Threat against my son - am I wrong to be freaking out? (1 Viewer)

[Officer Pete Malloy]

How, of all people, does Tanner get fished by over-discipline-of-special-needs-kids shtick?

It's easy when there are a lot of really stupid people in the thread.

 

[T Bell]

How, of all people, does Tanner get fished by over-discipline-of-special-needs-kids shtick?

It's easy when there are a lot of really stupid people in the thread.

And that's different from all of the other advice threads...?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

How, of all people, does Tanner get fished by over-discipline-of-special-needs-kids shtick?

It's easy when there are a lot of really stupid people in the thread.

And that's different from all of the other advice threads...?

True. Carry on.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

How, of all people, does Tanner get fished by over-discipline-of-special-needs-kids shtick?

I just chalked it up to some meta-shtick that was my puny brain can't understand. Like he has finally hit the shtick equivalent of walking around the earth, so he's back to the same place he started from.

 

[Mario Kart]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev?

The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev?

Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'.

I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

You mad, bro?

 

[Limp Ditka]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev?

The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev?

Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'.

I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

You mad, bro?

Ignorant and unoriginal. Great combo you got going there

 

[Mario Kart]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev?

The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev?

Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'.

I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

You mad, bro?

Ignorant and unoriginal. Great combo you got going there

You mad, bro?

 

[Clayton Gray]

Today is his last day at the school.

Excellent. So glad to hear that.

I would follow up with the teacher that did nothing - completely unacceptable.

 

[bigbottom]

Thanks.

Haven't heard what the teacher's response was yet. But did hear that when the school met with Greg's mother this afternoon, she indicated that the teacher had contacted her to make her aware of the threat. So the teacher contacted Greg's mom, but didn't advise the administration or make us aware that the threat had been directed at our son.

 

[EYLive]

I read bb's OP but work got in the way of keeping up with the other 7 pages.

Can someone be so kind as to provide a Cliff's Notes version of who called who what name, and updates about bb Jr. and Greg would be nice too.

(I will rate you 5 stars, that's all I can offer aside from a PM w/ links to my nudes)

TIA

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Thanks. Haven't heard what the teacher's response was yet. But did hear that when the school met with Greg's mother this afternoon, she indicated that the teacher had contacted her to make her aware of the threat. So the teacher contacted Greg's mom, but didn't advise the administration or make us aware that the threat had been directed at our son.

Hopefully Greg's mom is able to spend some of that private school money on some help for her kid. And if they are both being abused as others have guessed, that this isn't just a downward spiral.

 

[Clifford]

You are not freaking out enough. I would get with other parents to demand that Greg be immediately expelled and the teacher who kept a lid on this be fired immediately. If they say no lawyer up and sue the #### out of the school. This is complete and total negligence on part of the school and teacher. I would also call police immediately and tell them nothing is being done and your son has been physically assaulted. Get on this NOW.

