The Tea Party is back in business! (1 Viewer)

[quickhands]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

some might argue the presidency might need some weakening.

 

[timschochet]

OK. Obviously Willie is shtick. Dunno why I keep falling for this. Guess I'm just dumb.

 

[Willie Neslon]

OK. Obviously Willie is shtick. Dunno why I keep falling for this. Guess I'm just dumb.

I just dont see it as complicated as you do. His job is to solve problems. Making your case in the press does not solve the problem it only makes more. I'm not saying he has to give an inch on obamacare. i'm taking about the shutdown.

 

[quickhands]

OK. Obviously Willie is shtick. Dunno why I keep falling for this. Guess I'm just dumb.

well u might not be dumb. but u act dumb

 

[BigSteelThrill]

OK. Obviously Willie is shtick. Dunno why I keep falling for this. Guess I'm just dumb.

I just dont see it as complicated as you do. His job is to solve problems. Making your case in the press does not solve the problem it only makes more. I'm not saying he has to give an inch on obamacare. i'm taking about the shutdown.

Long term outcome > short term outcome.

He's got this one nailed.

 

[Joe McGee]

The one aspect of this whole thing that never fails to stun me is that the bill to fund the government is only for 8 weeks. 8 WEEKS!!!! Even if they passed it, this whole thing would start again on December 1.

No matter what side of this issue you're on, you've got to acknowledge that this is truly absurd.

I told you this negotiation is only beginning. Not that you would ever listen to a voice of reason.

 

[bear]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

 

[baymen]

The one aspect of this whole thing that never fails to stun me is that the bill to fund the government is only for 8 weeks. 8 WEEKS!!!! Even if they passed it, this whole thing would start again on December 1.

No matter what side of this issue you're on, you've got to acknowledge that this is truly absurd.

Last I checked it was for 6 weeks through 11/15.

 

[DrJ]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

Gestapo America - get in line or we'll make you to be quiet!! Liberals are really outdoing themselves on this one.

 

[badmojo1006]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.

I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

How about being a leader?

What exactly does this mean to you? Be specific, and describe what it is that you think Obama should do that he is not doing.

Get it done.

Say Get r done...I dare ya

 

[bear]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

Gestapo America - get in line or we'll make you to be quiet!! Liberals are really outdoing themselves on this one.

J, this is the internet. There is no way to silence people and, in reality, there is no one who would even want to silence people like you. You are a recruiting poster for people who need to see who the people standing in the way of solving this countries problems are. So, by all means keep on doing what you are doing.

 

[DrJ]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

Gestapo America - get in line or we'll make you to be quiet!! Liberals are really outdoing themselves on this one.

J, this is the internet. There is no way to silence people and, in reality, there is no one who would even want to silence people like you. You are a recruiting poster for people who need to see who the people standing in the way of solving this countries problems are. So, by all means keep on doing what you are doing.

Outside of Tim, are there actually people who change their opinions based on these ridiculous discussions? It's pretty much 46 pages of people talking a bunch of crap.

 

[humpback]

The bottom line is that the resulting Obamacare replacement plan would provide for universal coverage (which Obamacare fails to do), with no individual mandate, no employer mandate, and a net tax and spending cut of at least $1 trillion over the first 10 years alone. The public would overwhelmingly embrace such a Republican health care alternative as vastly preferable to Obamacare. What a resounding reversal that would be in the public’s appraisal of President Obama and his legacy for Obamacare to be replaced by such a Republican alternative based on freedom of choice, market competition and incentives, rather than Obamacare’s effective take over and control over health care.

The bottom line is that Republicans are saying that Americans favor hamburgers and french fries that have no calories. Well, duh. But you have to be swallowing the hook to think that it's possible.

People like the components of the health care plan. They like that they can't be turned away for pre-existing conditions. They think that sounds right to them. But letting people opt into health care whenever they want without turning them away is a mess that everyone who's thought about this issue realizes doesn't work at all..... which means that it's the Republican magical solution.

That Op-Ed may have been one of the worst that I've ever read... and I've read a ton.

Sounds similar to the fairy tales we're told about pretty much every issue, including the ACA.

Sure, people like some of the components (certainly not all), but they generally don't like paying for them. As long as someone else is on the hook for the bill, why not?

