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THIS IS THEIR BEST SONG! - Music Draft - Saturday Night's Alright for iFighting (1 Viewer)

Eephus said:
It's hard to project a career trajectory from one LP and a bunch of outtakes.  Even his limited output showed he was still evolving as a artist.

The music industry had changed a lot in the 90s so you're probably right that Buckley would have remained a cult artist in this country.  But his death came just before massive changes in the way audiences consumed music.  I think Buckley's idiosyncratic live performances would have fueled his popularity in the age of file sharing and music blogs. 

The numerous what if's and parallels with his father have helped fuel his legend (with an assist from his mother and Jeff's seemingly inexhaustible vault of demos).
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Yeah, speaking of his father, Tim Buckley, that is another unanswered what if career trajectory question.

Tim Buckley bounced around various musical styles and had trouble finding and maintaining any type of consistent audience. 

According to what I've read, Tim Buckley's next project was going to be a live LP featuring the top songs over his 8 year career that worked the best in concert. That formula for a live release is what Peter Frampton did a few years later and propelled him to the top echelon of rock. I believe the same would have happened with Tim, but who knows as he never did what was expected or predicted and may have veered off in some other direction.

 
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Captain Cranks said:
Poop.  I'm really getting sniped lately.  Had The Boxer teed up in a few picks.

Can you imagine witnessing this three song Set at the Rock and Rock HoF.
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so epic

Has anybody been to one of the HOF inductions?   I'd imagine it's a tough ticket most years.

 
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Remember the weight of the world
It's a sound that we used to buy
And all that you can
All that you can give is a cold goodbye
The law enforcement's impressed you've survived to this age
Strapped-up soldiers
They'll lock you in a cage without a goodbye
For a nickel bribe
But aww no where are you tonight?
And how'd we get here?
It's too late to break it off
I need a release
The signal's a cough
But that don't get me off
I summon you here my love

 
3.x - Muse - Hysteria

I'm an unapologetic Muse fan (fight me), and I think the best Muse is loud & crunchy Muse. this song has the catchy hook and Matt's guitar work in the middle, but it's the unique bassline that makes it. the bass bops around the song almost independently of whatever else is happening. the bassline reminds me of my 6 year old nephew on the baseball field - while the rest of the team is focused on home plate waiting for the next pitch, he's in the outfield doing cartwheels.

speaking of baseball, I have this fantasy that if I ever made it to play major league baseball, this would be my walkup song. I can imagine the whole crowd yelling "I WANT IT NOW!" in unison as I stride to the plate, before I inevitably get caught looking at strike 3.

 
So tempting to commit attempted snipery with everyone spilling their themes.  Personally, my theme is to build a sonic-cohesive playlist after the first four or five picks, which means my first few picks can't be that divergent, but at the same time with these next two or three picks I need to stretch the envelope just a tad (reminder the first two stakes are Van Morrison and The Replacements).

A sampling I will go!

 
Mister CIA said:
So tempting to commit attempted snipery with everyone spilling their themes.  Personally, my theme is to build a sonic-cohesive playlist after the first four or five picks, which means my first few picks can't be that divergent, but at the same time with these next two or three picks I need to stretch the envelope just a tad (reminder the first two stakes are Van Morrison and The Replacements).

A sampling I will go!
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There are still some GOATs of their genre out there, in my opinion.  I'm really surprised by one in particular, but will likely pass because I don't feel qualified to take it.  

I'm having a blast with this, btw.  I never knew what I was missing.  

 
Captain Cranks said:
There are still some GOATs of their genre out there, in my opinion.  I'm really surprised by one in particular, but will likely pass because I don't feel qualified to take it.  

I'm having a blast with this, btw.  I never knew what I was missing.  
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Yeah, there are two MASSIVE goats hanging like a chads out there.  This would never happen if Sloop @John Bender were hanging around.

And now there's one.  Envelope stretched.

