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The TidesofWar Top 25 College Football Programs (1 Viewer)
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Steve Tasker
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Buffaloes*
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TidesofWar
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Maybe I could appreciate the plaudits or sarcasm better if I knew who JoeT or LHUCKS were
Good. So you admit what you're doing is stupid. That's always the first step.We get it. Not another year of this, please.The Commish said:L5UT1ger said:I can't help myself......like a moth to a flame.
When people stop being stupid, I'll stop. Pretty simple.
SHIZNITTTT
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Still just white chicks in the cheerleading pics...just sad
The Commish
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Good. So you admit what you're doing is stupid. That's always the first step.We get it. Not another year of this, please.The Commish said:L5UT1ger said:I can't help myself......like a moth to a flame.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
And Eric Bieniemy?
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Those, too, for sure.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
No intentional snubs, just trying to throw out some noted players for each team.I actually appreciate folks adding other names.I will be out all day, but will have #21 tomorrow afternoon, most likely.
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Seems like a good thread for my interesting College Football History fact:
They've had NFL All-Decade teams from the 20s through the 90s. Here are the schools with a player from that school on them in 4 or more decades:
Notre Dame - 7
Penn State - 6
Alabama - 5
Michigan - 5
Nebraska - 5
UCLA - 5
USC - 5
Wisconsin - 5
Minnesota - 4
Ohio State - 4
Oregon - 4
Tennessee - 4
Texas - 4
Apropos of nothing, but it is interesting in terms of longevity as a program.
They've had NFL All-Decade teams from the 20s through the 90s. Here are the schools with a player from that school on them in 4 or more decades:
Notre Dame - 7
Penn State - 6
Alabama - 5
Michigan - 5
Nebraska - 5
UCLA - 5
USC - 5
Wisconsin - 5
Minnesota - 4
Ohio State - 4
Oregon - 4
Tennessee - 4
Texas - 4
Apropos of nothing, but it is interesting in terms of longevity as a program.
TidesofWar
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#21 - THE TEXAS A&M AGGIES
The Aggies are 660-443-48 all time, for a .600 winning percentage. TAMU has 18 Conference Crowns to its credit - 17 Southwest Conference Titles between 1917 and 1993, and one Big 12 Crown in 1998.
The Aggies won the AP Title in 1939, going undefeated under legendary Coach Homer Norton, and also claim National Titles from these other selectors....................
1935) 8-1 - Massey
1940 ) 10-0 - Helms, Libby, and Poling
1917) 8-0 - Howell
1919) 10-0 - Billingsley, NCF
1927) 8-0-1 Sagarin
The Aggies boasted perfect records in 1917, 1919, and 1939. They have competed in 30 Bowl games, going 13-17, and have won two Big 12 South Division titles.
Some notable former players include Reggie McNeal, Dat Ngyuen, Bob Smith, Jelly Woodman, Aaron Wallace, Robert Ferguson, John David Crow (Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant's only Heisman winner), Shanne Lechler, Tony Franklin, Lester "Stick-em" Hayes, Dave Emendorf, Jack Pardee, Yale Lary and many more - please add your own!
College Station also has seen more than its share of outstanding Head Coaches. Hera are some, with records....................
Dana X Bible) 72-19-9
Homer Norton) 82-53-9
Paul Bryant) 25-14-2
Gene Stallings) 27-45-1
Emory Bellard) 52-29
Jackie Sherrill) 52-28-1
RC Slocum) 123-47-2
Of this storied collection, it is RC Slocum who has the best winning percentage (72%)
Some Aggie History..................................
Twelth Men at Kyle Field
Aggie Bonfire
The Macot Reveille
Agiie Cheerleaders
Dana X Bible - Aggie Head Coach
R C Slocum
Coaches Paul Bryant and Gene Stallings - 1968 Cotton Bowl
The Coward Franchione gets served
Aggie fortunes have taken a dip recently, and they are currently pinning their hopes on former Packer Head Coach Mike Sherman, who went 4-8 in year one.
Good luck with that.
As they say in College Station - "Gig 'Em Aggies!!"
The Aggies are 660-443-48 all time, for a .600 winning percentage. TAMU has 18 Conference Crowns to its credit - 17 Southwest Conference Titles between 1917 and 1993, and one Big 12 Crown in 1998.
The Aggies won the AP Title in 1939, going undefeated under legendary Coach Homer Norton, and also claim National Titles from these other selectors....................
1935) 8-1 - Massey
1940 ) 10-0 - Helms, Libby, and Poling
1917) 8-0 - Howell
1919) 10-0 - Billingsley, NCF
1927) 8-0-1 Sagarin
The Aggies boasted perfect records in 1917, 1919, and 1939. They have competed in 30 Bowl games, going 13-17, and have won two Big 12 South Division titles.
Some notable former players include Reggie McNeal, Dat Ngyuen, Bob Smith, Jelly Woodman, Aaron Wallace, Robert Ferguson, John David Crow (Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant's only Heisman winner), Shanne Lechler, Tony Franklin, Lester "Stick-em" Hayes, Dave Emendorf, Jack Pardee, Yale Lary and many more - please add your own!
College Station also has seen more than its share of outstanding Head Coaches. Hera are some, with records....................
