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These 3 WRs all got about the same money...MSW/Plax/Roy (1 Viewer)

Which WR wil have the best 2011 season for owners?

  • Mike Sims Walker-St Louis

    Votes: 38 52.8%
  • Plaxico Burress-NY Jets

    Votes: 6 8.3%
  • Roy Williams-Chicago

    Votes: 28 38.9%

  • Total voters
    72

Ministry of Pain

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All 3 of them are on new teams and all 3 of them will earn roughly $3M this year. Which team is going to get the most bang for their buck? Which of these 3 WRs will produce the most points for their owners?

MSW: Probably slides right into the WR1 role with an up and coming Sam Badford throwing him the ball. Little competition for balls. Not sure his ceiling and if I actually trust him.

Plaxico-In prison for 2 years and he gets signed before Randy Moss is on a team? I'm surprised and I'm sure some of you are too. The Jets seem to have a plan for him.

Roy Williams-Reunited with Martz who is the only OC that he truly flourished under. 60-70 balls here if he can stay on the field.

I thought this would make for some good Monday Morning fodder.

 
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For those voting MSW, would you still vote for him if Mark Clayton wasn't grabbin 10 balls a game when he burst on the scene in St Louis last year? What's driving that voite?

 
For those voting MSW, would you still vote for him if Mark Clayton wasn't grabbin 10 balls a game when he burst on the scene in St Louis last year? What's driving that voite?
I dont know. There seems to be alot of competition for Balls in SL and how good was he in Jacksonville with no competition. Better QB for sure but Avery, Alexander, Robinson, Amendola, Pettis and Salas does seem pretty crowded and I could see this hurting anyone having a huge season. If Clayton is resigned than add another
 
For those voting MSW, would you still vote for him if Mark Clayton wasn't grabbin 10 balls a game when he burst on the scene in St Louis last year? What's driving that voite?
I dont know. There seems to be alot of competition for Balls in SL and how good was he in Jacksonville with no competition. Better QB for sure but Avery, Alexander, Robinson, Amendola, Pettis and Salas does seem pretty crowded and I could see this hurting anyone having a huge season. If Clayton is resigned than add another
I voted MSW. True that there is a lot of competition for balls, but MSW is a notch above the others when it comes to talent. If he's on the field, Bradford is good enough to find him. I have always thought that the younger top flight QBs tend to key on one WR early in their careers. See Matt Ryan with Roddy White, Rodgers with Jennings a few years ago. When a QB develops his NFL game, the first thing he improves is his quick decision making and ability to hit any of his WRs/TEs/RBs depending on whatever package the D shows him. Guys like Manning, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady all spread the ball around great, and it can be difficult for one WR to get a healthy % of the balls thrown his way. Bradford will be very good one day, but he's not there yet, and in a McDaniels offense I see him keying in on "his guy." See what he did with Mark Clayton last year prior to the injury. MSW should be that guy this year.
 
Let's start with the mother of all caveats...I'm not particularly high on any of them. Now that we've got that bit of obviousness out of the way, let me applaud Sean for the interesting question.

Plaxico -- I'm not surprised he got a deal simply because there's been talk of him getting a deal, and lots of "on the record" suitors. Ultimately the Jets are taking a flier on him, and I'm not sure Plax, even at this point, isn't going to give you most of what Braylon Edwards would give you. I think today's reports that Cotchery has been given permission to seek a trade tell you that the Jets really believe Burress can be a reasonable second fiddle to an emergent Santonio Holmes. That said, if the Jets have their way it'll be winning games with great defense and a stout run game. And Sanchez may be a "winner", but he's still a terrible quarterback until proven otherwise. So with all that in mind, I'll say he has 60 catch upside, but could be in the 40-50 range. He's probably still got red zone applicability, so I'll say 4-6 scores.

