didnt they already do this, when they decided to go w/ the rookie qb?im thinking san fran fans should be crazy happy, here comes reggie bush!!Nice move for the Bucs. I'm guessing they paid out the nose for him though.
That means SF is basically dumping their season.
Rattay is "veteran" backup here. Nothing more. Bucs didn't want to go the rest of the season with Simms and McCown as the only 2 qbs.So much for Simms.
I think that they may have little confidence in him staying health, and less confidence in McCown.Rattay put up some nice numbers when he was in the lineup and that was on a horrid team. I'm curious to see how he does in Tampa. Obviously they have very little confidence in Simms.
Actually, yes, the deadline was 5pm EST, today, 10/18/05.What is this a freaking Hockey trade dealine day?
Man.. Alex Smith all year for the 9ers.. they'll be in position to get Matt Leinard next year
Yeah, I know. Normally there isn't this much activity in the NFLActually, yes, the deadline was 5pm EST, today, 10/18/05.What is this a freaking Hockey trade dealine day?
Well, this seals my decision to pick up the Skins defense this week.Man.. Alex Smith all year for the 9ers..
Rattay is "veteran" backup here. Nothing more. Bucs didn't want to go the rest of the season with Simms and McCown as the only 2 qbs.So much for Simms.
I think.
I figured they would realize their mistake and put Rattay back in.didnt they already do this, when they decided to go w/ the rookie qb?im thinking san fran fans should be crazy happy, here comes reggie bush!!Nice move for the Bucs. I'm guessing they paid out the nose for him though.
That means SF is basically dumping their season.
Barring injury, I don't think he starts at all. I don't think you learn Grudens system in 2 weeks.Do you think he starts as early as week 8? With the bye week this week it would give Rattay 2 weeks to get ready.
neitherso you think Rattay starts out of the gate?
or do they start simms and work him in?
Rattay is pretty smart, but I have to agree here. I like it long term, but it will take more than 2 weeks.Back on the Rattay bandwagon.Barring injury, I don't think he starts at all. I don't think you learn Grudens system in 2 weeks.
Barring injury, I don't think he starts at all. I don't think you learn Grudens system in 2 weeks.Do you think he starts as early as week 8? With the bye week this week it would give Rattay 2 weeks to get ready.neitherso you think Rattay starts out of the gate?
or do they start simms and work him in?
How so? Because of SIMMS?Wow...Bump Joey Galloway UP!!
Too busy auditioning Shaun King and Jeff Georgewhere was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
where was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
I'm guessing that TB gave a higher pick that 6 for Rattay? I would guess a 4th.... (did I miss where that was announced?)where was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
I agree with you and no it was an undisclosed draft pick so it was not announced.I'm guessing that TB gave a higher pick that 6 for Rattay? I would guess a 4th.... (did I miss where that was announced?)where was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
VERY But then, maybe Mooch didn't want him?where was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
Next week - week 8, but maybe.Although how cool would it be to see Rattay vs. Smith?
I would also think this helps Simms this week vs San Fran...
Hrm, I'm thinking it may be a bump up for Clayton. If you were an opposing D, wouldn't stack up against the run and make the inexperienced/new to the system QB throw it? If anything I'd think it's a bump down for Caddy/Pittman. But what do I know?!?Clayton owners: Happy or Not?
Im sticking with my guns here and saying no change. Caddy and Pittman- or rather just Caddy- will be taking handoffs from a more experienced QB. BTW, the Bucs should really set up a QB grooming outlet at La Tech- seems like they have a fetish for them.
Yeah, well maybe we don't want MOOCH.VERY But then, maybe Mooch didn't want him?where was Matt Millen is this deal? I would have given SF a 6th If I were him.
Why don't you think Rattay can start week 8?sure are a lot of knee-jerk reactions in this thread. to be expected here, I guess.
Personally, I think this is the best move Bruce Allen has made yet for this franchise. Like it or not, the Bucs are a legit playoff team and they just took care of any season-destroying situations they would have faced had Simms got hurt or played terrible.
I've always thought Rattay was better than he got credit for, and he'll come into a situation where he doesn't have to start right away, and can work his way into learning the playbook and the system he is probably a little familiar with.
Fwiw, Simms is going to have to suck HARD to get replaced by Rattay. Keep in mind the kid has been here three years now and started the Saints game last year when Johnson went out. He's the starter. Rattay is the backup.
I'll give you my take. Jon Gruden's playbook is like learning Advanced Calculus blind folded. Tim Rattay will have to first learn the playbook and get snaps in practice and develop a rapport with everyone else, so that'll take a while. On top of all that, Chris Simms will have to suck hard like Capella said.Why don't you think Rattay can start week 8?sure are a lot of knee-jerk reactions in this thread. to be expected here, I guess.
Personally, I think this is the best move Bruce Allen has made yet for this franchise. Like it or not, the Bucs are a legit playoff team and they just took care of any season-destroying situations they would have faced had Simms got hurt or played terrible.
I've always thought Rattay was better than he got credit for, and he'll come into a situation where he doesn't have to start right away, and can work his way into learning the playbook and the system he is probably a little familiar with.
Fwiw, Simms is going to have to suck HARD to get replaced by Rattay. Keep in mind the kid has been here three years now and started the Saints game last year when Johnson went out. He's the starter. Rattay is the backup.