There Will Be Blood - How Great? (1 Viewer)

[Nipsey]

It's free on YouTube (Premium?) right now. I've watched it 5-6 time in the last few weeks.

Greatest movie this Century?

 

[Nipsey]

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[FarFromHome]

I still quote the i drink your milkshake line. Classic

 

[Major]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I was just watching it last night - I say one of the best ever, and certainly one of the best of that decade, which gets 10/10 on my rating scale.

 

[KarmaPolice]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

It’s as close to being with the greatest ever as you can but I voted really really good. I think I did that because of the dark nature of the film. I have to be in the mood to watch it or it just has to be on as I’m sitting down.

As much as I love it personally, I would have to pass up on quite a few movies before I chose this.

 

[Major]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

 

[KarmaPolice]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

 

[Ilov80s]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I’ve only seen it on my smartwatch. Is that bad?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

 

[Major]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

 

[Zow]

Went with really, really good. The movie is obviously well-made and well-acted but it runs a bit long and is a bit nihilistic. And, frankly, when I generally think in my head "what's the greatest movie ever" this movie does not cross my mind.

 

[Major]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I’ve only seen it on my smartwatch. Is that bad?

1917 was meant to be viewed on a smartwatch. Thrilling experience

 

[Joey Wright]

My vote for greatest movie of the 21st Century (so far)

 

[Todem]

MEH.

 

[Zow]

My vote for greatest movie of the 21st Century (so far)

Eh, I still immediately think the following are better for 21st century films:

The Dark Knight
Parasite
Get Out
No Country for Old Men
Zodiac
Spotlight
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

 

[SWC]

i liked it but i still think lewises best movie is lincoln he was just amazing heck i also think this would be about on par with gangs of new york for me basically he is a great actor and you cant really go wrong take that to the bank bromigos

 

[dickey moe]

9/10 - the constant background music facilitates the tension

 

[KarmaPolice]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

We just disagree. I go back to your first post and the use of the word enhanced.

i don't care how good people's setup is at home, it is not theater level. Imo it matters a lot where and how you watch movies.

 

[El Floppo]

My vote for greatest movie of the 21st Century (so far)

Eh, I still immediately think the following are better for 21st century films:

The Dark Knight
Parasite
Get Out
No Country for Old Men
Zodiac
Spotlight
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

The Lives of Others ftw imo

 

[Ilov80s]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

We just disagree. I go back to your first post and the use of the word enhanced.

i don't care how good people's setup is at home, it is not theater level. Imo it matters a lot where and how you watch movies.

I agree, all movies are better in the theater. Some moreso.

 

[Ilov80s]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

I am not a big Dano fan and he’s the weakest part of the movie for me but I think it’s a masterpiece and don’t see schmaltz. I am going to do a ranking of best movies of the first quarter of the century this summer and I don’t know where it will land but TWBB is going to land pretty high.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I liked the first half despite the odd soundtrack.
But the second half stopped making sense and just dragged into weirdness.
The performances are excellent, though.

 

[KarmaPolice]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

We just disagree. I go back to your first post and the use of the word enhanced.

i don't care how good people's setup is at home, it is not theater level. Imo it matters a lot where and how you watch movies.

I agree, all movies are better in the theater. Some moreso.

Which is probably what major was getting at. For me the genre or style is irrelevant. Even dramas and comedies without f/x and sweeping epic shots are still to be seen in the theater as time and money allows. We also geek out about the minutia of the movies more than most as well.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

I am not a big Dano fan and he’s the weakest part of the movie for me but I think it’s a masterpiece and don’t see schmaltz. I am going to do a ranking of best movies of the first quarter of the century this summer and I don’t know where it will land but TWBB is going to land pretty high.

I didn't get the schmaltz comment either, but the Dano scenes, especially his sermons, was what came to mind when I read Andy's post. Also, they are that way for a reason. PTA has a pretty odd sense of humor and my read on the movie is that he views both characters as a bit of a joke. Both are performing for others most times, so there is a cartoonish delivery to their lines in those scenes.

Great idea for a list. I've been meaning to do similar since the first one of those I started was something like the "best" 50 movies of 2010+ about 10 years ago. It wasn't an all inclusive list and I have watched others so it would be fun to see how my rankings would look now. My #1 was Her, but again that didn't include 2000-2009. My top on that list was Eternal Sunshine. Not sure either of those would be my top movies now, but certainly would be very high up there.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I liked the first half despite the odd soundtrack.
But the second half stopped making sense and just dragged into weirdness.
The performances are excellent, though.

What didn't make sense?

