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So at what point do we let the Rat sucker us in again? I mean now Tim has had nice games against both the Steelers AND the Ravens, and he seems to be getting the vast majority of the snaps when the starters are in.

Going by ADP, there is a pretty tight grouping of what I call "boring starter" RBs in the 6th and early 7th. Benson, Wells, Daniel Thomas, Lynch, Addai, Fred Jackson. I was getting all spun up last night, but now I can't really convince myself that Hightower should unquestionably be ahead of those guys.

 
SOMEONE in just about every league will take him way too high. I think he has a great chance to produce some really solid numbers, but I think you'd have to reach if you really want him.

 
...and another big preseason game for Hightower. Helu didnt play at all in the 1st half.

Last week on his 58 yard run he said "I've got to score on that run". This week he finishes the run with the TD.

 
This year my gut is on Tim Hightower.

Sometimes the storyline just works out nicely in the NFL. Grew up in in Virginia rooting for the Redskins...Skins play Cardinals in Week 2 before a Monday Night game against the Cowboys.

Sure this isn't professional wrestling???

 
Being a Skins fan, and having had Portis (and later Torain) last year, I said "No Skins RB's," going into my draft last night...then, I watched the 1st half of the Was/Bal game, and when Hightower was there in the 8th round, I took him...We'll see I guess...

 
'Fat Nick said:
Being a Skins fan, and having had Portis (and later Torain) last year, I said "No Skins RB's," going into my draft last night...then, I watched the 1st half of the Was/Bal game, and when Hightower was there in the 8th round, I took him...We'll see I guess...
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He's definitely worth an 8th round pick.
 
I wouldnt trust him as my RB2, but if you can get him as a RB3 you could do worse. His knocks would be he has the rat as a coach and he has never been the starter the whole season. Someone will draft him too early....

 
'buck naked said:
'Fat Nick said:
Being a Skins fan, and having had Portis (and later Torain) last year, I said "No Skins RB's," going into my draft last night...then, I watched the 1st half of the Was/Bal game, and when Hightower was there in the 8th round, I took him...We'll see I guess...
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He's definitely worth an 8th round pick.
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Yeah 8th round makes him an easy pick. Question is should he go ahead of the guys going in the 6th/7th. dgreen makes a good point though. There's a couple Skins fans in our league, someone will probably grab him in the 5th and render the discussion moot anyways.
 
'Ghost Rider said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
Its the preseason, just reminding you, lol.
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Very, very true. But.......if you are gonna pay attention to anything in the preseason, it is how well players and units do in the first half of the third preseason game.
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And the guy does not look to be running like he did in Arizona...he looks to be a pretty good fit for their zone blocking scheme...I don't have him on any teams but I would not be shocked if he's one of the ones that jumps to the top 10 with the way he looks...not stats...just the way he looks running the ball.
 
'Ghost Rider said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
Its the preseason, just reminding you, lol.
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Very, very true. But.......if you are gonna pay attention to anything in the preseason, it is how well players and units do in the first half of the third preseason game.
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:goodposting: This. It's Hightower's job to lose - the one worry I have (I own him in a dynasty league and in a couple of my redrafts this year) is that Skeletor HATES fumbles and Hightower has had some issues there in the past. That said, I think that he'll be the lead back in Washington this year by a sizable margin (maybe 60% of carries and a nice 30-40 receptions) - he's moving up my PPR RB board significantly in my next iteration next Monday and also jumps up my redraft board by a good bit, I expect. Have to wait and see how more of the week 3 scenarios play out but I'm buying Hightower as a low-end fantasy RB2 and love him as a RB-3 (especially in flex leagues).
 
'Reepicheep said:
'buck naked said:
'Fat Nick said:
Being a Skins fan, and having had Portis (and later Torain) last year, I said "No Skins RB's," going into my draft last night...then, I watched the 1st half of the Was/Bal game, and when Hightower was there in the 8th round, I took him...We'll see I guess...
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He's definitely worth an 8th round pick.
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Yeah 8th round makes him an easy pick. Question is should he go ahead of the guys going in the 6th/7th. dgreen makes a good point though. There's a couple Skins fans in our league, someone will probably grab him in the 5th and render the discussion moot anyways.
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He fell to the 14th round before I grabbed him in my live draft last Sunday. This guy could be a huge sleeper in a lot of leagues, especially if you're playing with owners that either don't follow the pre-season or don't buy into pre-season hype.
 
'dgreen said:
SOMEONE in just about every league will take him way too high. I think he has a great chance to produce some really solid numbers, but I think you'd have to reach if you really want him.
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I've had two drafts in the last week, one was last night. In both, he's gone around mid-90 overall ...to me
 
'One said:
'dgreen said:
SOMEONE in just about every league will take him way too high. I think he has a great chance to produce some really solid numbers, but I think you'd have to reach if you really want him.
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I've had two drafts in the last week, one was last night. In both, he's gone around mid-90 overall ...to me
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I think he should be going top 84, if you get him after that you've done well.
 
