The Tea Party is back in business! (1 Viewer)

[TPW]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

When Republicans use that kind of language, Tim acts repulsed by it. But when Dems use it, Tim does not even flinch.

Tim is a blowhard

 

[rolyaTy]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

 

[TPW]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

 

[timschochet]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

When Republicans use that kind of language, Tim acts repulsed by it. But when Dems use it, Tim does not even flinch.

Tim is a blowhard

When do you get to play Cumberland again?

 

[timschochet]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

Do you answer the doorbell with a gun in hand, like Mr. Two Cents does?

 

[DrJ]

The grocery stores are pretty full considering the apocalypse is at our doorstep. Well, except the one that people used the government to rob.

 

[timschochet]

Ted Cruz and Mike Lee have been keeping very quiet lately. They weren't part of the Republican meetings today. Various Tea Party groups are calling on them to delay any compromise bill in the Senate so that it can't be voted on tomorrow- under the rules, any single Senator can obstruct a bill for at least 3 days, which would put us over the debt ceiling. I'm betting they don't do anything of the sort, but who knows?

 

[dparker713]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

I'm not surprised you believe that. Studies have proven stupid people are unable to distinguish who the smart people are.

 

[lod01]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

 

[rolyaTy]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

Why does this make me think you're talking about having a lot of guns and military rations?

If that's not what you mean, what are you talking about? Do you live on your own land, access to your own water supply, renewable energy, self-sufficient?

 

[Joe McGee]

Ted Cruz and Mike Lee have been keeping very quiet lately. They weren't part of the Republican meetings today. Various Tea Party groups are calling on them to delay any compromise bill in the Senate so that it can't be voted on tomorrow- under the rules, any single Senator can obstruct a bill for at least 3 days, which would put us over the debt ceiling. I'm betting they don't do anything of the sort, but who knows?

And Joe Biden has been where recently?

 

[PatsWillWin]

I wish the US had a system like in Australia where the Prime Minister can dissolve BOTH houses with a double dissolution.

BOTH the FULL house and the FULL senate would be put to a special election.

Where there is so much disfunction between the houses, the President should be given the power to blow it all up, let the people decide and start from scratch.

Australia has had 6 double dissolution elections, none within the last 25 years, but there were 4 in the preceeding 15 years when there was a lot of chaos.

Yes, we should have a parliament.

Parliament, a Queen and emus. Is there anything Australia doesn't have?

Iced coffee. <_<

 

[DrJ]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

Why does this make me think you're talking about having a lot of guns and military rations?

If that's not what you mean, what are you talking about? Do you live on your own land, access to your own water supply, renewable energy, self-sufficient?

4 big tubs of oatmeal and 4 dozen eggs. You can live for a year on that.

 

[timschochet]

You know, survivalists always get a bad rap as crazy mother####ers, but whenever there's outer space aliens, zombies, or a nuclear war, they're usually the humans with the best chance to make it through.

 

[rolyaTy]

You know, survivalists always get a bad rap as crazy mother####ers, but whenever there's outer space aliens, zombies, or a nuclear war, they're usually the humans with the best chance to make it through.

And paranoid schizophrenics always thinking someone is out to get them are fairly well prepared when, in the incredibly rare cases where it's true, someone is actually out to get them.

The rest of the time they're just bat-#### crazy, which is 99.999999999% of the time.

 

[DrJ]

You know, survivalists always get a bad rap as crazy mother####ers, but whenever there's outer space aliens, zombies, or a nuclear war, they're usually the humans with the best chance to make it through.

Don't forget extreme (global warming induced) weather.

 

[humpback]

More of a reminder that the status quo is pretty good. But these types of shenanigans do cause severe harm to our country even if the time horizon is too long for our attention spans.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

Why does this make me think you're talking about having a lot of guns and military rations?

If that's not what you mean, what are you talking about? Do you live on your own land, access to your own water supply, renewable energy, self-sufficient?

4 big tubs of oatmeal and 4 dozen eggs. You can live for a year on that.

