These Things I'm convinced of (1 Viewer)

[T Bell]

Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards.

You're SURE of that Couldn't they both be mediocre?

I know the language filter will take the important word out but hoenstly I can't say it another way:Herm Edwards is an awful ####### coach.

rocking?

 

[Liquid Tension]

Brady made Moss...not the other way.

If one severely under thrown pass is on target you're not saying this. Far too much evidence exist to the contrary of this point.

True, but Moss still could have made the catch anyway. That is certainly a ball that Moss is quite capable of coming back on and making the catch.

Reeves knocked the ball away after recovering from being beat by more than 5 yards.

Actually, no, Moss dropped it before any contact. That being said, you are right about Moss

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm convinced it's pretty stupid to be drawing many conclusions after two weeks.

If you think this is useless. Can't wait to read what you have to say about this thread

 

[C-Pod]

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Vick was a winner, he was certainly an above average QB while he was in the league. Culpepper was fine until he destroyed his knee. McNair and Cunningham were also very successful in that type of mold.

Yeah Culpepper-Moss=disaster? Huh? You must have just started watching football. He was the #1 FF QB 3 out of 5 years, one of the other years he was #2. And Moss was pretty much the best WR in the league. Yeah, horrible failure.

I'm pretty sure that dash in Culpepper-Moss is a minus sign ... Culpepper minus Moss. As in Culpepper sucked without Randy Moss.

 

[fatness]

-Brett Favre misses being a Packer. You can sit in his eyes.

I don't want to. Perhaps his wife does.

 

[fatness]

Plaxico Burress is very good. He does not get much praise on message boards, but if you try to get someone owning him to trade him you'll see his real value.

 

[daivos]

Brandon Marshall is worth his weight in GOLD

Actually. Brandon Marshall is listed at 230 lbs.If you go by today's average of $777.00 per ounce, he would be worth approx. $2,859,360.00.I actually think he is worth more than his weight in gold. There's not a team out there that would give him more than $2.8 million to play.

 

[T Bell]

-Brett Favre misses being a Packer. You can sit in his eyes.

He probably shouldn't have un-re-un-retired after last year then.

 

[Liquid Tension]

The ball bounced off Moss's chest. Revis had good coverage for most of the day, but not on that one, he never touched it.

Yes he did.

Jurb, I watched that play a few times in super slo mo in HD on 65" screen and with 10 people in the room all 10 said there was no way he touched it before the ball bounced out of Moss arms? Not sure what you were looking at but that is what happened.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I'm convinced it's pretty stupid to be drawing many conclusions after two weeks.

Just as it's true that 2 weeks does not a season make, moves made early in Weeks 1 and 2 can also win you championships.It's true that teams sometimes take a few weeks to get in their rhythm, and most would agree that bailing on LT or Moss might be couterproductive. But it's also true that certain trends develop by Week 2 that can either be foreboding, and give you a chance to bail or trade out of bad spots (I'm thinking of players like LJ, Holt who could fall in this category), or give you a jump on players who could be incredibly productive above their ADP for the rest of the year (Royal, DeShaun Jackson).Yes, it's all guesswork, and should be taken as such. But these threads give some insight into collective intelligent guesswork by the masses, and if the same teams, players, or situations are noted by many, it may be worth thinking about a little mroe in terms of impact to your squad.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Jay Cutler is/will soon be an elite QB. Props to Yudkin's QB rankings.Warner is really good when healthy. It was his thumb that ultimately derailed the Rams more than anything else IMO.Brandon Marshall's goal of 140 catches is attainable.Tony Scheffler is a top 5 TE. SD's defense is lost without Wade Philips.The Panthers are a very real threat in the NFC.The AFC north is the worst division in football apart from PIT.Mike Brown still sucks.com.Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards. LT's days of being a top 5 RB are over and that team now belongs to Rivers.The St. Louis Rams have made a huge mistake trying to rebuild the DL instead of the OL. All their money is on offense. Brian Griese is an NFL starting QB when he has an offensive-minded HC like Shanahan or Gruden. He is carving out a decent average career.Braylon Edwards' hands still suck. Kellen Winslow and Jamal Lewis look like the only real football players on that team.T.O. will have his best year as a pro in terms of TDs in 2008. Felix Jones should keep the KR job regardless of who gets healthy and also see looks on PRs over Adam Jones.Aaron Rodgers is a very good football player on a very good football team.MIN is at a serious handicap with Bryant Mckinnie's suspension. His return will turn on the light for that offense.The PIT OL is better this year without Faneca.Reggie Bush will make one play every game that makes him worth a start.

