Threat against my son - am I wrong to be freaking out? (1 Viewer)

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Texas is weird, right? Or would "birthday party at a gun range" actually be considered somewhat normal other places? I can't fathom anything like this. So foreign to me.

 

[Black Box]

Yeah, I don't think it is totally outrageous to think a 10 year old has heard of a gun range.

Hearing of a place and having a birthday party there is a bit of a stretch.

Well as I posted there is at least one gun range in Texas actively pushing to host kids birthday parties. If they are having any success I would assume others are doing the same. As a young boy I enjoyed shooting and I didn't have video games to practice with first. My guess is it could be a good business.

This, plus pittstown was laughing at the notion that a ten year old even knows what a gun range is.

With insight like this you should pick winning lottery numbers. @ the concept that a 10 year old knows what a gun range is; who is he "Baby Face Finster"?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Texas is weird, right?

That's my understanding.

 

[NCCommish]

Texas is weird, right? Or would "birthday party at a gun range" actually be considered somewhat normal other places? I can't fathom anything like this. So foreign to me.

I checked and can't find any gun ranges in NC advertising children's birthday parties but I know some guys who live in our mountain communities that would totally be into taking their kid to one for his/her birthday.

 

[bigbottom]

The idea of a kid going to a shooting range isn't so odd, particularly here in Texas. He'll, I don't own a gun, but my 10 year old does. It's a children-sized .22 that was a gift from his grandfather. It stays disassembled and there is no ammo in our house. He shoots it when we go to his grandpa's ranch. And only when both his grandfather and I are there to supervise.

What makes the idea of a shooting range birthday party for 10-year-olds crazy to me is that you have no idea what spazzes will be attending. And you also need to have a pretty strong affinity for guns if that's what you want to do for your party as a 10-year-old. Combining guns and parties sends the wrong message in my opinion.

But this is Texas. People like shooting and blowing up things. But when it involves a kid with violent tendencies and anger control issues, I'll pass every time.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Texas is weird, right? Or would "birthday party at a gun range" actually be considered somewhat normal other places? I can't fathom anything like this. So foreign to me.

I checked and can't find any gun ranges in NC advertising children's birthday parties but I know some guys who live in our mountain communities that would totally be into taking their kid to one for his/her birthday.

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

"You promised Cookie####! This is Fudgie the Whale!"

*bang*

 

[Black Box]

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

But seriously, it has to be better than 80% of the typical 10 year old birthday party destinations. There's only so much cosmic bowling a grown man can take.

 

[TobiasFunke]

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

"You promised Cookie####! This is Fudgie the Whale!"

*bang*

That's a completely justified response to anyone who prefers this frightening monstrosity to Fudgie the Whale.

 

[Keerock]

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

"You promised Cookie####! This is Fudgie the Whale!"

*bang*

That's a completely justified response to anyone who prefers this frightening monstrosity to Fudgie the Whale.

:X

 

[doowain]

I can imagine something like a father-son trip to the gun range, just not a whole birthday party where you invite a bunch of kids and eat cake.

"You promised Cookie####! This is Fudgie the Whale!"

*bang*

That's a completely justified response to anyone who prefers this frightening monstrosity to Fudgie the Whale.

:X

Anyone that knows anything knows that Cookie #### is for Mother's Day....not birthdays.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I prefer Cookie O'####.

 

[Fennis]

Theres a reason they don't have surprise parties in Texas.

 

[Dragons]

Keep us updated on whether the teacher lasts.

While I agree that the trouble with the kid obviously originates from home and would also suspect abuse from his father or mom's boyfriend, those trying to give the teacher a pass are obviously biased teachers. Where the teacher failed is not in that he/she couldn't control this kid, but in not reporting what was going on to the parents of the kids involved. She apparently was able to make calls to Gregs mom. At the same time, she should have made calls to BB and any other kid involved.

There's the off chance that she actually reported it to the principal and he directed her to keep quiet. The swiftness in booting the kid could even indicate this is what happened, he's covering his ###. But, I have a hard time believe this and if BB can report whether his kid was actually interviewed yesterday. Why bother going through this step if the principal already knew everything about what had been happening?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

You are not freaking out enough. I would get with other parents to demand that Greg be immediately expelled and the teacher who kept a lid on this be fired immediately. If they say no lawyer up and sue the #### out of the school. This is complete and total negligence on part of the school and teacher. I would also call police immediately and tell them nothing is being done and your son has been physically assaulted. Get on this NOW.

