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This type of stuff is why Miami is 0-13 (1 Viewer)

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December 10, 2007 Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 12:15 PM ET | LinkDOLPHINS UP LATE NIGHT BEFORE GAME: Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron in his infinite wisdom decided he would do something for his team Saturday, the day before their game with the Bills. In what has been a very trying season Cameron according to the Miami Herald got wind that a lot of his players wanted to watch the Floyd Mayweather and Ricky Hatton fight, so he arranged to have a local downtown venue near the hotel provide a private room for the team to take in the bout. Cameron must not have been aware that the fight wasn't going to begin until 11:30pm, and would last long past the usual 11pm curfew for most NFL teams the night before a game. It wasn't mandatory, but some players turned in before the fight was even over because they were too tired to stay up. Brilliant idea.
Posted at Buffalobills.com.Unbelievable. You have an 0-12 team and for some reason think that it's a good idea to allow your players to stay up late to watch a fight the night before a 1pm game. Brilliant! I know he was trying to do something nice for his players, but do nice things for them on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
It was a silly idea for sure, but at this point I am not sure if it matters whether or not they get a full night's sleep.

 
Maybe he wanted them to see someone, anyone, with some fight in them since they obviously don't know what that is from looking in the mirror.
:unsure: Earlier in the season they had some fight in them - 6 L's by 3 points.Lately, especially against the Jets & Bills, this team has given up - mailed it in.
 
Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.

Not sure when this disaster of a team wins a game.

 
December 10, 2007 Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 12:15 PM ET | LinkDOLPHINS UP LATE NIGHT BEFORE GAME: Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron in his infinite wisdom decided he would do something for his team Saturday, the day before their game with the Bills. In what has been a very trying season Cameron according to the Miami Herald got wind that a lot of his players wanted to watch the Floyd Mayweather and Ricky Hatton fight, so he arranged to have a local downtown venue near the hotel provide a private room for the team to take in the bout. Cameron must not have been aware that the fight wasn't going to begin until 11:30pm, and would last long past the usual 11pm curfew for most NFL teams the night before a game. It wasn't mandatory, but some players turned in before the fight was even over because they were too tired to stay up. Brilliant idea.
Posted at Buffalobills.com.Unbelievable. You have an 0-12 team and for some reason think that it's a good idea to allow your players to stay up late to watch a fight the night before a 1pm game. Brilliant! I know he was trying to do something nice for his players, but do nice things for them on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
Nothing wrong with this... I know after I see a good fight (Boxing, UFC, etc) I'm pumped up for a couple of days. At this pt... whats there to lose.
 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
 
Big Deal. He let the guys stay up past their bedtime so they could watch a fight. Give Cameron some credit. At least he did'nt slink away like Petrino.

 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
When your professional performance is dictated by your physical abilities, staying out late on a night before your weekly performance (one of only 16 the entire year) seems like a poor decision and is definitely another indication why they Dolphins are so sorry this year.
 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
When your professional performance is dictated by your physical abilities, staying out late on a night before your weekly performance (one of only 16 the entire year) seems like a poor decision and is definitely another indication why they Dolphins are so sorry this year.
I think the problem we are running into is people's definition of "staying out late."
 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
When your professional performance is dictated by your physical abilities, staying out late on a night before your weekly performance (one of only 16 the entire year) seems like a poor decision and is definitely another indication why they Dolphins are so sorry this year.
I think the problem we are running into is people's definition of "staying out late."
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
When your professional performance is dictated by your physical abilities, staying out late on a night before your weekly performance (one of only 16 the entire year) seems like a poor decision and is definitely another indication why they Dolphins are so sorry this year.
I think the problem we are running into is people's definition of "staying out late."
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
Sure, and I am sure the Fins playes might have been better off in bed at 11:00, than 12:30 or whatever.But I also know that NFL players, when on the road, don't have dinner at 6:00, say their prayers at 8:30, and lie in bed in their pajamas with the little booties at 9:30, dreaming about touchdowns. Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Giants, whoever.I am not applying the above statement to you, Andy, I am just pointing out that this would be a big deal if the Fins were gathering at a local bar, throwing back JaegerBombs till 4 in the morning. An organized team gathering to watch a boxing match? I see no problem with this at all.
 
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
Sure, and I am sure the Fins playes might have been better off in bed at 11:00, than 12:30 or whatever.But I also know that NFL players, when on the road, don't have dinner at 6:00, say their prayers at 8:30, and lie in bed in their pajamas with the little booties at 9:30, dreaming about touchdowns. Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Giants, whoever.I am not applying the above statement to you, Andy, I am just pointing out that this would be a big deal if the Fins were gathering at a local bar, throwing back JaegerBombs till 4 in the morning. An organized team gathering to watch a boxing match? I see no problem with this at all.
Aren't guys fined and/or benched (even if for a series or two) if they break curfew?
 
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.

This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
Sure, and I am sure the Fins playes might have been better off in bed at 11:00, than 12:30 or whatever.But I also know that NFL players, when on the road, don't have dinner at 6:00, say their prayers at 8:30, and lie in bed in their pajamas with the little booties at 9:30, dreaming about touchdowns. Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Giants, whoever.