Sorry to pull out only one above, but can you explain this?

 

[TD Ryan]

Matt Cassel wins MVP.

Patriots win the Super Bowl and go undefeated.

Tom Brady returns in '09 as a backup. is traded for (2) 1st round picks and NE dominates for another decade

These things I'm convinced of.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Plaxico Burress is very good. He does not get much praise on message boards, but if you try to get someone owning him to trade him you'll see his real value.

For some reason he doesn't get respect. the Giants just ripped up his contract and gave him a ton of dough. last year he -played through a really bad ankle sprain that didn't allow him to cut at all (he rounded every turn) and got a little healthier come playoff time. This year he is much quicker and he has always had good hands and great size. He is a weapon.I made a stink about last year but nobody scored more points than Warner from week 10 on last year and he will be a top 5 QB if he stays healthy.

People have jumped off the Minnesota bandwagon because they have played GB and Indy. People will be saying they are a solid team when they get to their bye and McKinney has played a few weeks. They are not a top echelon team though, more on par with Washington as a team you better be ready to play.

Houston should trade for Larry Johnson right now.

Go get Jamal Lewis after week 3, you will be able to get a #1 RB for a lot less. You could feel the waters now and after he struggles against Baltimore grab him.

Delhomme is ranked about 20th right now; he will be top 10 the rest of the way if healthy.

If Orton can be competent and make some passes down field the Bears have a WC shot (GB will win the division)

Carolina will be one of the final 4 teams in the NFC if they stay healthy. Mushin will be resurrected from WR hell in Chicago once Smith is back in action.

Some of my preseason predictions:

I stand by prediction that Jonathan Stewart will be the best back out of this class

I also stand by prediction that Ronnie Brown is by far the best RB in Miami and I never saw what others were saying about Ricky in the offseason (I saw a quick guy who could bowling ball off of people, but didn;t have the balance and shiftiness needed to be good anymore. He is nothing more than a good backup or a weak starter IMO.

Same prediction about Chad Pennington, he is a weak starter or a good backup, and Chad Henne will be starting for Miami before the year is out. I am however, unsure if Henne will be a good long terms starter (hedging here as I haven't seen enough of him)

If Steven Jackson were on the Giants he would be the number 1 fantasy RB.

I said this was the year to sell LT because it is better to sell a year too early than a year too late, but I didn't take my own advice :( I still think LT2 is great, but these types of injuries can make you look old quick. If healthy he will still be very good down the stretch though...

I said Cutler was going to step up into the top tier of QB's this year (mostly based on his diabetes, Brandon Marshall and normal progression)

I also said I thought Garrard would be a guy to move up to the top of tier 2. (not looking even remotely good)

 

[Liquid Tension]

Brandon Marshall is worth his weight in GOLD

Actually. Brandon Marshall is listed at 230 lbs.If you go by today's average of $777.00 per ounce, he would be worth approx. $2,859,360.00.I actually think he is worth more than his weight in gold. There's not a team out there that would give him more than $2.8 million to play.

Great post!!!

 

[kolejo]

after week 2 i'm convinced that benching my first round pick in both leagues was a smart move, benched addai for Forte in one league and benched SJax for Greg Jennings in the other.

 

[j3r3m3y]

As of right now, the NFC is the superior conference.

Why does this matter to anyone?

 

[T Bell]

As of right now, the NFC is the superior conference.

Why does this matter to anyone?

I'm pretty sure that the AFL is just a flash in the pan and won't last. No sir.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards.

You're SURE of that Couldn't they both be mediocre?

I know the language filter will take the important word out but hoenstly I can't say it another way:Herm Edwards is an awful ####### coach.

rocking?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The PIT OL is better this year without Faneca.

Sorry to pull out only one above, but can you explain this?

