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And for some reason the Bears traded the #11 overall pick for him after those 4 years.This was who I was going to post about.You could make the argument that Rick Mirer was the worst QB to play for every team that he was on.
4 years with the Seahawks, 3 of those with more INTs than TDs. 20-31 record. Could NOT throw to his left.
And we used the #2 overall pick on him.
Lot's of crowing, I don't see any truth though.Walking Boot said:He's horrible at everything.Zow said:oh come onEli Manning
He's like a poker player who goes all-in every time he gets ace-jack offsuit. Sure, it beats a few hands that may call you, but you gotta have a horseshoe up your #### and over time it's not the best idea. Asante Samuel catches one of his patented high-pressure INTs and he may not even be the QB on the team right now.
He's the living embodiment of "it's better to be lucky than good."
He only played 3 games for the Cowboys and nobody likes the Chargers.Big Score said:Surprised Ryan Leaf hasn't gotten a mention.
My gawdAnthony Wright, Ravens
4 Touchdowns, 1 game
Scott Bull is 1a, but Tim Rattay is 1b. Hated Rattay with a passion.A Niners fan my age might be tempted to go with Shaun Hill, or JT O'Sullivan, perhaps even Trent Dilfer? Colin Kaepernick, if you want to go for the yuk-yuks.
But Scott Bull pretty much laps the field here. Sub 40% completionn percentage, 3 lifetime TD's against 17 INT's. 5.4 yards per attempt. This, his only "win", might be the most depressing thing I've ever seen. Here's a summary from Wikipedia:
Week 15: at San Francisco 49ers[edit] 1 2 3 4 Total Buccaneers 0 3 0 0 3 49ers 0 3 0 3 6
December 10, 1978 at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, California
In a meeting between the NFLs two worst offenses, the San Francisco 49ers Ray Wersching kicked a fourth-quarter field goal to win the first game in which the Buccaneer defense held their opposition without a touchdown.[99] The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks, and scored no touchdowns. McKay was so upset that he cancelled his regular press conference the Monday following the game, and indicated that he would not be present at his Friday press conference.[100] The 49ers fumbled six times, were intercepted twice, and allowed five sacks. Mark Cotneys 28-yard interception return set up Tampa Bays only score, a 35-yard Dave Green field goal. The previous weeks injury to Neil O'Donoghue became an issue, as Greens limited range prevented the Buccaneers from attempting potential game-winning or -tying field goals.[101]Bill Kollar started and led the team in tackles for the second week in a row. The boredom of the game was such that one of the coaches spoke of setting himself on fire on the sideline, prompting a Buccaneer publicist to request that the team band be ready to play You Light Up My Life.[102]
Yes Lindley is by far the worst QB that I have seen in recent years. And that 2012 game between the Cards and Jets with Lindley vs. Sanchez was the worst combined QB play I have ever seen in one game.Not my team, but the worst quarterbacking I've seen was Ryan Lindley. Not surprisingly, the stats are horrible. In 2012, he went 1-3 with 0 TD and 7 Int. In three of the four starts Arizona had under 200 yards total offense. He got two more starts in 2014 and was slightly better, 2 TD and 4 Int.
