I disagree with that completely and don't see what you base that comment on. They both felt their was a risk in getting caught but to say they went into it knowing they were going to get caught I don't agree with. It was just the episode before were Mcnulty is asking Lester "to get him out of this mess" so I don't see who he had come to grips with getting busted and they both seemed pretty upset at the news that they had been caught. With regards to getting the bust they wanted they did not get that either since Marlo was the bust they wanted and he walked. When Lester got the news he could no longer practice real police work he seemed most bothered by the fact that Marlo was going to walk. So in the end Kima ratting them out cost them not only their careers but it cost them their big fish in Marlo.
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While I don't think they we're okay with ending their careers, I do agree with the sentiment. Lester and McNulty know that she is "real police." And they respect that. Also, she has always been the moral compass for that group.
Leeroy Jenkins
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Considering the real Bubbles died from AIDS complications, hell yes they did.Chaka said:
Fiddles
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Leeroy Jenkins
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Christo said:
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Yes - but that race won't be relevant for another 5-10 years. Gotta get folks to ditch their DVDs and go to home media players that don't take discs. Saying netflix will be going out of biz soon is kind of silly.The vast majority of folks I know prefer DVDs to streaming or data-only mediums.snitwitch said:This is the next race IMO, who can deliver this stuff sans physical media.corpcow said:Oh? Not to derail the thread, but I really think this was a silly commentChaka said:Go with Blockbuster, Netflix will be out of business before too long.Evilgrin 72 said:Get a Netflix or Blockbuster Online account and put the whole series (seasons 1-4) in your queue. All of season 5 is On Demand right now.dancingbones said:I finally stared watching this show in time to see about 4 or 5 episodes.
Who can point me to where I can go back and watch the rest of the series?Blockbuster has a 500m market cap, Netflix has a 2b market cap. Both are up today, but NFLX is doing some innovative things around streaming (partnering with LG for their TVs, rumors of releasing something to enable this over consoles like PS3 and X360).
I completely agree, though, that DVDs will start to run the course of Cds or VCR tape players - I just don't see it as "soon."
koby925
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Finally caught up. I have never seen a TV show that can elicit the full gamut of emotions like this show did. Brilliant writing, acting, producting, directing. It will be missed. A few observations:
1) Hated Omar getting the Boba Fett treatment at first. I came around a bit on this but I still envisioned a grander exit or perhaps Michael doing the job
2) The kid actors in this show were amazing. Glad to see their stories wrapped up for the most part in season 5. I thought the progression of the lives of the 4 main kids, in particular, was really well written.
3) Loved the McNulty fake wake
4) Marlo becoming the new Stringer Bell while still maintaining the Avon side was great.
5) Speaking of Avon, I was disappointed to not see he and Brother Mouzone at the end.
6) I'd rank the seasons: 4,3,1,2,5
Oh and the new mayor was HOT
1) Hated Omar getting the Boba Fett treatment at first. I came around a bit on this but I still envisioned a grander exit or perhaps Michael doing the job
2) The kid actors in this show were amazing. Glad to see their stories wrapped up for the most part in season 5. I thought the progression of the lives of the 4 main kids, in particular, was really well written.
3) Loved the McNulty fake wake
4) Marlo becoming the new Stringer Bell while still maintaining the Avon side was great.
5) Speaking of Avon, I was disappointed to not see he and Brother Mouzone at the end.
6) I'd rank the seasons: 4,3,1,2,5
Oh and the new mayor was HOT
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
DA lady (Richmond?) becomes judgeCarver gets promoted.the moops said:
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The Syndor/McNulty mirror was hammered home in the scene with the judge that screwed over McNulty - esp. when he says "keep my name out of it." That was what got McNulty thrown on the boat in season 1.Chaka said:
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Scott got caught, Gus was not on the outside.Gus was exactly where he was when we were introduced to him.The upper management folks at the newspaper simply didn't care that Scott got caught - they were more interested in getting awards for his writing and sweeping the faked quotes under the rug.