Dana X Bible) 72-19-9
Homer Norton) 82-53-9
Paul Bryant) 25-14-2
Gene Stallings) 27-45-1
Emory Bellard) 52-29
Jackie Sherrill) 52-28-1
RC Slocum) 123-47-2
Of this storied collection, it is RC Slocum who has the best winning percentage (72%)
Some Aggie History..................................
As you can see - Aggie roots run deep into its agricultural history.Some photos................................
Twelth Men at Kyle Field
Aggie Bonfire
The Macot Reveille
Agiie Cheerleaders
Dana X Bible - Aggie Head Coach
R C Slocum
Coaches Paul Bryant and Gene Stallings - 1968 Cotton Bowl
The Coward Franchione gets served
Aggie fortunes have taken a dip recently, and they are currently pinning their hopes on former Packer Head Coach Mike Sherman, who went 4-8 in year one.
Good luck with that.
As they say in College Station - "Gig 'Em Aggies!!"
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Balance
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Little sooner than I was expecting, but hard to argue lately.
But to add..Aaron Glenn, Dante Hall, Dan Campbell, Sam Adams, Ray Childress, Ty Warren, Pat Williams, Brandon Mitchell, Warrick Holdman, Quentin Coryatt, Reggie Brown (paralyzed in Detroit), Bethel Johnson, Terrence Murphy, Richmond Webb, Ray Mickens, Kevin Smith, more 
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The fact that A&M has no real National Title claims since 1939 and 1940 is the main reason I can see them no higher than 21.Balance said:Little sooner than I was expecting, but hard to argue lately.TidesofWar said:
the hairy scotsman
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Bucky freaking Richardson....Balance said:Little sooner than I was expecting, but hard to argue lately.TidesofWar said:But to add..Aaron Glenn, Dante Hall, Dan Campbell, Sam Adams, Ray Childress, Ty Warren, Pat Williams, Brandon Mitchell, Warrick Holdman, Quentin Coryatt, Reggie Brown (paralyzed in Detroit), Bethel Johnson, Terrence Murphy, Richmond Webb, Ray Mickens, Kevin Smith, more
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Greatest fullback ever to come out of A&M!Bucky freaking Richardson....Balance said:Little sooner than I was expecting, but hard to argue lately.TidesofWar said:But to add..Aaron Glenn, Dante Hall, Dan Campbell, Sam Adams, Ray Childress, Ty Warren, Pat Williams, Brandon Mitchell, Warrick Holdman, Quentin Coryatt, Reggie Brown (paralyzed in Detroit), Bethel Johnson, Terrence Murphy, Richmond Webb, Ray Mickens, Kevin Smith, more
I don't think you could be more wrong. UCLA is easily one of the Top 25 programs of all-time.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
We are talking College Football, not BasketballAs for Michigan Football, they are a legit candidate for #1
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Can you just cut to the end and proclaim 'Bama #1?
Perhaps you're the wrong guy to be making a list of the top college football programs as it appears you lack historical knowledge:We are talking College Football, not BasketballAs for Michigan Football, they are a legit candidate for #1
From your conference's website.UCLA also has 17 Pac-10 Championships, which is 2nd in the conference all-time. I'm not sure how you can make an argument AGAINST their inclusion unless you didn't actually do any research.
If Alabama is rated highly, are you giving credence to NCAA violations and cheating?
The Commish
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Genuine question here....Did they win those conference titles when it was really 10 teams or was their reign prior to that with just 8? I don't know...just asking.
TidesofWar
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A Few Points.....................................Your data above helps and hurts your case. First, the AP shows data only since 1936, and while you have 30 Top 20 and 16 Top 10 finishes, you also have a Big Goose Egg in the "1st" line. But that is only the AP - UCLA went 9-0 under Red Sanders in 1954, winning the UPI and Football Writers National Championship. So you have one to your credit.Perhaps you're the wrong guy to be making a list of the top college football programs as it appears you lack historical knowledge:We are talking College Football, not BasketballAs for Michigan Football, they are a legit candidate for #1From your conference's website.UCLA also has 17 Pac-10 Championships, which is 2nd in the conference all-time. I'm not sure how you can make an argument AGAINST their inclusion unless you didn't actually do any research.
If Alabama is rated highly, are you giving credence to NCAA violations and cheating?
Still, since the AP vote started, this has you at 17th in their poll - the problem is all the other factors work against UCLA, so this will be your high water mark.
UCLA is only 34th in winning percentage, but is really hurt by being a mediocre 58th in all time wins, at 531-365-37, for a .588 winning percentage.
Teams like Vanderbilt, Kansas, and La Tech have more wins, and Southern Miss and Arizona State have a better winning percentage. The fact you have only 531 wins hurts as well, as all other selections so far have more than 600 wins to their credit.
Bottom line - UCLA has one National Title, a fairly good average AP, 18 Conference titles of varying sorts, but is lacking in wins and winning percentage. The Bruins have been inconsistent over time as well. I did have them in at #25 a few years ago, but their recent struggles compelled me to drop them.
As noted in the OP, there are probably ten or more Programs who can make a good case for inclusion - UCLA being one, along with Va Tech, West Virginia, Arizona State, Syracuse, Army, and others.