I don't see how Shaun Hill could even be in the conversation. He played pretty well for us.A Niners fan my age might be tempted to go with Shaun Hill
That was the first NFL game I ever attended!!! I was 5 years old and didn't realize the historical ineptitude I was witnessing. I just knew that my dad got Niners tickets for free very easily in those dark years, and I was all for it.But Scott Bull pretty much laps the field here. Sub 40% completionn percentage, 3 lifetime TD's against 17 INT's. 5.4 yards per attempt. This, his only "win", might be the most depressing thing I've ever seen. Here's a summary from Wikipedia:
Week 15: at San Francisco 49ers[SIZE=small][edit][/SIZE] 1 2 3 4 Total Buccaneers 0 3 0 0 3 49ers 0 3 0 3 6December 10, 1978 at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, California
In a meeting between the NFL’s two worst offenses, the San Francisco 49ers’ Ray Wersching kicked a fourth-quarter field goal to win the first game in which the Buccaneer defense held their opposition without a touchdown.[99] The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks, and scored no touchdowns. McKay was so upset that he cancelled his regular press conference the Monday following the game, and indicated that he would not be present at his Friday press conference.[100] The 49ers fumbled six times, were intercepted twice, and allowed five sacks. Mark Cotney’s 28-yard interception return set up Tampa Bay’s only score, a 35-yard Dave Green field goal. The previous week’s injury to Neil O'Donoghue became an issue, as Green’s limited range prevented the Buccaneers from attempting potential game-winning or -tying field goals.[101]Bill Kollar started and led the team in tackles for the second week in a row. The boredom of the game was such that one of the coaches spoke of setting himself on fire on the sideline, prompting a Buccaneer publicist to request that the team band be ready to play “You Light Up My Life”.[102]
"The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks"A Niners fan my age might be tempted to go with Shaun Hill, or JT O'Sullivan, perhaps even Trent Dilfer? Colin Kaepernick, if you want to go for the yuk-yuks.
But Scott Bull pretty much laps the field here. Sub 40% completionn percentage, 3 lifetime TD's against 17 INT's. 5.4 yards per attempt. This, his only "win", might be the most depressing thing I've ever seen. Here's a summary from Wikipedia:
Week 15: at San Francisco 49ers[edit] 1 2 3 4 Total Buccaneers 0 3 0 0 3 49ers 0 3 0 3 6
December 10, 1978 at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, California
In a meeting between the NFLs two worst offenses, the San Francisco 49ers Ray Wersching kicked a fourth-quarter field goal to win the first game in which the Buccaneer defense held their opposition without a touchdown.[99] The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks, and scored no touchdowns. McKay was so upset that he cancelled his regular press conference the Monday following the game, and indicated that he would not be present at his Friday press conference.[100] The 49ers fumbled six times, were intercepted twice, and allowed five sacks. Mark Cotneys 28-yard interception return set up Tampa Bays only score, a 35-yard Dave Green field goal. The previous weeks injury to Neil O'Donoghue became an issue, as Greens limited range prevented the Buccaneers from attempting potential game-winning or -tying field goals.[101]Bill Kollar started and led the team in tackles for the second week in a row. The boredom of the game was such that one of the coaches spoke of setting himself on fire on the sideline, prompting a Buccaneer publicist to request that the team band be ready to play You Light Up My Life.[102]
He also showed up fat and out of shape when he reported to The Biggest Loser.Scott Mitchell, and it's not even close. Detroit is still trying to recover from putting the franchise in his clammy hands.
He had one good year in his career (which ended in an epic playoff collapse and childish sideline tantrum when he was pulled), and never achieved anything ever again. Faked injuries whenever the pressure became too much for him by actually laying down on the field as though he was having a heart attack (happened once in Minnesota and once at Tampa during a playoff game--in Minny he eventually just got up and finished the game, and in Tampa he walked from the ambulance into the hospital under his own power after being carted out of Tampa Stadium). He undermined his own coach, showed up fat and out of shape every year, and eventually left Detroit as one of the most hated athletes in the history of the city. Just a gutless sack of crap from start to finish.
He had more physical talent than many on this list. But when it comes to lack of character and competitive drive, I have never seen another quarterback worse than Scott Mitchell, and I hope I never do (well, unless he's signed by the Vikings to play alongside Adrian Peterson, that is. I'd be ok with that).
Yes. Ironically, he was in relatively the same shape for the show as he was for most of his Lions career. Not ironically at all, he didn't end up winning anything on that show, either.He also showed up fat and out of shape when he reported to The Biggest Loser.Scott Mitchell, and it's not even close. Detroit is still trying to recover from putting the franchise in his clammy hands.