I am not applying the above statement to you, Andy, I am just pointing out that this would be a big deal if the Fins were gathering at a local bar, throwing back JaegerBombs till 4 in the morning.

An organized team gathering to watch a boxing match? I see no problem with this at all.
Aren't guys fined and/or benched (even if for a series or two) if they break curfew?
I am sure it varies team to team, but Yes, I am sure all teams have punishments for breaking curfew. I am as sure of this as I am sure that all teams' players are not abiding by the curfew.And my point is that, of all the things contribuing to the Fins failure, I find it hard to find any significance in this item. I am not a Cam Cameron supporter, but I am fine with this move. Trying to hold a team together during a horrible season is more important than making sure all the players are locked in their rooms, 13 hours before a game.

 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
When your professional performance is dictated by your physical abilities, staying out late on a night before your weekly performance (one of only 16 the entire year) seems like a poor decision and is definitely another indication why they Dolphins are so sorry this year.
I think the problem we are running into is people's definition of "staying out late."
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
:confused: I am not sure how you would study this. Allow players different curfew times over multiple years to come up with 11 p.m. My guess is teams came up with what they thought was a reasonable time to turn in.
 
Like sticking to curfew was actually helping them...?

Might as well do stuff out of the ordinary to try and shake things up.

 
If a fight goes the distance, it's a 1 hour endeavor. Home and asleep by 2:00, 8 hourse of sleep. Up at 10:00 and to the stadium at 11:00? Big boys can handle that.

But, the team comraderie that comes from such an event is something to build on. I kind of like the move. The team support aspect is often overlooked. I think Cam recognized an opportunity to build a little. The issues on the 'fins go far beyond staying up late one week when they'are 0-12.

As for drafting a franchise QB, one named Quinn, instead of Ginn is overstated. Quinn is far fro a sure fire NFL QB. Was Ginn a good pick? We've got about 3 years before we can make a definitive assessment. But, one thing for sure, the 'fins could have drafted six starters this year, and still been as bad. Their cupboards are bard. They lost their starting RB and QB, and the RB was having a pretty good season. They could have won 5-6 games with Green and Brown playing all season. Of course they didn't, but to pretend this night, or this draft, somehow made them one of the worst teams in history is just wrong.

 
Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.
That is becoming a really dumb thing to say.
Not sure when this disaster of a team wins a game.
Really? You think?
Based on????? Maybe the fact that WRs drafted in the 2nd & 3rd round are outperforming him? Myabe on the fact that he has done nothing to support Cam's plan of some sort of Hester part 2? The only dumb thing is thinking that this guy should have been drafted in the top 10.

 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?

Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.

That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
Actually the fight didn't even start until about midnight.
 
I don't see an issue here. These are grown men right?
Agreed. These are professionals.And does anyone think all the players are in bed by 9 p.m. or something? On the road?

Hmmm, well, they were in Buffalo, so yeah, they probably would have been, but nonetheless, I am fine with this move by Cameron.

That fight was over by midnight anyways, wasn't it? This is not a big deal.
Actually the fight didn't even start until about midnight.
Gotcha. My mistake.
 
Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.
That is becoming a really dumb thing to say.
Andy, really.. On a team with holes all over the place, they let Welker go and then draft a guy that they pray may be as good with their top overall pick.... Best case sceario, Ginn is Santana Moss, and I was PISSED when the Jets drafed a Kick returner, hopeful decent WR at 19.

A player like that is a luxury on a team like this that needs beef all over the place.

Look at the next 6 picks or so in that draft .. Patrick Willis was the pick if they didn't want the QB.

 
There are many reason the Dolphins are where they are right now

-not a single player drafted from 2000-2003 on the team right now - not one

-4 different coaches in the last 4 years

Watching the fight as a team is definitely not a reason they are 0-13 right now.

 
There are many reason the Dolphins are where they are right now-not a single player drafted from 2000-2003 on the team right now - not one-4 different coaches in the last 4 yearsWatching the fight as a team is definitely not a reason they are 0-13 right now.
:( Wanstedt started this team into a downward spiral. Saban didn't improve anything and Camerons been there a year. You don't get this bad overnight. They've worked hard to get to this level. As for Ginn replacing Welker, he may. Ginn's is not talentless, and Cameron saw the team was building for the future. I dont' love the Ginn pick and Willis would have been a far better pick, both short and long term. But, Beck in the 2nd? I liked it. Time will tell if it was right, but theis team is at least 2-3 draftsf rom even 9-10 wins. Can these players contribute? Maybe. Can setting an atmosphere of team comraderie, led by the coach help? Probably more than any single draft.
 