What is your secret to staying so calm and level headed?

 

[bigbottom]

This is the place where the birthday party was held. They don't appear to market themselves as a birthday party destination.

Top Gun

 

[glumpy]

This is the place where the birthday party was held. They don't appear to market themselves as a birthday party destination.

Top Gun

That looks like serious business. I could see a party at one of the local turkey shoots we have around here but they're not so formal.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

This is the place where the birthday party was held. They don't appear to market themselves as a birthday party destination.

Top Gun

The difference between Texas and California:

In Texas you can hold your kid's birthday party at a gun range.

In California the website for the gun range is blocked by the school's network.

 

[T Bell]

Theres a reason they don't have surprise parties in Texas.

 

[T Bell]

This is the place where the birthday party was held. They don't appear to market themselves as a birthday party destination.

Top Gun

Do they give the kids booster seats?

 

[jamny]

update?

 

[Pick]

those trying to give the teacher a pass are obviously biased teachers

That's not a bad thing. Not saying this teacher is good or bad. Just saying I'd like all the facts, which we'll likely never get. Nothing wrong with due process ya know.

 

[DocHolliday]

I am glad that BB kid is OK, but the speed at which the principal acted seems problematic to me. It makes sense to suspend the kid immediately and remove him from the situation. You can then investigate and take the proper action. But to talk to a handful of kids over and a teacher over a couple of hours and take that action over threats seems pretty quick to me. I guess we are living in a hyper sensitive world. Maybe rightfully.

I'm guessing the interviews with the the students revealed probably a lot more then even bb knows.

The quick action may have also been the result of the teacher spilling her beans as well. I believe the teacher told the princiapal that she contacted Greg's mom over some issues. Those probably included Greg issues that BB does not know about. Another possibility is that the principal knew of some of these Greg issues and this was the final straw. The role of Greg's mom in this story is probably a mess. She probably lets her son do whatever he wants out of fear or pity if she knows he is being abused. I doubt it was her idea to have a gun range party. Greg likely demanded it and she gave in like she always does. When the teacher called to complain about her sons's fighting and outbursts, she probably did nothing. This is likely a case of the kid running the show at mom's house.

With insight like this you should pick winning lottery numbers. @ the concept that a 10 year old knows what a gun range is; who is he "Baby Face Finster"?

And I laugh at you and your stupidity. That is hysterical that you think that 10-year kids do not know what a gun range is. I have nephews that have been going to gun ranges almost weekly since they were 8 years old. They ask to go to THE GUN RANGE. These kids are 10 not 4. Wise up.

 

[bigbottom]

Not much of an update yet. The expulsion happened at the end of the school day yesterday, so, for the most part, neither the boys nor their parents know what happened yet. They will after today, so I imagine there will be some level of hubub. Talking to at least a few of the parents, however, I know that for them the news will be a relief, as their kids were having issues with him as well. That sentiment may end up being unanimous, but I don't know.

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux. Right now I'm leaning towards not making any further issue out of this. The immediate situation has been addressed. I'm confident that the communication issue is being addressed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. She's otherwise a very good teacher and we like her. This is only her second year in teaching, so this could simply have been an issue of inexperience and poor judgment. I won't be calling for her head. I would like to know what her response was as to why she didn't run this up the administrative chain, but I'm not sure whether I'll be asking for that information.

 

[5Rings]

Good job GB BB.

If I ever have this issue come up, I sure hope I handle it as well as you. My inner meathead would probably want to kick the crap out of the other Dad, which would make everything worse.

Dad of the Year Material

 

[bigbottom]

Good job GB BB.

If I ever have this issue come up, I sure hope I handle it as well as you. My inner meathead would probably want to kick the crap out of the other Dad, which would make everything worse.

Dad of the Year Material

Thanks. I think the key was bringing the issue to the attention of school administration and giving them an opportunity to do the right thing without issuing any demands. If things had not gone the way they had, I imagine I would have had to turn up the heat. If I had gone in to that meeting with the administration completely hyper-aggressive and pissed off, I imagine the resulting action would have been the same, but I would have injured my family's ongoing relationship with the school.

I also think that the way I approached this issue was influenced somewhat by my wife who was flipping out and all about ripping people's heads off. I was acting as a counterbalance to that and, thankfully, she followed my lead.

 

[TxBuckeye]

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux.

Perhaps the principal has asked her not to speak to anyone until he is done investigating the issue on behalf of the school. So she may be on a "gag order" for now, or something along those lines.