He had one good year in his career (which ended in an epic playoff collapse and childish sideline tantrum when he was pulled), and never achieved anything ever again. Faked injuries whenever the pressure became too much for him by actually laying down on the field as though he was having a heart attack (happened once in Minnesota and once at Tampa during a playoff game--in Minny he eventually just got up and finished the game, and in Tampa he walked from the ambulance into the hospital under his own power after being carted out of Tampa Stadium). He undermined his own coach, showed up fat and out of shape every year, and eventually left Detroit as one of the most hated athletes in the history of the city. Just a gutless sack of crap from start to finish.
He had more physical talent than many on this list. But when it comes to lack of character and competitive drive, I have never seen another quarterback worse than Scott Mitchell, and I hope I never do (well, unless he's signed by the Vikings to play alongside Adrian Peterson, that is. I'd be ok with that).
Marc Wilson is the answer. Guy pooped himself in that Pats/Raiders playoff game during the first SB run, then the Pats go and sign his washed up ### from LA? Guy had no heart. I knew the 1990 season was over before it started.NE had a horrific stretch in the late 80s to early 90s, from the end of Berry to Rod Rust to **** McPherson ( the dark ages ended by Savior Bill Parcells ).
The QBs during that stretch were among the worst I recall seeing. It's really hard to pick just 1.
110 year old Steve Grogan ( who I loved as a kid - one tough SOB and in no way the worst QB for the Pats )
Marc Wilson
Hugh Millen
Tom Hodson
Scott Zolak
Jeff Carlson*
Scott Secules*
* Carlson only started 2 and Secules only 4, but I wanted to give a taste of how awesome those years were.
From ( admittedly hazy ) memory, I'd have to select Wilson or Millen as the worst of the crew.
Curious if Renter was more a half-back option type of deal. Dude is pretty hard to google. Certainly one of the best NFL names ever.Here is one version of the "leaderboard", going back to 1969.
Here is another version, if you want to go back to the beginning and pick out the worst passer. Leading the way is the Boston Redskins' Pug Rentner, who threw 26 completions and 24 interceptions from 1934-1936.
I'd go with Klingler only b/c I knew there was 100% chance he'd fail. With Akili it was only a 98% chance.David Klingler and Akili Smith - tossup. Too depressed to look at the statistics.
I have to agree - comically bad. The Cardinals were better off just going with direct snaps to the half back.Yes Lindley is by far the worst QB that I have seen in recent years. And that 2012 game between the Cards and Jets with Lindley vs. Sanchez was the worst combined QB play I have ever seen in one game.Not my team, but the worst quarterbacking I've seen was Ryan Lindley. Not surprisingly, the stats are horrible. In 2012, he went 1-3 with 0 TD and 7 Int. In three of the four starts Arizona had under 200 yards total offense. He got two more starts in 2014 and was slightly better, 2 TD and 4 Int.
Did he have 5 starts? I was thinking Brodie Croyle.Gonna go with Tyler Palko.
Max Hall was way worse.Toss up between Derek Andersen or Matt Leinart. For the money we paid him, Leinart wins. The cards have has some terrible starting QB's, mostly due to injury, in the past.
ETA: Leinart stats (four years) with the Cards: 57% completion, 14 TD' s vs 19 Int's - Career QBR 53, 34, 54 & 48. Fitz should be considered for the HOF because he was able to put up numbers despite 4 years in his prime wasted by this flop.
FWIW Pro-Football Reference sez Scott Mitchell was the worst (he started exactly 5 games for us) - the numbers are pretty bad. But we won two of the games. So can't go away from the big 2.I'd go with Klingler only b/c I knew there was 100% chance he'd fail. With Akili it was only a 98% chance.David Klingler and Akili Smith - tossup. Too depressed to look at the statistics.
-QG
I don't understand the single wing offense very well. In those days, teams often had about 4 players who threw the ball at least once per game, and it wasn't unusual for the guy who led the team in passing to also lead the team in rushing.Curious if Renter was more a half-back option type of deal. Dude is pretty hard to google. Certainly one of the best NFL names ever.Here is one version of the "leaderboard", going back to 1969.
Here is another version, if you want to go back to the beginning and pick out the worst passer. Leading the way is the Boston Redskins' Pug Rentner, who threw 26 completions and 24 interceptions from 1934-1936.