Everyone just cannot make the cut. It is musical chairs, in a sense.
My question to you, Bruin, is who would you Remove in order to add the Bruins??
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There's an argument to be made. But it's certainly not an easy one. UCLA is 33rd in winning %, 55th in wins and it has a losing bowl record.
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Moving onward and upward.........................
#20 - THE WASHINGTON HUSKIES
Located in Seattle, UDub began playing the game in 1889, and has compiled a 653-398-50 in its history. This .615 winning percentage is #20 all time. Washington also boasts 15 Pacific Coast and Pac 10 Titles, and the 1991 Don James Coached team went 12-0 and was named National Champion by UPI, The football Writers, and The National Football Foundation. ( The 12-0 Miami team was named AP Champ)
The Huskies also were named National Champions by other selectors these years...................
1910 - Record: 6-0
Libby
1960 - Record: 10-1
Helms Athletic Foundation
1984 - Record: 11-1
Berryman
Football News
National Championship Foundation
Washington has partcipated in 14 Rose Bowls, going 7-6-1, and 30 Bowls overall, with a record of 14-14-1.
The Huskies former greats include.............. Steve Emtman, Cody Picket, Ron Holmes, Napolean Kaufmann, Al Worley, Corey Dillon, Olin Kreutz, Lincoln Kennedy, Greg Lewis, and Fletcher Jenkins.
Of partcular note are Guy Flaherty, George Wilson, and the infamous Sonny Sixkiller.
Three former Huskies are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - the greats Hugh McElhenney, Warren Moon, and Arnie Weinmeister.
Don James is "The DawgFather" of Husky Coaches, and won the National Title and The Bryant Aaward in 1991. Other Coaching notables include...........................
COACH Years Record Winning %
Gil Dobie 1908 - 1916 58-0-3 .975
Enoch Bagshaw 1921 - 1929 63-22-6 .725
Jimmy Phelan 1930 - 1941 65-37-8 .627
Don James 1975 - 1992 151-59-2 .717
Rick Neuheisel 1999 - 2002
Note that Gloomy Gil Dobie never lost a game, tying three!
Also a Husky Coaching Alum is Darrell Royal, the all time wins leader at Texas - he went 5-5 in 1956 at Washington, before leaving the next year for Austin.
Washington plays in Husky Stadium, located on The Puget Sound. With the Sound and Husky Navy anchored just outside, this may be the most beautiful setting in College football. It is certainly one of the greatest pre-game atmospheres and locales I have ever had the privilege of participating in. Sipping Suds and eating fresh Salmon, King Crab, and other delights while on Board a boat anchored outside Husky Stadium, on a cool autumnal day - it really does not get any better!
Some UW facts, history, and tradition, from Collegefootballhistory.com.......................
Washington Huskies - History
The Husky Mascot Logo
GORGEOUS Husky Stadium and Husky Navy photo
Husky Stadium and Puget Sound
Husky Stadium again
Old-School Husky Stadium
Sonny Sixkiller on the SI Cover
Sonny Sixkiller in later days
Don James and players Celebrate National Championship
Don James again
"Gloomy" Gil Dobie
Gil Dobie Styling in his day
Steve Emtman
One I Call "Emtman in Winter"
Husky Cheerleader High-Kick
I like this better than Snakes on a Plane
Cheerleaders en Masse
Washington has a proud tradition, and like the programs previously ranked, they are trying to recapture some old magic. There is new hope as Steve Sarkisian, formerly an assistant at USC, begins his first year in Seattle.
GO HUSKIES!!!
#20 - THE WASHINGTON HUSKIES
Located in Seattle, UDub began playing the game in 1889, and has compiled a 653-398-50 in its history. This .615 winning percentage is #20 all time. Washington also boasts 15 Pacific Coast and Pac 10 Titles, and the 1991 Don James Coached team went 12-0 and was named National Champion by UPI, The football Writers, and The National Football Foundation. ( The 12-0 Miami team was named AP Champ)
The Huskies also were named National Champions by other selectors these years...................
1910 - Record: 6-0
Libby
1960 - Record: 10-1
Helms Athletic Foundation
1984 - Record: 11-1
Berryman
Football News
National Championship Foundation
Washington has partcipated in 14 Rose Bowls, going 7-6-1, and 30 Bowls overall, with a record of 14-14-1.
The Huskies former greats include.............. Steve Emtman, Cody Picket, Ron Holmes, Napolean Kaufmann, Al Worley, Corey Dillon, Olin Kreutz, Lincoln Kennedy, Greg Lewis, and Fletcher Jenkins.
Of partcular note are Guy Flaherty, George Wilson, and the infamous Sonny Sixkiller.
Three former Huskies are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame - the greats Hugh McElhenney, Warren Moon, and Arnie Weinmeister.
Don James is "The DawgFather" of Husky Coaches, and won the National Title and The Bryant Aaward in 1991. Other Coaching notables include...........................
COACH Years Record Winning %
Gil Dobie 1908 - 1916 58-0-3 .975
Enoch Bagshaw 1921 - 1929 63-22-6 .725
Jimmy Phelan 1930 - 1941 65-37-8 .627
Don James 1975 - 1992 151-59-2 .717
Rick Neuheisel 1999 - 2002
Note that Gloomy Gil Dobie never lost a game, tying three!