3.X - Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys

 
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We are a little one dimensional IMHO, so I'm going to add some diversity while you guys fight over the rock/R&B/Soul stuff.

Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good

Another artist that was played regularly on vinyl in our home growing up.   Her music is deeply personal to me and seems to be largely underappreciated by my generation.  I would play it in college and my friends thought I was weird AF and it certainly wasn't cool in the 90s, but I didn't care.   She's probably a top 5 vocalist for me with Aretha and a few others that haven't been selected yet.  

I chose this song as her best because I think it highlights her diversity as an artist and also gives glimpses at her amazing vocal range.   Is she soul/R&B/country/rock?   I also think the song has a timeless quality to it, at least for me.   

Prior Selections

Round 1:  Prince - Let's Go Crazy

Round 2:  Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again

 
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krista4 said:
I was shocked they hadn't been taken.  I would have chosen "God Only Knows," but it's one of my favorite songs.
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God Only Knows just does not reasonate with me, at all.  I listen to it and wonder what song I'll hear next. 

Personally, Sloop John B is my favorite Beach Boys song.  May switch to it if we're liberal with swicthing out songs once we have an artist in the stable; but my objective best-effort says it's Good Vibrations.

 
Mister CIA said:
Yeah, there are two MASSIVE goats hanging like a chads out there.  This would never happen if Sloop @John Bender were hanging around.

And now there's one.  Envelope stretched.

3.X - Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys
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My first concert ever!  They played the state fair and my parents took the kids!  I was 7ish.   

This is the exact song I would have picked.   I know a lot of critics are all over the stuff from Pet Sounds, but for me those aren't the songs that come top of mind when I think of the Beach Boys....we wore out our Beach Boys vinyl.   

 
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on Jeff Buckley's dad:

there's a good reason why most 60s folk music has not washed forward into most of our sensibilities, mostly that it's pedantic tripe blathered by pretentious autodidacts with more will than skill. the first music circuit i worked on was peopled by those acts who survived strumming for posterity and they usually shuddered with embarrassment over what came out of the coffeehouses besides the truly influential stuff. Jackson Browne was pretty much the most pretentious person i ever met (i've recounted John Prine's gleeful dissing of him before) and he thought Tim Buckley was a pretentious POS.

 
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TripItUp said:
We are a little one dimensional IMHO, so I'm going to add some diversity while you guys fight over the rock/R&B/Soul stuff.

Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good

Another artist that was played regularly on vinyl in our home growing up.   Her music is deeply personal to me and seems to be largely underappreciated by my generation.  I would play it in college and my friends thought I was weird AF and it certainly wasn't cool in the 90s, but I didn't care.   She's probably a top 5 vocalist for me with Aretha and a few others that haven't been selected yet.  

I chose this song as her best because I think it highlights her diversity as an artist and also gives glimpses at her amazing vocal range.   Is she soul/R&B/country/rock?   I also think the song has a timeless quality to it, at least for me.   
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Great pick!  I had this song on my list but it wasn't really fitting into my sonic-cohesive strategy.

 
Mister CIA said:
God Only Knows just does not reasonate with me, at all.  I listen to it and wonder what song I'll hear next. 

Personally, Sloop John B is my favorite Beach Boys song.  May switch to it if we're liberal with swicthing out songs once we have an artist in the stable; but my objective best-effort says it's Good Vibrations.
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"Sloop John B" is in my top two off of Pet Sounds. If I hadn't taken Daft Punk, I was going to take "Kiss Me, Baby." The Beach Boys weren't sitting on the sidelines for long, that's for sure.

 
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TripItUp said:
We are a little one dimensional IMHO, so I'm going to add some diversity while you guys fight over the rock/R&B/Soul stuff.

Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good

Another artist that was played regularly on vinyl in our home growing up.   Her music is deeply personal to me and seems to be largely underappreciated by my generation.  I would play it in college and my friends thought I was weird AF and it certainly wasn't cool in the 90s, but I didn't care.   She's probably a top 5 vocalist for me with Aretha and a few others that haven't been selected yet.  

