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there goes A.Pittmans future value .. claimed by Rams .. (1 Viewer)

Sanboy

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there goes any future value of A.Pittman -- that is the toilet you hear flushing . and yes i know guys like M>Turner have value behind a stud like Tomlinson .. but Pittman will be a very long time before he is heard from now ...

A.Pittman was claimed by the Rams .. article says Bengals put in for him as well ( which would have been a great fit )

but Rams got him on strength of scheduale from last year ( they were both tied 8 - 8 )

so now Pittman is

behind

S.Jackson and Brian Leaonard ...

i was one of the biggiest Pittman supporters .. but now that he is behind one of the best up and coming Rb's ..

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...3A?OpenDocument

DYNASTY LEAGUE GUYS ... time to waive him ????

 
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Sanboy said:
A.Pittman was claimed by the Rams .. article says Bengals put in for him as well ( which would have been a great fit )

but Rams got him on strength of scheduale from last year ( they were both tied 8 - 8 )

so now Pittman is

behind

S.Jackson and Brian Leaonard ...

i was one of the biggiest Pittman supporters .. but now that he is behind one of the best up and coming Rb's ..

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Who is in turn behind the 2nd best RB (at worst) in the league for years to come. Welcome to Michael Turner Wurld.
 
mad sweeney said:
Sanboy said:
A.Pittman was claimed by the Rams .. article says Bengals put in for him as well ( which would have been a great fit )

but Rams got him on strength of scheduale from last year ( they were both tied 8 - 8 )

so now Pittman is

behind

S.Jackson and Brian Leaonard ...

i was one of the biggiest Pittman supporters .. but now that he is behind one of the best up and coming Rb's ..

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Who is in turn behind the 2nd best RB (at worst) in the league for years to come. Welcome to Michael Turner Wurld.
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Coach Linehan is completely enamored with Brian Leonard. Pittman will be the third fiddle, at best, in St. Louis...
 
no argument from me with that statement .. at best .. at best he is # 3 for years and years to come .....

hence why i said ... its about time to cut bait even as dynasty owners .

unless you have S.Jackson of course

 
yea you can cut him, the same could have been said even if he stayed in N.O. imo....bengals would have been nice...

 
So is behind Deuce and Reggie that much different than Sjax and Leonard? He doesn't have starting RB talent no matter what team he is on. Just my .02

 
Saints was nice . because DUECE most likely will be gone next year and Pittman could have possibly taken DEUCE's roll

but with the Rams .. there is no ROLL .. at all

 
Sanboy said:
Saints was nice . because DUECE most likely will be gone next year and Pittman could have possibly taken DEUCE's roll but with the Rams .. there is no ROLL .. at all
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Gotya...didn't know Deuce would be gone. I wonder why the Rams picked him up? Seems strange....maybe he can play linebacker :goodposting:
 
yes Deuce's contract and age will be a major factor come next off-season ... not many expect him back . and that is whay the pittman drafting seemed like a good idea ..

but as you say .. very wierd signing from the Rams.. Bengals would have been NICEEEEE

 
Maybe not so fast...

Rotoworld seems to think that Pittman may take over as the RB2 behind Jackson...

Rams claimed RB Antonio Pittman off waivers from New Orleans.

Pittman is immediately a threat to current second-string back Brian Leonard's carries. The rookie from Ohio State will not be a major contributor on special teams, so it's clear the Rams think Pittman is a viable offensive weapon. It will take Pittman a few weeks to get used to the offense, but his addition leaves Steven Jackson without a clear handcuff.
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even if that does happen .. WHO CARES ...

he is the # 2 or # 3 behind S.Jackson ..

maybe i am crazy ... for thinking that ..

 
Crew Love said:
Maybe not so fast...

Rotoworld seems to think that Pittman may take over as the RB2 behind Jackson...

Rams claimed RB Antonio Pittman off waivers from New Orleans.

Pittman is immediately a threat to current second-string back Brian Leonard's carries. The rookie from Ohio State will not be a major contributor on special teams, so it's clear the Rams think Pittman is a viable offensive weapon. It will take Pittman a few weeks to get used to the offense, but his addition leaves Steven Jackson without a clear handcuff.
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I seriously doubt he would affect Leonard's spot at all. The coaching staff LOVES him.
 
if it wasn't for Bennett I would say line him up at WR, still another offensive weapon, the rams look solid in those positions

 
N.O uses a 2 RB system ..

and with Deuce possibly leaving next year .. PITTMAN would have been the # 2 in that system

Rams use a one Rb system .. and the main guy is 24 years old with a # 2 rd pick who is 22 years old ..

seems to be a worse situation

 
What happens when SJax goes down with an injury and he is splitting carries at worst with Leonard? The Rams are pretty high octane and there are at least 20 other NFL teams where he could be in a worse situation as the RB2/3.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
What happens when SJax goes down with an injury and he is splitting carries at worst with Leonard? The Rams are pretty high octane and there are at least 20 other NFL teams where he could be in a worse situation as the RB2/3.
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Agreed. If anything, this hurts Leonard's value.
 
If you were going to hang on to him when he was on the Saints you couldn't have been counting on him to do much this year anyways. Why not continue to hang on to him and see where he is after this year?