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And it looks like they "got" the kid that shot him. At least that was the implication I took from a homicide detective standing there when the cops were cuffing that kid.
Well, Avon anyway. Avon was still in jail where Weebay and Chris were. I figured we'd see him in that scene.
whoknew
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Gus got demoted, right?Scott got caught, Gus was not on the outside.Gus was exactly where he was when we were introduced to him.The upper management folks at the newspaper simply didn't care that Scott got caught - they were more interested in getting awards for his writing and sweeping the faked quotes under the rug.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
If he was demoted some time in there, I certainly missed it. They took Scott's story and ran it through the State desk because Gus wouldn't take it through the Metro desk.
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whoknew
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Gus was moved to the copy desk. I think that dude that wrote the story on Bubs was the new Metro editor.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Hmm. You might be right on that.If so, my bad.
koby925
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Part of me thought (like Gekko said) that we'd see Brother Mouzone and maybe even Avon join with Omar to get Marlo. Beacuse of the references to Marlo's ruthlessness in taking people out, even by the streets' standards. I thought for sure the little tastes of Avon we got in the beginning of season 5 introducing Marlo to the Greeks would lead to more. Oh well.
corpcow
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They're doing it today. You can stream to your computer, and they are working on disks you can put in your Xbox 360 or PS3 and instantly stream to your console. It's a DVD that "plays" on these internet-connected devices.Yes - but that race won't be relevant for another 5-10 years. Gotta get folks to ditch their DVDs and go to home media players that don't take discs. Saying netflix will be going out of biz soon is kind of silly.The vast majority of folks I know prefer DVDs to streaming or data-only mediums.snitwitch said:This is the next race IMO, who can deliver this stuff sans physical media.corpcow said:Oh? Not to derail the thread, but I really think this was a silly commentChaka said:Go with Blockbuster, Netflix will be out of business before too long.Evilgrin 72 said:Get a Netflix or Blockbuster Online account and put the whole series (seasons 1-4) in your queue. All of season 5 is On Demand right now.dancingbones said:I finally stared watching this show in time to see about 4 or 5 episodes.
Who can point me to where I can go back and watch the rest of the series?
I completely agree, though, that DVDs will start to run the course of Cds or VCR tape players - I just don't see it as "soon."
corpcow
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Yep, that's what happened.When he told Alma she would write herself out of county in no time, she said "just like you'll edit your way off the copy desk". And the dude who wrote the Bubbles story is seen saying "3 minutes" like Gus used to say.
He wasn't fired, but he was demoted. He went from being the city editor to the copy editor.I guess we've established that.Scott got caught, Gus was not on the outside.
Gus was exactly where he was when we were introduced to him.
The upper management folks at the newspaper simply didn't care that Scott got caught - they were more interested in getting awards for his writing and sweeping the faked quotes under the rug.
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whoknew
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David Simon has two things going on:1) A mini-series on the Iraq war from a soldier's perspective. It's called Generation Kill and I think it will be on HBO.2) HBO has ordered a pilot he's doing on New Orleans musicians re-starting their lives after Katrina. The last I read was there was a pilot, but nothing else so far. I just looked this stuff up yesterday, so I could be wrong on either or both.
fsufan
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i read something about a new show called true blood, about vampires.
Native
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1) The best thing about the finale was Mcnultys wake. Absolutely fantastic television.
2) Looking back, the final dialogue between Stringer and Avon on the roof - and Stringers ultimate death in the next scene - was my favorite highlight of the show. They were two of the most fascinating, complicated and compelling characters. I was actually a bit disappointed that Avon was never reintroduced more in season five (I thought that maybe he would ante up the $10M to buy the connect from Marlo).
Kind of sad that its over - one of my favorite shows ever.
2) Looking back, the final dialogue between Stringer and Avon on the roof - and Stringers ultimate death in the next scene - was my favorite highlight of the show. They were two of the most fascinating, complicated and compelling characters. I was actually a bit disappointed that Avon was never reintroduced more in season five (I thought that maybe he would ante up the $10M to buy the connect from Marlo).
