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THIS IS THEIR BEST SONG! - Music Draft - Saturday Night's Alright for iFighting (6 Viewers)

krista4 said:
3.??  Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye

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@El Floppo
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my grandfather always insisted, when i wanted to look up a word in the dictionary, that i read and try to learn the entire page that the word was on. even though i didnt appreciate it at the time, it was a lynchpin of my education

a highlight of these drafts is when someone picks Jeff Buckley, because it cues me to listen to Grace in its entirety. great as it is, i cant listen to it more often. it's like an acceptance speech - quotes and/or thanks so many people who touched him along the way, reveals a lifetime's aspiration without actually getting to the statement he wants to make. i missed Grace when it first came around, learned about him (except for the one song) from you guys and i cant bear to listen to it any more often than when it's mentioned here because i HATE wondering what we missed when his song sense wasnt allowed to catch up to his song wish. it would have killed us all...

 
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Looks like the list isn't updated......is Alice in Chains still on the board?  If so, I'm taking something from Jar of Flies.....I wanna take the entire EP, but I gotta choose one!  I'll go No Excuses

 
Manster said:
Looks like the list isn't updated......is Alice in Chains still on the board?  If so, I'm taking something from Jar of Flies.....I wanna take the entire EP, but I gotta choose one!  I'll go No Excuses
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It looks updated to me, but maybe I'm missing something. I don't think AIC has been taken yet.

 
Manster said:
Looks like the list isn't updated......is Alice in Chains still on the board?  If so, I'm taking something from Jar of Flies.....I wanna take the entire EP, but I gotta choose one!  I'll go No Excuses
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looks like Alice In Chains is AVAILABLE!  

what's your selection of songs?

 
El Floppo said:
I'm obviously trying to buy time while I scramble after that woman took my next artist (I was going to take Lover, You Should've Come Over).
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Blame Dr. Octopus for taking Return of the Grievous Angel.  He sniped you via the transitive property.

I mean, who the hell takes Gram Parsons in the second round?  :hot:  

ETA:  The song you would have taken was the other one I considered.

 
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krista4 said:
3.??  Jeff Buckley - Last Goodbye

Write-up later. 
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I like Jeff Buckley, but if he had lived I doubt that he ever would have developed more than a cult following. It seemed to me that he avoided doing anything that even remotely had hit potential. The Grace LP peaked at #149 and none of the four singles released off of it even charted on Billboard Top 100 (although Last Goodbye reached #19 on US Alternative Airplay list). 

I don't think the LP he was working on at the time of his death would have fared much better with the public. He initially brought in Tom Verlaine to produce it, but scrapped those tracks entirely and started over again from scratch.

After listening to the Verlaine produced tracks, I think Buckley's dissatisfaction was due to the fact that it was too commercial sounding, which is amusing to me, as Verlaine has never come close to mainstream success. Nevertheless, some of songs he produced did have catchy hooks and had the potential of giving Buckley the commercial popularity that had eluded him.

 
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krista4 said:
Blame Dr. Octopus for taking Return of the Grievous Angel.  He sniped you via the transitive property.

I mean, who the hell takes Gram Parsons in the second round?  :hot:  

ETA:  The song you would have taken was the other one I considered.
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simey may have, but not many others.

 
Manster said:
Looks like the list isn't updated......is Alice in Chains still on the board?  If so, I'm taking something from Jar of Flies.....I wanna take the entire EP, but I gotta choose one!  I'll go No Excuses
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I like Alice in Chains but my favourite version of basically every song of theirs is the MTV Unplugged version. They must have been just ridiculous live. 

 
Northern Voice said:
I like Alice in Chains but my favourite version of basically every song of theirs is the MTV Unplugged version. They must have been just ridiculous live. 
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Yea theirs and Nirvana's unplugged were exactly what unplugged was sposed to be.  

Jar of Flies came out when I was senior in HS.  It's always been some of my absolute favorite music.  I prolly should've picked Don't follow......every time I listen to it it gives me chills and I've heard it a billion times.

 
Manster said:
Yea theirs and Nirvana's unplugged were exactly what unplugged was sposed to be.  

Jar of Flies came out when I was senior in HS.  It's always been some of my absolute favorite music.  I prolly should've picked Don't follow......every time I listen to it it gives me chills and I've heard it a billion times.
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can't imagine why you can't change your mind

 
Nutshell- specifically the unplugged version is my favorite Chains. They are probably my favorite of the big Seattle grunge bands. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Nutshell- specifically the unplugged version is my favorite Chains. They are probably my favorite of the big Seattle grunge bands. 
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There's just something about Jar of Flies.....the stripped down version of Chains if you will...like unplugged....it hits harder.....Staley's soulful, painful voice....Cantrell bringing it all together.....perfection, imo

 
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El Floppo said:
thinking about 3 different picks now. I've drafted one of them recently, another in previous drafts... so I think I'll take one from a band I love that has a tremendous catalog that I don't remember drafting before. I won't hate you if you don't like them as many don't... or would've preferred their more obvious "best" song. 

3- Sonic Youth- Schizophrenia

I remember buying Sister LP without having heard a track yet. But I knew the band, and I dug the cover art. IIRC, this is song 1, side 1. and the way it starts with just the drums and builds, retreats and then roars into a screaming guitar assault while still keeping a great hook and pop melody... flat out knocked me down at first and every other listen. And no offense to Teenage Riot- another incredible song- it's the journey of the track that wins me over. And tbh- I prefer Bull in the Heather, but maybe because of the video. 
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This song was on my working list for 40 years of Post-Punk mix.