 
Sanboy said:
N.O uses a 2 RB system ..

and with Deuce possibly leaving next year .. PITTMAN would have been the # 2 in that system

Rams use a one Rb system .. and the main guy is 24 years old with a # 2 rd pick who is 22 years old ..

seems to be a worse situation
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Because they have 2 very good RBs who complement each other. That doesn't mean they won't change if Duece were not there.
 
what are you talking about .. doesnt mean who wont change

BUSH will never be able to carry a full load .. the Saints will be RBBC as long as bush is there .. btu thats doesnt really matter ..

we are talking pittman

 
OK, I'm not saying Pittman replaces SJax. Now, my question is when does Sjax's cotnract come up? Is it possible the franchise is trying to line themselves up to have a full stable of horses, so they don't have to sign Sjax to MONSTOR numbers at that time? Thus, they have Leonard and Pittman to take over? Maybe, the value was just too good to pass up.

 
Crew Love said:
Maybe not so fast...

Rotoworld seems to think that Pittman may take over as the RB2 behind Jackson...

Rams claimed RB Antonio Pittman off waivers from New Orleans.

Pittman is immediately a threat to current second-string back Brian Leonard's carries. The rookie from Ohio State will not be a major contributor on special teams, so it's clear the Rams think Pittman is a viable offensive weapon. It will take Pittman a few weeks to get used to the offense, but his addition leaves Steven Jackson without a clear handcuff.
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no way he passes up Leonard. He got cut for a reason and Leonard has been lighting it up. He is the much more talented back of the two
 
The STL coaching staff have always referred Leonard as a Moe Williams type. Not fantastic at one thing, but does a little of everything good. Maybe to keep him in that role of Mr. Everything, they want another RB. Thus, Leonard not looked at as a natural handcuff. I'm drawing conclusions here, but then again...I could have pulled the rabbit out of the hat.

 
Bizkiteer said:
The STL coaching staff have always referred Leonard as a Moe Williams type. Not fantastic at one thing, but does a little of everything good. Maybe to keep him in that role of Mr. Everything, they want another RB. Thus, Leonard not looked at as a natural handcuff. I'm drawing conclusions here, but then again...I could have pulled the rabbit out of the hat.
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But what does the depth chart say :goodposting:
 
I read somewhere that the Rams were considering Pittman in the second round instead of Leonard. I know it's been a couple of months, but Pittman was projected to go somewhere in the range the Rams were picking.

This seems to me to be nothing more than the Rams having an opportunity to hedge their bets. They took Leonard, and are happy with him, but now they have both guys they were considering. But people are forgetting that Pittman was never regarded as an every-down back in the NFL. He's more of a situational, third-down type back. Given an opportunity to potentially upgrade over Rich Alexis, the Rams rolled the dice.

Personally, I don't think he's that good. Leonard is, and has shown it during camp. I see no reason to believe that all of a sudden, Pittman is going to catch up and pass Leonard on the depth chart. Perhaps next year, if he sticks around, with a full camp. I think people still see a guy who led Ohio State in rushing and another guy who was a RB/FB hybrid at Rutgers and still can't accept that the Rutgers guy is just a better football player.

 
I never regarded Pittman as a possible replacement for Duece. I projected him as more of a replacement for soon to be 32-year old Aaron Stecker, but apparently Stecker brings more to the table.

 
Interesting note: Heard on Sirius that Only TWO teams even put in a waiver request for him. Rams and Cinci.

 
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i dont think you need a link to make that conclusion
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I'm not so sure. I think the Rams would like to keep Leonard at FB. If Pittman was released because of a numbers game, it would be foolish to just discard his chances if Jackson went down (knock on wood that doesn't happen).
 
TheWick said:
Bizkiteer said:
The STL coaching staff have always referred Leonard as a Moe Williams type. Not fantastic at one thing, but does a little of everything good. Maybe to keep him in that role of Mr. Everything, they want another RB. Thus, Leonard not looked at as a natural handcuff. I'm drawing conclusions here, but then again...I could have pulled the rabbit out of the hat.
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But what does the depth chart say :rolleyes:
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I don't know wtf the rolleyes is for. My post is speculation and not written as it's fact. There also have been plenty of situations where a players is listed as #2 on a team, but when injury comes...the #3 is inserted into the role. It's because teams run packages and players are better suited for roles in certain overall schemes. Also considering that IF their plan was that, Pittman just got there...so of course it would be awhile until he gets up to speed on their offense.Maybe if you read and thought before writting, you would have the ability to actually contribute with your posting. Then again, it's easier just to make silly (being polite) comments and use smilies.
 
Billy1x said:
Interesting note: Heard on Sirius that Only TWO teams even put in a waiver request for him. Rams and Cinci.
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I believe when a player is picked up off waviers, the new team assumes the contract. If he cleared waivers, any team would have been able to sign him to their own terms. For what it's worth, that might part of the reasoning.
 
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
So the fact that he was only a 4th rounder and subsequently cut was not a negative to his dynasty value? Seems that did the most damage.
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I would say that it sure doesn't bode well, but then again stranger things have happend. Q. Moses was lined up to be a starter for OAK and was taken in the 3rd round, he was cut and coudl very well start for ARZ now. Long story short, it's a not a great thing to happen, but if another team had a player rated well or fairly high...then they viewed that player as a fit in their system. It could still work out for him, but surely not a plus for a dynasty owner.
 
As a previous poster stated, I'm holding on to him in my dynasty league, as I wasn't expecting much from him in NO this year either.

Certainly would've preferred to see him land in Cincy than in STL though... :goodposting:

 
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