'two_dollars said:
grabbed him end of the 7th, over a week ago. Some things, the smart people see coming.
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Snagged him at 120th overall as my RB4 two weeks ago. He's now giving me the same feeling Foster did when I grabbed him off waivers this time last year. Not saying he'll have the type of year Foster did, but I think he'll vastly outperform his draft spot.
 
'Bigboy10182000 said:
'Ghost Rider said:
'JuSt CuZ said:
Its the preseason, just reminding you, lol.
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Very, very true. But.......if you are gonna pay attention to anything in the preseason, it is how well players and units do in the first half of the third preseason game.
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And the guy does not look to be running like he did in Arizona...he looks to be a pretty good fit for their zone blocking scheme...I don't have him on any teams but I would not be shocked if he's one of the ones that jumps to the top 10 with the way he looks...not stats...just the way he looks running the ball.
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He definitely looks like an excellent fit for the system. I snagged him in round 9 last weekend. He could be a huge value. He also could be destroyed by the ever-fickly Shannahandjob.It appears, for now anyway, that he has the spot locked up.
 
'Anonymous Internet User said:
'two_dollars said:
grabbed him end of the 7th, over a week ago. Some things, the smart people see coming.
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not even the very wise can see all endsshanahanadingdong is probably going to be putting in torain or helu as soon as hightower coughs it up again
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I'm sure Shannahan brought him in for that reason. He probably thought since he doesn't like fumblers that he'd bring in a guy who's a notorious fumbler to have him start a few games until he fumbles so he can bench him. I like the reasoning people use to not draft him.
 
I think when they have the right back Shanahan has shown to stick with him. There is no other way that Mike Anderson goes 1500 yards if Shanahan if it were a RBBC. The majority of his successful RBs were undrafted or late picks.

The last few years have unusually volatile due to injury plagued running backs and inability to develop a QB. Both in Denver and last year in DC that has been his weakness.

If Hightower stays healthy and hangs onto the ball I see him as a 1200+ rusher with 10+ TDs...and you can get him Peyton Hillis cheap (another former Denver talent acquired by Shanahan).

 
Tim Hightower - RB - Redskins Former NFL scout Bucky Brooks predicts that Tim Hightower will be a "star" in the Redskins' zone-blocking scheme."Hightower has shown outstanding speed, quickness and vision," writes Brooks. "He attacks the line of scrimmage quickly, but also has enough patience to identify the soft spot of the defense." It's true that Hightower has looked like a natural in Washington's scheme after three mostly mediocre seasons in Arizona's power-based system. His current ADP is the early seventh round.
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'AmosMoses said:
Hightower is keeping Torain's spot warm. I wouldn't buy on this Hightower stuff.
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I dunno....I thought he was pretty productive, fantasywise, in Az. I had him on my team least year and I never had to play him....but if i did he woulda been money. If he is there in the 6th or 7th I am considering him. 8th or lower is sort of a no brainer.
 
Grab him and handcuff him to Torrain, Helu and Williams. All of them will be starters at some point during the season if I know Shanahan. :unsure:

 
'lazyike said:
Grab him and handcuff him to Torrain, Helu and Williams. All of them will be starters at some point during the season if I know Shanahan. :unsure:
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What season did Shanahan do this that wasn't by necessity due to injury, 2008 maybe? History would tell us if Hightower stays healthy and effective he'll be looking at 250 carries.
 
If you are in a league with sharks I would say the 6th round is right about where you need to target him now if you want to get him.

 
For all of his faults, shanny has gotten quality fantasy years from Mike Anderson and Orlandis gary to name a couple. Tim Hightower has a better track record than either. He is going at a level in re-drafts where the risk is not that great. At best he is being taken as a weak RB2 to strong RB4. Not killing fantasy teams on the negativ side IMO.

 
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He is all over the place right now. I would bet he starts going in the 4th if he isn't already. Once you get past guys like Hillis, Turner, the bottom start coming quick as you reach for guys in the 3rd like Felix Jones based on potential so Hightower starts looking like a bargain in the 5th when others are trying to figure out what HALF of this 2 back system am I going to take?

 
After wk 1 pre-season, I traded Grant for Hightower. I'm not looking back. Front end of wave. Looks better every wk. Tim will be RB #2 easy in ppr, maybe more. Late pre-season drafts will have going as early as 4.01/02 type range.

 
'HellToupee said:
There one saving grace on Hightower's fumbling issue is that he's a pretty good blocker in pass protection
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He's been so aggressive in his pass blocking that he's often run into his own linemen (with not-good results). That seems fixable though.With all the talk about Hightower, Torain must be dropping like a rock in drafts right now. Torain gets hurt way too much but when he's healthy I expect him to get the ball at least as much as Hightower does. Torain frequently turned what should have been 1-2 yard losses into 3-4 yard gains last year behind a line that was pretty much crap.
 
I posted this in the dynasty trades thread also, but my wife was offered, and accepted (by the Helu owner) Daniel Thomas, Johnny Knox and Earl Bennett for Hightower. Personally, I think if Torain can come back and stay healthy he'll be the guy, but obviously some people are buying into the Hightower talk. Who knows?