I can. When the coaching change happend and we got a new OL coach (Larry Zierlein) Faneca became a problem. Alan was a Russ Grimm "boy" and was upset when RG was passed over for the HC job and left for Arizona. Other offensive linemen have stated that Faneca had so much tenure, respect and influence that he could overrule the new OL coach at times. This made for a big distraction that hurt the continuity of the entire line. On top of that he had his contract issue which made him more un-agreeable and he apparently let his practice (and game) efforts suffer all too often.Couple that with a big return of LT Marvel Smith, the massive addition (subtraction) of Justin Hartwig (over Sean Mahan) and the oline having a little more continuity and coach control - and you have a better line. Maybe not great, but at least a little better.

 

[j3r3m3y]

As of right now, the NFC is the superior conference.

Why does this matter to anyone?

I'm pretty sure that the AFL is just a flash in the pan and won't last. No sir.

Thats what I feel about this "internet" thing.

 

[crnerblitz]

As of right now, the NFC is the superior conference.

Why does this matter to anyone?

Because we are football fans posting on a football message board about football? I believe Arizona will rope in a bunch of suckers just like every other year and then end up leaving them bitter and jaded just like every other year.

 

[Football Jones]

Another vote for Trent Edwards here. I don't see how anybody who has followed this kid isn't absolutely giddy right now. I was not only high on him coming out of Stanford (on a horrid team), as soon as I saw him play a regular season game as a rookie, you could tell he might be a special player. He's played 12 freaking games & looks pretty much like a seasoned vet.

I mean, remember what some of the great QBs looked like early in their careers? Favre running around like a chicken with his head cut off, LOL. Edwards is basically a rookie (more or less). He just has the God-given ability to play QB. Besides the intangibles, Edwards has that short, quick, compact stroke that few possess (& is so valuable). He's also got a plus arm, throws a tight ball, & is a decent athlete. Call it genetics, whatever, but I believe Edwards can be a as good as anybody. The sky is the limit, IMO.

Yeah, he'll likely have some bad games, & I'm sure I'll get called out. He's inexperienced...bad games are going to happen. However, when you take into account Edwards has thrown 3 INTs in his last 7 games, & all those were in one game (where he also threw 2 TDs), it's not hard to see why I'm so high on him. Edwards isn't just a "check-downer ", either. When you compare his rookie 6.1 YPA to McNabb's 4.4 YPA in his rookie season, it's not hard to see Edwards' immense potential (BTW, his 8.3 YPA so far this season is a sick number).

FF might be a different story, although, there's plenty of reason for optimism given their offense (good OL & skill players). If Edwards is as good as I think he is, then he'll get an offense built around him sooner or later (no matter who the HC is). I think he can finish top-10 or 12 this year with a chance to be much, much better in the future.

 

[The Jacket]

Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards.

"Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards are KC's problems."Different topic altogether: Trent Edwards will never be a "special" player. At best he's good. Just doesn't have that "special" talent in him like a Jay Cutler who we all see evolving into a "special" player.

 

[Kleck]

Plaxico Burress is very good. He does not get much praise on message boards, but if you try to get someone owning him to trade him you'll see his real value.

Until he got a little dinged up last year, he was damn near neck-and-neck with Moss.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup.

Actually, Young was a starter for many years. (Once Montana retired.)

 

[Ned]

So far, the typically 1st round draft picks haven't faired so well - Brady, LT2, Addai, Moss, Jacobs hasn't wowed. Who else? It's not been a good year for 1st round picks. Granted, it's only 2 weeks.

jacobs a first rounder??ap, westy, lynch, gore, portis all seem to be doing ok so far for first rounders.

 

[Short Corner]

minnesota is overrated. maybe not now, but pre-season they were. they were picked to win the NorseNorris by some, and possibly challenge for a SB! maybe that was with favre and not jackson, but still this team not there yet.

Eli has matured into a good QB, but Cutler is emerging as an elite QB in the NFL.

Fixed.This was named after the hockey division since they used to play so tough.... hence the "Black and Blue" division moniker also.

I always thought black and blue was the old AFC Central in the 70's.

 

[trader jake]

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup.

