlisberger.Goodell said he spoke to around two dozen Steelers about Roethlisberger this summer, but none of them would defend the QB.Of course, Goodell said it was mostly due to things such as Roethlisberger not signing jerseys for them or things like that.Defensive end Brett Keisel, one of Roethlisberger's best friends on the team, said he was asked about Roethlisberger by the commissioner and really didn't know what to say about the line of questioning.For his part, Roethlisberger was caught off guard by the whole thing, expressing some shock about the questions from reporters about the report following his media session.The Steelers were pretty much caught off guard by the whole thing and one does have to question the timing of it.

Good on the rest of the Steelers for not supporting Ben during his investigation of being a sexual predator. I wouldn't support him either. Obviously there was something to it even though he was never charged otherwise he would not have been suspended. To be fair, the Packers best defensive lineman from 2010 Johnny Jolly was suspended without a trial too. But he doesn't get to play. Did he ever have his trial?

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Sizzurp is not a crime.

 

[CrossEyed]

From Dale Lolley's blog

© The other big topic here was Peter King's quote in his Monday Morning Quarterback from commissioner Roger Goodell about Ben Roethlisberger.Goodell said he spoke to around two dozen Steelers about Roethlisberger this summer, but none of them would defend the QB.Of course, Goodell said it was mostly due to things such as Roethlisberger not signing jerseys for them or things like that.Defensive end Brett Keisel, one of Roethlisberger's best friends on the team, said he was asked about Roethlisberger by the commissioner and really didn't know what to say about the line of questioning.For his part, Roethlisberger was caught off guard by the whole thing, expressing some shock about the questions from reporters about the report following his media session.The Steelers were pretty much caught off guard by the whole thing and one does have to question the timing of it.

Good on the rest of the Steelers for not supporting Ben during his investigation of being a sexual predator. I wouldn't support him either. Obviously there was something to it even though he was never charged otherwise he would not have been suspended. To be fair, the Packers best defensive lineman from 2010 Johnny Jolly was suspended without a trial too. But he doesn't get to play. Did he ever have his trial?

Way to miss the point.

 

[Eric Stratton]

From Dale Lolley's blog

© The other big topic here was Peter King's quote in his Monday Morning Quarterback from commissioner Roger Goodell about Ben Roethlisberger.Goodell said he spoke to around two dozen Steelers about Roethlisberger this summer, but none of them would defend the QB.Of course, Goodell said it was mostly due to things such as Roethlisberger not signing jerseys for them or things like that.Defensive end Brett Keisel, one of Roethlisberger's best friends on the team, said he was asked about Roethlisberger by the commissioner and really didn't know what to say about the line of questioning.For his part, Roethlisberger was caught off guard by the whole thing, expressing some shock about the questions from reporters about the report following his media session.The Steelers were pretty much caught off guard by the whole thing and one does have to question the timing of it.

Good on the rest of the Steelers for not supporting Ben during his investigation of being a sexual predator. I wouldn't support him either. Obviously there was something to it even though he was never charged otherwise he would not have been suspended. To be fair, the Packers best defensive lineman from 2010 Johnny Jolly was suspended without a trial too. But he doesn't get to play. Did he ever have his trial?

Way to miss the point.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Maybe I've been up too long, but this is killing me right now.