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Thoughts On Picking Specific Race And Gender For Supreme Court Judge (1 Viewer)

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Gilroy34

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He says he wants to only consider black females for the supreme court.  Seems like the definition of racism.

 
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Imagine if Trump said he would only consider white males.

Guessing it is just another embarrassing mistake by Biden as even the Democrats disagree and think he should consider all candidates.

 
Gilroy34 said:
Imagine if Trump said he would only consider white males.

Guessing it is just another embarrassing mistake by Biden as even the Democrats disagree and think he should consider all candidates.
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Or if Reagan had said he would only consider a female, how embarrassing that would might have been...Oh, wait...

 
Racist?  I dunno, but he's using identity politics to score points.....seems like you'd want to find the best candidate regardless of gender, or skin color, but this is how the left operates.....

 
Gilroy34 said:
He says he wants to only consider black females for the supreme court.  Seems like the definition of racism.
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Gilroy34 said:
Imagine if Trump said he would only consider white males.

Guessing it is just another embarrassing mistake by Biden as even the Democrats disagree and think he should consider all candidates.
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This was only talked about for about 10 pages in the SCOTUS thread, do we really need more?

 
squistion said:
Or if Reagan had said he would only consider a female, how embarrassing that would might have been...Oh, wait...
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That wasn't what he said.  He said he would consider women candidates and he would appoint a women with one of his earliest picks. 

 
squistion said:
Or if Reagan had said he would only consider a female, how embarrassing that would might have been...Oh, wait...
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DIRECT HEADLINE: ‘Lock the S.O.B.s Up’: Joe Biden and the Era of Mass Incarceration

He now plays down his role overhauling crime laws with segregationist senators in the ’80s and ’90s. That portrayal today is at odds with his actions and rhetoric back then.

By Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Astead W. Herndon June 25, 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/joe-biden-crime-laws.html

Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, commonly referred to as the 1994 Crime Bill, the Clinton Crime Bill, or the Biden Crime Law, is an Act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement; it became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act

DIRECT HEADLINE: Biden defends crime bill amid criticism from Democratic foes and Trump

By Eric Bradner and Jeff Zeleny, CNN June 6, 2019

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/politics/joe-biden-crime-bill-2020-campaign/index.html

“That 1994 crime bill (authored by Biden) – it did contribute to mass incarceration ( of specifically African Americans) in our country,” California (Senator) Kamala Harris said recently. “It (deeply) encouraged and was the (very) first time that we (as a government) had a federal three-strikes law. It (also) funded the building of more prisons in the states.”

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Joe Biden authored or coauthored nearly all of the major crime bills in modern American political history, including the 1994 Crime Bill, which sent countless African Americans, particularly young black men, to prison. He relentlessly defended his participation until it was no longer politically expedient, then he simply pretended he never supported any of it.

When Biden and his administration talk about systematic racism and the Republican threat of "white nationalism", the activist complicit left leaning MSM hilariously pretends like Biden did not create much of the "systematic racism" that all of 2020 couldn't stop yelling and shouting and looting and rioting over.

Many of those small business owners who were destroyed by the rioting and looting in 2020 and into 2021 were minority owned. The same rioting and looting that Biden, Harris and the rest casually dismissed because it was to their political advantage to do so at the time.

Joe Biden has contributed more to harm Black America than any other current elected official in power inside America as of today.

 
The General said:
Great thread. Pin it!
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DIRECT HEADLINE: Biden’s ties to segregationist senator spark campaign tension

Joe Biden has described his relationship with Sen. James Eastland, a well-known segregationist, as one he "had to put up with." But letters between the two men show a different kind of relationship.

by Matt Viser and Annie Linskey, Washington Post Jun 20, 2019

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/nation/joe-biden-james-eastland-segregation-democratic-primary-20190621.html

The recipient of ( then Congressman) Biden's entreaty was (then Senator) James Eastland, at the time a well-known (public) segregationist who had called (all) blacks "an inferior race" and once (openly) vowed to prevent blacks and whites from eating together in Washington.

James Eastland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Eastland#Opposition_to_civil_rights

In 1944, Eastland (openly) claimed the "Negro race" was an inferior race... and like most ( to many )of his Southern colleagues ( in Congress), opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...Eastland, along with (complicit) senators Robert Byrd, John McClellan, Olin D. Johnston, Sam Ervin, and Strom Thurmond, made (several) unsuccessful attempts to block confirmation of Thurgood Marshall to (both) the Second Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court.

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Something I taught my godson when he was young that the fastest way to smell like garbage is to stand next to trash.

We are judged in life by the company we keep. That's a lesson that extends beyond politics and is often a reliable predictor of future behavior.