Also, I guess Obama didn't think about the issue for the longest time because he actually campaigned against the mandate.

 

[DrJ]

The bottom line is that the resulting Obamacare replacement plan would provide for universal coverage (which Obamacare fails to do), with no individual mandate, no employer mandate, and a net tax and spending cut of at least $1 trillion over the first 10 years alone. The public would overwhelmingly embrace such a Republican health care alternative as vastly preferable to Obamacare. What a resounding reversal that would be in the public’s appraisal of President Obama and his legacy for Obamacare to be replaced by such a Republican alternative based on freedom of choice, market competition and incentives, rather than Obamacare’s effective take over and control over health care.

The bottom line is that Republicans are saying that Americans favor hamburgers and french fries that have no calories. Well, duh. But you have to be swallowing the hook to think that it's possible.People like the components of the health care plan. They like that they can't be turned away for pre-existing conditions. They think that sounds right to them. But letting people opt into health care whenever they want without turning them away is a mess that everyone who's thought about this issue realizes doesn't work at all..... which means that it's the Republican magical solution.

That Op-Ed may have been one of the worst that I've ever read... and I've read a ton.

Sounds similar to the fairy tales we're told about pretty much every issue, including the ACA.Sure, people like some of the components (certainly not all), but they generally don't like paying for them. As long as someone else is on the hook for the bill, why not?

Also, I guess Obama didn't think about the issue for the longest time because he actually campaigned against the mandate.

So true.

 

[KCitons]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

 

[bear]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

Gestapo America - get in line or we'll make you to be quiet!! Liberals are really outdoing themselves on this one.

J, this is the internet. There is no way to silence people and, in reality, there is no one who would even want to silence people like you. You are a recruiting poster for people who need to see who the people standing in the way of solving this countries problems are. So, by all means keep on doing what you are doing.

Outside of Tim, are there actually people who change their opinions based on these ridiculous discussions? It's pretty much 46 pages of people talking a bunch of crap.

Wft are you babbling about? you make absurd statements that have nothing to do with solving this countries problems. But, you have admitted that you are full of ####. Do you have a job? Do you have a business? Do you have any way that you actually contribute to the betterment of this country?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Wft are you babbling about? you make absurd statements that have nothing to do with solving this countries problems. But, you have admitted that you are full of ####. Do you have a job? Do you have a business? Do you have any way that you actually contribute to the betterment of this country?

Oh come on! Give DrJ some credit. He routinely advises young posters here in the forum that going to college would be a waste.

 

[MaxThreshold]

When President Reagan wanted the end of the Berlin wall he went right there and said TEAR DOWN THIS WALL. If President Obama was in office then he'd go on Jay Leno and say "you know, maybe they should think about uh removing the uh wall there." That is the point.

This shtick is wearing a little thin

All i've seen is him doing interviews. How about stepping up and ending the crisis? He's done great in other areas but what he does when it comes to this stuff just isn't working.

The only way that Obama can end the crisis by himself is to cave to the Republican demands. If he does so, he weakens the Presidency- not just his Presidency, but THE Presidency- and he weakens our democratic system, perhaps beyond repair.I don't mind if Obama were to offer some minor things like the device tax, if that would do any good. I've said so several times. But he CANNOT agree to the demand of defunding or delaying Obamacare. He can't. So I'm not sure what it is you want him to do.

What does the President actually do anyways? He signs a bunch of bills, that's about it. We don't need him either.

What we, as a country, absolutely don't need is people like you and your ilk. In a world, where we have the challenges we have, people like you are an anchor around our necks while we try to fix problems that have to be fixed. Health care is at the top of that list. Ultimately, single payer will most likely be that solution. In the meantime, if you truly consider yourself to be an American just shut the #### up and get out of the way of the people who are actually trying to solve problems and move us forward.

Gestapo America - get in line or we'll make you to be quiet!! Liberals are really outdoing themselves on this one.

J, this is the internet. There is no way to silence people and, in reality, there is no one who would even want to silence people like you. You are a recruiting poster for people who need to see who the people standing in the way of solving this countries problems are. So, by all means keep on doing what you are doing.

Outside of Tim, are there actually people who change their opinions based on these ridiculous discussions? It's pretty much 46 pages of people talking a bunch of crap.