Andy, really.. On a team with holes all over the place, they let Welker go and then draft a guy that they pray may be as good with their top overall pick.... Best case sceario, Ginn is Santana Moss, and I was PISSED when the Jets drafed a Kick returner, hopeful decent WR at 19.A player like that is a luxury on a team like this that needs beef all over the place.Look at the next 6 picks or so in that draft .. Patrick Willis was the pick if they didn't want the QB.
Maybe I'm just reading it more of a criticism of Ginn than of the Dolphins. I can agree, I guess, that the Dolphins would have been better served going in a different direction.I won't argue that letting Welker go was their first mistake. But really, Ginn is showing flashes of being a game breaker. They wouldn't take Willis with Zach Thomas still on the roster.If anything, they should have taken Darrelle Revis.
 
Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.
That is becoming a really dumb thing to say.
Not sure when this disaster of a team wins a game.
Really? You think?
Based on????? Maybe the fact that WRs drafted in the 2nd & 3rd round are outperforming him? Myabe on the fact that he has done nothing to support Cam's plan of some sort of Hester part 2? The only dumb thing is thinking that this guy should have been drafted in the top 10.
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Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.
That is becoming a really dumb thing to say.
Why? You don't think the Dolphins would like to have that pick back?
I think Ginn was worth being a top 10 pick. Probably not to the Dolphins though.There. Now we can all be friends again.

 
Still doesn't top the drafting of Ted Ginn in the 1st round, Beck in the 2nd and starting Miss Cleo the Lemon at QB. They have absolutely no idea if they need to draft a franchise QB.
That is becoming a really dumb thing to say.
Why? You don't think the Dolphins would like to have that pick back?
I think Ginn was worth being a top 10 pick. Probably not to the Dolphins though.There. Now we can all be friends again.
That's fine. I have nothing against Ted Ginn. It's just that as a Bills fan, I still can't believe they didn't take Brady Quinn. Between the Miami Dolphins and Notre Dame, 2007 has been one of my favorite football seasons of all time.

 
Andy, really.. On a team with holes all over the place, they let Welker go and then draft a guy that they pray may be as good with their top overall pick.... Best case sceario, Ginn is Santana Moss, and I was PISSED when the Jets drafed a Kick returner, hopeful decent WR at 19.A player like that is a luxury on a team like this that needs beef all over the place.Look at the next 6 picks or so in that draft .. Patrick Willis was the pick if they didn't want the QB.
Maybe I'm just reading it more of a criticism of Ginn than of the Dolphins. I can agree, I guess, that the Dolphins would have been better served going in a different direction.I won't argue that letting Welker go was their first mistake. But really, Ginn is showing flashes of being a game breaker. They wouldn't take Willis with Zach Thomas still on the roster.If anything, they should have taken Darrelle Revis.
I'd agree. Ginn looks like a rookie, and he was slow to come on. But, I see a guy with some play making ability. Quinn on the other hand. He's busy on Sunday, but doing what, I don't know. Maybe he's taping games for Cleveland? The Quinn pick to me wasn't the no brainer many make it out to be.
 
Quinn on the other hand. He's busy on Sunday, but doing what, I don't know. Maybe he's taping games for Cleveland? The Quinn pick to me wasn't the no brainer many make it out to be.
He's busy doing what Carson Palmer did his first year - learning.
Come on. It was a joke. He made the commercial, not me. He's doing what almost all rookie QB's should do. I get that. I still don't think he was a no brainer pick though. do I love the Ginn pick? No. But, I'm not in the camp that feels it was a historically bad pick either.
 
There's a reason why NFL teams have established an 11 o'clock curfew. It allows for peak physical performance.This stuff is studied - not made up out of thin air.
Sure, and I am sure the Fins playes might have been better off in bed at 11:00, than 12:30 or whatever.But I also know that NFL players, when on the road, don't have dinner at 6:00, say their prayers at 8:30, and lie in bed in their pajamas with the little booties at 9:30, dreaming about touchdowns. Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Giants, whoever.I am not applying the above statement to you, Andy, I am just pointing out that this would be a big deal if the Fins were gathering at a local bar, throwing back JaegerBombs till 4 in the morning. An organized team gathering to watch a boxing match? I see no problem with this at all.
Aren't guys fined and/or benched (even if for a series or two) if they break curfew?
From the result it would appear that the Fins' players were benched for at least a few series'. Maybe they were just told to not try for those ones instead of officially benching them. ;)
 
Quinn on the other hand. He's busy on Sunday, but doing what, I don't know. Maybe he's taping games for Cleveland? The Quinn pick to me wasn't the no brainer many make it out to be.
He's busy doing what Carson Palmer did his first year - learning.
Come on. It was a joke. He made the commercial, not me. He's doing what almost all rookie QB's should do. I get that. I still don't think he was a no brainer pick though. do I love the Ginn pick? No. But, I'm not in the camp that feels it was a historically bad pick either.
Sorry, I didn't get it. :lmao: I think we agree on both Ginn and Quinn. Hey, is there any chance the Dolphins got confused on draft day and took the wrong guy since their names sound so similar. "Ginn!? NO! I said Quinn!! :lmao: Well, I guess I'll go explain the pick..."

 
I'm not a Dolphin fan, but if my NFL team was watching a boxing match the night before the game while 0-13. I'd be pissed, do something football related watch film, just show your fans some sort of fire that you actually care that you are 0-13

 

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