 

[Keerock]

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux.

Perhaps the principal has asked her not to speak to anyone until he is done investigating the issue on behalf of the school. So she may be on a "gag order" for now, or something along those lines.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Not much of an update yet. The expulsion happened at the end of the school day yesterday, so, for the most part, neither the boys nor their parents know what happened yet. They will after today, so I imagine there will be some level of hubub. Talking to at least a few of the parents, however, I know that for them the news will be a relief, as their kids were having issues with him as well. That sentiment may end up being unanimous, but I don't know.

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux. Right now I'm leaning towards not making any further issue out of this. The immediate situation has been addressed. I'm confident that the communication issue is being addressed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. She's otherwise a very good teacher and we like her. This is only her second year in teaching, so this could simply have been an issue of inexperience and poor judgment. I won't be calling for her head. I would like to know what her response was as to why she didn't run this up the administrative chain, but I'm not sure whether I'll be asking for that information.

wut

 

[Fennis]

This is the place where the birthday party was held. They don't appear to market themselves as a birthday party destination.

Top Gun

The difference between Texas and California:

In Texas you can hold your kid's birthday party at a gun range.

In California the website for the gun range is blocked by the school's network.

In Russia, Party have YOU!

 

[bigbottom]

Not much of an update yet. The expulsion happened at the end of the school day yesterday, so, for the most part, neither the boys nor their parents know what happened yet. They will after today, so I imagine there will be some level of hubub. Talking to at least a few of the parents, however, I know that for them the news will be a relief, as their kids were having issues with him as well. That sentiment may end up being unanimous, but I don't know.

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux. Right now I'm leaning towards not making any further issue out of this. The immediate situation has been addressed. I'm confident that the communication issue is being addressed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. She's otherwise a very good teacher and we like her. This is only her second year in teaching, so this could simply have been an issue of inexperience and poor judgment. I won't be calling for her head. I would like to know what her response was as to why she didn't run this up the administrative chain, but I'm not sure whether I'll be asking for that information.

wut

We haven't heard from her.

 

[cstu]

It's a private school right? Which means you are paying for it? Tell them to expel him or you pack your bags and go to another school and convince many other parents to do the same.

This. I'm not keeping my child around a kid with anger issues and access to guns. It sounds like a school shooting ready to happen.

I'm sure all the parents at Sandy Hook are laughing too.

 

[Fennis]

It's a private school right? Which means you are paying for it? Tell them to expel him or you pack your bags and go to another school and convince many other parents to do the same.

This. I'm not keeping my child around a kid with anger issues and access to guns. It sounds like a school shooting ready to happen.

I'm sure all the parents at Sandy Hook are laughing too.

Let's not get carried away.

 

[cstu]

It's a private school right? Which means you are paying for it? Tell them to expel him or you pack your bags and go to another school and convince many other parents to do the same.

This. I'm not keeping my child around a kid with anger issues and access to guns. It sounds like a school shooting ready to happen.

I'm sure all the parents at Sandy Hook are laughing too.

Let's not get carried away.

Even if there's a 1% chance it's not something to take lightly.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Not much of an update yet. The expulsion happened at the end of the school day yesterday, so, for the most part, neither the boys nor their parents know what happened yet. They will after today, so I imagine there will be some level of hubub. Talking to at least a few of the parents, however, I know that for them the news will be a relief, as their kids were having issues with him as well. That sentiment may end up being unanimous, but I don't know.

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux. Right now I'm leaning towards not making any further issue out of this. The immediate situation has been addressed. I'm confident that the communication issue is being addressed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. She's otherwise a very good teacher and we like her. This is only her second year in teaching, so this could simply have been an issue of inexperience and poor judgment. I won't be calling for her head. I would like to know what her response was as to why she didn't run this up the administrative chain, but I'm not sure whether I'll be asking for that information.

wut

We haven't heard from her.

thank you

 

[stbugs]

Keep us updated on whether the teacher lasts.

While I agree that the trouble with the kid obviously originates from home and would also suspect abuse from his father or mom's boyfriend, those trying to give the teacher a pass are obviously biased teachers. Where the teacher failed is not in that he/she couldn't control this kid, but in not reporting what was going on to the parents of the kids involved. She apparently was able to make calls to Gregs mom. At the same time, she should have made calls to BB and any other kid involved.