Actually, Young was a starter for many years. (Once Montana retired.)

What about Vince Young? Before his recent "issues" VY had to answer many questions. His career seems destined to follow the Mike Vick experience (minus the dogs) and Young seems like a long-shot to ever lead the Titans to a Super Bowl. The Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler QB debate of 3 years ago is now ovah.

 

[Resident A]

Matt Schaub is David Carr v2.0 this season. Perhaps something more than just warm bodies on the OL would be nice.

You are basing this off 1 game?A very difficult road game game which the Texans got killed by the blitz- In which Schaub still passed for 200+ yards, completed 78%, and had 2 TDs?I doubt Carr ever had stats like that, even when things were going right.

 

[thecardiackid]

San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.

Great thread. This is the only one I don't agree with. Sure they might not win it all, but they will be one of the better teams in the AFC, thus have a decent shot at winning it all. They could easily be 2-0 right now after losing to the Panthers in the last play of the game and to the Broncos because of the ref.

If SD is to do anything this year, they're going to have to step up the D. The Panthers pounded them a lot more than the score indicated, and Denver, well, we all saw that. Maybe losing Merriman will be too much to overcome.

Agree losing Merriman is big, but IMO the injury to NT Jamal Williams is hurting them even more. Merriman is a great pass rusher and edge guy, but Williams really helps that D vs. the run and lets the DC get creative w/ the LBs.Cutler abused the DBs last week, but w/o a decent pass rush even solid corners will get exposed.

 

[Liquid Tension]

The PIT OL is better this year without Faneca.

Sorry to pull out only one above, but can you explain this?

I can. When the coaching change happend and we got a new OL coach (Larry Zierlein) Faneca became a problem. Alan was a Russ Grimm "boy" and was upset when RG was passed over for the HC job and left for Arizona. Other offensive linemen have stated that Faneca had so much tenure, respect and influence that he could overrule the new OL coach at times. This made for a big distraction that hurt the continuity of the entire line. On top of that he had his contract issue which made him more un-agreeable and he apparently let his practice (and game) efforts suffer all too often.Couple that with a big return of LT Marvel Smith, the massive addition (subtraction) of Justin Hartwig (over Sean Mahan) and the oline having a little more continuity and coach control - and you have a better line. Maybe not great, but at least a little better.

Thanks, that makes sense. I was curious as all the Jet fans have been happy and I was thinking maybe he had been underplaying his hype? in your opinion is he still a top guard, but the situation warranted moving?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

The PIT OL is better this year without Faneca.

Sorry to pull out only one above, but can you explain this?

I can. When the coaching change happend and we got a new OL coach (Larry Zierlein) Faneca became a problem. Alan was a Russ Grimm "boy" and was upset when RG was passed over for the HC job and left for Arizona. Other offensive linemen have stated that Faneca had so much tenure, respect and influence that he could overrule the new OL coach at times. This made for a big distraction that hurt the continuity of the entire line. On top of that he had his contract issue which made him more un-agreeable and he apparently let his practice (and game) efforts suffer all too often.Couple that with a big return of LT Marvel Smith, the massive addition (subtraction) of Justin Hartwig (over Sean Mahan) and the oline having a little more continuity and coach control - and you have a better line. Maybe not great, but at least a little better.

Thanks, that makes sense. I was curious as all the Jet fans have been happy and I was thinking maybe he had been underplaying his hype? in your opinion is he still a top guard, but the situation warranted moving?

Many informed Steeler fans said "let him walk" because his issues with us. The media had it all wrong.There is no doubt he had a stellar history and top flight ability for many years.Linemen usualy dont just "lose it" at his age. So he should/could be fine for the Jets for a couple years. Its like any human being, sometimes you just need a new employment venue.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards.

You're SURE of that Couldn't they both be mediocre?

I know the language filter will take the important word out but hoenstly I can't say it another way:Herm Edwards is an awful ####### coach.

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

 

[FavreCo]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.
You get out Herminator!!!!

 

[Dragon1952]

Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.Brady made Moss...not the other way.Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.Cleveland will not make the playoffs.Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.Eli is a franchise QB.McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years. The Lions will always be bad.Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2. The Cardinals will win their division.These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?Please, Add your own.

