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THIS IS THEIR BEST SONG! - Music Draft - Saturday Night's Alright for iFighting (2 Viewers)

What was the ruling regarding a solo recording from a member of a group? AKA the Ringo Rule?

ETA - Krista beat me to it

 
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squistion said:
Up already? Really? And I only got an hour...Okie Dokie Pokie!
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Yes, indeed, you have been allotted the same amount of time as everyone else in the draft.  Actually in this case, more time since we forgot to @ you at first.  You get an hour from your @.  

 
krista4 said:
@Northern Voice, I think you said this in the original discussion of this draft in the last thread, but since I don't see it in the first post, I want to clarify.  I'm going to use an obvious choice (for me) to do so.

Paul McCartney:  Has been taken as a Beatle, so the Beatles are off the list.  But he could be taken as a solo artist or as a member of other bands/groups, so long as they were not one-off songs but actual groups/duos that made albums together.  Correct? 
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Yeah as a solo artist or part of a group he is good for sure. I don't want to get to deep into the weeds on people using one off duos and duets and supergroups and such as loopholes but obviously someone like McCartney has a very clear solo career.

I think the spirit of the draft is picking from artists with deep catalogues for the most part, which I hope naturally takes out the one off type things that could be used. 

 
Northern Voice said:
I figured this was one of the bands with the highest controversy indexes in terms of what their best song is and was considering taking something from them for that reason, even though I'm not near the fan a lot of people are and I probably would have taken 'Black'. 
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That's my son's pick.  I go Jeremy.  

 
The other issue that was raised to me and is very relevant in more recent artists is "featuring" songs, which I think the best way to deal with is the song is credited to the main artist it was initially credited to only. 

So the artist who appeared as (featured) can still be taken from their own solo catalogue/where they are credited as the primary artist. 

 
One more note for the rookies...if you come on the clock less than an hour before the clock shuts off for the night, your clock extends for the unused time into the next day.  For instance, you come on at 9:30 p.m. EST - your clock would go until 10:30 a.m. EST the next day.  If, however, you make your pick after the clock is off, the new clock for the next drafter will not begin until 10 a.m. EST the next day, though people are free to continue to make picks in the meantime.

 
The Dreaded Marco said:
2.05  Ashes to Ashes - David Bowie

There are so many artists that I want to take here but Bowie is the one least likely to get back to me.  Considered Heroes too but I'm trying not to draft a song from the last draft we did for the RS500, plus I love this one just as much.
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I grew up with "Modern Love" and "Let's Dance" and I love both.   

Didn't discover 70s Bowie until the late 90s.

I think my top Bowie would be "Starman".

I need to watch the Bowie documentary on Netflix...maybe tonight.

 
Northern Voice said:
The other issue that was raised to me and is very relevant in more recent artists is "featuring" songs, which I think the best way to deal with is the song is credited to the main artist it was initially credited to only. 

So the artist who appeared as (featured) can still be taken from their own solo catalogue/where they are credited as the primary artist. 
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That's a good clarification - thanks!

 
krista4 said:
One more note for the rookies...if you come on the clock less than an hour before the clock shuts off for the night, your clock extends for the unused time into the next day.  For instance, you come on at 9:30 p.m. EST - your clock would go until 10:30 a.m. EST the next day.  If, however, you make your pick after the clock is off, the new clock for the next drafter will not begin until 10 a.m. EST the next day, though people are free to continue to make picks in the meantime.
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I realize this will seem obvious to most, by the way.

NV, might be worth putting those two clarifications you made into the first post, for easy access in case questions arise.

 
krista4 said:
One more note for the rookies...if you come on the clock less than an hour before the clock shuts off for the night, your clock extends for the unused time into the next day.  For instance, you come on at 9:30 p.m. EST - your clock would go until 10:30 a.m. EST the next day.  If, however, you make your pick after the clock is off, the new clock for the next drafter will not begin until 10 a.m. EST the next day, though people are free to continue to make picks in the meantime.
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And bring donuts.