Kind of sad that its over - one of my favorite shows ever.
scoobygang
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Yeah, that's being run by Alan Ball, the creator of Six Feet Under.
Native
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snitwitch
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Fiddles
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interview with dominic west
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-wiret...0,4859916.story
Washea hard character to let go of?
Yes and no. Well [laughs] we're trying to get the movie made; we're trying to persuade David Simon, and he doesn't need persuading -- he just needs a story. Because Wendell [Pierce], who plays Bunk, and Sonja [sohn], who plays Kima Greggs, are really pushing to get a movie made because it would be great, so David said, "Well, it would have to be a prequel." And I said, well, in that case I would have to have surgery, and you would have to write in that McNulty looks astonished the whole time. So I don't know, I don't feel like I've really said goodbye yet.
Was it tough that it was an abbreviated season with only 10 episodes this time around?
Yeah, I think it was a mistake. I think HBO must've thought it was a mistake when the writers strike came along as well. [Laughs] There was no question, I felt it most in the first three episodes where my character had to cover a lot of ground to get into the story line. A lot of shortcuts had to be made where had we 13 hours I think would've been played out more thoroughly. Again, he did an amazing job, but he always had 13 in mind and had to lose three hours somehow.
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-wiret...0,4859916.story
Washea hard character to let go of?
Yes and no. Well [laughs] we're trying to get the movie made; we're trying to persuade David Simon, and he doesn't need persuading -- he just needs a story. Because Wendell [Pierce], who plays Bunk, and Sonja [sohn], who plays Kima Greggs, are really pushing to get a movie made because it would be great, so David said, "Well, it would have to be a prequel." And I said, well, in that case I would have to have surgery, and you would have to write in that McNulty looks astonished the whole time. So I don't know, I don't feel like I've really said goodbye yet.
Was it tough that it was an abbreviated season with only 10 episodes this time around?
Yeah, I think it was a mistake. I think HBO must've thought it was a mistake when the writers strike came along as well. [Laughs] There was no question, I felt it most in the first three episodes where my character had to cover a lot of ground to get into the story line. A lot of shortcuts had to be made where had we 13 hours I think would've been played out more thoroughly. Again, he did an amazing job, but he always had 13 in mind and had to lose three hours somehow.
Shrek
Having a great season
A movie would be fantastic, but I'll bet it never gets done. Despite it's popularity, there's still a relatively small percentage of the population that would be interested enough to go to the theaters to see it. I can't see the budget being offset by the box office/video rentals on that.interview with dominic west
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-wiret...0,4859916.story
Washea hard character to let go of?
Yes and no. Well [laughs] we're trying to get the movie made; we're trying to persuade David Simon, and he doesn't need persuading -- he just needs a story. Because Wendell [Pierce], who plays Bunk, and Sonja [sohn], who plays Kima Greggs, are really pushing to get a movie made because it would be great, so David said, "Well, it would have to be a prequel." And I said, well, in that case I would have to have surgery, and you would have to write in that McNulty looks astonished the whole time. So I don't know, I don't feel like I've really said goodbye yet.
Was it tough that it was an abbreviated season with only 10 episodes this time around?
Yeah, I think it was a mistake. I think HBO must've thought it was a mistake when the writers strike came along as well. [Laughs] There was no question, I felt it most in the first three episodes where my character had to cover a lot of ground to get into the story line. A lot of shortcuts had to be made where had we 13 hours I think would've been played out more thoroughly. Again, he did an amazing job, but he always had 13 in mind and had to lose three hours somehow.
Chaka
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Doesn't strike me as the type of film requiring a particularly large budget.Not an A-list actor or actress in the bunch.A movie would be fantastic, but I'll bet it never gets done. Despite it's popularity, there's still a relatively small percentage of the population that would be interested enough to go to the theaters to see it. I can't see the budget being offset by the box office/video rentals on that.interview with dominic west
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-wiret...0,4859916.story
Washea hard character to let go of?