Also a Husky Coaching Alum is Darrell Royal, the all time wins leader at Texas - he went 5-5 in 1956 at Washington, before leaving the next year for Austin.
Washington plays in Husky Stadium, located on The Puget Sound. With the Sound and Husky Navy anchored just outside, this may be the most beautiful setting in College football. It is certainly one of the greatest pre-game atmospheres and locales I have ever had the privilege of participating in. Sipping Suds and eating fresh Salmon, King Crab, and other delights while on Board a boat anchored outside Husky Stadium, on a cool autumnal day - it really does not get any better!
Some UW facts, history, and tradition, from Collegefootballhistory.com.......................
Washington Huskies - History
The Husky Mascot Logo
Yes, We can all thank, or blame, the good folks in Seattle for creating that thing known as "The Wave".Some UW photos................................
GORGEOUS Husky Stadium and Husky Navy photo
Husky Stadium and Puget Sound
Husky Stadium again
Old-School Husky Stadium
Sonny Sixkiller on the SI Cover
Sonny Sixkiller in later days
Don James and players Celebrate National Championship
Don James again
"Gloomy" Gil Dobie
Gil Dobie Styling in his day
Steve Emtman
One I Call "Emtman in Winter"
Husky Cheerleader High-Kick
I like this better than Snakes on a Plane
Cheerleaders en Masse
Washington has a proud tradition, and like the programs previously ranked, they are trying to recapture some old magic. There is new hope as Steve Sarkisian, formerly an assistant at USC, begins his first year in Seattle.
GO HUSKIES!!!
The winning % is a negative. I agree. However, I'm not so sure the total number of wins is something that should be held against them without context. What year are you starting with wins? Is it all-time or at a specific period? UCLA didn't begin competing against major schools until 1928, which is later than many of the schools that are ahead of them on the list. The school wasn't even established until 1919. If you start with the 1928 season (the first year UCLA was in a "major" conference), UCLA jumps up to 21st in winning %. They are #22 in winning % in the AP poll era. They are 21st in wins in the AP poll era. They are 19th in wins since the 1928 season.
Clemson, Arkansas, Michigan St., and Colorado are all programs I'd have below UCLA.
While UCLA's been inconsistent, Clemson hasn't won an outright conference title since 1991. They also haven't been to a major bowl since the 1982 Orange Bowl. That's 27 years without a major bowl appearance, let alone win.
Arkansas hasn't won a conference title since 1992. Arkansas went to eight major bowls in the 50s and 60s. In the rest of the AP poll era (1936-2009), Arkansas has a total of seven major bowl appearances.
And, if UCLA's recent struggles compelled you to drop them, then what's the reason for inclusion of Colorado or Michigan St.? Colorado has five losing seasons in this decade, including the last three years. Michigan St. has been to 19 bowls compared to UCLA's 29. Michigan St. hasn't won a Conference Championship since 1990.
UCLA is also only one of five programs to have never played a team outside of Division I-A or the Football Bowl Subdivision.
Clemson, Arkansas, Michigan St., and Colorado are all programs I'd have below UCLA.
While UCLA's been inconsistent, Clemson hasn't won an outright conference title since 1991. They also haven't been to a major bowl since the 1982 Orange Bowl. That's 27 years without a major bowl appearance, let alone win.
Arkansas hasn't won a conference title since 1992. Arkansas went to eight major bowls in the 50s and 60s. In the rest of the AP poll era (1936-2009), Arkansas has a total of seven major bowl appearances.
And, if UCLA's recent struggles compelled you to drop them, then what's the reason for inclusion of Colorado or Michigan St.? Colorado has five losing seasons in this decade, including the last three years. Michigan St. has been to 19 bowls compared to UCLA's 29. Michigan St. hasn't won a Conference Championship since 1990.
UCLA is also only one of five programs to have never played a team outside of Division I-A or the Football Bowl Subdivision.
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the tidesofwar is quickly becoming legend around these parts....he could even disarm " the most interesting man in the world " with just his posts........sipping wine and eating caviar in the chilly rain outside of seattle- sounds like a World Cup fan.... bon appetit..........LOL CLASSIC!! by the way you forget to mention the greatest accomplishment of don james...he was saban's mentor :(
and what about the billly joe hobert- mark brunell clash during the championship season.....hobert was drafted way higher than brunell but brunell was twice the pro qb hobert was :(
TidesofWar
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I like UCLA, and would personally rather have The Bruins in over Clemson and some others - but the numbers just do not make a case for inclusion. But you can succor yourself with The UCLA Basketball Program, and the knowledge UCLA may well be the best overall Athletics Program in the nation
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Tides, see my edit above. Since UCLA "joined the party," their winning % is among the top 25.
And, I'm not trying to mislead anyone by excluding the years of 1919 (UCLA's founding) to 1927. In those years, they were more like a club team. These are some of the "teams" they played since they couldn't really field a real FB team in those years: Manual Arts High School (still in existence and pretty good in basketball), Hollywood High School, Bakersfield High School, Occidental College Frosh team, Caltech, Redlands, Whittier, Pomona, Loyola, UC Santa Barbara, and La Verne, among others.