 
Can somebody put the spreadsheet link at the top of the original post?  Thanks!

 
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Northern Voice said:
The other issue that was raised to me and is very relevant in more recent artists is "featuring" songs, which I think the best way to deal with is the song is credited to the main artist it was initially credited to only. 

So the artist who appeared as (featured) can still be taken from their own solo catalogue/where they are credited as the primary artist. 
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So, since they're both taken, the example would be if Under Pressure (featuring David Bowie) was taken and credited to Queen, Bowie would still be available. 

krista4 said:
One more note for the rookies...if you come on the clock less than an hour before the clock shuts off for the night, your clock extends for the unused time into the next day.  For instance, you come on at 9:30 p.m. EST - your clock would go until 10:30 a.m. EST the next day.  If, however, you make your pick after the clock is off, the new clock for the next drafter will not begin until 10 a.m. EST the next day, though people are free to continue to make picks in the meantime.
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And many of the best picks, discussions and random events unrelated to the draft often happen outside draft hours. 

Because half the draft is intoxicated. 

 
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Northern Voice said:
The other issue that was raised to me and is very relevant in more recent artists is "featuring" songs, which I think the best way to deal with is the song is credited to the main artist it was initially credited to only. 

So the artist who appeared as (featured) can still be taken from their own solo catalogue/where they are credited as the primary artist. 
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noted

 
Sorry... work was nuts today and I had no free time to check my personal phone or check the thread over the internet at work. 

2.04 Smallpox Champion - Fugazi

The In on the Kill Taker album was peak Fugazi, IMO. This song has it all... brooding intro melding into jagged dissonant riffs, the stop on the dime break in the middle, and the anthemic singalong chorus at the end. Guy took the lead and Ian stayed back in the shadows. Who else could rock a song about a topic like this, except maybe The Clash? 

This CD sold for $8-10 new and admission to Fugazi shows (I saw three) was $6 (maybe they raised it to $7, cuz inflation, you know?). 

Emo-shmemo - THIS WAS PUNK ROCK

 
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2.14 - Fleetwood Mac - Child of Mine (1972)

https://youtu.be/F--ImFAn8oU

This band had about 5-6 incarnations and I wouldn't second guess any pick from their early days as a blues rock band, like Rattlesnake Shake, The Green Manalishi or Oh Well. Nor from the bridge period with Bob Welch (who the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didn't invite to the Fleetwood Mac induction ceremony). Nor from their later hits period with Buckingham/Nicks.

However my selection is from the brief time when their ill-fated lead guitarist Danny Kirwan was fronting the band. He was mentally unstable and had a complete breakdown on the US tour supporting the LP Bare Trees (from which this song was taken) and was kicked out of the band and the tour cancelled (which led their manager to send out a fake band who called themselves Fleetwood Mac to finish the tour...but I digress).

Anyway, Kirwan, who was the best lead player they ever had (others may disagree) penned this song which talks about how he and his mom were abandoned by his father when he was a small child. Kirwan, himself, had just become a father at 19 and was promising his child the same would not happen.

🎶 Little child of mine
You'll be lovin' like your little Mother did
Heard it somewhere before
I won't leave you no not like my Father did🎶

 
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dickey moe said:
Sorry... work was nuts today and I had no free time to check my personal phone or check the thread over the internet at work. 

2.04 Smallpox Champion - Fugazi

The In on the Kill Taker album was peak Fugazi, IMO. This song has it all... brooding intro melding into jagged dissonant riffs, the stop on the dime break in the middle, and the anthemic singalong chorus at the end. Guy took the lead and Ian stayed back in the shadows. Who else could rock a song about a topic like this, except maybe The Clash? 

This CD sold for $8-10 new and admission to Fugazi shows (I saw three) were $6 (maybe they raised it to $7, cuz inflation, you know?). 

Emo-shmemo - THIS WAS PUNK ROCK
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Fugazi is a band that, every time they come up in a draft, I make a mental note to listen to more, and then never remember to do so.  I read your pick to OH, who heartily approved (though he first named half a dozen others when I asked what their best song was), and now he's playing it for me.