There's the off chance that she actually reported it to the principal and he directed her to keep quiet. The swiftness in booting the kid could even indicate this is what happened, he's covering his ###. But, I have a hard time believe this and if BB can report whether his kid was actually interviewed yesterday. Why bother going through this step if the principal already knew everything about what had been happening?

Why do so many people suspect abuse? I know kids who are "off" that have real bad tantrums and they are not getting abused in any way. In fact, it is often the opposite, the parents have little control and tend to coddle the kids so much that they feed into the lack of responsibility/social ability the kid's have. Some of these kids get better with age when they realize they can't act that way and have friends, i.e. other people don't coddle them and they mature and grow up, but some are real sociopaths and turn into people that shoot up schools. (Note: none of the kids I have met seem to come close to this kid where I would be legitimately afraid of what they would do).

I am not in the psych profession, so this is just my opinion. I tend to think of kids that are abused as kids that become depressed and withdrawn, completely opposite of this kid. This kid seems like a mental health issue and the dad could be gone (like the Sandy Hook killer) because he couldn't handle it. The mom in this case seems to have the same issues (the mom could have passed this trait) just like the Sandy Hook mom who even though her kid was violent kept guns around the house. This mom seems to know the issues with her kid, but also seems off enough to think going to a gun range for a birthday for her obviously violent kid is a good choice.

BB, I wish you all the best, but if you are giving us the 100% truth, this kid really sounds like he will at some point end up hurting someone really badly. To be honest, if the parents of the girl who likes your son aren't aware of anything then you may want to reach out to them. I would be worried if that kid had a crush on my daughter.

 

[bigbottom]

BB, I wish you all the best, but if you are giving us the 100% truth, this kid really sounds like he will at some point end up hurting someone really badly. To be honest, if the parents of the girl who likes your son aren't aware of anything then you may want to reach out to them. I would be worried if that kid had a crush on my daughter.

What I've stated here in this thread is 100% accurate in terms of what I've been told. Whether that is an accurate account of the full picture, I do not know. As for your suggestion, my wife and I were discussing this very topic last night. We know the girl's mom pretty well (her son is friends with our older son). We decided to let them know what is going on. My wife is calling the mom today.

 

[Pick]

Not much of an update yet. The expulsion happened at the end of the school day yesterday, so, for the most part, neither the boys nor their parents know what happened yet. They will after today, so I imagine there will be some level of hubub. Talking to at least a few of the parents, however, I know that for them the news will be a relief, as their kids were having issues with him as well. That sentiment may end up being unanimous, but I don't know.

As for the teacher, there is no update. I know the principal was unhappy that he was not made aware of the situation a long time ago. I don't know what happened in his discussions with her. I'm a bit surprised she hasn't reached out to us to apologize for not letting us know that our child had been threatened, but I'm thinking that situation may still be in flux. Right now I'm leaning towards not making any further issue out of this. The immediate situation has been addressed. I'm confident that the communication issue is being addressed, though I have no direct knowledge of that. She's otherwise a very good teacher and we like her. This is only her second year in teaching, so this could simply have been an issue of inexperience and poor judgment. I won't be calling for her head. I would like to know what her response was as to why she didn't run this up the administrative chain, but I'm not sure whether I'll be asking for that information.

I would definitely ask for that info. Everything could be legit here and the teacher could be fine and the timing of the bullying kept it from notice. Or you could be dealing with this same thing down the road.

The question I would ask is "Could this situation have been caught sooner?". Why or why not?

As for you kid, I'd kind of be on alert for maybe a week.

 

[stbugs]

BB, I wish you all the best, but if you are giving us the 100% truth, this kid really sounds like he will at some point end up hurting someone really badly. To be honest, if the parents of the girl who likes your son aren't aware of anything then you may want to reach out to them. I would be worried if that kid had a crush on my daughter.

What I've stated here in this thread is 100% accurate in terms of what I've been told. Whether that is an accurate account of the full picture, I do not know. As for your suggestion, my wife and I were discussing this very topic last night. We know the girl's mom pretty well (her son is friends with our older son). We decided to let them know what is going on. My wife is calling the mom today.

Good, you should let them know. This kid is real bad news (you have to have a real screw loose to say you would kill another classmate if it was legal) and I hope he grows up and controls his issues. He needs some serious help and it sure sounds like his mom is not even close to getting him some.

 

[Pick]

Even if the teacher is not at fault, they should still reach out here. I know I've been around bad situations that had nothing to do with me but I still felt bad that they happened. Parents appreciate the empathy.