Yes and no. Well [laughs] we're trying to get the movie made; we're trying to persuade David Simon, and he doesn't need persuading -- he just needs a story. Because Wendell [Pierce], who plays Bunk, and Sonja [sohn], who plays Kima Greggs, are really pushing to get a movie made because it would be great, so David said, "Well, it would have to be a prequel." And I said, well, in that case I would have to have surgery, and you would have to write in that McNulty looks astonished the whole time. So I don't know, I don't feel like I've really said goodbye yet.
Was it tough that it was an abbreviated season with only 10 episodes this time around?
Yeah, I think it was a mistake. I think HBO must've thought it was a mistake when the writers strike came along as well. [Laughs] There was no question, I felt it most in the first three episodes where my character had to cover a lot of ground to get into the story line. A lot of shortcuts had to be made where had we 13 hours I think would've been played out more thoroughly. Again, he did an amazing job, but he always had 13 in mind and had to lose three hours somehow.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
In re: a movie, I think The Wire would have an audience somewhere between the X-Files movie and the Firefly movie (Serenity)
I think the Twin Peaks movie is the best the studios could hope for- is that worth it for them? How did that movie do?
I think the Twin Peaks movie is the best the studios could hope for- is that worth it for them? How did that movie do?
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I think the enticement of a movie over a network picking them up is an additional zero at the end of their paychecks.
Your Mother
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avoiding injuries
Footballguy
Ah ha! I wonder why they never went into this, or did they?
NYRAGE
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http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2008/03/the_wire_..._simon_q_a.html
I was talking more about more stories with these particular characters. There's clearly, at least based on the last names and the bios on the HBO website, a connection between Randy and Cheese (NOTE: the bios essentially state that Cheese is Randy's dad, a fact Simon would publicly confirm a few days after we spoke), and that's something you never really got into on the show.
Actually, that is something that we were going to play a little bit of that and reference that in season five if we had had a little bit more room. But ultimately it would have been incremental. It would not have added to the overall theme or to either of those characterizations of Cheese or Randy. It would not have resolved in any unique way that would have revealed anything more about the character than we otherwise revealed. It would have just been more story and more scenes. So at a certain point, on a practical basis, you have to ask what you're accomplishing if you go further
I was talking more about more stories with these particular characters. There's clearly, at least based on the last names and the bios on the HBO website, a connection between Randy and Cheese (NOTE: the bios essentially state that Cheese is Randy's dad, a fact Simon would publicly confirm a few days after we spoke), and that's something you never really got into on the show.
Actually, that is something that we were going to play a little bit of that and reference that in season five if we had had a little bit more room. But ultimately it would have been incremental. It would not have added to the overall theme or to either of those characterizations of Cheese or Randy. It would not have resolved in any unique way that would have revealed anything more about the character than we otherwise revealed. It would have just been more story and more scenes. So at a certain point, on a practical basis, you have to ask what you're accomplishing if you go further
corpcow
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Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Was watching the episode from last season where McNulty comes home at 1 AM and gets caught by his girl using mouthwash in the bathroom to cover up the smell of him drinking. She makes the comment that he always smells like Listerine and Jameson.
Being the smart cop he is why not keep a bottle of mouthwash in his car? I know girls IRL who are smart enough to do this so how isn't McNutty?
Being the smart cop he is why not keep a bottle of mouthwash in his car? I know girls IRL who are smart enough to do this so how isn't McNutty?
whitem0nkey
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I have never watched the show so i never read this thread, so sorry if its been already said, but on HBO on demand they will be soon beginning with season 1. I cant wait to catch up on this.
the moops
Footballguy
Because he is an ### and a drunk.
Dexter Manley
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For those of you who have been watching March Madness, Joey Dorsey of Memphis is from West Baltimore, straight out of The Wire territory. 4realz.
Moe Green
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awesome
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