Biden found it politically expedient for his career to lick the boots of known racists. That's the company he chose to keep. He doesn't get to pretend like it doesn't exist and he doesn't get to pretend like it doesn't reflect on him overall.

 
massraider said:
And what about Ladies Night? Ladies drink free? Totally unfair
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DIRECT HEADLINE: Biden Rejects Calls to Apologize for Praise of Segregationist

2020 rivals slam the former vice president, who spoke fondly of the “civility” of his relationship with a Mississippi senator who once called to “abolish the Negro race”

By Tim Dickinson June 19, 2019 9:56PM ET

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/why-did-biden-praise-racist-senator-booker-deblasio-850220/

DIRECT HEADLINE: Biden Refuses To Apologise For Working With Racist Senators

BBC 20 June 2019

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696126

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Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Biden spends his early political career being an errand boy for known racists and segregationists in Congress.

Speaking of your cheap attempt at derailing and "Ladies Night", there's a larger context to all of this. Biden pretends like his long history with racists never happened. Just he ignored the 19 million women in Afghanistan left for war brides ( most of them are actually children and terrorists are gang raping them right now)  And just like the Southern Border where 11 and 12 year old girls are being raped by the coyotes, Cartel members and career criminals just waltzing into America in the middle of a worldwide pandemic.

If you are a terrorist or a drug dealer or a career criminal, somewhere in the big bad world, who likes to rape and sodomize minority little girls, then Joe Biden ascending to POTUS and his entire career of failed public policy was the best thing to ever happen to you in your entire life.

This right after he created the system that weaponized "for profit" prisons to selectively target young black men in America for incarceration. It wasn't just boot licking those known racist power brokers in Congress, it was further appeasing them by actual public policy that helped to crush Black America.

If Joe Biden is somehow called "not a racist" in this thread by some, then I'm very curious to know what those people would define as an actual racist.

 
As I said in the other thread.  Probably time.  And I'm fine with an  AA woman getting the nod, if she's qualified of course.

I don't like the virtue signaling.  He should just do it.  Not announce that he is going to do it.  It peeves the right, and it virtue signals to the left.  If he had just done it, it would have been better IMO.

Now, of course I know virtue signaling is a large part of the democratic platform, especially with blacks, so I get it.  And he did campaign on it, which makes it hard.  Especially when his own party is rattling chains less than 4 hours after this position was announced to be available.    

 
Manster said:
Racist?  I dunno, but he's using identity politics to score points.....seems like you'd want to find the best candidate regardless of gender, or skin color, but this is how the left operates.....
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I'm not sure what qualifications would make one individual be the "best candidate" and why that is important here. 

 
supermike80 said:
As I said in the other thread.  Probably time.  And I'm fine with an  AA woman getting the nod, if she's qualified of course.

I don't like the virtue signaling.  He should just do it.  Not announce that he is going to do it.  It peeves the right, and it virtue signals to the left.  If he had just done it, it would have been better IMO.

Now, of course I know virtue signaling is a large part of the democratic platform, especially with blacks, so I get it.  And he did campaign on it, which makes it hard.  Especially when his own party is rattling chains less than 4 hours after this position was announced to be available.    
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:goodposting:

 
I’m ok with it but on that basis think he can’t choose a black person because that would over represent black people on the court.  He’s creating a court that doesn’t look like America.

 
djmich said:
I’m ok with it but on that basis think he can’t choose a black person because that would over represent black people on the court.  He’s creating a court that doesn’t look like America.
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You're right.  Black people make up 12.1% of the population.  Two black Justices would give them 18%.  That is completely not what America looks like.

Of course, I'm kidding but I'm going by the standards that the left has set.  :shrug:   Everything must be equitable (unless it benefits us, then we should get an advantage)!!!

 
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supermike80 said:
Now, of course I know virtue signaling is a large part of the democratic platform, especially with blacks, so I get it.  And he did campaign on it, which makes it hard.  Especially when his own party is rattling chains less than 4 hours after this position was announced to be available.    
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It's going to be interesting to see if Republicans can keep making gains among Asians and Hispanics.  These are two groups that are just sitting out there waiting to be realigned.

Like, say you're an Asian voter.  Republicans might make some cringey jokes about your eyelids or something.  Meanwhile, Democrats want to keep your kids out of elite colleges, are reluctant to punish people who commit street crimes (often targeting Asian victims), and won't even look at you when it comes to filling judicial vacancies.  It seems like this is a demographic group that ought to be in play.

 
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IvanKaramazov said:
It's going to be interesting to see if Republicans can keep making gains among Asians and Hispanics.  These are two groups that are just sitting out there waiting to be realigned.