I couldn't find one opinion there that I could disagree with

 

[Downontheupside]

Jay Cutler is an elite fantasy and NFL quarterback with one of the best arms and WR corps in the game.

 

[the UFFRM]

Carl Peterson is KC's problem, not Herm Edwards.

You're SURE of that Couldn't they both be mediocre?

Of course I could obviously be wrong but I truly feel that if Herman Edwards ever got his hands on a genuine franchise QB or even just one elite player in the mold of Ray Lewis in terms of leadership and/or locker room presence he (Edwards) can make teams play above their true talent level. I saw this repeatedly with the Jets and again in the last two years in KC with teams that had no such players. Edwards does have a glaring clock management weakness among other idiosyncrasies but I can't think of any team he's ever coached that has given up on him. That speaks volumes to me. The 2008 Chiefs are too young in most spots; too old in others; and too selfish in one spot (LJ). Peterson has tied Herm's hands behind his back by pairing a green and fragile young QB with an overmatched and inexperienced offensive line. You either groom/ build one or the other separately but not at the same time. Peterson's fingerprints are all over the Chiefs miscues during his tenure..err, despotic reign, and he has a track record of putting his coaches in tough spots. I don't want to hijack this thread but that's my short version. Sorry, about the lag time BTW.

 

[the UFFRM]

The PIT OL is better this year without Faneca.

Sorry to pull out only one above, but can you explain this?

I can. When the coaching change happend and we got a new OL coach (Larry Zierlein) Faneca became a problem. Alan was a Russ Grimm "boy" and was upset when RG was passed over for the HC job and left for Arizona. Other offensive linemen have stated that Faneca had so much tenure, respect and influence that he could overrule the new OL coach at times. This made for a big distraction that hurt the continuity of the entire line. On top of that he had his contract issue which made him more un-agreeable and he apparently let his practice (and game) efforts suffer all too often.Couple that with a big return of LT Marvel Smith, the massive addition (subtraction) of Justin Hartwig (over Sean Mahan) and the oline having a little more continuity and coach control - and you have a better line. Maybe not great, but at least a little better.

Thanks, that makes sense. I was curious as all the Jet fans have been happy and I was thinking maybe he had been underplaying his hype? in your opinion is he still a top guard, but the situation warranted moving?

Many informed Steeler fans said "let him walk" because his issues with us. The media had it all wrong.There is no doubt he had a stellar history and top flight ability for many years.Linemen usualy dont just "lose it" at his age. So he should/could be fine for the Jets for a couple years. Its like any human being, sometimes you just need a new employment venue.

I could not explain that any better. Great job.

 

[the UFFRM]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

I think in KC and the last year or two with the Jets Herman Edwards has had to play that way to survive. I am confident that he would be more than happy to coach a more talented team and blow everybody out every Sunday. I think there are a lot of mis-conceptions about decisions he has made as opposed to decisions he may have been forced to make given the hands he's been dealt.

 

[Norseman]

Trent Edwards doesn't suck anymore.

Brady made Moss...not the other way.

Marvin Lewis is looking for a job by new year's.

Cleveland will not make the playoffs.

Reshard Mendenhall WILL NOT keep Willie Parker from 300 carries this year.

The Colts will be fine, the Jaguars, not so much.

The Titans are a playoff team, especially with the QB change.

The "Denver RB" fantasy tease is DEAD. Welcome to RBBC hell.

Herm Edwards SHOULD be fired.

San Diego, my pre-season pick to win it all, won't.

Not all young quarterbacks are going to suck. If you check your top scorers at QB, odds are it looks something like: Cutler, Rodgers, Rivers.

Eli is a franchise QB.

McNabb really is an elite talent at QB, but he'll miss 4-6 games, and the Eagles will be on the bubble.

The Bears defense is back, and Forte is going to be a franchise work-horse guy for the next 5+ years.

The Lions will always be bad.

Minnesota is the best 0-2 team not to be screwed into 0-2.

The Cardinals will win their division.

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Please, Add your own.

I couldn't find one opinion there that I could disagree with

Minnesota was screwed into 0-2 by there coaching...

 

[Banger]

A couple things...