 

[Joey Wright]

My vote for greatest movie of the 21st Century (so far)

Eh, I still immediately think the following are better for 21st century films:

The Dark Knight
Parasite
Get Out
No Country for Old Men
Zodiac
Spotlight
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

I am huge fan of the south korean film industry. The night Parasite won best picture was the greatest Oscars night of my life. i was getting phone calls like I had won. Haha.

What a year as well. Parasite, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Midsommar... just a great year!

 

[The Gator]

Midsommar

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

I am not a big Dano fan and he’s the weakest part of the movie for me but I think it’s a masterpiece and don’t see schmaltz. I am going to do a ranking of best movies of the first quarter of the century this summer and I don’t know where it will land but TWBB is going to land pretty high.

I didn't get the schmaltz comment either, but the Dano scenes, especially his sermons, was what came to mind when I read Andy's post. Also, they are that way for a reason. PTA has a pretty odd sense of humor and my read on the movie is that he views both characters as a bit of a joke. Both are performing for others most times, so there is a cartoonish delivery to their lines in those scenes.

Great idea for a list. I've been meaning to do similar since the first one of those I started was something like the "best" 50 movies of 2010+ about 10 years ago. It wasn't an all inclusive list and I have watched others so it would be fun to see how my rankings would look now. My #1 was Her, but again that didn't include 2000-2009. My top on that list was Eternal Sunshine. Not sure either of those would be my top movies now, but certainly would be very high up there.

There are movies that I've given a fair enough shake to through multiple viewings that I feel confident in my negative opinion, See: The Birds.

This is not one of them. I should give it another try. But now the movie has a bigger Paul Dano problem because I've watched The Fablemans.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

I liked the first half despite the odd soundtrack.
But the second half stopped making sense and just dragged into weirdness.
The performances are excellent, though.

What didn't make sense?

It's been a long time since I've seen it but I recall that the closing scene had me saying WTF?

 

[mr. furley]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

Paul Dano nearly killed that movie for me.

everything else except the scenes with him are fantastic.

 

[dkp993]

Absolutely hated it when it first came out. All the hype over the years had me questioning that opinion so I watched it again in the past year. Reaffirmed my original opinion. It’s awful. The constant running music is like nails on a chalkboard.

The contemporary No Country for Old Men is a masterpiece and blows Blood out of the water imo.

 

[Ilov80s]

I think we are learning here that Paul Dano is not our favorite actor. Not at all.

 

[Ilov80s]

Didn't make much of an impression on me. I probably should give it another chance but am in no hurry.

I thought the performances were cartoonish - similar to how I felt about Gary Oldman in Leon: The Professional.

Can you expand on what you mean here, or give an example? I have a couple scenes in mind, but curious on your take.

Even the trademark "I drink your milkshake" bit was over the top for me. I get that Plainview is this domineering guy and that DDL created the character like all good actors do, but I just found it ridiculously over the top.

And Paul Dano staring doe-eyed into the camera for two plus hours made ME want to steal his milkshake. It was Spielbergian schmaltz.

I am not a big Dano fan and he’s the weakest part of the movie for me but I think it’s a masterpiece and don’t see schmaltz. I am going to do a ranking of best movies of the first quarter of the century this summer and I don’t know where it will land but TWBB is going to land pretty high.

I didn't get the schmaltz comment either, but the Dano scenes, especially his sermons, was what came to mind when I read Andy's post. Also, they are that way for a reason. PTA has a pretty odd sense of humor and my read on the movie is that he views both characters as a bit of a joke. Both are performing for others most times, so there is a cartoonish delivery to their lines in those scenes.

Great idea for a list. I've been meaning to do similar since the first one of those I started was something like the "best" 50 movies of 2010+ about 10 years ago. It wasn't an all inclusive list and I have watched others so it would be fun to see how my rankings would look now. My #1 was Her, but again that didn't include 2000-2009. My top on that list was Eternal Sunshine. Not sure either of those would be my top movies now, but certainly would be very high up there.

We might have to team up again

 

[Major]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

We just disagree. I go back to your first post and the use of the word enhanced.

i don't care how good people's setup is at home, it is not theater level. Imo it matters a lot where and how you watch movies.

I agree, all movies are better in the theater. Some moreso.

Which is probably what major was getting at. For me the genre or style is irrelevant. Even dramas and comedies without f/x and sweeping epic shots are still to be seen in the theater as time and money allows. We also geek out about the minutia of the movies more than most as well.

Pretty much. If I recommend something like Reservoir Dogs, it wont matter where you watch it. I may even argue it's best viewed in the comfort of your own home. 1917 or There Will Be Blood, not so much.

 

[nirad3]

Absolutely hated it when it first came out. All the hype over the years had me questioning that opinion so I watched it again in the past year. Reaffirmed my original opinion. It’s awful. The constant running music is like nails on a chalkboard.