-QG
Right with yu, and I said it when we signed him, (1 good game for Miami in relief and Detroit grabs him)Scott Mitchell, and it's not even close. Detroit is still trying to recover from putting the franchise in his clammy hands.
He had one good year in his career (which ended in an epic playoff collapse and childish sideline tantrum when he was pulled), and never achieved anything ever again. Faked injuries whenever the pressure became too much for him by actually laying down on the field as though he was having a heart attack (happened once in Minnesota and once at Tampa during a playoff game--in Minny he eventually just got up and finished the game, and in Tampa he walked from the ambulance into the hospital under his own power after being carted out of Tampa Stadium). He undermined his own coach, showed up fat and out of shape every year, and eventually left Detroit as one of the most hated athletes in the history of the city. Just a gutless sack of crap from start to finish.
He had more physical talent than many on this list. But when it comes to lack of character and competitive drive, I have never seen another quarterback worse than Scott Mitchell, and I hope I never do (well, unless he's signed by the Vikings to play alongside Adrian Peterson, that is. I'd be ok with that
Sporting news agrees Tupan was the worst Cards QB ever. http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/4654572-nfl-worst-starting-quarterbacks-qbs-all-time-draft-busts/slide/352729Hall and Lindley were absolutely much worse than Tupa. Tupa's numbers were a bit below league average, but not exceptionally so- basically within one standard deviation across the board. He averaged 4.10 adjusted net yards per pass in 1991, for instance.The Cardinals had an absolutely horrific 3 years from 2010-2012. Here's the list of every QB starting for them in those three years:
Derek Anderson
John Skelton
Max Hall
Kevin Kolb
Ryan Lindley
Brian Hoyer
It is really hard to root for a team that rolls out that ridiculousness for three straight years.
But none of them were as bad as Tom Tupa back in the early '90's. In his "big" season, he started 11 games and threw 6 TD's and 13 picks. He was actually a decent punter, but an absolutely horrible QB.
Max Hall averaged 0.33. On a team with Larry Fitzgerald. He's the worst QB I've seen if you abolish the 5-start minimum. (And Lindley is the worst if you keep the minimum.)
Edit: Kolb, Skelton, Anderson, and Hoyer were bad, but just of the "garden variety bad" type, not the "historically awful" type.
I saw something like that in a High School game one time and that was really hard to watch. Can't imagine it in a pro game."The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks"A Niners fan my age might be tempted to go with Shaun Hill, or JT O'Sullivan, perhaps even Trent Dilfer? Colin Kaepernick, if you want to go for the yuk-yuks.
But Scott Bull pretty much laps the field here. Sub 40% completionn percentage, 3 lifetime TD's against 17 INT's. 5.4 yards per attempt. This, his only "win", might be the most depressing thing I've ever seen. Here's a summary from Wikipedia:
Week 15: at San Francisco 49ers[edit] 1 2 3 4 Total Buccaneers 0 3 0 0 3 49ers 0 3 0 3 6
December 10, 1978 at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, California
In a meeting between the NFLs two worst offenses, the San Francisco 49ers Ray Wersching kicked a fourth-quarter field goal to win the first game in which the Buccaneer defense held their opposition without a touchdown.[99] The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks, and scored no touchdowns. McKay was so upset that he cancelled his regular press conference the Monday following the game, and indicated that he would not be present at his Friday press conference.[100] The 49ers fumbled six times, were intercepted twice, and allowed five sacks. Mark Cotneys 28-yard interception return set up Tampa Bays only score, a 35-yard Dave Green field goal. The previous weeks injury to Neil O'Donoghue became an issue, as Greens limited range prevented the Buccaneers from attempting potential game-winning or -tying field goals.[101]Bill Kollar started and led the team in tackles for the second week in a row. The boredom of the game was such that one of the coaches spoke of setting himself on fire on the sideline, prompting a Buccaneer publicist to request that the team band be ready to play You Light Up My Life.[102]
How is that even possible in a single game??