This is true. Eggs have both male and female reproductive organs, much like Rand Paul.

 

[DrJ]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Well-prepared for any potential side effects of an extended shutdown and/or default.

Why does this make me think you're talking about having a lot of guns and military rations?

If that's not what you mean, what are you talking about? Do you live on your own land, access to your own water supply, renewable energy, self-sufficient?

4 big tubs of oatmeal and 4 dozen eggs. You can live for a year on that.

This is true. Eggs have both male and female reproductive organs, much like Rand Paul.

Easy on Rand, someone needs to bring the penises.

 

[Lutherman2112]

The grocery stores are pretty full considering the apocalypse is at our doorstep. Well, except the one that people used the government to rob.

Nice word salad.

something something apocalypse, something something government rob

 

[Fennis]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

This isn't progressive/conservative. This is stupid(you)/rational(everyone else)

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Well-prepared?

Hes ready to issue bonds.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I assure you that I, my family, and those like me are quite rational, well-educated, and well-prepared. That is what scares you the most.

Awesome shtick here.

 

[DrJ]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

I imagine liberals could get behind some derivation of this as our new pledge of allegiance.

 

[Joe T]

How is the panic coming along in here?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

How is the panic coming along in here?

The sun has not come up yet, maybe the sky fell. Oh wait, the sun doesn't come up for another hour, carry on.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Hilarious. John Corwyn is one of the most staunchly conservative members of the US Senate. He has an extremely consistent record of both fiscal and social conservatism. But to Tea Partiers like Mr. Two Cents, he's a RINO.

It's sheer insanity.

But it would be insane for anyone who held politically conservative opinions to target John Corwyn of all people. I don't know what other word to use.

It's "Cornyn." That's probably the other word to use,

 

[TPW]

Why does somebody have to be a "survivalist" to be prepared? The fact that people who simply follow a Calvinist style work ethic and save for a rainy day are considered to be the fringe just goes to show how far this nation has fallen.

And yes, I do own arable land with its own water source. It's called a farm. It's from where those grocery stores you urbanites think the food fairy lives in actually get their supplies.

 

[igbomb]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Boehner more or less has two choices here, neither of which really work out in his favor:

1. Let the Senate create their bill and pass it, then choose to vote on it. It will pass, but with the Republican Party very fractured, and Boehner will look incompetent because he couldn't even get his party to align enough to write something down and instead had to vote on a bill created by the other chamber.

2. Let the Senate create their bill and sit on it, don't even let it come to a vote. In which case he will be remembered as the guy who let us crash into the debt ceiling. Not such a great legacy.

Now that the House threw their hands up, does Boehner have any path to not make himself look like a patsy?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Interesting that McCain and the WSJ both saying it's time to wave the white flag. I'd expect to see similar stuff on FOX this morning once the GOP's talking points get distributed.

With the government shutdown in its third week and the United States dangerously close to the debt limit, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) urged members of his party on Tuesday to stop digging.“It’s very, very serious,” McCain said, as quoted by the New York Times. “Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

"This is the quality of thinking—or lack thereof—that has afflicted many GOP conservatives from the beginning of this budget showdown," the editorial read. "They picked a goal they couldn't achieve in trying to defund ObamaCare from one House of Congress, and then they picked a means they couldn't sustain politically by pursuing a long government shutdown and threatening to blow through the debt limit."The Journal said that if the Senate passes its compromise to avert default and reopen the government, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) will likely have no choice "other than to bring it to the floor and let it pass with votes from either party."

"At least that's better than getting the blame for whatever happens if Treasury stops sending out Social Security checks in order to prioritize debt repayments," the editorial read. "The politics of that are little better than defaulting on debt. Republicans can best help their cause now by getting this over with and moving on to fight more intelligently another day."

A Republican congressman said Tuesday night that House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) will likely be left with no choice but to hold a vote on the compromise currently being negotiated in the Senate."I believe that John Boehner will likely be in a position where he will have to essentially pass the bill that is negotiated between Sens. McConnell and Reid," Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA) said on CNN. "And I believe that the House would first pass it then send it to the Senate."