I chose this song as her best because I think it highlights her diversity as an artist and also gives glimpses at her amazing vocal range.   Is she soul/R&B/country/rock?   I also think the song has a timeless quality to it, at least for me.   
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This is what I would have chosen for her, too. She was a powerhouse and the backing track is awesome on this record.

The two bolded comments above don't seem to line up, though.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
This is what I would have chosen for her, too. She was a powerhouse and the backing track is awesome on this record.

The two bolded comments above don't seem to line up, though.
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I think Ronstadt is one of those rare artists that crossed genres.    Most of the artists selected are distinctly rock or R&B.   

It's not a criticism, but I think Ronstadt sticks out from most of those selected thus far.  

 
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TripItUp said:
We are a little one dimensional IMHO, so I'm going to add some diversity while you guys fight over the rock/R&B/Soul stuff.

Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good

Another artist that was played regularly on vinyl in our home growing up.   Her music is deeply personal to me and seems to be largely underappreciated by my generation.  I would play it in college and my friends thought I was weird AF and it certainly wasn't cool in the 90s, but I didn't care.   She's probably a top 5 vocalist for me with Aretha and a few others that haven't been selected yet.  

I chose this song as her best because I think it highlights her diversity as an artist and also gives glimpses at her amazing vocal range.   Is she soul/R&B/country/rock?   I also think the song has a timeless quality to it, at least for me.   
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if i'd been in this, my first pick would have been this and my 2nd would have been Linnie's Someone to Lay Down Beside Me

 
wikkidpissah said:
i've got to do something to distract myself from responding to this

with the highly inappropriate "show him your cans", so i'll comment on Jeff Buckley's dad instead.

there's a good reason why most 60s folk music has not washed forward into most of our sensibilities, mostly that it's pedantic tripe blathered by pretentious autodidacts with more will than skill. the first music circuit i worked on was peopled by those acts who survived strumming for posterity and they usually shuddered with embarrassment over what came out of the coffeehouses besides the truly influential stuff. Jackson Browne was pretty much the most pretentious person i ever met (i've recounted John Prine's gleeful dissing of him before) and he thought Tim Buckley was a pretentious POS.
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Thank you. 

 
TripItUp said:
I think Ronstadt is one of those rare artists that crossed genres.    Most of the artists selected are distinctly rock or R&B.   

It's not a criticism, but I think Ronstadt is sticks out from most of those selected thus far.  
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I dunno, there seems to be awful lot of country and folk influenced music across what was typically lumped into the "rock" category - back in the mid-late 60s and early 70s.

I am not going to attempt to list them - but it's technically called a #### ton.  

 
Kind of funny that one of the better songwriters of the late 90's/aughts was Tim Armstrong. Dude can write a tune and is muy prolific.

 
TripItUp said:
I think Ronstadt is one of those rare artists that crossed genres.    Most of the artists selected are distinctly rock or R&B.   

It's not a criticism, but I think Ronstadt is sticks out from most of those selected thus far.  
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You're caught up in the genre game, but no matter - you picked a great record.

My problem with most of Linda's '70s hits was that she couldn't dial it back when needed. That wasn't necessarily her fault (in fact, I'm sure it wasn't - it's on her producers), but all we have are the records and many of them are just sand-blasted versions of songs that were done much better by others.

 
Binky The Doormat said:
I dunno, there seems to be awful lot of country and folk influenced music across what was typically lumped into the "rock" category - back in the mid-late 60s and early 70s.

I am not going to attempt to list them - but it's technically called a #### ton.  
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Sure, the country/rock merge in the 70s(and even since then) is well documented but what strikes me about Ronstadt is her R&B influences as a youth that came out in what I consider her best and most unique music which is why I chose the song that I did.  

 
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