A disturbing story unfolding involving threats against my 10-year-old son by another kid in his fifth grade class. I'm concerned, worried and mad, but suspect that I may need a bit of a gut check. Here's the situation: My son goes to a small private school. There are only 25 boys in fifth grade, and they're all in the same class. This year, several new students joined the class. One of them, we'll call him Greg, has had behavioral issues the entire school year. This has been reported to us, not by the school administration, but from my son, the other boys in his class, and their parents. The issues are primarily anger management and impulse control problems. Every little thing will cause him to lose his temper. Gets tagged out in dodgeball, he'll start cussing and swearing at the other kids. It's not uncommon for him to scream things like I hate this school and I hate all of you. He's instigated at least two physical confrontations: he punched another boy in the face, and he hit my son in the face. He swears regularly - not in casual conversation like some boys his age, but rather at people in anger. When he gets angry, his face gets red and he clenches his fists. And he's also physically imposing. Much taller, bigger and stronger than most of the boys in his class. The boys in the class, including my son, are afraid of him. And all indications are that this is not a situtation where the new kid is getting bullied - quite the opposite. With respect to the two incidents where he punched his classmates, the teacher was notified, but he did not receive detention or any other punishment that we're aware of. Most of the other behavior goes unreported, in part because of the intimidation factor. Okay, these issues are a concern, but nothing too crazy. The kid's got anger issues and impulse control problems. Okay. But in the past day, I've learned that Greg has really been focusing his anger on my son. As stupid as it is, there is a girl in the fifth grade that Greg has a fixation on. He says that he is madly in love with her and can't live without her (his words). Well, this girl happens to like my son. (Seriously, these kids are freaking ten years old.) As a result, Greg has verbally expressed his hatred of my son. And not only in these uncontrolled outbursts. Last weekend, my son had a sleepover at a friend's house. They were playing XBox online and apparently Greg was on. He told my son, in a very measured tone "I may be nice to you on the outside, but inside, I deeply hate you." My son is afraid of him, and does his best to avoid him at school, which is difficult since they're in every class together. So yesterday is when things got escalated. He stated to a couple of kids in the class: "If it were legal, I'd strangle [my son's name] and kill him." The kids he said this to were freaked out. They told a couple other kids in the class and then one of them went to the teacher to report the threatening statement. The kids said that the teacher confronted Greg, he denied it, and then turned around and dropped the F-bomb. Later that day, Greg confronted the kid who reported him and got in his face with fists clenched, threatening him for being a tattle tale. As far as we are aware, Greg did not receive detention or any other punishment for making the threat. My son had a track meet yesterday, so he went straight from school to the meet and we didn't see him. Shortly after the school day ended, my wife received calls from multiple parents to ask her if she was aware of what happened (she wasn't). Apparently, a number of the students in my son's class had gone home and reported the day's events to their parents. Obviously my wife was freaked out, and the parents she spoke to are freaked out as well, because it is common knowledge that this kid has issues. What floors me is that we were notified of the threat against our child not by the school, but by other parents in the class. The other piece of the puzzle that concerns me is that Greg had a birthday party a few months ago. The birthday party was held at a gun range where the boys would be firing pistols and rifles. Not BB guns, or AirSoft - actual handguns and rifles. Now I live in Texas, and pretty much everyone has a gun here. My 10-year-old has a .22 rifle that he shots when he goes to his grandpa's ranch. But a fifth grade birthday party at the gun range is a bit nuts, even for Texas. My son had no interest in going and from what I understand a number of other parents didn't let their kids go. I've never met Greg's dad. Greg's parents are divorced and he lives with his mom. His mom seems extremely nice. So this morning we ask for a meeting with the school administration. They know nothing about any problems with Greg. Nothing has been reported to them by the fifth grade teacher. They were not aware of yesterday's threat, and were floored that they had not been made aware of it. And during the meeting, reference was made that before Greg started at the school this year, there were discussions with his mother about problems at prior schools, though the details were not disclosed to us for confidentiality reasons. So perhaps the kid has been expelled from prior schools. At the very least, it appears that there were problems. They assured us that they would take immediate steps to investigate and assess the situation. We made no demands as to what action should be taken, and are waiting to hear back. I'm definitely in the boys will be boys camp. I blew off the prior physical confrontations because, even though hitting people in the face isn't common at our school, it wasn't all that uncommon when I was growing up. But these recent revelations have me very worried. We have a kid with obvious anger management and impulse control issues. He apparently has a history of these issues at past schools. He verbally expresses hatred. He has focused that hatred on my son. He has verbally articulated a threat to kill my son (whether veiled, conditional, whatever). And he made that threat not in the middle of a confrontation or an outburst when someone might say stupid things. He referenced killing my son calmly, in conversation. And he's a gun nut. I think you'd have to be a gun nut to want to have your 11th birthday party at a gun range with firearms. I have no idea what access this kid has to gunds or other weapons, but I have to assume that they are in the house. So my question to the FFA: Am I wrong to be freaking out about this? p.s. Apologies for the length, and for any typos as I'm not proofreading this. p.p.s. And one other odd fact. The track season is almost over. There is one more meet. My son is only one of three boys from his class on the team. Apparently, yesterday, when the season is just about over, Greg decided to join the track team. He didn't go to yesterday's meet as it was too late. But it's odd to join a sport so late in the year. Could it be that he wants to get closer to my son, particularly when they will be off campus and largely unsupervised? Probably not, but it's a nagging question.

 

[Clifford]

The teacher should have let you and the admin know ASAP. But glad the kid is gone now. Hope your son and other kids are feeling as relieved as I know you must be feeling.

Thank God. Greg sounds like the freaking antichrist.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

The teacher should have let you and the admin know ASAP. But glad the kid is gone now. Hope your son and other kids are feeling as relieved as I know you must be feeling.