In any case, I appreciate the time you've taken to do this and you've done a great job of putting resumes together. And, you've certainly spurred some debate (at least from me).
ETA: UCLA has 12 Rose Bowl appearances along with 2 Fiesta Bowls (1978 and 1984) and 2 Cotton Bowls (1988 and 1997) for 16 major bowl appearances to Arkansas' 16 (if we are counting the Fiesta).
Since 1928, UCLA is ahead of Arkansas in winning % (#21 to 25), ahead of Michigan St., Colorado, and Texas A&M in wins. Since 1936 (AP Poll era), UCLA is ahead of Texas A&M, Colorado, and Michigan St. in wins, and ahead of Arkansas, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Michigan St. in winning %.
And, I'm not trying to mislead anyone by excluding the years of 1919 (UCLA's founding) to 1927. In those years, they were more like a club team. These are some of the "teams" they played since they couldn't really field a real FB team in those years: Manual Arts High School (still in existence and pretty good in basketball), Hollywood High School, Bakersfield High School, Occidental College Frosh team, Caltech, Redlands, Whittier, Pomona, Loyola, UC Santa Barbara, and La Verne, among others.
In any case, I appreciate the time you've taken to do this and you've done a great job of putting resumes together. And, you've certainly spurred some debate (at least from me).
ETA: UCLA has 12 Rose Bowl appearances along with 2 Fiesta Bowls (1978 and 1984) and 2 Cotton Bowls (1988 and 1997) for 16 major bowl appearances to Arkansas' 16 (if we are counting the Fiesta).
Since 1928, UCLA is ahead of Arkansas in winning % (#21 to 25), ahead of Michigan St., Colorado, and Texas A&M in wins. Since 1936 (AP Poll era), UCLA is ahead of Texas A&M, Colorado, and Michigan St. in wins, and ahead of Arkansas, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Michigan St. in winning %.
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Take your damn liberal political schtick to the political threads. This a thread for real men. Not whimps who whine a cry about every non-PC thing in existence.FYI...LSU Tigers should be top 10
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Footballguy
Where would they be on your list if they got 4 downs just like every other team?
What are you talking about? UCLA plays D I-AA caliber teams every year.
Yes.
That's just the response I'd expect from a school that schedules I-AA schools. LSU was the only SEC school to not play a non-conference BCS school in 2008. Congrats on that!What are you talking about? UCLA plays D I-AA caliber teams every year.
Yup.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
I enjoy the debate, and you have presented a very compelling case for The Bruins
A few of the reasons I do this each summer - the debates, it gets me ready for some football in the heat of summer and its (for me) blase sports months of June and July, and I learn something new every year.
TidesofWar
Footballguy
#19 - THE PITTSBURGH STEELERS PANTHERS
Pitt began playing Football in 1890, and has compiled a 654-476-41 record, a 59% rate of victory. A long-time independent, Pitt has but one Conference Title, as a 2004 Big East Co-Champ. However, the Panthers have two AP Titles, coming in 1937 and 1976.
Pitt has also enjoyed 8 undefeated and 17 one-loss seasons in their history
Pitt also was awarded the National Championship by the following selectors.................
1910 9-0 National Championship Foundation
1916 8-0 Unanimous
1918 4-1 Unanimous (War shortened schedule)
1929 9-1 Parke Davis
1931 8-1 Parke Davis
1934 8-1 Parke Davis
1936 8-1-1 Houlgate, Boand
1937 8-1 AP, Houlgate, Boand, Football Thesauras, Dunkel, Litkenhous
1976 12-0 Unanimous
Pitt has produced an incredible amount of great talent - players such as Jim Covert, Craig Heyward, Larry Fitzgerald, Russ Grimm, Curtis Martin, Mark May, Rickey Jackson, Chris Doleman, and the greta Hugh Green, who probably should have won the Heisman in 1980.
Former greats in the NFL Hall of Fame now are Tony Dorsett, Mike Ditka, Alex Van Pely, Mike Jury, Joe Schmidt, and the Isotoner and Slimfast guy........... oh yeah, Dan Marino.
The Panthers have also seen their share of outstanding Coaches, including the legend "Pop" Warner....................
Glenn Scobey "Pop Warner 1915-1923 60-12-4 .816
Jock Sutherland 1924-1938 111-20-12 .818
Johnny Majors 8 total seasons 45-45-1 .500
Jackie Sherrill 1977-1981 50-9-1 .842
Serafino "Foge" Fazio 1982-1985 25-18-3 .576
Mike Gottfried 1986-1989 26-17-2 .600
The 1976 Pitt National Champs are, in my opinion, the first of the real "Super Teams" we have seen.
Some Pitt History..............................
The Panther Tooth
When Peter Moore, one of the world's foremost talents in sports image, designed the current Panthers logo in the spring of 1997, he said "the new image has been inspired by the people of Pittsburgh and the heritage of the city. A city that is the home of championship teams. Teams that were forged from great talent but more importantly from great efforts. This is Pittsburgh. The home of the University of Pittsburgh Panthers." Today, the Panther emerges in another form of strength, courage, and determination. As we focus on the Panther, the ferocious eyetooth has become the greatest symbol of this competitive spirit. Traced back to ancient societies, great and successful defenders of those societies were rewarded for their heroics with a meaningful token -- an icon that symbolized their efforts and importance within the society. Added prominently to the Panthers uniform this season will be a symbol to note advanced achievement -- the gleaming tooth of the Panther. Awarded for great deeds, it will also serve to display the strength of this mascot. This emblem will bring honor and glory to those who wear it proudly.