Someone else nominated him, I expanded on him in page 2. Dude had the QB equivalent of below the Mendoza line stats.Any Falcons fans remember Kim McQuilken?
Started 7 games from 1974-76 and had a negative AY/A (career -0.3 AY/A) and 3 TD's to 28 INT's.
As a Bears fan, I can't possibly pick just one.
I let this go when I first read it, but its been bothering me every time I notice this thread. This is the worst post in the thread. Mirer wasn't good, but he set the NFL rookie record for attempts, completions, and yards. To suggest he was worse than the 1992 trio of losers under center for Seattle is pure ignorance.You could make the argument that Rick Mirer was the worst QB to play for every team that he was on.
Pretty dominant in 1977 thoughAny Falcons fans remember Kim McQuilken?
Started 7 games from 1974-76 and had a negative AY/A (career -0.3 AY/A) and 3 TD's to 28 INT's.
Here's the box score for that game.I saw something like that in a High School game one time and that was really hard to watch. Can't imagine it in a pro game."The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks"A Niners fan my age might be tempted to go with Shaun Hill, or JT O'Sullivan, perhaps even Trent Dilfer? Colin Kaepernick, if you want to go for the yuk-yuks.
But Scott Bull pretty much laps the field here. Sub 40% completionn percentage, 3 lifetime TD's against 17 INT's. 5.4 yards per attempt. This, his only "win", might be the most depressing thing I've ever seen. Here's a summary from Wikipedia:
Week 15: at San Francisco 49ers[edit] 1 2 3 4 Total Buccaneers 0 3 0 0 3 49ers 0 3 0 3 6
December 10, 1978 at Candlestick Park, San Francisco, California
In a meeting between the NFLs two worst offenses, the San Francisco 49ers Ray Wersching kicked a fourth-quarter field goal to win the first game in which the Buccaneer defense held their opposition without a touchdown.[99] The Buccaneers committed ten fumbles, were intercepted five times, allowed eleven sacks, and scored no touchdowns. McKay was so upset that he cancelled his regular press conference the Monday following the game, and indicated that he would not be present at his Friday press conference.[100] The 49ers fumbled six times, were intercepted twice, and allowed five sacks. Mark Cotneys 28-yard interception return set up Tampa Bays only score, a 35-yard Dave Green field goal. The previous weeks injury to Neil O'Donoghue became an issue, as Greens limited range prevented the Buccaneers from attempting potential game-winning or -tying field goals.[101]Bill Kollar started and led the team in tackles for the second week in a row. The boredom of the game was such that one of the coaches spoke of setting himself on fire on the sideline, prompting a Buccaneer publicist to request that the team band be ready to play You Light Up My Life.[102]
How is that even possible in a single game??
I think I may just amend this to Ryan Mallett. As much as Carr was an easy target for how long they drew out the inevitable, his teammates at least liked him.David Carr. Everyone always notes that the Texans' lines ruined him but the fans saw him as a sunk cost years before management did. He ended up only winning 22 games in his five years.
Not nearly as bad as Kent Nix. In his BEST year he had 8 TDs, 19 Ints and a QB rating of 49.5.Cliff Stoudt
Yep ... ThisYou probably aren't old enough to remember Scott Brunner. He was really, really terrible.Haven't seen a (serious) response with the Giants, let me give some thought.
Can't speak from pre-simms, so has to be one of Dave Brown, Kent Graham or Danny Kanell.
Without looking into it more, I'd go Kanell, but those guys were like interchangeable suckitude for like 3 years or so in the '90s.
ETA: Yeah, just noticed the bolded.
No bump tonight?
It says something about the long history of bad Bears QBs that Cade McNown and Chad Hutchinson haven't even gotten a mention yet. (So I will add them to the mix.)As a Bears fan, I can't possibly pick just one.
Davey O'Brien anyone? Too long ago for me, but those stats are horrific!Bobby Hoying still makes me throw up in my mouth.Requiring 5 starts, it would have to be Koy Detmer for me and the Eagles, although there have probably been worse at some point before I was paying attention
He's beaten the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl.Seriously, Eli is cover-your-eyes awful.