Thank God. Greg sounds like the freaking antichrist.

Is he gone? I didn't see where the OP indicated that

 

[Clifford]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev? The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev? Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'. I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

You mad, bro?

Ignorant and unoriginal. Great combo you got going there

You mad, bro?

I second all points he made. Guess I'm mad too. Must be because I am so white I have expectations of people. What a ####### honky I am.

 

[Funkley]

Glad the kid is gone but not a bad lesson for your son to learn either. Won't be the last "Greg" in his life.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

The teacher should have let you and the admin know ASAP. But glad the kid is gone now. Hope your son and other kids are feeling as relievedas I know you must be feeling.

Thank God. Greg sounds like the freaking antichrist.

Is he gone? I didn't see where the OP indicated that

think he said they were booting him out of school.

 

[Hawks64]

Send your son to mma training and have him dislocate Greg's elbow.I'm not even joking. Fuming mad for you big bottom.

Maybe you should go over there and sweep the leg, red dragon

Greg is a garbage human being, and likely unredeemable. Perhaps, just perhaps, he have a chance a redemption and humility with a 9 month rehab.The older I get, the less interest I have in attempting to reach a zero like this kid.

Do you feel the same way about people with physical disabilities?

Are you suggesting that Greg just needs the psychological version of artificial limbs or lifts?

No. I'm suggesting that HE IS A 10 ####ING YEAR OLD KID with serious problems. Whether they're caused by his environment or a chemical imbalance or a disease or a gypsy curse the kid needs serious help.

Smack Tripper calling this 10 YEAR OLD KID "garbage" and "a zero" (along with advocating physical violence against him) makes me sick.

What does it say about our society if this is how we react to a 10 year old kid who needs obvious help? Sure write off his Mom and the other adults in his life but to advocate throwing away a child's life because it's going to take hard work to help is pathetic.

 

[bigbottom]

The teacher should have let you and the admin know ASAP. But glad the kid is gone now. Hope your son and other kids are feeling as relieved as I know you must be feeling.

Thank God. Greg sounds like the freaking antichrist.

Is he gone? I didn't see where the OP indicated that

Updated near the bottom of page 3. By noon, the school had made the decision and he was asked to leave at the end of the day.

 

[meanjoegreen]

You are not freaking out enough. I would get with other parents to demand that Greg be immediately expelled and the teacher who kept a lid on this be fired immediately. If they say no lawyer up and sue the #### out of the school. This is complete and total negligence on part of the school and teacher. I would also call police immediately and tell them nothing is being done and your son has been physically assaulted. Get on this NOW.

Fortunately, he didn't react this way.

 

[The Goat]

Still catching up on all the replies, but just got off a call with the principal. I don't have all the details, but he said they spoke with the teacher and interviewed the boys in the class individually (not sure whether it was some or all of them) and were shocked to hear what has been going on with this child. He stated that this student is extremely troubled and very much in need of help, and that while this is a very sad situation, this school is not the appropriate place for him to get that help. Today is his last day at the school. Again, he did not provide all the details of what he learned, but made it very apparent that it was extremely disturbing and that while the conversation will be difficult, the decision was an easy one. He stated that his primary responsibility as a school administrator was to ensure the safety of their students and that based on what he has learned, he must be asked to leave.

I feel bad for the kid, and his mom. But my child's safety is paramount, and given the tenor of my conversation with the principal, I feel even more strongly that the right decision has been made.

By the way, he confirmed that he had not been made aware of any of the things that have been going on with this student, and expressed disappointment that he had to hear about it first from a parent.

The bolded is the only thing you need to be concerned about. Feeling bad about it isn't necessary. As a smart man once said to me, "I'm the nicest guy you'll ever meet, but if it comes down to your kid or my kid, my kid's gonna eat."

 

[The Goat]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

You offer many criticisms, but no solutions. What would you have done?

 

[Novice2]

I read bb's OP but work got in the way of keeping up with the other 7 pages. Can someone be so kind as to provide a Cliff's Notes version of who called who what name, and updates about bb Jr. and Greg would be nice too. (I will rate you 5 stars, that's all I can offer aside from a PM w/ links to my nudes) TIA

i got some kid would like to strangle and kill FBGer kid if it were legal. White people problem. Teacher Informed strangling kids mom about threats but not FBGer kids parents or school administration. Kids last day today. Now the witch hunt is on for the teacher.