The Panther
The Panther (Felis concolor) was adopted as the University of Pittsburgh's mascot at a meeting of students and alumni in the autumn of 1909. According to George M. P. Baird, '09, who made the suggestion, it was chosen for the following reasons:
1) The Panther was the most formidable creature once indigenous to the Pittsburgh region.
2) It had ancient, heraldic standing as a noble animal.
3) The happy accident of alliteration.
4) The close approximation of its hue to the old gold of the University's colors (old gold and blue), hence its easy adaptability in decoration.
5) The fact that no other college or university then employed it as a symbol.
Pop Warner Years (1915–1923)
Hall of fame head football coach "Pop" Warner with three-time All-American and team captain Bob Peck during the 1916 national championship seasonIn 1914, Pitt athletic booster Joseph Trees and athletic director A. R. Hamilton hired Genn Scobey "Pop" Warner, who had previously led Carlisle, Cornell, and Georgia, as Pitt's head coach. Warner had been successful at his previous stops, mentoring the likes of Jim Thorpe, and was known as a innovator of the game who originated the screen pass, single- and double-wing formations, and use of shoulder and thigh pads. His arrival at Pitt gave the program instant national credibility, lifting the perception of the program from more of a regional power to that of a national one.
Traditions
Among the oldest traditions is the Official University Yell, dating to 1890, that has survived as lyrics within the fight song "Hail to Pitt". This song, along with the Pitt Victory Song, and The Panther Song, are the the most common of Pitt fight songs performed on game days by the Pitt Band. The Pitt Band also participates in the "Panthers Prowl" which begins two hours before kickoff and allows fans to meet the team as they make their way into Heinz Field outside Gate A. Originally, this tradition began as players made their way into Pitt Stadium. One hour prior to kick off, the Pitt Band also engages in the "March to Victory" from Tony Dorsett Drive down General Robinson Street and ending at the stage on Art Rooney Avenue. This tradition dates back to before the move to Heinz Field when the Pitt Band would march throughout the streets of Oakland campus before arriving at Pitt Stadium. In addition, at halftime, the band typically will play in at least one formation spelling out "PITT". Other football traditions include:
The Pitt Band plays the "Victory Song" at the end of a 26-13 win over Notre Dame at Pitt Stadium during the 1956 Pitt football seasonStudent organizations, carrying standards, form a tunnel for the football players to run through as the enter the football field from the locker room. Originally, this long standing tradition involved only Pitt fraternities and sororities. The tradition was briefly lost following the 1999 season when Pitt's football program transitioned from playing in Pitt Stadium to Three Rivers Stadium in 2000 followed by Heinz Field in 2001. The tradition was resurrected beginning with the 2008 football season.
Following touchdowns, the horns of the Gateway Clipper riverboat fleet, which cruises just outside Heinz Field, sound.
When the Pitt offense moves into the 20 yard line, two large, motorized Heinz ketchup bottles flanking either side of the scoreboard tilt over and beginning to pour out their electronic contents onto the JumboTron's screen signifying the team's move into the "red zone"
The upper section of the Cathedral of Learning is illuminated "gold" after a football team victory, as opposed to the everyday white spotlights.
The jumbotron has lead the crowd in a "Let's Go Pitt!" version of Sweet Caroline between the 3rd and 4th quarter.
Student section
During the late 1990s, athletic director Steve Pederson instituted a rebranding of the Pitt Stadium student section in an attempt to bolster enthusiasm and unity by emphasizing the 12th man concept. The stadium was repainted with the student section changed to section "12" and a large inflatable jersey bearing number 12 was placed near the section. Upon the move the Heinz Field, the athletic department, in collaboration with their sideline apparel outfitter at the time Aéropostale, created the Aero-Zone. The Aero-Zone served as an exclusive on-field seating section for Pitt students where the first 200 students who lined up for the section before the game with student were admitted if they possessed tickets and proper identification. The Aero-Zone failed to catch sustained interest and was eventually disappeared.
The current official Pitt football student fan club and cheering section, the Panther Pitt, was founded in 2003 by Pitt students Robin Frank and Julie Brennan to attempt to organize an Oakland Zoo-like atmosphere at Heinz Field for football games. The Panther Pitt helped in coordinating student ticking policies with the athletic department and the Oakland Zoo. In 2006, the Panther Pitt and the Pitt Student Government Board originated the concept of "Code Blue" in which students wear blue t-shirts to the game to match the home blue uniforms of the Pitt football team. Commonly worn by students attending football games, the back of "Code-Blue" t-shirts typically include the line "Alle-genee-genac-genac" from the Official University Yell. Other groups are also attempting to create a more unified student section for football.