He also nominates Shut the Door, Ex-Spectator, Bed for the Scraping...

 
squistion said:
2.14 - Fleetwood Mac - Child of Mine (1972)

https://youtu.be/F--ImFAn8oU

This band had about 5-6 incarnations and I wouldn't second guess any pick from their early days as a blues rock band, like Rattlesnake Shake, The Green Manalishi or Oh Well. Nor from the bridge period with Bob Welch (who the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didn't invite to the Fleetwood Mac induction ceremony) nor from their later hits period with Buckingham/Nicks.

However my selection is from the brief time when the ill-fated lead guitarist Danny Kirwan was fronting the band. He was mentally unstable and had a complete mental breakdown on the US tour supporting the LP Bare Trees (from which this song was taken) and was kicked out of the band and the tour cancelled (which led their manager to send out a fake bank called Fleetwood Mac to finish the tour...but I digress).

Anyway, Kirwan, who was the best lead player they ever had (others may disagree) penned this song which talks about how he and his mom were abandoned by his father when he was a small child. Kirwan, himself, had just become a father at 19 and was promising his child the same would not happen.

🎶 Little child of mine
You'll be lovin' like your little Mother did
Heard it somewhere before
I won't leave you no not like my Father did🎶
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I think we have different musical tastes (though I don't know this song and will listen, in general I don't like this band), but your write-ups are A+.  :thumbup:  

 
BeTheMatch said:
Under Pressure is the greatest sound ever recorded in human history. And it's not even close. In my humble opinion, of course.
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That was the exact song I was going to pick to eliminate both Bowie and Queen whilst (!) I cackled loudly. Good to see it getting some love here after Bowie and Queen were taken. Rules on duets or features notwithstanding, that is.

 
squistion said:
2.14 - Fleetwood Mac - Child of Mine (1972)

https://youtu.be/F--ImFAn8oU

This band had about 5-6 incarnations and I wouldn't second guess any pick from their early days as a blues rock band, like Rattlesnake Shake, The Green Manalishi or Oh Well. Nor from the bridge period with Bob Welch (who the so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame didn't invite to the Fleetwood Mac induction ceremony) nor from their later hits period with Buckingham/Nicks.

However my selection is from the brief time when the ill-fated lead guitarist Danny Kirwan was fronting the band. He was mentally unstable and had a complete mental breakdown on the US tour supporting the LP Bare Trees (from which this song was taken) and was kicked out of the band and the tour cancelled (which led their manager to send out a fake bank called Fleetwood Mac to finish the tour...but I digress).

Anyway, Kirwan, who was the best lead player they ever had (others may disagree) penned this song which talks about how he and his mom were abandoned by his father when he was a small child. Kirwan, himself, had just become a father at 19 and was promising his child the same would not happen.

🎶 Little child of mine
You'll be lovin' like your little Mother did
Heard it somewhere before
I won't leave you no not like my Father did🎶
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I had the title track Bare Trees on my list.

 
TripItUp said:
I grew up with "Modern Love" and "Let's Dance" and I love both.   

Didn't discover 70s Bowie until the late 90s.

I think my top Bowie would be "Starman".

I need to watch the Bowie documentary on Netflix...maybe tonight.
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I discovered David Bowie circa 1972 when I was 7, watching him play Width of a Circle on Don Kirchner's Rock Concert.  It was a brain chemistry altering event.

 
I've always held Van Halen in low regard.  Just never could get past that overrated pile of junk, Jump.  Hated that song.  And Pound Cake, could turn the dial fast enough.. But they are better than Rush, so that have that going for them.

 
Mister CIA said:
I've always held Van Halen in low regard.  Just never could get past that overrated pile of junk, Jump.  Hated that song.  And Pound Cake, could turn the dial fast enough.. But they are better than Rush, so that have that going for them.
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But Jump encapsulates an entire genre and period of time. I can see hating it because overplayed, etc., but it will always have an important place in history.

 
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