MSW -- Any time a team lets a 26-year old starter go, at a position of clear need, it should be a warning sign. Putting that aside, Sims-Walker has scored 14 TDs in 28 starts, for a team that's been anemic producing TD passes otherwise. He's been reasonably consistent on a per catch basis (in the 13+ yard per catch) over his three seasons, and as MOP noted, he appears to be in line for a starting spot on a team that will have Josh McDaniels calling plays, and Sam Bradford slinging the ball. I'm not sold on Bradford (as a real-life NFL QB) as much as others are yet, but he threw 590 times as a rookie and the Rams have done nothing to make me thinking they can/will run the ball more in 2011. So MSW COULD be in line for quite a few targets. The tough thing though is that even without re-signing Clayton, the Rams have tons of possible alternatives and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Sims-Walker was a marginal contributor by midseason. He's one of the hardest "starters" to project IMHO, and I wouldn't feel comfortable paying more than a later round pick on him hoping that his upside case pans out.

Roy Williams -- On one hand, I look at Roy Williams inability to star with an ultra-accurate QB at the helm like Tony Romo (who is also quite able to throw the ball downfield mind you), and wonder if Jay Cutler is really the tonic that ails him. On the other hand, Martz generally gets production out of "his guys" and I suspect the Bears will throw more than they did last year for a variety of reasons. I like Williams in best ball/survivor type formats, probably more than the other two, but in this offense I still think there's a fair chance he catches 50 or less receptions. I still view Knox as the #1, Bennett is a factor, and while I think Hester should play special teams exclusively, you can count on him in Martz' famous 4-WR sets.

Net-net, Sims-Walker is the guy that wouldn't surprise me to see a Top 20 season, but he's also the guy I could see totally flaming out more than the others. I think Roy Williams is probably the surest bet to be at least a WR3 in deeper leagues on most weeks. My projections for Burress are aggressive, and to be honest unless I see evidence in practice quickly that he looks like his old self, I'm going to have to ratchet them back.

 
Of the 3, I'd go with MSW, only because I have sky high hopes for young Mr. Bradford to be the next Peyton Manning. Having said that, this poll could use a 4th slot depending on who signs Malcom Floyd. It looks like his salary should be around these guys, and I think he could be the best fantasy player of the group, obviously depending on where he ends up.

 
For those voting MSW, would you still vote for him if Mark Clayton wasn't grabbin 10 balls a game when he burst on the scene in St Louis last year? What's driving that voite?
I dont know. There seems to be alot of competition for Balls in SL and how good was he in Jacksonville with no competition. Better QB for sure but Avery, Alexander, Robinson, Amendola, Pettis and Salas does seem pretty crowded and I could see this hurting anyone having a huge season. If Clayton is resigned than add another
you forgot Gibson, who seems to be running with the 1's. (don't think MSW is practicing yet though) http://twitter.com/#!/jthom1/statuses/97748927092244480also, Mardy Gilyard

I think MSW has the most ability to take over and become a WR1...then again his floor is likely lower then the rest

 
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Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz is predicting Roy Williams will have 70 to 80 catches.

Williams did have the best year of his career under Martz . "He's an elite player," said Martz. We're not sure what Martz is going to do with four legit No. 1 receivers, which is what he claims to have in Chicago. Williams's catches will likely come at the expense of Johnny Knox, Earl Bennett, and in particular Devin Hester. We see Hester reverting back to his original role as primarily a kick returner.

 
Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz is predicting Roy Williams will have 70 to 80 catches.

Williams did have the best year of his career under Martz . "He's an elite player," said Martz. We're not sure what Martz is going to do with four legit No. 1 receivers, which is what he claims to have in Chicago. Williams's catches will likely come at the expense of Johnny Knox, Earl Bennett, and in particular Devin Hester. We see Hester reverting back to his original role as primarily a kick returner.
As Sigmund said in response to that on Twitter..."70-80 catches over the rest of his career?"
 
Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune reports that Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz is predicting Roy Williams will have 70 to 80 catches.

Williams did have the best year of his career under Martz . "He's an elite player," said Martz. We're not sure what Martz is going to do with four legit No. 1 receivers, which is what he claims to have in Chicago. Williams's catches will likely come at the expense of Johnny Knox, Earl Bennett, and in particular Devin Hester. We see Hester reverting back to his original role as primarily a kick returner.
As Sigmund said in response to that on Twitter..."70-80 catches over the rest of his career?"
:lmao:
 
MWS has a great young QB throwing him the ball.

but

Roy has a gunslinger in Cutler who's proven he will target a WR and feed him the ball.

it won't be Plaxico, my money is on Roy Williams - MSW will be close behind, but Roy could have B Marshall type numbers in CHI

 

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