Rivalries
Pitt beat West Virginia 11–0 in this November 11, 1908 game at Exposition ParkThe University of Pittsburgh has long-standing rivalries with several teams. Currently, Pitt's fiercest and primary rivalry is the Backyard Brawl which is played annually against fellow Big East Conference member the West Virginia. The Brawl, played 101 times, is one of the oldest and most played rivalries in college football. Prior to the 2001 football season, Pitt's most heated and longest standing rival had been intrastate foe Penn State. Sometimes referred to as the Pennsylvania Classic, this game has been on hiatus since 2000 following a rash of disputes between the two schools. Other long-standing rivals include the Notre Dame and Syracuse. More recently, the River City Rivalry was established when the Cincinnati Bearcats entered the Big East.
Some Pitt photos.................................
Hugh Green Looking Mean on SI Cover
Victory Fireworks Illuminate the Cathedral of Learning
Old Pitt Stadium
Heinz Field - New Home To The Panthers
Pop Waner - Pitt Head Coach
Young Panther Mike Ditka
Tony Dorsett on SI Cover
Dorsett and 1976 Pitt Champions SI Cover
Dan Marino
Dan Marino signs to play at Pitt
Pitt Cheerleaders
More Pitt Cheerleaders
Dave Wannestedt getting pumped
The Panthers are another Program trying to get into high gear again, and hope NFL veteran and 4th year Head Coach are going to begin turning the corner this season. Coming off a Bowl appearance last year, and with Wannastedt's recruiting being praised by many "experts", The Panthers may be on the brink of a return to the National spotlight.
GO PITT!!!!!
Pitt began playing Football in 1890, and has compiled a 654-476-41 record, a 59% rate of victory. A long-time independent, Pitt has but one Conference Title, as a 2004 Big East Co-Champ. However, the Panthers have two AP Titles, coming in 1937 and 1976.
Pitt has also enjoyed 8 undefeated and 17 one-loss seasons in their history
Pitt also was awarded the National Championship by the following selectors.................
1910 9-0 National Championship Foundation
1916 8-0 Unanimous
1918 4-1 Unanimous (War shortened schedule)
1929 9-1 Parke Davis
1931 8-1 Parke Davis
1934 8-1 Parke Davis
1936 8-1-1 Houlgate, Boand
1937 8-1 AP, Houlgate, Boand, Football Thesauras, Dunkel, Litkenhous
1976 12-0 Unanimous
Pitt has produced an incredible amount of great talent - players such as Jim Covert, Craig Heyward, Larry Fitzgerald, Russ Grimm, Curtis Martin, Mark May, Rickey Jackson, Chris Doleman, and the greta Hugh Green, who probably should have won the Heisman in 1980.
Former greats in the NFL Hall of Fame now are Tony Dorsett, Mike Ditka, Alex Van Pely, Mike Jury, Joe Schmidt, and the Isotoner and Slimfast guy........... oh yeah, Dan Marino.
The Panthers have also seen their share of outstanding Coaches, including the legend "Pop" Warner....................
Glenn Scobey "Pop Warner 1915-1923 60-12-4 .816
Jock Sutherland 1924-1938 111-20-12 .818
Johnny Majors 8 total seasons 45-45-1 .500
Jackie Sherrill 1977-1981 50-9-1 .842
Serafino "Foge" Fazio 1982-1985 25-18-3 .576
Mike Gottfried 1986-1989 26-17-2 .600
The 1976 Pitt National Champs are, in my opinion, the first of the real "Super Teams" we have seen.
Some Pitt History..............................
The Panther Tooth
When Peter Moore, one of the world's foremost talents in sports image, designed the current Panthers logo in the spring of 1997, he said "the new image has been inspired by the people of Pittsburgh and the heritage of the city. A city that is the home of championship teams. Teams that were forged from great talent but more importantly from great efforts. This is Pittsburgh. The home of the University of Pittsburgh Panthers." Today, the Panther emerges in another form of strength, courage, and determination. As we focus on the Panther, the ferocious eyetooth has become the greatest symbol of this competitive spirit. Traced back to ancient societies, great and successful defenders of those societies were rewarded for their heroics with a meaningful token -- an icon that symbolized their efforts and importance within the society. Added prominently to the Panthers uniform this season will be a symbol to note advanced achievement -- the gleaming tooth of the Panther. Awarded for great deeds, it will also serve to display the strength of this mascot. This emblem will bring honor and glory to those who wear it proudly.
The Panther
The Panther (Felis concolor) was adopted as the University of Pittsburgh's mascot at a meeting of students and alumni in the autumn of 1909. According to George M. P. Baird, '09, who made the suggestion, it was chosen for the following reasons:
1) The Panther was the most formidable creature once indigenous to the Pittsburgh region.
2) It had ancient, heraldic standing as a noble animal.
3) The happy accident of alliteration.
4) The close approximation of its hue to the old gold of the University's colors (old gold and blue), hence its easy adaptability in decoration.
5) The fact that no other college or university then employed it as a symbol.
Pop Warner Years (1915–1923)
Hall of fame head football coach "Pop" Warner with three-time All-American and team captain Bob Peck during the 1916 national championship seasonIn 1914, Pitt athletic booster Joseph Trees and athletic director A. R. Hamilton hired Genn Scobey "Pop" Warner, who had previously led Carlisle, Cornell, and Georgia, as Pitt's head coach. Warner had been successful at his previous stops, mentoring the likes of Jim Thorpe, and was known as a innovator of the game who originated the screen pass, single- and double-wing formations, and use of shoulder and thigh pads. His arrival at Pitt gave the program instant national credibility, lifting the perception of the program from more of a regional power to that of a national one.