The contemporary No Country for Old Men is a masterpiece and blows Blood out of the water imo.

Funny you should compare them, as I have them in about the same lane. I think I may like No Country a little more, though.

 

[KarmaPolice]

9/10 so I put really, really good. One of those movies that is enhanced on the big screen. Doubt it hits the same on a laptop or 50 inch.

I try not to dock movies too much because of this. IMO that bolded applies to every movie, mostly because of the sound.

I never docked it and I'm mostly talking visually. The oil rig scene is a site to see on a 50 ft+ screen.

Of course it is, but as i said, so are most well made movies. All the best are meant to be seen on the big screen.

If the film doesn't rely on a lot of dramatic scenery or special effects then it's not a big deal where you see it . Plenty of great films dont

We just disagree. I go back to your first post and the use of the word enhanced.

i don't care how good people's setup is at home, it is not theater level. Imo it matters a lot where and how you watch movies.

I agree, all movies are better in the theater. Some moreso.

Which is probably what major was getting at. For me the genre or style is irrelevant. Even dramas and comedies without f/x and sweeping epic shots are still to be seen in the theater as time and money allows. We also geek out about the minutia of the movies more than most as well.

Pretty much. If I recommend something like Reservoir Dogs, it wont matter where you watch it. I may even argue it's best viewed in the comfort of your own home. 1917 or There Will Be Blood, not so much.

Never, but its ok to not agree on this.

A big portion of my stance is that i think its highly unlikely people are watching movies undistracted at home. Maybe im wrong there, but image most on their phones + other stuff going on.

 

[Jayrod]

The Academy got it right, No Country for Old Men is a better movie.

While DDL was slightly better in TWBB than any of them: Bardem, Tommy Lee Jones and Brolin are all 3 magnificent in NCFOM.

 

[Jayrod]

It’s as close to being with the greatest ever as you can but I voted really really good. I think I did that because of the dark nature of the film. I have to be in the mood to watch it or it just has to be on as I’m sitting down.

As much as I love it personally, I would have to pass up on quite a few movies before I chose this.

Similar to this, I also disliked how awful it made me feel. I don't need unicorns and rainbows, but I also don't enjoy films that make me wish God would take back his "no more global floods" promise.

Deer Hunter was like this as well. Quality film, but just too awful to enjoy.

 

[Major]

A big portion of my stance is that i think its highly unlikely people are watching movies undistracted at home. Maybe im wrong there, but image most on their phones + other stuff going on.

The distraction thing is true today but my introduction to Reservoir Dogs was in a college dorm room with friends, snacks and a freshly packed bong. Conditions were perfect

 

[KarmaPolice]

I think we are learning here that Paul Dano is not our favorite actor. Not at all.

I think I might be the lone person who is warmish on him, or at least I have gotten to that point. I think Dano is a good actor and I appreciate his mind when I listen to interview and him talking about movies. I liked him in movies like Little Miss Sunshine and Prisoners. As for Blood, I think it's more about the character being grating and ridiculous. I love the quiet scene with him as Paul when he goes to sell them info on the oil. I think Eli is even more of a fraud than Plainview, and the more I watch the movie the more I am convinced even the character doesn't believe what he is saying. It's all goofy, performative BS like the cheesy TV evangelists to come later.

Also, if I am remembering right - we can basically blame DDL for him in the movie because the actor originally going to play Eli couldn't hang with DDL's madness, so they made the boys twins for the movie.

 

[KarmaPolice]

A big portion of my stance is that i think its highly unlikely people are watching movies undistracted at home. Maybe im wrong there, but image most on their phones + other stuff going on.

The distraction thing is true today but my introduction to Reservoir Dogs was in a college dorm room with friends, snacks and a freshly packed bong. Conditions were perfect

So the distractions was true back then too.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Really, really good. No Country is better though.

 

[brianj74]

Loved it when it came out, still love it now. Day Lewis gives one of the great performances on film. Masterpiece.

 

[encaitar]

My vote for greatest movie of the 21st Century (so far)

Eh, I still immediately think the following are better for 21st century films:

The Dark Knight
Parasite
Get Out
No Country for Old Men
Zodiac
Spotlight
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Good list.

I'd also add
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
12 Years a Slave
The Departed
Pan's Labyrinth

as movies I'd put over TWWB.

I'd have it in the 10-15 range for 21st Century movies.

 

[nightmare]

Meh. I go to movies to be entertained, not be depressed. DDL is great, but still, Meh.
Spotlight, The Big Short, The Post, Margin Call, Moneyball, and No Country are some of the movies
I've watched up to 5-6 times with no desire to see TWWB a third.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Voted Really Really Good

Should have won best picture