Lee Evans should have a nice year

People are way overreacting with B Edwards and I'd try to buy big time

Same goes for Addai

The Bengals won't be as bad as they look right now and it may be time to target Housh on the cheap

The magic dust has worn off of Derek Anderson and he probably won't end the year as the starter.

The Vikings made a huge mistake hitching their wagon to TJax

The Rams are bad

Mike Martz really has a knack for finding unknown qb"s (and then getting them killed).

Start a game as a Seattle wideout = done for the year.

The Lions continue to be a joke.

The Broncos will have the top passing game in the league

The chargers can't catch a break

KC...see the Rams

The Pats are a damn good football team

Chris johnson will be a star

Reggie Brown is now a 3rd wr

 

[Reaper]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

Maybe you're confiedent but, nothing in the man's past shows he could do this... He was never a coordinator and from his time with the Jets he was part of an organization that changed systems on the fly.... Hired a 3-4 DC and installed a Tampa Cover 2 and then flip flopped and did the same with the offense trying to install a WCO with an aging Vinny on an offesne that was already pretty damn good. He also ran Curtis into the ground and pretty much missed a great opportunity spare Martin some miles with Lamont Jordan - There were weeks where Jordan was CLEARLY the better back against a specific defense and he'd continue to run an injured Martin into a brick wall.

To me, the man has no systems of his own.... I guess that could be good - I'd rather hire a "Genius" at least on 1 side of the ball....

Could he be a Head coach of a team with a light it up offense, a lights out defense and coordinators to run each, plus a Clock manager, while ALL he needed to do was make up nice speeches???? I guess so, I'm thinking maybe YOU could too though?????? Actually I'm confident of it ; )

 

[Ghost Rider]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

He was given a terrific offense in KC, and in two years, he has dismantled it into one of the most pathetic in the league.

 

[NYRAGE]

I don't even know if Herm could coach a college team, much less a pro team. He's got high school coach written all over him. He might be able to pull off his phony rah-rah snake-oil salesmen routine on teenagers.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

You mean like running the ball for no gain on 3rd down at Pittsburgh in the playoffs knowing nobody ever kicked a 48 yard field goal in that stadium before, then asking his kicker to win the game on that 48 yard field goal, when he could have tried passing the ball on 3rd down to give his kicker a little extra room and had been no worse for the wear if the pass was incomplete but much better off if it was? That's the decision he was forced to make?

 

[PatsFanCT]

Brett Favre will retire, for good this time, before the season even ends.

 

[Tom Baker]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

Herm was asked which quarterback gives the Chiefs the best chance to win this week. He said, "They both give us the best chance to win."

 

[baconisgood]

Herm Edwards ASPIRES to be mediocre. Worst coach in the NFL.

My favorite Herminator quote: 'I like to keep it close and try and win the game in the 4th quarter.' He could take the Broncos 2008 offense and destroy it within minutes.

Browns homer, not a big DA fan, but lets face it, if Braylon catches that 40 yrd TD in game 1 he ends up with 160 yards and 2 TDs and there is a lot less concern. Hes never going to be an elite QB, but he will get a bunch of chances to succeed this year.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

These fast kids that play Quarterback in college just don't make it in the pros. Culpepper-Moss=disaster. Vick=not a winner. Young=backup. Chase Daniels, Terrelle Pryor, is it too late to get on the baseball team?

Vick was a winner, he was certainly an above average QB while he was in the league. Culpepper was fine until he destroyed his knee. McNair and Cunningham were also very successful in that type of mold.

Black QBs don't fit the NFL mold. Not because they are black, but because they've been coached by idiots in HS and College to be RB/QBs, rather than pocket passers. Making them useless at the next level.Other than McNabb, who is really a white guy in disguise, I wouldn't want to start a franchise with anyone you listed.

 

[Riflemen]

Unless the Redskins totally implode (highly unlikely), not only will the NFC East produce both wildcards again, but they may set a record for winning % as a division.Philly-Dallas at the Linc week 17? Might be for both the division AND home field advantage!ETA: Green Bay appears a near-lock for the other bye.

I can see it now... Giants -9.5 at Seattle, Philly -6.5 at Tampa