Wft are you babbling about? you make absurd statements that have nothing to do with solving this countries problems. But, you have admitted that you are full of ####. Do you have a job? Do you have a business? Do you have any way that you actually contribute to the betterment of this country?

Says the extreme left nut foaming at the mouth on every post she makes. I think this applies to you as well.

 

[DrJ]

Wft are you babbling about? you make absurd statements that have nothing to do with solving this countries problems. But, you have admitted that you are full of ####. Do you have a job? Do you have a business? Do you have any way that you actually contribute to the betterment of this country?

Oh come on! Give DrJ some credit. He routinely advises young posters here in the forum that going to college would be a waste.

Unless they're looking to be an athlete. It's good for stuff like that.

 

[KCitons]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

 

[timschochet]

I like Dr. J. I like anyone with a sense of humor, who can laugh at himself and others. It's the humorless guys, like Linus Marr and jonessed, that I have trouble with.

 

[timschochet]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.

Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay.

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this an way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Removed for who? For you? That's pathetic, IMO.

 

[Premier]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector. What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

 

[KCitons]

So, explained to me what the negative effect is for these workers. I fail to see one.

 

[DrJ]

I like Dr. J. I like anyone with a sense of humor, who can laugh at himself and others. It's the humorless guys, like Linus Marr and jonessed, that I have trouble with.

Thanks TIm. Even though I give you a hard time I'm sure you're right and we'd get along fine. But you do post too much.

 

[MaxThreshold]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

 

[timschochet]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

I do.

 

[Premier]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all. You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

 

[timschochet]

There are also a whole lot of people who take jobs in the public sector, not for the security OR the pay, but because they believe in what they are doing. The workers at FEMA, and in the National Institute of Health, and in the Department of Education, and in Veterans Affairs, and in all sorts of other institutions, are dedicated servants of the public. Many of them work long hours and do not receive either the respect or the remuneration they deserve.

They are patriots and I admire them, and it astonishes me that there are actually people here who don't.

 

[KCitons]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.

But, nice try.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.

But, nice try.

Sucks to be wrongly accused of something when all the facts aren't known isn't it?

 

[KCitons]

There are also a whole lot of people who take jobs in the public sector, not for the security OR the pay, but because they believe in what they are doing. The workers at FEMA, and in the National Institute of Health, and in the Department of Education, and in Veterans Affairs, and in all sorts of other institutions, are dedicated servants of the public. Many of them work long hours and do not receive either the respect or the remuneration they deserve.

They are patriots and I admire them, and it astonishes me that there are actually people here who don't.

Patriots? Are you kidding me? Whether I admire them or no, is not the point.

 

[KCitons]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.

But, nice try.

Sucks to be wrongly accused of something when all the facts aren't known isn't it?

First off when did facts become a necessary part of posting in the FFA? And what did I accuse anyone of doing? Getting a paid vacation?

 

[MaxThreshold]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough? Who knows, but don't hand us that line of crap anymore.

 

[KCitons]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough?

Lol. You can't post all day in the private sector. Too many bosses looking over your shoulder

 

[Doctor Detroit]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.

But, nice try.

Sucks to be wrongly accused of something when all the facts aren't known isn't it?

First off when did facts become a necessary part of posting in the FFA? And what did I accuse anyone of doing? Getting a paid vacation?

So you are stealing your Grandfather in-laws money?

 

[KCitons]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.But, nice try.

Sucks to be wrongly accused of something when all the facts aren't known isn't it?

First off when did facts become a necessary part of posting in the FFA? And what did I accuse anyone of doing? Getting a paid vacation?

So you are stealing your Grandfather in-laws money?

Every dime. How are you enjoying the vacation I am paying for?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough?

Lol. You can't post all day in the private sector. Too many bosses looking over your shoulder

98% of this forum is private sector.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

There is going to be a vote today to decide if furloughed workers will receive back pay. It is expected to pass. So basically, this is a paid vacation for Federal workers. Even if they don't have money in savings, buying necessities with a credit card would allow someone to manage through this shutdown.

Just another benefit of a government job.

You want people to go into credit card debt because their politicians are sore losers? #### you.

Slapdash, you're either joking, or stupid. How would they go into debt? They would only use the credit card as a short term loan until they are given back pay. Then they would payoff the balance Plus they would earn points for a free flight the next time the gov't shuts down.