Sister is probably my favorite SY album although I love Murray St. and Daydream Nation too.

 
Northern Voice said:
I like Alice in Chains but my favourite version of basically every song of theirs is the MTV Unplugged version. They must have been just ridiculous live. 
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They were very good live - I saw them right after Layne Staley was in a bad car accident so he was onstage sitting in a wheel chair and singing while the rest of the band was running and jumping all over the stage.

 
Grunge unplugged ftw. I took Nirvana, AIC, PJ - 1,2,3 in a recent-ish draft. Came back with STP later. All unplugged. Never a bad time to listen to any, but agree with Manster about Layne's singing. The guy crushes me. Seen AIC twice without him, jealous of you who saw him live.

 
wikkidpissah said:
my grandfather always insisted, when i wanted to look up a word in the dictionary, that i read and try to learn the entire page that the word was on. even though i didnt appreciate it at the time, it was a lynchpin of my education

the highlight of these drafts is when someone picks Jeff Buckley, because it cues me to listen to Grace in its entirety. great as it is, i cant listen to it more often. it's like an acceptance speech - quotes and/or thanks so many people who touched him along the way, reveals a lifetime's aspiration without actually getting to the statement he wants to make. i missed Grace when it first came around, learned about him (except for the one song) from you guys and i cant bear to listen to it any more often than when it's mentioned here because i HATE wondering what we missed when his song sense wasnt allowed to catch up to his song wish. it would have killed us all...
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I'm just claiming this as my write-up.  :wub:  

 
shuke said:
I said I'd pick at night but had a few minutes during lunch today to catch up.  Will do write-up tonight.

2.?? Phish - Harry Hood
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I think I can safely say that Phish is my favorite band, because Grateful Dead is more than than, like my religion.

Phish has been a love of mine since the early 90's, I traded bootlegs, the whole bit.  But for one reason or another never saw them live over the years (one regret I have in life is the lack of live music I saw between 1999-2015).

I have been obsessed with this band since finally seeing them in 2017.  I have a small rotation of what my favorite song is at any point, and right now it's this.  

I understand people's perception of Phish, and a lot of it is warranted.  But this song isn't just aimless noodling.  The first 6 minutes are definitely composed, and then typically a 10 minute "jam" that doesn't usually stray out too far and really is one long building crescendo.  I can work out to this song, but can also fall asleep to it when high.  

It's also a great vehicle for the band's lighting rig and designer, Chris Kuroda.  He's often considered the band's "5th member", and while Phish can often be unpredictable in their playing, at times it's almost like CK is playing the band rather than reacting to it.  This video is a great example, especially the 10:00 - 13:00 part.

 
tuffnutt said:
Round 3- Just what I Needed  The Cars.

great song great band… will do proper write up later. 
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When I think of the Cars I always think of "Let's Go", seems so distinctively Cars to me and is one of their more timeless tracks IMHO. 

Heartbeat City was the second album I owned as a child.  I started really listening to music exactly when MTV started to become a thing.  MTV didn't play much older Cars, just Heartbeat City Cars.  Funny how the timing of your childhood can impact your perspective on many of these artists.  Same thing with Bowie, I only knew Let's Dance/Modern Love Bowie for a long time.

 
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Alice in Chains is the band I regret never seeing live the most.  Just really never had the opportunity.  

Agree with others that the "unplugged" AIC was some of their best work.   I've probably watched it 100 times.

 
squistion said:
I like Jeff Buckley, but if he had lived I doubt that he ever would have developed more than a cult following. It seemed to me that he avoided doing anything that even remotely had hit potential. The Grace LP peaked at #149 and none of the four singles released off of it even charted on Billboard Top 100 (although Last Goodbye reached #19 on US Alternative Airplay list). 

I don't think the LP he was working on at the time of his death would have fared much better with the public. He initially brought in Tom Verlaine to produce it, but scrapped those tracks entirely and started over again from scratch.

After listening to the Verlaine produced tracks, I think Buckley's dissatisfaction was due to the fact that it was too commercial sounding, which is amusing to me, as Verlaine has never come close to mainstream success. Nevertheless, some of songs he produced did have catchy hooks and had the potential of giving Buckley the commercial popularity that had eluded him.
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It's hard to project a career trajectory from one LP and a bunch of outtakes.  Even his limited output showed he was still evolving as a artist.

The music industry had changed a lot in the 90s so you're probably right that Buckley would have remained a cult artist in this country.  But his death came just before massive changes in the way audiences consumed music.  I think Buckley's idiosyncratic live performances would have fueled his popularity in the age of file sharing and music blogs. 

The numerous what if's and parallels with his father have helped fuel his legend (with an assist from his mother and Jeff's seemingly inexhaustible vault of demos).

 
Juxtatarot said:
3.24 The Cure Disintegration

"Just Like Heaven" is the best pop song but I've always thought his best songs were darker than the pop songs.  I considered "A Forest" and some of the songs off Pornography but decided on the title track of the best album ever and an illustration of Robert Smith at his musical peak.  
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Aw man, I was hoping to take Fascination Street with my next pick (granted it’s like 50 picks away). 

 
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