 
Hightower and Ingram will make or brake a lot of teams this year. Hightower is already sneaking into the 4th

 
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'whodeywhodey said:
If you are in a league with sharks I would say the 6th round is right about where you need to target him now if you want to get him.
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Totally agree. Ive been able to get him about half the time, if not more, in the 8th round in a 10 team league (which would basically be the 7th in a 12 team). He's been sniped from me a couple time in that range, but these were free ESPN leagues. Im looking at him hard in the 6th round just to be sure I get him. In pre-draft rankings, he's still ranked low enough where I doubt people in my leagues take him in the 5th round, too many WRs still there, top TE's, possibly a QB or 2 slides. By the 7th, Id fear someone else takes him. 6th round feels perfect. For awhile, Manningham was the only player I really felt would outperform his draft spot by a couple rounds, but I think Hightower is that guy now.
 
Most of what has been posted here @ Hightower is accurate....

* his draft status is climbing

* Torain was the "expected" starter but remains injured (hand cast came off Aug 17)

* Helu has been a nice late round addition (4th round from Nebraska)

* Shanny does not like fumbles / a trait of Hightower's

However, this is preseason and Wash Coaches are trying to solve several KEY OFFENSIVE starting positions .... QB, RB & WR2

TE1 Cooley is injured but Fred Davis is a nice backup. That is solved.

They have focusing on Grossman/Beck battle at QB.

Hightower has made the RB decision easy. It's his. He has clearly won the job. Impressive running play and strong blocking.

Most projections have Hightower at 60% of the carries and Helu about 25% and Torain 12% & Keiland Williams the rest.....

There are some reports of Torain being on the bubble for making the roster.

Tim Hightower is a great fit for the Wash offensive schemes. He fits what Shanny wants.

Hightower has had something like 15 carries for 130 yards & 2 TD and 1 rec. Half of this vs the Balt #1 Def

It is Hightower's job. It is his to hold. It is his to do all he can to exceed expectations. It is also his to lose if he does not do what is needed to keep it.

For what it's worth, I took him at 5.11 (but I did not have another pick until 9.01) so it was now or never. I have no regrets in my decision...

 
'AmosMoses said:
'shnikies said:
'fatness said:
'Birdie048 said:
There are some reports of Torain being on the bubble for making the roster.
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I've seen no such reports from Redskin beat writers.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-roster-breakdown-who-has-the-best-chance-of-making-the-team/2011/08/21/gIQAvTD8TJ_blog.html
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That's a terrible report.
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I didn't say it was good. He said he hasn't seen any such reports from a beat writer and I provided one. That's all.
 
'shnikies said:
'AmosMoses said:
'shnikies said:
'fatness said:
'Birdie048 said:
There are some reports of Torain being on the bubble for making the roster.
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I've seen no such reports from Redskin beat writers.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-roster-breakdown-who-has-the-best-chance-of-making-the-team/2011/08/21/gIQAvTD8TJ_blog.html
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That's a terrible report.
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I didn't say it was good. He said he hasn't seen any such reports from a beat writer and I provided one. That's all.
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I didn't say you were wrong.
 
'shnikies said:
'fatness said:
'Birdie048 said:
There are some reports of Torain being on the bubble for making the roster.
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I've seen no such reports from Redskin beat writers.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-roster-breakdown-who-has-the-best-chance-of-making-the-team/2011/08/21/gIQAvTD8TJ_blog.html
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that one from Mike Jones.What he's saying is that if Torain remains injured he may be gone.
Looking good: Tim Hightower and Roy Helu are a potentially explosive duo.On the bubble: Ryan Torain, Evan Royster, Shaun Draughn.Thoughts: Torain needs to get healthy so he can prove himself, and if he is able to do that, his chances of making the roster are good. Royster looked good last week, but isn’t much different from Hightower and Torain in his running style. If he doesn’t make the team, he likely is a strong special teams candidate.
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Report from a more veteran Redskin beat reporter, Ryan O'Halloran:

RB (4): Tim Hightower, Ryan Torain, Darrel Young and Roy Helu.

Analysis: Keeping Torain wouldn’t be my decision, but it will probably be Mike Shanahan’s decision – Torain been injury-hampered for years and some say took a little bit longer than necessary to return from a hamstring problem last year. But Shanahan sees something in Torain … when healthy. Young has unseated Mike Sellers at fullback, but in a close call, I’ll say the Redskins use Sellers as a combo tight end/fullback, meaning Kelland Williams is on the outside. Helu gets the edge over fellow draft pick Evan Royster.
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'fatness said:
Report from a more veteran Redskin beat reporter, Ryan O'Halloran:

RB (4): Tim Hightower, Ryan Torain, Darrel Young and Roy Helu.

Analysis: Keeping Torain wouldn't be my decision, but it will probably be Mike Shanahan's decision – Torain been injury-hampered for years and some say took a little bit longer than necessary to return from a hamstring problem last year. But Shanahan sees something in Torain … when healthy. Young has unseated Mike Sellers at fullback, but in a close call, I'll say the Redskins use Sellers as a combo tight end/fullback, meaning Kelland Williams is on the outside. Helu gets the edge over fellow draft pick Evan Royster.
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Fatness once again ty for the info. i'm starting to feel like Washington is the team on offense we might be overlooking.
 
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