 

[quickhands]

Send your son to mma training and have him dislocate Greg's elbow.I'm not even joking. Fuming mad for you big bottom.

Maybe you should go over there and sweep the leg, red dragon

Greg is a garbage human being, and likely unredeemable. Perhaps, just perhaps, he have a chance a redemption and humility with a 9 month rehab.The older I get, the less interest I have in attempting to reach a zero like this kid.

Do you feel the same way about people with physical disabilities?

Are you suggesting that Greg just needs the psychological version of artificial limbs or lifts?

No. I'm suggesting that HE IS A 10 ####ING YEAR OLD KID with serious problems. Whether they're caused by his environment or a chemical imbalance or a disease or a gypsy curse the kid needs serious help. Smack Tripper calling this 10 YEAR OLD KID "garbage" and "a zero" (along with advocating physical violence against him) makes me sick.

What does it say about our society if this is how we react to a 10 year old kid who needs obvious help? Sure write off his Mom and the other adults in his life but to advocate throwing away a child's life because it's going to take hard work to help is pathetic.

Truly I say unto you, bring me your tired, sick, and straw men arguments. For this is the "free for all".

 

[Pick]

That's good the kid is out of the school. I'm not a fan of the game of musical schools that parents play but sometimes when a situation isn't workable anymore than it's a good thing. And given today's climate it's better safe than sorry. You get a kid that doesn't feel safe at school and you've got a bad formula for bad things.

As for those blaming the teacher it may be the teacher's fault in some mannner but it's always good to get the whole story. Some bullies are pretty obvious and some are pretty sly about it. Just generally speaking there not that it applies to the OP. And there are many teachers that get intimidated by those situations.

 

[The Goat]

Send your son to mma training and have him dislocate Greg's elbow.I'm not even joking. Fuming mad for you big bottom.

Maybe you should go over there and sweep the leg, red dragon

Greg is a garbage human being, and likely unredeemable. Perhaps, just perhaps, he have a chance a redemption and humility with a 9 month rehab.The older I get, the less interest I have in attempting to reach a zero like this kid.

Do you feel the same way about people with physical disabilities?

Are you suggesting that Greg just needs the psychological version of artificial limbs or lifts?

No. I'm suggesting that HE IS A 10 ####ING YEAR OLD KID with serious problems. Whether they're caused by his environment or a chemical imbalance or a disease or a gypsy curse the kid needs serious help.

Smack Tripper calling this 10 YEAR OLD KID "garbage" and "a zero" (along with advocating physical violence against him) makes me sick.

What does it say about our society if this is how we react to a 10 year old kid who needs obvious help? Sure write off his Mom and the other adults in his life but to advocate throwing away a child's life because it's going to take hard work to help is pathetic.

I think it says "First and foremost, I am going to protect MY 10 year-old child if I feel he or she is in danger."

 

[The_Burning_Bush]

It seems like a handful of established parents could get him kicked out. I would work on getting a group together. That's one of the benefits of a private school. You might as well use it.

Get all the parents who have children who have class with "Greg" to sign a petition saying that unless Greg is booted out as soon as possible, they will all be withdrawing their child, and their tuition, and taking them elsewhere.

 

[General Malaise]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev?

The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev?

Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'.

I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

You mad, bro?

Not mad enough to call your school principal and tell them how much I dislike you or anything.

 

[nightmare]

Surprised no one has started a "my son got kicked out of school" thread yet. This place is slipping. Greg isn't

getting any sympathy because we have no idea what his situation is. My guess is he's abused and picked bigbottom's

son to take it out on.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Send your son to mma training and have him dislocate Greg's elbow.I'm not even joking. Fuming mad for you big bottom.

Maybe you should go over there and sweep the leg, red dragon

Greg is a garbage human being, and likely unredeemable. Perhaps, just perhaps, he have a chance a redemption and humility with a 9 month rehab.The older I get, the less interest I have in attempting to reach a zero like this kid.

Do you feel the same way about people with physical disabilities?

Are you suggesting that Greg just needs the psychological version of artificial limbs or lifts?

No. I'm suggesting that HE IS A 10 ####ING YEAR OLD KID with serious problems. Whether they're caused by his environment or a chemical imbalance or a disease or a gypsy curse the kid needs serious help. Smack Tripper calling this 10 YEAR OLD KID "garbage" and "a zero" (along with advocating physical violence against him) makes me sick.