 

[jon_mx]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

Funny, we had budget surpluses before but we did not have these instant recessions you refer to. Enlighten us with your vast knowledge of economics.

 

[Henry Ford]

Flat 6% internet sales tax rate. 3% to the state, 3% to the fed. BOOM! Problem solved.

Oh, totally. Which state, again?

 

[jon_mx]

Flat 6% internet sales tax rate. 3% to the state, 3% to the fed. BOOM! Problem solved.

Oh, totally. Which state, again?

'the' state silly..

 

[lod01]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

Funny, we had budget surpluses before but we did not have these instant recessions you refer to. Enlighten us with your vast knowledge of economics.

You got it. It's called Modern Monetary Theory. You should read about it rather than listening to these idiots on tv saying that we need to cut spending. It simply cannot happen. Right now you are seeing the impact of this. The shutdown is estimated to be costing the economy $300 million per day. How long do you think that can go on before another epic recession?

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-02-18/business/35442562_1_john-kenneth-galbraith-budget-surplus-economists

If the government is running a surplus, money is accruing in government coffers rather than in the hands of ordinary people and companies, where it might be spent and help the economy.

There is a reason we are the largest consumers in the world. Without us, the world economy collapses. It's actually genius, shipping jobs out of the country. Therefore we can spend as much as we want. The rest of the world can do nothing about it but go along with it. What you see on tv is simply for show. They all know it already. I know it. Now you know it.

Oh, by the way, $16 TRILLION is staring right at you if you don't believe this. Are we bankrupt? Nope and not even close.

 

[Sammy3469]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Boehner more or less has two choices here, neither of which really work out in his favor:

1. Let the Senate create their bill and pass it, then choose to vote on it. It will pass, but with the Republican Party very fractured, and Boehner will look incompetent because he couldn't even get his party to align enough to write something down and instead had to vote on a bill created by the other chamber.

2. Let the Senate create their bill and sit on it, don't even let it come to a vote. In which case he will be remembered as the guy who let us crash into the debt ceiling. Not such a great legacy.

Now that the House threw their hands up, does Boehner have any path to not make himself look like a patsy?

He could look good to the rest of the country if he pushed a clean bill through the House which fractured his party. But he's been burned by that before.

Pretty sure from some of House Reps late last night that the Boehner will put up whatever the Senate passes and that everyone is telling Cruz et al in the Senate to let the compromise come up for a vote. That's certainly what the financial markets are expecting today.

Having said that, one guy can still much up the works.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If Boehner had pushed through a bill without all this silliness he might have looked good, but I don't think he'll get much credit now.

I do think this was his plan all along though. To give the Tea Party its day knowing they would fail. I'm up in the air if he did that because he didn't want to take them on, or if he did that because he thought it would weaken the Tea Party's power, or both.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

"Insane" people who challenge those from their own party. "Crazies" who stand on principle. "Hostage takers" who cannot be bought off. "Terrorists" who will not back down.

This is the language of fear. Welcome to reality, progressives. We're not afraid.

Of course! Courage is often confused with insanity.

 

[igbomb]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Boehner more or less has two choices here, neither of which really work out in his favor:

1. Let the Senate create their bill and pass it, then choose to vote on it. It will pass, but with the Republican Party very fractured, and Boehner will look incompetent because he couldn't even get his party to align enough to write something down and instead had to vote on a bill created by the other chamber.

2. Let the Senate create their bill and sit on it, don't even let it come to a vote. In which case he will be remembered as the guy who let us crash into the debt ceiling. Not such a great legacy.

Now that the House threw their hands up, does Boehner have any path to not make himself look like a patsy?

He could look good to the rest of the country if he pushed a clean bill through the House which fractured his party. But he's been burned by that before.