Traditions
Among the oldest traditions is the Official University Yell, dating to 1890, that has survived as lyrics within the fight song "Hail to Pitt". This song, along with the Pitt Victory Song, and The Panther Song, are the the most common of Pitt fight songs performed on game days by the Pitt Band. The Pitt Band also participates in the "Panthers Prowl" which begins two hours before kickoff and allows fans to meet the team as they make their way into Heinz Field outside Gate A. Originally, this tradition began as players made their way into Pitt Stadium. One hour prior to kick off, the Pitt Band also engages in the "March to Victory" from Tony Dorsett Drive down General Robinson Street and ending at the stage on Art Rooney Avenue. This tradition dates back to before the move to Heinz Field when the Pitt Band would march throughout the streets of Oakland campus before arriving at Pitt Stadium. In addition, at halftime, the band typically will play in at least one formation spelling out "PITT". Other football traditions include:
The Pitt Band plays the "Victory Song" at the end of a 26-13 win over Notre Dame at Pitt Stadium during the 1956 Pitt football seasonStudent organizations, carrying standards, form a tunnel for the football players to run through as the enter the football field from the locker room. Originally, this long standing tradition involved only Pitt fraternities and sororities. The tradition was briefly lost following the 1999 season when Pitt's football program transitioned from playing in Pitt Stadium to Three Rivers Stadium in 2000 followed by Heinz Field in 2001. The tradition was resurrected beginning with the 2008 football season.
Following touchdowns, the horns of the Gateway Clipper riverboat fleet, which cruises just outside Heinz Field, sound.
When the Pitt offense moves into the 20 yard line, two large, motorized Heinz ketchup bottles flanking either side of the scoreboard tilt over and beginning to pour out their electronic contents onto the JumboTron's screen signifying the team's move into the "red zone"
The upper section of the Cathedral of Learning is illuminated "gold" after a football team victory, as opposed to the everyday white spotlights.
The jumbotron has lead the crowd in a "Let's Go Pitt!" version of Sweet Caroline between the 3rd and 4th quarter.
Student section
During the late 1990s, athletic director Steve Pederson instituted a rebranding of the Pitt Stadium student section in an attempt to bolster enthusiasm and unity by emphasizing the 12th man concept. The stadium was repainted with the student section changed to section "12" and a large inflatable jersey bearing number 12 was placed near the section. Upon the move the Heinz Field, the athletic department, in collaboration with their sideline apparel outfitter at the time Aéropostale, created the Aero-Zone. The Aero-Zone served as an exclusive on-field seating section for Pitt students where the first 200 students who lined up for the section before the game with student were admitted if they possessed tickets and proper identification. The Aero-Zone failed to catch sustained interest and was eventually disappeared.
The current official Pitt football student fan club and cheering section, the Panther Pitt, was founded in 2003 by Pitt students Robin Frank and Julie Brennan to attempt to organize an Oakland Zoo-like atmosphere at Heinz Field for football games. The Panther Pitt helped in coordinating student ticking policies with the athletic department and the Oakland Zoo. In 2006, the Panther Pitt and the Pitt Student Government Board originated the concept of "Code Blue" in which students wear blue t-shirts to the game to match the home blue uniforms of the Pitt football team. Commonly worn by students attending football games, the back of "Code-Blue" t-shirts typically include the line "Alle-genee-genac-genac" from the Official University Yell. Other groups are also attempting to create a more unified student section for football.
Rivalries
Pitt beat West Virginia 11–0 in this November 11, 1908 game at Exposition ParkThe University of Pittsburgh has long-standing rivalries with several teams. Currently, Pitt's fiercest and primary rivalry is the Backyard Brawl which is played annually against fellow Big East Conference member the West Virginia. The Brawl, played 101 times, is one of the oldest and most played rivalries in college football. Prior to the 2001 football season, Pitt's most heated and longest standing rival had been intrastate foe Penn State. Sometimes referred to as the Pennsylvania Classic, this game has been on hiatus since 2000 following a rash of disputes between the two schools. Other long-standing rivals include the Notre Dame and Syracuse. More recently, the River City Rivalry was established when the Cincinnati Bearcats entered the Big East.
Some Pitt photos.................................
Hugh Green Looking Mean on SI Cover
Victory Fireworks Illuminate the Cathedral of Learning
Old Pitt Stadium
Heinz Field - New Home To The Panthers
Pop Waner - Pitt Head Coach
Young Panther Mike Ditka
Tony Dorsett on SI Cover
Dorsett and 1976 Pitt Champions SI Cover
Dan Marino
Dan Marino signs to play at Pitt
Pitt Cheerleaders
More Pitt Cheerleaders
Dave Wannestedt getting pumped
The Panthers are another Program trying to get into high gear again, and hope NFL veteran and 4th year Head Coach are going to begin turning the corner this season. Coming off a Bowl appearance last year, and with Wannastedt's recruiting being praised by many "experts", The Panthers may be on the brink of a return to the National spotlight.
GO PITT!!!!!
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