What does it say about our society if this is how we react to a 10 year old kid who needs obvious help? Sure write off his Mom and the other adults in his life but to advocate throwing away a child's life because it's going to take hard work to help is pathetic.

This kid is a grease spot zilch until proven otherwise. Based on my very limited annecdotal experience, an a hole stays and a hole. But now we live in a world with the raised stakes of spree killing modeling for these little burdens to emulate. Not on my clock, not on my dime. Serious question, where does the hard work even begin with Greg? Since it will probably only further hasten his descent to discipline him, would you leave him in this school to see if he turns it around? Would you do this if it were your kid?The only pathetic thing here is to put the interests of one piece of garbage in front of 24 kids who seemingly have some preternatural instinct of how to function. The only redemption stories for clowns like this are in some life changing ce to Jesus moment. I'm hoping baby big bottom forcing Greg's elbow to bend 90 degrees The OTHER way might offer him deliverance and a moment to contemplate his conduct. I may be off base I admit but I seethed for big bottoms kid. I agree about the you have to learn to navigate bullying, and I'm far from a zero tolerance guy, but Christ this ir already punched him, has a gun predilection at 10 and threatened his life. Strike one strike two and strike three.

 

[Fennis]

Not on my clock, not on my dime.

Way to go Rambo.

 

[cstu]

It's a private school right? Which means you are paying for it? Tell them to expel him or you pack your bags and go to another school and convince many other parents to do the same.

This.

I'm not keeping my child around a kid with anger issues and access to guns. It sounds like a school shooting ready to happen.

 

[Fennis]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

 

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This is like saying "My kid stutters. So every time he starts to stutter I'm going to slap him until he gets it right."

This is like saying "My kid stutters. So every time he starts to stutter I'm going to slap him until he gets it right."

:slap:

POTD

 

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It's gonna be awesome when we go back to 3-4 nested quote limit to make this board readable again on a mobile browser.

 

[Daywalker]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

It's gonna be awesome when we go back to 3-4 nested quote limit to make this board readable again on a mobile browser.

No kidding. Unreadable on mobile.

Of course we can't expect that people will trim up quotes. There's no need to have chains going back 8 posts.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

All the kids know that if they rat out another kid he will get asked to leave the school; this sword cuts both ways.

 

[pittstownkiller]

It's gonna be awesome when we go back to 3-4 nested quote limit to make this board readable again on a mobile browser.

No kidding. Unreadable on mobile. Of course we can't expect that people will trim up quotes. There's no need to have chains going back 8 posts.

Of course not the easiest thing to do is trim by mobile.

 

[pittstownkiller]

It's a private school right? Which means you are paying for it? Tell them to expel him or you pack your bags and go to another school and convince many other parents to do the same.

This. I'm not keeping my child around a kid with anger issues and access to guns. It sounds like a school shooting ready to happen.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

Typical for a private school; you are required to sign a code of conduct pledge, which I am sure he was in violation of. The need to right the wrong is not what these schools are about; access to the resources of advanced learning, in a safe environment, is paramount. Students are regularly asked to leave if their grades are not up to snuff or, at least, moved down during the year. Disorders, or troubling behaviors, are not what these school are designed for nor are equipped to handle.

 

[pittstownkiller]

It seems like a handful of established parents could get him kicked out. I would work on getting a group together. That's one of the benefits of a private school. You might as well use it.

Get all the parents who have children who have class with "Greg" to sign a petition saying that unless Greg is booted out as soon as possible, they will all be withdrawing their child, and their tuition, and taking them elsewhere.

Good luck with that.

 

[pittstownkiller]

You are not freaking out enough. I would get with other parents to demand that Greg be immediately expelled and the teacher who kept a lid on this be fired immediately. If they say no lawyer up and sue the #### out of the school. This is complete and total negligence on part of the school and teacher. I would also call police immediately and tell them nothing is being done and your son has been physically assaulted. Get on this NOW.

You do realize that this is a private school that BB chooses to have his son attend.

 

[DocHolliday]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

The quick action may have also been the result of the teacher spilling her beans as well. I believe the teacher told the princiapal that she contacted Greg's mom over some issues. Those probably included Greg issues that BB does not know about.

Another possibility is that the principal knew of some of these Greg issues and this was the final straw.