 

[Zow]

I think you handled it perfectly. But that whole gun party thing scares the crap out of me. This kid obviously has some issues (you should get him a referral to a criminal atty buddy of yours now) and to me the scariest part of the story was him inviting kids to a gun range. I'm sure all of us either knew or experienced bully(ies) to the extent of this kid and experienced them do some pretty crazy stuff. But at a gun range? Yeesh.

 

[General Malaise]

Has anybody asked Steve what his side of the story is?

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I haven't been around much and just popped in to answer some PM's when this thread caught my eye.

First, it's weird because I was going to PM you BB to see how your son was doing. You have both been on my mind a lot lately. Second, it looks like the situation is resolved and that's good. However, and I know I'm in the minority here, I feel terrible for Greg. The kid obviously has issues and needs help. It probably just hits too close to home on several levels. I hope you know I have the utmost respect for you BB. For extra credit, maybe there is something you can do to help Greg with his issues?

 

[bigbottom]

I haven't been around much and just popped in to answer some PM's when this thread caught my eye.

First, it's weird because I was going to PM you BB to see how your son was doing. You have both been on my mind a lot lately. Second, it looks like the situation is resolved and that's good. However, and I know I'm in the minority here, I feel terrible for Greg. The kid obviously has issues and needs help. It probably just hits too close to home on several levels. I hope you know I have the utmost respect for you BB. For extra credit, maybe there is something you can do to help Greg with his issues?

Thanks for the thoughts, SLB. For what it's worth, it's my older son who is sick. My younger boy is the one involved here, and to be honest, while he was certainly scared of Greg and did his best to avoid him, it wasn't like the situation was paralyzing him or anything.

And I too feel bad for Greg, and his mom. I really do hope he gets the help he needs. Unfortunately, I haven't the foggiest idea how I could help along those lines, nor would my help be welcome or appreciated most likely. I could tell from speaking with the principal that he was really scared about what he learned. Maybe this event will be the catalyst for doing more to help Greg deal with these issues.

 

[NCCommish]

I haven't been around much and just popped in to answer some PM's when this thread caught my eye.

First, it's weird because I was going to PM you BB to see how your son was doing. You have both been on my mind a lot lately. Second, it looks like the situation is resolved and that's good. However, and I know I'm in the minority here, I feel terrible for Greg. The kid obviously has issues and needs help. It probably just hits too close to home on several levels. I hope you know I have the utmost respect for you BB. For extra credit, maybe there is something you can do to help Greg with his issues?

Actually I think pretty much everyone, with an obvious exception, hopes Greg gets whatever help he needs. I know I do. It just doesn't appear likely.

 

[Pick]

I haven't been around much and just popped in to answer some PM's when this thread caught my eye.

First, it's weird because I was going to PM you BB to see how your son was doing. You have both been on my mind a lot lately. Second, it looks like the situation is resolved and that's good. However, and I know I'm in the minority here, I feel terrible for Greg. The kid obviously has issues and needs help. It probably just hits too close to home on several levels. I hope you know I have the utmost respect for you BB. For extra credit, maybe there is something you can do to help Greg with his issues?

Thanks for the thoughts, SLB. For what it's worth, it's my older son who is sick. My younger boy is the one involved here, and to be honest, while he was certainly scared of Greg and did his best to avoid him, it wasn't like the situation was paralyzing him or anything.

And I too feel bad for Greg, and his mom. I really do hope he gets the help he needs. Unfortunately, I haven't the foggiest idea how I could help along those lines, nor would my help be welcome or appreciated most likely. I could tell from speaking with the principal that he was really scared about what he learned. Maybe this event will be the catalyst for doing more to help Greg deal with these issues.

I think any attempt at reconciliation would end badly at this point. It's too far gone.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

watch your back

 

[The_Man]

Biggie is a good guy, but there's really nothing he can do for Greg and no reason to be involved.

I'd also let it slide with the teacher, especially if she's done a good job in the classroom this year. You said she's only in year 2, so this situation might have been too big for her to handle and she screwed up. Or maybe she's in over her head and won't be back next year -- but that's for her boss to decide. It sounds like he handled the situation very effectively as soon as he was made aware of it, and will probably be equally effective in determining what to do about the teacher. If you have confidence in him to do his job, then let him do his job and handle his employee.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Send your son to mma training and have him dislocate Greg's elbow.I'm not even joking. Fuming mad for you big bottom.