I don't think he will look good. I think he might look reasonable, which is an accomplishment in and of itself in the House these days. But he's pretty much viewed is ineffective at this point, which I think is a fair assessment.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

How is the panic coming along in here?

The sun has not come up yet, maybe the sky fell. Oh wait, the sun doesn't come up for another hour, carry on.

It's weird how proud some people are of being flat-earthers.

By repeating the same nonsense does not make it true, chicken-little.

 

[The Commish]

Can't make this stuff up

It's been posted a few times today.

Shameful and indefensible.

Sorry...between the alias slapfights and the every 5 second Tim reports I guess I missed it

 

[igbomb]

How is the panic coming along in here?

The sun has not come up yet, maybe the sky fell. Oh wait, the sun doesn't come up for another hour, carry on.

It's weird how proud some people are of being flat-earthers.

By repeating the same nonsense does not make it true, chicken-little.

Honest question, do you believe you understand the economy and the potential impacts better than the large majority of economists who say this is a really bad thing? Or do you just not care because you believe you are positioned to weather any repercussions?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

How is the panic coming along in here?

The sun has not come up yet, maybe the sky fell. Oh wait, the sun doesn't come up for another hour, carry on.

It's weird how proud some people are of being flat-earthers.

By repeating the same nonsense does not make it true, chicken-little.

Honest question, do you believe you understand the economy and the potential impacts better than the large majority of economists who say this is a really bad thing? Or do you just not care because you believe you are positioned to weather any repercussions?

What impacts exactly are you afraid of? Put a probability on it.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

The fear mongers are in quite the tizzy this morning.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Maybe the answer to this is more congress...dilute the crazies. Like issuing more stock to dilute ownership of a company. We need more representatives!

I've been saying this for years. The members of the House have districts that are too big. There should be 3 or 4 thousand members of the House.

 

[greenroom]

The fear mongers are in quite the tizzy this morning.

I love how you think this is not affecting Americans. I take calls from members who are impacted greatly by not getting checks. This is no more fear mongering than the Republicans saying that President Obama is is creating death panels or that he is wanting to see America fail.

 

[Slapdash]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

Funny, we had budget surpluses before but we did not have these instant recessions you refer to. Enlighten us with your vast knowledge of economics.

We last had a primary budget surplus in 2000 with a recession starting the following March.

 

[Slapdash]

LOL at this stupid woman senator on CNN. 'We have to get control of our debt'. Hey #######, it will always grow. It has to grow. The country cannot function without it growing. We instantly go into a recession.

Funny, we had budget surpluses before but we did not have these instant recessions you refer to. Enlighten us with your vast knowledge of economics.

You got it. It's called Modern Monetary Theory. You should read about it rather than listening to these idiots on tv saying that we need to cut spending. It simply cannot happen. Right now you are seeing the impact of this. The shutdown is estimated to be costing the economy $300 million per day. How long do you think that can go on before another epic recession?

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-02-18/business/35442562_1_john-kenneth-galbraith-budget-surplus-economists

If the government is running a surplus, money is accruing in government coffers rather than in the hands of ordinary people and companies, where it might be spent and help the economy.

There is a reason we are the largest consumers in the world. Without us, the world economy collapses. It's actually genius, shipping jobs out of the country. Therefore we can spend as much as we want. The rest of the world can do nothing about it but go along with it. What you see on tv is simply for show. They all know it already. I know it. Now you know it.

Oh, by the way, $16 TRILLION is staring right at you if you don't believe this. Are we bankrupt? Nope and not even close.

proxy FavreCo

 

[mr roboto]

In 2000 the baby boomers were in their prime earning years. They are now starting to retire. We wont see a budget surplus again anytime soon with SS, Medicare and the huge population moving into their most expensive years.

 

[lod01]

Taking all bets on debt ceiling.

I say it will get raised. Anyone want to take that bet? I want your $.

 

[Joe T]

CEO of JP Morgan

“The United States cannot default and, in my opinion, will not default,” JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon said

Agree.

I hope they get this wrapped up by the weekend so that I can go to the lake.