Did you get your wife's Grand Daddy's trust all worked out yet. :handouts:

Nope. But since you think it's the handout that make's my life better, you're wrong. We've lived within our means, paid off our house 4 years ago, have no credit card debt, no car payment, and put 60% of income into savings and investments. Knowing that my wife could lose her job at the post office, we are prepared. Any inheritance, is just more savings for retirement.But, nice try.

Sucks to be wrongly accused of something when all the facts aren't known isn't it?

First off when did facts become a necessary part of posting in the FFA? And what did I accuse anyone of doing? Getting a paid vacation?

So you are stealing your Grandfather in-laws money?

Every dime. How are you enjoying the vacation I am paying for?

I worked, like I said...accusations without facts.

 

[KCitons]

Yeah, but the 2% do 98% of the posting

 

[Premier]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough? Who knows, but don't hand us that line of crap anymore.

I had a job offer a few months ago that was 30% more than what I make now. It took me 5 seconds to turn it down. It's not about being "too tough", whatever that means. #### off. My buddy recently did the same thing. Who works public in another city.

 

[MaxThreshold]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough?

Lol. You can't post all day in the private sector. Too many bosses looking over your shoulder

98% of this forum is private sector.

LInk?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

So all the people who have been "furloughed" are going to get paid. I wish I could get a furlough or extended vacation knowing I was going to get paid eventually. WooHoo AMERICA!

I can't believe there are people out there who are actually annoyed at the fact that these employees, who were furloughed through no fault of their own, are eventually going to be paid.What the #### is wrong with you people?

If you go back a week, there there was a sympathy sentiment for furloughed workers. That element of the equation has been removed. When I mentioned it, I was reminded how different this regime is and how there is no guarantee. It's business as usual.Lot's of good people have bad things happen. I'm sure there are a few college grads who can't get a job or pay their loans due to the economy. There are millions of workers throughout history that have been laid off, through no fault of their own. Did they receive back pay?

Life's tough. I've already mentioned some ways that these workers could have prepared for this and way they could weather the storm. At least now, we can stop the "poor workers" arguments.

Blah blah blah. A lot of people... A LOT of people take jobs in the public sector for less pay for the security. That's the trade off. Where I work there are literally hundreds of people with masters or doctorates there doing great things for veterans. All of these people could have jobs in the private sector.What's happening to all of these people is total bull####. #### you for being too stupid to not understand that and #### you for your stupid arrogant "I already said what they could have done" as if anybody is looking to your dumb useless ### for advice.

Frankly, I'm tired of hearing this. What a bunch of nonsense. Who really believes this line of bull?

My boss has a doctorate. I have a law degree. I don't even know how many people in my staff have a masters. I am there because I like my work and pay and the security of it all.You clearly have no idea how competitive federal jobs are. You should apply for one sometime and time how quickly the no comes back.

I like my work and pay too with the great job I have - in the private sector. But I once had a federal job too.

I still don't believe you, or anyone else, traded off pay for security. Maybe the private sector was too tough?

Lol. You can't post all day in the private sector. Too many bosses looking over your shoulder

98% of this forum is private sector.

LInk?

Try starting a poll genius.

 

[DrJ]

He's right. Government workers are all too poor to afford computers and tablets due to the sacrifices they all make for us. And the mobile version really sucks.

 

[MaxThreshold]

98% of this forum is private sector.

LInk?

Try starting a poll genius.

You're the moron who made the statement. I'm just asking where this number came from. Is it safe to say you can't substantiate it?

 

[Premier]

He's right. Government workers are all too poor to afford computers and tablets due to the sacrifices they all make for us. And the mobile version really sucks.

Poor? I make really good money. What are you talking about?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

98% of this forum is private sector.

LInk?

Try starting a poll genius.

You're the moron who made the statement. I'm just asking where this number came from. Is it safe to say you can't substantiate it?

You don't know how to start a poll then?

 

[DrJ]

He's right. Government workers are all too poor to afford computers and tablets due to the sacrifices they all make for us. And the mobile version really sucks.

Poor? I make really good money. What are you talking about?

I mean besides the 2% that are rich enough to post here.

 

[MaxThreshold]

He's right. Government workers are all too poor to afford computers and tablets due to the sacrifices they all make for us. And the mobile version really sucks.

If only all of us could be so noble.