Maybe you should go over there and sweep the leg, red dragon

Greg is a garbage human being, and likely unredeemable. Perhaps, just perhaps, he have a chance a redemption and humility with a 9 month rehab.The older I get, the less interest I have in attempting to reach a zero like this kid.

Do you feel the same way about people with physical disabilities?

Are you suggesting that Greg just needs the psychological version of artificial limbs or lifts?

No. I'm suggesting that HE IS A 10 ####ING YEAR OLD KID with serious problems. Whether they're caused by his environment or a chemical imbalance or a disease or a gypsy curse the kid needs serious help. Smack Tripper calling this 10 YEAR OLD KID "garbage" and "a zero" (along with advocating physical violence against him) makes me sick.

A child with a physical disability is not a physical threat to the rest of us. Not every child with a mental disability is. Greg has already proven himself to be. Greg seems to be a child that has learned wielding force will get him some measure of results. The only thing child will respect is force In return to fall into line. It's inappropriate for an adult to mete this out but of a member of his peer group did so, it would be just desserts.I'm sure there are people who have changed, but every ten year old zero I knew grew up to be an adult zero, as far as their conduct and behavior to their immediate and slightly extended social circle, to the point where you look at any day these maniacs don't snap as a victory.I'm sure some sort exhaustive rehab might rewire this little idiot, and if his family wants to put the time and effort into that, Godspeed and good luck. But it takes a village and sometimes a village has to say goodbye.Greg's rights ends where these other kids rights begin.Exile and isolate. Some times you have to pluck the misfit toy off the assembly line.

 

[Mr.Pack]

1st, I can tell this is a "white person's problem".2nd, those that have made comments referencing "the teacher is to blame" or "it's the teachers fault for letting it get this far" or "the teacher should be fired" are laughable.3rd, the one comment I read about "red tape" is exactly that. I hear threats of all kinds at school every day, see fights every day without suspensions, hear and get sworn at every day with no recourse. Red tape it is and in the long run, tha kid, Greg, will be behind bars or begging for money.4th, this is private school so things should be different... but I doubt they are much different.

This is Psycho Kev, right? Is my alias notebook correct? Yes? You are still perhaps the biggest idiot I have ever encountered in well over 10 years of FBG interaction. Congrats are in order. You are dumb beyond verbal description. The fact that you are even in the proximity of the field of teaching frightens me.

Meh, you're an idiot of the highest order that has to make himself feel better on the Internet. Congrats on that, I guess.Those who are faulting the teacher need to teach yourselves. Public vs. private is a different ball game but not much.As was stated there are deeper issues involved here. Anyone taking the principals word here is naive. You don't think the principal knew about prior behavior issues with this child? You think the principal knew everything was hunky dory with Greg? C'mon. But, the red tape involved is ludicrous.

Tell me, dear boy, why is it that you no longer go by Psycho Kev?

The magnitude of your inappropriateness with your reply is really impossible to articulate, but let's just start with the fact that you attempted to pigeonhole the matter as a "White Person's Problem". That sort of idiocy must come from years of osmosis as a Green Bay Packers fan because until today, the only person I've seen spew ignorance like that out loud was Reggie White. But let's not stop there, Kev - Big Bottom is half Asian, so technically speaking, you whiffed completely on your stereotype. Now maybe you can go back and edit bullet point number 1 to read "white AND asian person's problem" but really, what you meant to say was "Rich person's problem", am I right? Little chip on your shoulder teaching at a public school there, Kev?

Now the pure beauty of your post is that you didn't just stop your absurdity with bullet point 1, no sir....you stood up and delivered a second shot with battiness on par with the first. Don't blame the teacher? Oh man...really? There is NO BLAME to be given to the leader of these students who was present to witness and observe this behavior every day without ONCE reporting it to parent's or administration? And for those of us who DO find some fault in the teacher's inaction to take action, our instinct is LAUGHABLE? Are you for real? A teacher has an obligation to provide a safe classroom for his/her students and if there is an indication of bullying or hitting going on, that teacher needs to take action. I admire BB for having the restraint to not be more frustrated and angry and his son's teacher than he has demonstrated here today. I would be red-eye pissed and looking for answers. If a teacher suspects abuse of a child at home, that teacher has a moral obligation to report that suspicion to administration, right? Why wouldn't that teacher have the same obligation to report signs of abuse or bullying? Hitting in the face is not okay. But maybe that's just a 'white person's problem'.

I don't feel better for calling you an idiot. I have a moral obligation to do so.

Watch it homeboy