The role of Greg's mom in this story is probably a mess. She probably lets her son do whatever he wants out of fear or pity if she knows he is being abused. I doubt it was her idea to have a gun range party. Greg likely demanded it and she gave in like she always does. When the teacher called to complain about her sons's fighting and outbursts, she probably did nothing. This is likely a case of the kid running the show at mom's house.

 

[Pick]

Without knowing all the details I would guess most of the fault lies on the homefront. There may be some blame to pass around elsewhere but this has single-mom-wussy written all over it.

And ultimately there could've been steps taken to salvage this thing but it has clearly moved beyond repair (again without know the full story). And if that's the case than props to BB getting his kid out of an unhealthy situation.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

The quick action may have also been the result of the teacher spilling her beans as well. I believe the teacher told the princiapal that she contacted Greg's mom over some issues. Those probably included Greg issues that BB does not know about. Another possibility is that the principal knew of some of these Greg issues and this was the final straw. The role of Greg's mom in this story is probably a mess. She probably lets her son do whatever he wants out of fear or pity if she knows he is being abused. I doubt it was her idea to have a gun range party. Greg likely demanded it and she gave in like she always does. When the teacher called to complain about her sons's fighting and outbursts, she probably did nothing. This is likely a case of the kid running the show at mom's house.

With insight like this you should pick winning lottery numbers. @ the concept that a 10 year old knows what a gun range is; who is he "Baby Face Finster"?

 

[NCCommish]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

The quick action may have also been the result of the teacher spilling her beans as well. I believe the teacher told the princiapal that she contacted Greg's mom over some issues. Those probably included Greg issues that BB does not know about. Another possibility is that the principal knew of some of these Greg issues and this was the final straw. The role of Greg's mom in this story is probably a mess. She probably lets her son do whatever he wants out of fear or pity if she knows he is being abused. I doubt it was her idea to have a gun range party. Greg likely demanded it and she gave in like she always does. When the teacher called to complain about her sons's fighting and outbursts, she probably did nothing. This is likely a case of the kid running the show at mom's house.

With insight like this you should pick winning lottery numbers. @ the concept that a 10 year old knows what a gun range is; who is he "Baby Face Finster"?

Children's parties at gun ranges seem to be something they are doing in Texas these days:

Texas Gun Range to Host Birthday Parties for ChildrenInstead of bowling alley or laser tag birthdays, Texas parents will soon be able to host parties at a less traditional venue, a family-friendly gun range set to open this summer.

The range will have two rooms for children's birthday parties so the young partygoers can attend a class and then fire a few rounds before cake and presents.

"A lot of people don't know how to shoot a gun so we're providing education and training for shooters of all ages," range owner David Prince told ABCNews.com. "They have birthday parties with go-karts and trampolines -- with proper education before going into a gun range, why not a birthday party?"

The Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville will be a 24-lane facility targeted toward both avid and novice shooters. Children eight years and older, who are tall enough to shoot over the shooting table, will be able to fire at the range. According to Texas guns laws, parents or guardians must give written permission for children under 18 to possess or fire a weapon.

"They'll be in the classroom, walk into the range, shoot, go back to the classroom, and have cake and ice cream," Prince said. "There's no pinata. It's not festive like that. There are safety glasses, ear protection, and that's the only time they test the gun."

Prince said that both parents and children will attend a safety class taught by a National Rifle Association (NRA) certified instructor before going anywhere near a gun.

"A parent or guardian or NRA instructor will all be in arm's range," he said. "There's no child that will be walking around with a gun at a birthday party."

The young children will be shooting BB guns and .22 pistols and can move up from there as they get older.

So that is from last year and it's for kids as young as 8. Not sure it's so weird to think a kid might hear an ad for something like that and want to go shoot guns "for real".

 

[Black Box]

Yeah, I don't think it is totally outrageous to think a 10 year old has heard of a gun range.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Yeah, I don't think it is totally outrageous to think a 10 year old has heard of a gun range.

Hearing of a place and having a birthday party there is a bit of a stretch.

 

[NCCommish]

Yeah, I don't think it is totally outrageous to think a 10 year old has heard of a gun range.

Hearing of a place and having a birthday party there is a bit of a stretch.

Well as I posted there is at least one gun range in Texas actively pushing to host kids birthday parties. If they are having any success I would assume others are doing the same. As a young boy I enjoyed shooting and I didn't have video games to practice with first. My guess is it could be a good business.