Like, say you're an Asian voter.  Republicans might make some cringey jokes about your eyelids or something.  Meanwhile, Democrats want to keep your kids out of elite colleges, are reluctant to punish people who commit street crimes (often targeting Asian victims), and won't even look at you when it comes to filling judicial vacancies.  It seems like this is a demographic group that ought to be in play.
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Except the narrative right now seems to be asians are being attacked by white supremacists, which of course is associated with the republican party.  Even if really neither of those things are true, that's the media's push right now.

 
Gilroy34 said:
Imagine if Trump said he would only consider white males.

Guessing it is just another embarrassing mistake by Biden as even the Democrats disagree and think he should consider all candidates.
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The entire process of nominating a Supreme Court Justice calls for reform. Republicans will only consider "conservative" justices and Democrats only "liberal" justices, unless the Senate is controlled by Republicans then no liberal or even moderate Justice is qualified. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of people qualified for the job. Out of those, there are several diversity candidates who are qualified. This is not lowering the bar.

 
supermike80 said:
As I said in the other thread.  Probably time.  And I'm fine with an  AA woman getting the nod, if she's qualified of course.

I don't like the virtue signaling.  He should just do it.  Not announce that he is going to do it.  It peeves the right, and it virtue signals to the left.  If he had just done it, it would have been better IMO.

Now, of course I know virtue signaling is a large part of the democratic platform, especially with blacks, so I get it.  And he did campaign on it, which makes it hard.  Especially when his own party is rattling chains less than 4 hours after this position was announced to be available.    
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Totally agree here...he should just do it.

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
I'm not sure what qualifications would make one individual be the "best candidate" and why that is important here. 
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There are probably hundreds of "best candidates".  Joe should have kept his mouth shut because I'm sure said black female would prefer to be thought of as qualified based upon "best candidate" rather than "black female".

 
BassNBrew said:
I'm sure said black female would prefer to be thought of as qualified based upon "best candidate" rather than "black female".
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I am sure whomever is the nominee will be delighted to accept the position.

I am also confident that whomever the nominee ends up being - she will be eminently qualified (and she will know she is qualified.)

 
Sinn Fein said:
Do you think its fair that Biden has eliminated all conservative candidates from consideration?
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I wish judges weren't so predictable that we can call the conservative/liberal.  

I also wish we didn't have as many "split decisions" or that the judges were force to deliberate everyday until there was a clear majority on most rulings.

 
BassNBrew said:
There are probably hundreds of "best candidates".  Joe should have kept his mouth shut because I'm sure said black female would prefer to be thought of as qualified based upon "best candidate" rather than "black female".
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Eek...Never thought about that.   

 
Reagan did it 35 years ago, using his words/promises to get votes

but we wasn't politically correct then, in todays touchy feely world, to cast aside and not even consider someone because of their gender or skin color ....  its racist, its sexist, liberals and conservatives both should rally to ban such a thing and to beat down Biden for saying it

 
Sinn Fein said:
how so?

Do you think the nominee will think she is unqualified?
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Interesting replies.  

You are probably one of the most liberal posters here and and it comes off as you supporting the color of a person's skin being the most important hiring criteria.

You have a few conservative and independent posters saying it's cool he's hiring a black female, we just wish he wouldn't parade that around as the reason she's getting the job over other people.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
It's going to be interesting to see if Republicans can keep making gains among Asians and Hispanics.  These are two groups that are just sitting out there waiting to be realigned.

Like, say you're an Asian voter.  Republicans might make some cringey jokes about your eyelids or something.  Meanwhile, Democrats want to keep your kids out of elite colleges, are reluctant to punish people who commit street crimes (often targeting Asian victims), and won't even look at you when it comes to filling judicial vacancies.  It seems like this is a demographic group that ought to be in play.
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I attended a Chinese new year festival this last weekend located on the border of Missouri City, Texas(25% asian) and Sugar Land, Texas(37% asian). I thought it was odd, but the republican party had one of the largest booths in the very center of the festival. I bet they paid the most money for that booth.

 
BassNBrew said:
Interesting replies.  

You are probably one of the most liberal posters here and and it comes off as you supporting the color of a person's skin being the most important hiring criteria.

You have a few conservative and independent posters saying it's cool he's hiring a black female, we just wish he wouldn't parade that around as the reason she's getting the job over other people.
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I have never said its "the most important criteria" - but I have no issues with it being a criteria.

In the end - someone always gets picked above the others for a whole variety of reasons.  This is not a "sky is falling" moment.  Its a good thing to nominate a black woman - if she is qualified, and there are many black women who are qualified.

And, I have already acknowledged that he did so (made the proclamation) for political gain.  It worked.  He won South Carolina, and with it the Democratic Nomination.

Following through with that promise could very well cement his support for a 2024 run, if he so chooses.

 
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